Re: [arch-general] Ugh.. It's Official -- OpenOffice is forked -- LibreOffice

2010-09-29 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:24:36 -0500
David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:

 Guys,
 
   For those that rely on OpenOffice, and for those that prepare
 the packages, it's official, OpenOffice forked as of Sept. 28, 2010.
 Here is the press release:
 
 http://www.documentfoundation.org/contact/tdf_release.html
 
Main Site:
 
 http://www.documentfoundation.org/
 
   Probably best for the long run...
 

Our package maintainers follow their projects.
In fact Andy is already working on new packages, he posted this to
arch-dev-public.

PS: hundreds of people are following this mailing list, so every mail
you send ends up in all those peoples mailboxes, maybe you can restrict
your emails to the more useful stuff.

Dieter 


[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.35.7-1

2010-09-29 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Latest kernel is in testing,
please signoff for both arches.

greetings
tpowa
-- 
Tobias
Powalowski
Archlinux Developer  Package Maintainer
(tpowa)
http://www.archlinux.org
tp...@archlinux.org



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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.35.7-1

2010-09-29 Thread Roman Kyrylych
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:08, Tobias Powalowski t.p...@gmx.de wrote:
 Latest kernel is in testing,
 please signoff for both arches.

Booted successfully via pv-grub under Xen.
Sign off x86_64.

-- 
Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)


Re: [arch-general] Best Practices...

2010-09-29 Thread Pierre Chapuis
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:41:20 +0300, Ionu?^? Bîru ib...@archlinux.org
wrote:

 use abs to recompile mplayer against x264-git

That would be a good solution for most packages but in this case you
should be aware that:

 - x264 is used only for video encoding, not decoding, so unless you 
   encode videos you simply don't need x264-git;

 - if you *do* encode videos and care about performance you should 
   compile mplayer on your machine with a custom PKGBUILD or one from 
   AUR that lets its build process auto-detect your hardware.
   mplayer-svn is probably a good choice.

-- 
Pierre 'catwell' Chapuis


[arch-general] Asterisk on Archlinux

2010-09-29 Thread Christian
Hi all,
Is anyone on this list running the latest Asteriisk with or without dahdi?
Many thanks,
Christian

Re: [arch-general] Asterisk on Archlinux

2010-09-29 Thread Paulo Santos
Christian wrote:
 Is anyone on this list running the latest Asteriisk with or without dahdi?

I'm running Asterisk 1.6 with DAHDI 2.4. Works perfectly.


Re: [arch-general] Ugh.. It's Official -- OpenOffice is forked -- LibreOffice

2010-09-29 Thread John Holbrook
I know a fork can be a pain but why do you say Ugh?

When the project was under Sun they maintained way too tight of
control over everything and they really didn't get the whole Open
Source philosophy.

Under Oracle? Well, we've seen what they've done with OpenSolaris

I think that Oracle is trying to be the new M$.


Re: [arch-general] Asterisk on Archlinux

2010-09-29 Thread Christian
Hi,
Souns great! Did you install it from the aur or from the source?

-Original Message-
From: Paulo Santos paulo.r.san...@sapo.pt
Sent: den 29 september 2010 15:37
To: General Discussion about Arch Linux arch-general@archlinux.org
Subject: Re: [arch-general] Asterisk on Archlinux

Christian wrote:
 Is anyone on this list running the latest Asteriisk with or without dahdi?

I'm running Asterisk 1.6 with DAHDI 2.4. Works perfectly.




Re: [arch-general] Asterisk on Archlinux

2010-09-29 Thread Florian Pritz
On 29.09.2010 16:45, Christian wrote:
 Hi,
 Souns great! Did you install it from the aur or from the source?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Paulo Santos paulo.r.san...@sapo.pt
 Sent: den 29 september 2010 15:37
 To: General Discussion about Arch Linux arch-general@archlinux.org
 Subject: Re: [arch-general] Asterisk on Archlinux
 
 Christian wrote:
 Is anyone on this list running the latest Asteriisk with or without dahdi?
 
 I'm running Asterisk 1.6 with DAHDI 2.4. Works perfectly.

Please make sure your mail client adds the Message-ID header to the
mails you send. At least I can't find it in both of your mails.

-- 
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Re: [arch-general] Asterisk on Archlinux

2010-09-29 Thread Paulo Santos
Christian wrote:
 Souns great! Did you install it from the aur or from the source?

