[arch-general] [signoff] lilo-23.2-2

2011-08-03 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Hi guys,
- fixed kernel and initramfs name for linux 3.0

please signoff both arches
greetings
tpowa
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Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa)
http://www.archlinux.org
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Re: [arch-general] liberoffice 3.4.2 strange behaviour with odt files

2011-08-03 Thread Hector Martinez-Seara
Hi,
I still think that even pacman -S
libreoffice-{base,calc,draw,impress,math,writer} will install
everything. We should provide:

pacman -S libreoffice which is what one expect to type to install everything.

Hector

On 4 August 2011 07:31, Al  wrote:
> Shridhar Daithankar wrote:
>
>> I just faced a strange problem with libreoffice 3.4.2.
>>
>> An old odt file, created with libreoffice 3.4.1, around jul 20. Today when
>> I
>> went to open it with libreoffice 3.4.2, I was asked for filter selection,
>> the
>> available options being
>>
>> - Help Content
>> - ODF chart
>> - Openoffice.org 1.0 chart
>
> libreoffice has been split into multiple packages.
>
> You need to install the individual packages:
>  pacman -S libreoffice-{base,calc,draw,impress,math,writer}
>
> Al
>
>



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Re: [arch-general] liberoffice 3.4.2 strange behaviour with odt files

2011-08-03 Thread Al

Shridhar Daithankar wrote:


I just faced a strange problem with libreoffice 3.4.2.

An old odt file, created with libreoffice 3.4.1, around jul 20. Today when I
went to open it with libreoffice 3.4.2, I was asked for filter selection, the
available options being

- Help Content
- ODF chart
- Openoffice.org 1.0 chart


libreoffice has been split into multiple packages.

You need to install the individual packages:
  pacman -S libreoffice-{base,calc,draw,impress,math,writer}

Al



[arch-general] liberoffice 3.4.2 strange behaviour with odt files

2011-08-03 Thread Shridhar Daithankar
Hello,

I just faced a strange problem with libreoffice 3.4.2.

An old odt file, created with libreoffice 3.4.1, around jul 20. Today when I 
went to open it with libreoffice 3.4.2, I was asked for filter selection, the 
available options being 

- Help Content
- ODF chart
- Openoffice.org 1.0 chart

Clearly it is somehow confused and unable to open the file.

kword can open the file just fine. Of course the formatting is not the same 
and I don't want to reformat it.

Google didn't have much to offer on this.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

-- 
Regards
 Shridhar


Re: [arch-general] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Allan McRae's message of 2011-08-03 23:31:51 +0200:
> On 04/08/11 00:17, Philipp Überbacher wrote:
> > Excerpts from Auguste Pop's message of 2011-08-03 15:37:38 +0200:
> >> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Philipp Überbacher
> >>   wrote:
> >>> Excerpts from Auguste Pop's message of 2011-08-03 15:12:21 +0200:
>  On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Mauro Santos 
>   wrote:
> > On 03-08-2011 07:41, Hector Martinez-Seara wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> I'm aware that recently there has been some changes in libreoffice
> >> package. The problem is that yesterday I updated my system and
> >> surprisingly only libreoffice-common was updated. By that I mean that
> >> I mean that not base, writer, impress... were available after the
> >> update, they dissapered. Moreover, if I make "pacman -S libreoffice"
> >> only  "libreoffice-common" is targeted and there is no traces of
> >> libreoffice-calc,  libreoffice-base,  libreoffice-draw The thing
> >> is that there seems to be a container called libreoffice which it is
> >> suppose to contain all this basic packages but in my case only
> >> installs "libreoffice-common". What I'm doing wrong? I hope it is not
> >> expected that we install one by one the components we want.
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> Hector
> >
> > My only (small) gripe is that libreoffice-gnome maybe should be called
> > libreoffice-gtk.
> >
> > As a user of xfce I was slightly puzzled but the naming saying gnome as
> > it sort of implies that it is specific to gnome, however the description
> > clarifies that it applies to any gtk dependent DE. Maybe the naming
> > should be general and the description should state gnome,xfce and
> > anything else gtk dependent that is officially supported by arch.
> >
> > --
> > Mauro Santos
> >
>  and libreoffice-kde4 should be libreoffice-qt.
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure about this, it pulls in at least phonon, which is kde
> >>> specific.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> oh, i didn't install that. that was a blind guess. :-P
> >>
> >> best regards,
> >
> > I didn't go through with it either but I had a look at what it would
> > pull. libreoffice-gnome pulls nothing on my system, no gconf, no other
> > gnome dependencies. libreoffice-kde pulls phonon and a bunch of other
> > kde dependencies.
> >
> > So I'd suggest:
> > libreoffice-gnome ->  libreoffice-gtk (version?)
> > libreoffice-kde4 (leave it)
> >
> > It's not consistent but it reflects reality.
> >
> 
> I'm fairly sure these are just following upstream naming so I doubt they 
> will change.
> 
> Allan

