Re: [arch-general] Status of dcron

2011-05-02 Thread Jim Pryor
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:19:36AM +0200, Andrea Scarpino wrote:
 On Sunday 01 May 2011 21:43:42 Jim Pryor wrote:
  I suggest these changes:
  
  --- PKGBUILD2011-05-01 21:30:00.046676526 -0400
  +++ PKGBUILD.new2011-05-01 21:35:10.066676512 -0400
  @@ -38,5 +38,8 @@
  install -D -m0600 extra/root.crontab $pkgdir/var/spool/cron/root
  install -D -m755 extra/crond.rc $pkgdir/etc/rc.d/crond
  install -D -m0644 extra/crond.conf $pkgdir/etc/conf.d/crond
  -   install -D -m644 extra/crond.logrotate $pkgdir/etc/logrotate.d/crond
  +   #install -D -m644 extra/crond.logrotate $pkgdir/etc/logrotate.d/crond
  +   install -D -m644 extra/crontab.vim
  $pkgdir/usr/share/vim/vimfiles/ftplugin/crontab.vim +   sed -i -e
  's=/var/spool/cron/cronstamps=/var/spool/cronstamps='
  extra/prune-cronstamps +   install -D -m755 extra/prune-cronstamps
  $pkgdir/etc/cron.d/prune-cronstamps }
  
  
  But none of those are especially urgent. Note that the logrotate file
  should not be installed if there continues to be a reference to
  /var/log/crond.log in /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf. I distribute it as
  an example for users or distros who don't use dcron with syslog.
 Please file a bug report so we don't forget about this changes.
 Thanks

Sure, it's now FS#24040.

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Re: [arch-general] Status of dcron

2011-05-02 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Sun, 1 May 2011 21:43:42 -0400, Jim Pryor wrote:
 On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 04:06:47AM +0300, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote:
 Jim Pryor wrote:
  v4.5 was released as a tarball at 
  http://www.jimpryor.net/linux/dcron.html; but Paul won't be able to 
  package it right away.
 
 Pierre already built a 4.5 package, which is current in testing
 http://www.archlinux.org/packages/testing/i686/dcron
 
 Super, thanks.
 
 I suggest these changes:
 
 --- PKGBUILD2011-05-01 21:30:00.046676526 -0400
 +++ PKGBUILD.new2011-05-01 21:35:10.066676512 -0400
 @@ -38,5 +38,8 @@
 install -D -m0600 extra/root.crontab $pkgdir/var/spool/cron/root 
 install -D -m755 extra/crond.rc $pkgdir/etc/rc.d/crond
 install -D -m0644 extra/crond.conf $pkgdir/etc/conf.d/crond
 -   install -D -m644 extra/crond.logrotate $pkgdir/etc/logrotate.d/crond
 +   #install -D -m644 extra/crond.logrotate $pkgdir/etc/logrotate.d/crond
 +   install -D -m644 extra/crontab.vim
 $pkgdir/usr/share/vim/vimfiles/ftplugin/crontab.vim
 +   sed -i -e 's=/var/spool/cron/cronstamps=/var/spool/cronstamps='
 extra/prune-cronstamps
 +   install -D -m755 extra/prune-cronstamps
 $pkgdir/etc/cron.d/prune-cronstamps
  }
 
 
 But none of those are especially urgent. Note that the logrotate file
 should not be installed if there continues to be a reference to
 /var/log/crond.log in /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf. I distribute it as
 an example for users or distros who don't use dcron with syslog.

Thanks for the hint. Just applied that to the package.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] initscripts-2011.04.1-2

2011-05-02 Thread Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi

On 05/02/2011 09:48 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote:

Am 02.05.2011 14:43, schrieb Tom Gundersen:

On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Thomas Bächlertho...@archlinux.org  wrote:

Am 29.04.2011 02:33, schrieb Tom Gundersen:

Hi guys,

A new initscripts package is in testing, please test and signoff.

The only change since -1 is that we now have a versioned dependency on
udev=167.