At first I tried the AUR version. Now I use one built from source so I
could cusomize, also with DAHDI, without any problems.

Florian Pritz wrote:
 Please make sure your mail client adds the Message-ID header to the
 mails you send. At least I can't find it in both of your mails.

As Florian said, try to fix that so your mails can be threaded.


Re: [arch-general] Asterisk on Archlinux

2010-09-29 Thread Christian
Hi,


On 2010-09-29 at 17:03 Paulo Santos wrote:

Christian wrote:
 Souns great! Did you install it from the aur or from the source?

At first I tried the AUR version. Now I use one built from source so I
could cusomize, also with DAHDI, without any problems.

Florian Pritz wrote:
 Please make sure your mail client adds the Message-ID header to the
 mails you send. At least I can't find it in both of your mails.

As Florian said, try to fix that so your mails can be threaded.

OK, what will I need to compile it fro msource on Arch?
I have been trying to do it, but no luck.
Many thanks for any info!



Re: [arch-general] Asterisk on Archlinux

2010-09-29 Thread Paulo Santos
Christian wrote:
 OK, what will I need to compile it fro msource on Arch?
 I have been trying to do it, but no luck.

If you install the dependencies of the AUR's package [1] you should be
able to compile it yourself from source.

If you want DAHDI, you should install it before Asterisk so it detects
it and compiles the channel drivers.

[1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14879


Re: [arch-general] Ugh.. It's Official -- OpenOffice is forked -- LibreOffice

2010-09-29 Thread Guus Snijders

On 29-09-10 05:24, David C. Rankin wrote:

Guys,

For those that rely on OpenOffice, and for those that prepare the
packages, it's official, OpenOffice forked as of Sept. 28, 2010. Here
is the press release:

http://www.documentfoundation.org/contact/tdf_release.html


Thanks David, i had seen the name libreoffice somewhere, but it didn't 
ring a bell so far.




mvg,
   Guus


Re: [arch-general] Asterisk on Archlinux

2010-09-29 Thread Christian
Hi,


On 2010-09-29 at 18:28 Paulo Santos wrote:


If you install the dependencies of the AUR's package [1] you should be
able to compile it yourself from source.

If you want DAHDI, you should install it before Asterisk so it detects
it and compiles the channel drivers.

[1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14879

OK, many thanks will download this and try it.
At last, do you set it up to run as its own user?
Christian



Re: [arch-general] kernel26-headers breaks VMWare and VirtualBox

2010-09-29 Thread Fess
On 06:52 Wed 29 Sep , Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 14:44 -0700, John Holbrook wrote:
  Thanks. I just found it in testing. Install fixed my problem. Very
  frustrating though.
 
 Kernel updates always go through [testing] first.

Last 2 or 3 new kernels brought us pain.
Maybe developers had diarea. Or something like that.
-- 



Re: [arch-general] kernel26-headers breaks VMWare and VirtualBox

2010-09-29 Thread Gary Wright
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Fess killall_hum...@lavabit.com wrote:
 On 06:52 Wed 29 Sep , Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 14:44 -0700, John Holbrook wrote:
  Thanks. I just found it in testing. Install fixed my problem. Very
  frustrating though.

 Kernel updates always go through [testing] first.

 Last 2 or 3 new kernels brought us pain.
 Maybe developers had diarea. Or something like that.
 --



Surely you mean the _kernel_ developers, right?


[arch-general] Problems mountig ftp/smb via gvfs

2010-09-29 Thread b1
Hello altogether

Today I ran into the following problem:
When I try to connect to an ftp Server via the connect to Server
Dialog in Nautilus, the ftp Server gets mounted. Unfortunatelly there
are no files in the newly created mountpoint. I also looked manually in
the .gvfs/FTPSERVERNAME/ Directory and it is empty. 

However trying to access the ftp-Server via filezilla (an ftp programm),
works fine. 

The exactly same issue comes up, if I try to connect to a Windows-Share.
A mountpoint is created, but its empty.