It's not exactly easy to figure out what upstream uses in this case. The
only hint I found so far is the gnome_list.txt in the PKGBUILD. I don't
know whether the upstream name is very significant in this case.



Re: [arch-general] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Allan McRae

On 04/08/11 00:17, Philipp Überbacher wrote:

Excerpts from Auguste Pop's message of 2011-08-03 15:37:38 +0200:

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Philipp Überbacher
  wrote:

Excerpts from Auguste Pop's message of 2011-08-03 15:12:21 +0200:

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Mauro Santos  wrote:

On 03-08-2011 07:41, Hector Martinez-Seara wrote:

Hi,
I'm aware that recently there has been some changes in libreoffice
package. The problem is that yesterday I updated my system and
surprisingly only libreoffice-common was updated. By that I mean that
I mean that not base, writer, impress... were available after the
update, they dissapered. Moreover, if I make "pacman -S libreoffice"
only  "libreoffice-common" is targeted and there is no traces of
libreoffice-calc,  libreoffice-base,  libreoffice-draw The thing
is that there seems to be a container called libreoffice which it is
suppose to contain all this basic packages but in my case only
installs "libreoffice-common". What I'm doing wrong? I hope it is not
expected that we install one by one the components we want.
Thanks in advance,
Hector


My only (small) gripe is that libreoffice-gnome maybe should be called
libreoffice-gtk.

As a user of xfce I was slightly puzzled but the naming saying gnome as
it sort of implies that it is specific to gnome, however the description
clarifies that it applies to any gtk dependent DE. Maybe the naming
should be general and the description should state gnome,xfce and
anything else gtk dependent that is officially supported by arch.

--
Mauro Santos


and libreoffice-kde4 should be libreoffice-qt.


I'm not sure about this, it pulls in at least phonon, which is kde
specific.



oh, i didn't install that. that was a blind guess. :-P

best regards,


I didn't go through with it either but I had a look at what it would
pull. libreoffice-gnome pulls nothing on my system, no gconf, no other
gnome dependencies. libreoffice-kde pulls phonon and a bunch of other
kde dependencies.

So I'd suggest:
libreoffice-gnome ->  libreoffice-gtk (version?)
libreoffice-kde4 (leave it)

It's not consistent but it reflects reality.



I'm fairly sure these are just following upstream naming so I doubt they 
will change.


Allan




Re: [arch-general] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Vince Baldwin
I ran pacman -Syu on two different machines yesterday, one with KDE and 
one with xfce. Neither asked me for anything to do with the language and 
it reverted to German until I installed libreoffice-en-US. The default 
US English had worked fine prior. I also had to do "pacman -S 
libreoffice-{base,calc,impress,writer,math,draw} to get everything 
running again as per the wiki on libreoffice.


-Vince


[arch-general] [signoff] pcmciautils-018-1

2011-08-03 Thread Tom Gundersen
Hi guys,

I pushed an update to pcmciautils mainly to remove our custom udev
rules file, which is no longer correct (after my recent changes to
udev), and replace it with the upstream one.

Since I was at it I also updated to the latest upstream release. I
don't have the hardware to test this, and neither does tpowa, so I
encourage signoffs also from general in the hopes that someone still
cares about pcmcia.

Please signoff both arches.

Cheers,

Tom


Re: [arch-general] Plasma-desktop in KDE 4.7 can not start up

2011-08-03 Thread Paul Gideon Dann
On Wednesday 03 Aug 2011 22:25:37 Leon Feng wrote:
> 2011/8/3 Paul Gideon Dann 
> 
> > Are you getting a crash report from KDE?  Also, have you checked for
> > relevant
> > information in the xorg-server log?
> 
> No everything is ok in xorg-server. After kill plasma-desktop, I can login
> kde. Start krunner ,Firefox and other application can star up. Alt + Tab is
> used to switch them. So X is working normally.
> 
> And KDE is not crashed. It seems plasma-desktop is runnig into a infinit
> loop. It takes 100% CPU power with nothing output to console.