Signoff x86_64. Can we move this and mkinitcpio today?

Fine with me, but I believe we lack i686 signoffs for initscripts.

Didn't check, i686 anyone?

signoff i686 basic setup and lvm2, using UTC.

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[arch-general] What broke?!?!?!?

2011-05-02 Thread David Rosenstrauch
OK, performed a pacman -Syu today, and all sorts of things broke.  Can 
anyone please help point me to fixes?


* My USB (wireless) keyboard no longer works under X.  (Although it 
still works fine from consoles 1-6.)


* Internal trackpad no longer works under X.

* Connecting to an openvpn no longer works under 
networkmanager/networkmanager-openvpn/nm-applet.


* Neither USB (wireless) keyboard or (wired) mouse works under qingy.

I've been trying to dig through the forums, but haven't found any 
helpful info yet.  If these are known issues, could anyone point me to 
relevant forum threads and/or bug reports about them?


I honestly don't know where to start to fix this on my own.  There were 
~150 packages that got upgraded this weekend, and I have no idea which 
one(s) caused the breakages.


Thanks,

DR


Re: [arch-general] What broke?!?!?!?

2011-05-02 Thread Rafa Griman
Hi :)

On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:04 PM, David Rosenstrauch dar...@darose.net wrote:
 OK, performed a pacman -Syu today, and all sorts of things broke.  Can
 anyone please help point me to fixes?

 * My USB (wireless) keyboard no longer works under X.  (Although it still
 works fine from consoles 1-6.)

 * Internal trackpad no longer works under X.

 * Connecting to an openvpn no longer works under
 networkmanager/networkmanager-openvpn/nm-applet.

 * Neither USB (wireless) keyboard or (wired) mouse works under qingy.

 I've been trying to dig through the forums, but haven't found any helpful
 info yet.  If these are known issues, could anyone point me to relevant
 forum threads and/or bug reports about them?

 I honestly don't know where to start to fix this on my own.  There were ~150
 packages that got upgraded this weekend, and I have no idea which one(s)
 caused the breakages.

Are you using xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix? I was and the latest
update left my kbd and mouse unuseable under X. Solution was to
uninstall it and install normal xorg:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI_Catalyst#Catalyst.27s_repositories

# pacman -Rdd xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix
# pacman -S xorg-server xorg-server-common


HTH

   Rafa


Re: [arch-general] What broke?!?!?!?

2011-05-02 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
David Rosenstrauch wrote:

 * Connecting to an openvpn no longer works under 
 networkmanager/networkmanager-openvpn/nm-applet.

Maybe this: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/24006


[arch-general] Gnome 3, a bug?

2011-05-02 Thread Magnus Therning
This is such a basic issue that I refuse to believe I'm the first to
bump into this behaviour.  Hence I ask here first for some help.

I recently upgraded to Gnome3 and switching between windows with
alt+tab is rather broken for me.  Here's why I say that:

1. I make sure I have two non-overlapping windows on the screen at the
   same time.
2. I position the mouse pointer in one of the window.
3. At this point I can't switch focus to the other window with
   alt+tab.

Basically I have two options:

1. Move the mouse pointer so that it's not in any window, then I can
   use alt+tab.
2. Move the mouse to switch focus.

Neither of these is very convenient.

Does anyone recognise this?

/M

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Re: [arch-general] Gnome 3, a bug?

2011-05-02 Thread Aljosha Papsch
This is such a basic issue that I refuse to believe I'm the first to

bump into this behaviour.  Hence I ask here first for some help.

I recently upgraded to Gnome3 and switching between windows with
alt+tab is rather broken for me.  Here's why I say that:

1. I make sure I have two non-overlapping windows on the screen at the
   same time.
2. I position the mouse pointer in one of the window.
3. At this point I can't switch focus to the other window with
   alt+tab.

Basically I have two options:

1. Move the mouse pointer so that it's not in any window, then I can
   use alt+tab.
2. Move the mouse to switch focus.

Neither of these is very convenient.