Nautilus shows no error message and I have no idea of how to solve this.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Benedikt



[arch-general] ProFTPD and Archlinux

2010-09-29 Thread Christian
Hi all,
I haven't been using Archlinux for that long so I apologize for the questions. 
I have been using ProFTPD on Debian and that was running as it's own user and 
that was set up automatically, but I don't find any instructions on the Arch 
wiki to set up proftpd, only a description of it. Any help please!
Many thanks!
Christian

Re: [arch-general] ProFTPD and Archlinux

2010-09-29 Thread Facundo Andrés Bianco
2010/9/29 Christian christia...@runbox.com:
 Hi all,
 I haven't been using Archlinux for that long so I apologize for the 
 questions. I have been using ProFTPD on Debian and that was running as it's 
 own user and that was set up automatically, but I don't find any instructions 
 on the Arch wiki to set up proftpd, only a description of it. Any help please!
 Many thanks!
 Christian

Hi, can you take a look at /etc/proftpd.conf? It had good comments to
set up ProFTPd.

Regards,

-- 
Facundo Andrés Bianco (Vando.)
GNUPG ID: 0x89C1B42F
omb: identi.ca/vando


Re: [arch-general] ProFTPD and Archlinux

2010-09-29 Thread Christian



On 2010-09-29 at 18:07 Facundo Andrés Bianco wrote:

2010/9/29 Christian christia...@runbox.com:
 Hi all,
 I haven't been using Archlinux for that long so I apologize for the
questions. I have been using ProFTPD on Debian and that was running as
it's own user and that was set up automatically, but I don't find any
instructions on the Arch wiki to set up proftpd, only a description of it.
Any help please!
 Many thanks!
 Christian

Hi, can you take a look at /etc/proftpd.conf? It had good comments to
set up ProFTPd.

Regards,

--
Facundo Andrés Bianco (Vando.)
GNUPG ID: 0x89C1B42F
omb: identi.ca/vando

OK, will do it when I have installed it but it doesn't tell how to set it up to 
run as it's own user?
Many thanks,
Christian



Re: [arch-general] Ugh.. It's Official -- OpenOffice is forked -- LibreOffice

2010-09-29 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Dieter Plaetinck's message of 2010-09-29 09:39:07 +0200:
 On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:24:36 -0500
 David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:
 
  Guys,
  
  For those that rely on OpenOffice, and for those that prepare
  the packages, it's official, OpenOffice forked as of Sept. 28, 2010.
  Here is the press release:
  
  http://www.documentfoundation.org/contact/tdf_release.html
  
 Main Site:
  
  http://www.documentfoundation.org/
  
  Probably best for the long run...
  
 
 Our package maintainers follow their projects.
 In fact Andy is already working on new packages, he posted this to
 arch-dev-public.
 
 PS: hundreds of people are following this mailing list, so every mail
 you send ends up in all those peoples mailboxes, maybe you can restrict
 your emails to the more useful stuff.
 
 Dieter 

I really didn't know of it before the two threads on this list that
mentioned it now. On the other hand, neither message made clear what's
actually going on.

Which seems to be...
1) There were plans for an independent foundation before, but they were
never realised
2) Oracle seems to not have interest in some of the stuff they acquired
with sun
3) Oracle seems to be a huge, slow and bureaucratic monster

The above is just the impression I got from reading some stuff about it



Re: [arch-general] ProFTPD and Archlinux

2010-09-29 Thread Facundo Andrés Bianco
2010/9/29 Christian christia...@runbox.com:



 On 2010-09-29 at 18:07 Facundo Andrés Bianco wrote:

2010/9/29 Christian christia...@runbox.com:
 Hi all,
 I haven't been using Archlinux for that long so I apologize for the
questions. I have been using ProFTPD on Debian and that was running as
it's own user and that was set up automatically, but I don't find any
instructions on the Arch wiki to set up proftpd, only a description of it.
Any help please!
 Many thanks!
 Christian

Hi, can you take a look at /etc/proftpd.conf? It had good comments to
set up ProFTPd.

Regards,

--
Facundo Andrés Bianco (Vando.)
GNUPG ID: 0x89C1B42F
omb: identi.ca/vando

 OK, will do it when I have installed it but it doesn't tell how to set it up 
 to run as it's own user?
 Many thanks,
 Christian



http://www.proftpd.org/localsite/Userguide/linked/advconfig-nonroot.html

-- 
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GNUPG ID: 0x89C1B42F
omb: identi.ca/vando


Re: [arch-general] Ugh.. It's Official -- OpenOffice is forked -- LibreOffice

2010-09-29 Thread Cristopher Thomas
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:39, Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.be wrote:
 PS: hundreds of people are following this mailing list, so every mail
 you send ends up in all those peoples mailboxes, maybe you can restrict
 your emails to the more useful stuff.

As you clearly see this as an obscene transgression and a gross
invasion of your valuable inbox space, why further aggravate the
problem by posting to the list to criticize the OP for posting to the
list?


Re: [arch-general] Ugh.. It's Official -- OpenOffice is forked -- LibreOffice

2010-09-29 Thread David C. Rankin
On 09/29/2010 09:30 AM, John Holbrook wrote:
 I know a fork can be a pain but why do you say Ugh?
 
 When the project was under Sun they maintained way too tight of
 control over everything and they really didn't get the whole Open
 Source philosophy.
 
 Under Oracle? Well, we've seen what they've done with OpenSolaris
 
 I think that Oracle is trying to be the new M$.
 

The only reason I say Ugh... is the older I get, the more a creature of habit I
become. A decade ago I used to get excited when packages forked and had the time
to go play. Today, 3-kids later, time is at a premium and I prefer when things
just continue to work so I don't end up spending 10's of hours trouble-shooting
and writing bug reports. I still do the trouble-shooting and I still write bug
reports, but  exciting it ain't and something else has to get pushed off to
do it.

That being so, I'm not at all unhappy about the choice to fork OO. I think the
devs saw some real conflicts in culture coming down the road and were probably
really smart to do it before a crisis ensued.

So all Ugh's aside, I'm optimistic about LibreOffice and I'm just crossing my
fingers the fork doesn't cost me a work-week worth of hours over the next year
to trouble-shoot and bug. If it does -- that's a price I'm willing to pay :p

-- 
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Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
Telephone: (936) 715-9333
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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.35.7-1

2010-09-29 Thread David C. Rankin
On 09/29/2010 03:08 AM, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
 Latest kernel is in testing,
 please signoff for both arches.
 
 greetings
 tpowa

1st boot - hung on Waiting for UDEV events to be processed, usb mouse dead, no
comm with usbhid-ups.

2nd boot - no problems.

Same atavistic issue described previously with 2.6.35.5-1. that appeared fixed
in 2.6.35.6-1 but strikes back in 2.6.35.7-1.

everything.log showing both failed init on 9/27 and successful reboot today is 
here:

[63k]
http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/Archlinux/bugs/everything-20100929.log.bz2

or

[1M - but should be delivered compressed by apache2 anyway]
http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/Archlinux/bugs/everything-20100929.log

-- 
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Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
Telephone: (936) 715-9333
Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
www.rankinlawfirm.com


Re: [arch-general] ProFTPD and Archlinux

2010-09-29 Thread Christian
Hi,


On 2010-09-29 at 18:26 Facundo Andrés Bianco wrote:

2010/9/29 Christian christia...@runbox.com:



 On 2010-09-29 at 18:07 Facundo Andrés Bianco wrote:

2010/9/29 Christian christia...@runbox.com:
 Hi all,
 I haven't been using Archlinux for that long so I apologize for the
questions. I have been using ProFTPD on Debian and that was running as
it's own user and that was set up automatically, but I don't find any
instructions on the Arch wiki to set up proftpd, only a description of
it.
Any help please!
 Many thanks!
 Christian

Hi, can you take a look at /etc/proftpd.conf? It had good comments to
set up ProFTPd.

Regards,

--
Facundo Andrés Bianco (Vando.)
GNUPG ID: 0x89C1B42F
omb: identi.ca/vando

 OK, will do it when I have installed it but it doesn't tell how to set
it up to run as it's own user?
 Many thanks,
 Christian



http://www.proftpd.org/localsite/Userguide/linked/advconfig-nonroot.html
Thanks a lot. Now I should be up and running again.

--
Facundo Andrés Bianco (Vando.)
GNUPG ID: 0x89C1B42F
omb: identi.ca/vando





Re: [arch-general] kernel26-headers breaks VMWare and VirtualBox

2010-09-29 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 14:04 -0600, Gary Wright wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Fess killall_hum...@lavabit.com wrote:
  On 06:52 Wed 29 Sep , Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
  On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 14:44 -0700, John Holbrook wrote:
   Thanks. I just found it in testing. Install fixed my problem. Very
   frustrating though.
 
  Kernel updates always go through [testing] first.
 
  Last 2 or 3 new kernels brought us pain.
  Maybe developers had diarea. Or something like that.
  --
 
 Surely you mean the _kernel_ developers, right?