Does anyone recognise this?

/M

It's a design pattern of the GNOME Shell. Switching between windows work 
application based, not window based. Which means, if a Webbrowser is opened and 
two Shells, you won't switch between the shells but between Firefox and the 
last focused shell. You can get back the old behavior, though. Just install 
gnome-shell-extensions-git from AUR.



Re: [arch-general] Gnome 3, a bug?

2011-05-02 Thread Ionut Biru

On 05/02/2011 07:01 PM, Aljosha Papsch wrote:



/M


It's a design pattern of the GNOME Shell. Switching between windows work 
application based, not window based. Which means, if a Webbrowser is opened and 
two Shells, you won't switch between the shells but between Firefox and the 
last focused shell. You can get back the old behavior, though. Just install 
gnome-shell-extensions-git from AUR.



i don't suggest to install all extensions since gnome-shell will load 
them all. Install only specific extension, only what you need. You can 
find them in aur too



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Re: [arch-general] Gnome 3, a bug?

2011-05-02 Thread Magnus Therning
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 05:01:43PM +0100, Aljosha Papsch wrote:
 This is such a basic issue that I refuse to believe I'm the first to
 
 bump into this behaviour.  Hence I ask here first for some help.
 
 I recently upgraded to Gnome3 and switching between windows with
 alt+tab is rather broken for me.  Here's why I say that:
 
 1. I make sure I have two non-overlapping windows on the screen at the
    same time.
 2. I position the mouse pointer in one of the window.
 3. At this point I can't switch focus to the other window with
    alt+tab.
 
 Basically I have two options:
 
 1. Move the mouse pointer so that it's not in any window, then I can
    use alt+tab.
 2. Move the mouse to switch focus.
 
 Neither of these is very convenient.
 
 Does anyone recognise this?
 
 /M
 
 It's a design pattern of the GNOME Shell. Switching between windows
 work application based, not window based. Which means, if a
 Webbrowser is opened and two Shells, you won't switch between the
 shells but between Firefox and the last focused shell. You can get
 back the old behavior, though. Just install
 gnome-shell-extensions-git from AUR.

No, you misunderstand me.

No matter what two windows I have, whether they are two different
applications or not, I still see the same behaviour.  I also see the
same behaviour when switching between two windows of the same
application (using alt+` on my machine).

/M

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Re: [arch-general] Gnome 3, a bug?

2011-05-02 Thread Damien Churchill
On 2 May 2011 17:03, Ionut Biru ib...@archlinux.org wrote:
 On 05/02/2011 07:01 PM, Aljosha Papsch wrote:


 /M

 It's a design pattern of the GNOME Shell. Switching between windows work
 application based, not window based. Which means, if a Webbrowser is opened
 and two Shells, you won't switch between the shells but between Firefox and
 the last focused shell. You can get back the old behavior, though. Just
 install gnome-shell-extensions-git from AUR.


 i don't suggest to install all extensions since gnome-shell will load them
 all. Install only specific extension, only what you need. You can find them
 in aur too



You can disable extensions, taken from the Gnome Shell extensions page [1]

Per-user and systemwide extensions can be disabled with the GSettings
key org.gnome.shell.disabled-extensions

[1] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Extensions


Re: [arch-general] What broke?!?!?!?

2011-05-02 Thread David Rosenstrauch

On 05/02/2011 11:12 AM, Rafa Griman wrote:

Are you using xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix? I was and the latest
update left my kbd and mouse unuseable under X. Solution was to
uninstall it and install normal xorg:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI_Catalyst#Catalyst.27s_repositories

# pacman -Rdd xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix
# pacman -S xorg-server xorg-server-common


HTH

Rafa


Nope.  :-(

[darose@daroselin ~]$ pacman -Q | grep catalyst
[darose@daroselin ~]$

DR


Re: [arch-general] Dmenu vs. KMS

2011-05-02 Thread Stan
 Same here with x86-video-ati-6.14.1 and HD4670, but I don't normally use such 
 long
 lines with dmenu.
 