Whichever he meant, such comments are a bit out of line. The devs (Arch
or kernel) don't exist to make your life easier.



Re: [arch-general] Ugh.. It's Official -- OpenOffice is forked -- LibreOffice

2010-09-29 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 00:31 +0300, Cristopher Thomas wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:39, Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.be wrote:
  PS: hundreds of people are following this mailing list, so every mail
  you send ends up in all those peoples mailboxes, maybe you can restrict
  your emails to the more useful stuff.
 
 As you clearly see this as an obscene transgression and a gross
 invasion of your valuable inbox space, why further aggravate the
 problem by posting to the list to criticize the OP for posting to the
 list?

Educational purpose? Its always kinda odd to see posts along the lines
of 'why bother posting this noise?' since its quite self-implicatory.

And yes, this applies to all 3 of these replies so far.



Re: [arch-general] Problems mountig ftp/smb via gvfs

2010-09-29 Thread J. W. Birdsong
On 09/29/10 at 10:44pm, b1 wrote:
 Hello altogether
 
 Today I ran into the following problem:
 When I try to connect to an ftp Server via the connect to Server
 Dialog in Nautilus, the ftp Server gets mounted. Unfortunatelly there
 are no files in the newly created mountpoint. I also looked manually in
 the .gvfs/FTPSERVERNAME/ Directory and it is empty. 
 
 However trying to access the ftp-Server via filezilla (an ftp programm),
 works fine. 
 
 The exactly same issue comes up, if I try to connect to a Windows-Share.
 A mountpoint is created, but its empty.
 
 Nautilus shows no error message and I have no idea of how to solve this.
 
 Any help is appreciated.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Benedikt

Patch/fix for this bug found https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/20724 


Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.35.7-1

2010-09-29 Thread David C. Rankin
On 09/29/2010 05:46 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
 On 09/29/2010 03:08 AM, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
 Latest kernel is in testing,
 please signoff for both arches.

 greetings
 tpowa
 
 1st boot - hung on Waiting for UDEV events to be processed, usb mouse dead, 
 no
 comm with usbhid-ups.
 
 2nd boot - no problems.
 
 Same atavistic issue described previously with 2.6.35.5-1. that appeared fixed
 in 2.6.35.6-1 but strikes back in 2.6.35.7-1.
 
 everything.log showing both failed init on 9/27 and successful reboot today 
 is here:
 
 [63k]
 http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/Archlinux/bugs/everything-20100929.log.bz2
 
 or
 
 [1M - but should be delivered compressed by apache2 anyway]
 http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/Archlinux/bugs/everything-20100929.log
 

Tobias,

Just as a follow up:

3rd boot (a reboot) - hung on Waiting for UDev events to be processed

4th boot (power-off) - worked fine...

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Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
Telephone: (936) 715-9333
Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
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Re: [arch-general] kernel26-headers breaks VMWare and VirtualBox

2010-09-29 Thread Gan Lu
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 3:34 AM, Fess killall_hum...@lavabit.com wrote:
 On 06:52 Wed 29 Sep , Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 14:44 -0700, John Holbrook wrote:
  Thanks. I just found it in testing. Install fixed my problem. Very
  frustrating though.

 Kernel updates always go through [testing] first.

 Last 2 or 3 new kernels brought us pain.
 Maybe developers had diarea. Or something like that.
 --


I do realize the best part you can do is join the test process, and
stop crying for that.


[arch-general] Does Anyone have a dial-in' server working on arch with pppd?

2010-09-29 Thread David C. Rankin
Guys,

In the past I have set up 'dial-in' servers in my home to share the 
cable
internet connection when I'm at sites with no internet connections. This has
worked great for years on SuSE. The way it works is:
___   _
| other box   | dials modem on server and |  Server w/modem  |
| kppp dialer |-| cable internet|
| | gets an IP and starts ppp | hylafax-adaptive  |
---   | answer, handles   |
  | data call, starts |
  Internet--| pppd session and  |
  | internet out ttyS1|
  -

I have tried a number of times to get this to work on Arch and I'm 
drawing
blanks. I have set /etc/ppp/options, chap-secrets, pap-secrets as I have run
them in the past, but they never start ppp. I'm beginning to think that
something is wrong with the current pppd package.

If somebody has a running config or ideas about how to make this work 
with
arch, I'd appreciate your thoughts. Thanks.


-- 
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
Telephone: (936) 715-9333
Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
www.rankinlawfirm.com