 I wonder whether anyone else has missed this delay, because you didn't
 describe what you see in your first message.

Yeah, my mistake. With short lines everything's ok.


[arch-general] broken suspend - blank screen

2011-05-02 Thread Marek Otahal
Hi guys, 
sorry to spam the list, but this bug renders my ntb almost unusable. 
Could any of you please look at the bug and suggest some further steps? 

https://bugs.archlinux.org/index.php?do=detailstask_id=24029

Thank you, Mark
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Re: [arch-general] Why are financial contributions not accepted?

2011-05-02 Thread Thomas S Hatch
2011/5/1 Cédric Girard girard.ced...@gmail.com

 On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Seblu se...@seblu.net wrote:

  What about create a association elsewhere in the world where it can be
  less expensive?
 
  In France, we have an association law 1901
  (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_loi_de_1901) which allow a
  no taxes status.
 

 I was also thinking about this. But I think it implies the person who is
 responsible against the law has an address in France, and/or is French.

 --
 Cédric Girard


Have we considered joining SPI? They are an existing non-profit that allows
people to donate to SPI and specify the open source project that they want
the money to go to. It was set up by Debian to solve the same problem we are
having.

Arch would definitely fill the requirements for a joining member, we would
be able to accept donations with a tax write off, and all we have to do it
have an Arch representative go to the meetings every now and then.

http://www.spi-inc.org/


Re: [arch-general] What broke?!?!?!?

2011-05-02 Thread Ty John
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:20 AM, David Rosenstrauch dar...@darose.netwrote:

 On 05/02/2011 11:12 AM, Rafa Griman wrote:

 Are you using xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix? I was and the latest
 update left my kbd and mouse unuseable under X. Solution was to
 uninstall it and install normal xorg:


 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI_Catalyst#Catalyst.27s_repositories

 # pacman -Rdd xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix
 # pacman -S xorg-server xorg-server-common


 HTH

Rafa


 Nope.  :-(

 [darose@daroselin ~]$ pacman -Q | grep catalyst
 [darose@daroselin ~]$

 DR



Try downgrading udev to 167 and see if that helps.
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/23916


Re: [arch-general] What broke?!?!?!?

2011-05-02 Thread Ty John
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Ty John ty...@eye-of-odin.com wrote:



 On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:20 AM, David Rosenstrauch dar...@darose.netwrote:

 On 05/02/2011 11:12 AM, Rafa Griman wrote:

 Are you using xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix? I was and the latest
 update left my kbd and mouse unuseable under X. Solution was to
 uninstall it and install normal xorg:


 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI_Catalyst#Catalyst.27s_repositories

 # pacman -Rdd xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix
 # pacman -S xorg-server xorg-server-common


 HTH

Rafa


 Nope.  :-(

 [darose@daroselin ~]$ pacman -Q | grep catalyst
 [darose@daroselin ~]$

 DR



 Try downgrading udev to 167 and see if that helps.
 https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/23916



Sorry I meant downgrade to 166 not 167. If that does fix the problem then
try moving the /var/run folder and reboot (after reinstalling 167 again)


[arch-general] qtcurve for gtk3/GNOME3?

2011-05-02 Thread David Rosenstrauch
I'm not loving this GNOME3 upgrade.  Latest irritation is that all the gtk
apps are no longer picking up the qtcurve theme that I use on all my apps
to make a uniform desktop.  Is there any way to enable this?

Thanks,

DR



Re: [arch-general] qtcurve for gtk3/GNOME3?

2011-05-02 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:19 AM, David Rosenstrauch dar...@darose.net wrote:
 I'm not loving this GNOME3 upgrade.  Latest irritation is that all the gtk
 apps are no longer picking up the qtcurve theme that I use on all my apps
 to make a uniform desktop.  Is there any way to enable this?

 Thanks,

 DR
qtcurve only works with gtk2, the new Gnome apps are gtk3. You have to
wait for the themes to update.