You may find strace helpful in figuring out what it's trying to do, or maybe 
attach to it with gdb to get a backtrace?

What video driver are you using, by the way?

Paul


Re: [arch-general] Plasma-desktop in KDE 4.7 can not start up

2011-08-03 Thread Leon Feng
2011/8/3 Paul Gideon Dann 

>
> Are you getting a crash report from KDE?  Also, have you checked for
> relevant
> information in the xorg-server log?
>

No everything is ok in xorg-server. After kill plasma-desktop, I can login
kde. Start krunner ,Firefox and other application can star up. Alt + Tab is
used to switch them. So X is working normally.

And KDE is not crashed. It seems plasma-desktop is runnig into a infinit
loop. It takes 100% CPU power with nothing output to console.

Leon

>
> Paul
>


Re: [arch-general] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Auguste Pop's message of 2011-08-03 15:37:38 +0200:
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Philipp Überbacher
>  wrote:
> > Excerpts from Auguste Pop's message of 2011-08-03 15:12:21 +0200:
> >> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Mauro Santos  
> >> wrote:
> >> > On 03-08-2011 07:41, Hector Martinez-Seara wrote:
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> I'm aware that recently there has been some changes in libreoffice
> >> >> package. The problem is that yesterday I updated my system and
> >> >> surprisingly only libreoffice-common was updated. By that I mean that
> >> >> I mean that not base, writer, impress... were available after the
> >> >> update, they dissapered. Moreover, if I make "pacman -S libreoffice"
> >> >> only  "libreoffice-common" is targeted and there is no traces of
> >> >> libreoffice-calc,  libreoffice-base,  libreoffice-draw The thing
> >> >> is that there seems to be a container called libreoffice which it is
> >> >> suppose to contain all this basic packages but in my case only
> >> >> installs "libreoffice-common". What I'm doing wrong? I hope it is not
> >> >> expected that we install one by one the components we want.
> >> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> >> Hector
> >> >
> >> > My only (small) gripe is that libreoffice-gnome maybe should be called
> >> > libreoffice-gtk.
> >> >
> >> > As a user of xfce I was slightly puzzled but the naming saying gnome as
> >> > it sort of implies that it is specific to gnome, however the description
> >> > clarifies that it applies to any gtk dependent DE. Maybe the naming
> >> > should be general and the description should state gnome,xfce and
> >> > anything else gtk dependent that is officially supported by arch.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Mauro Santos
> >> >
> >> and libreoffice-kde4 should be libreoffice-qt.
> >
> > I'm not sure about this, it pulls in at least phonon, which is kde
> > specific.
> >
> >
> oh, i didn't install that. that was a blind guess. :-P
> 
> best regards,

I didn't go through with it either but I had a look at what it would
pull. libreoffice-gnome pulls nothing on my system, no gconf, no other
gnome dependencies. libreoffice-kde pulls phonon and a bunch of other
kde dependencies.

So I'd suggest:
libreoffice-gnome -> libreoffice-gtk (version?)
libreoffice-kde4 (leave it)

It's not consistent but it reflects reality.



Re: [arch-general] Plasma-desktop in KDE 4.7 can not start up

2011-08-03 Thread Paul Gideon Dann
On Wednesday 03 Aug 2011 21:47:01 Leon Feng wrote:
> 2011/8/3 Stefano Avallone 
> If start plasma-desktop from konsole, there are some garbage on the screen.
> And console log stop at:
> 
> plasma-desktop(4851)/plasma SystemTray::DBusSystemTrayTask::createWidget:
> plasma-desktop(4851)/plasma SystemTray::DBusSystemTrayTask::createWidget:
> plasma-desktop(4851)/plasma SystemTray::DBusSystemTrayTask::createWidget:
> plasma-desktop(4851)/plasma SystemTray::DBusSystemTrayTask::createWidget:
> plasma-desktop(4851)/libplasma Plasma::FrameSvg::resizeFrame: Invalid size
> QSizeF(0, 0)
> plasma-desktop(4851)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*)
> KSystemTimeZonesPrivate::instance: instance(): ... initialised
> plasma-desktop(4851)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*)
> KSystemTimeZonesPrivate::readConfig: readConfig(): local zone=
> "Asia/Shanghai"
> plasma-desktop(4851)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*)
> KSystemTimeZonesPrivate::readZoneTab: readZoneTab(
> "/usr/share/zoneinfo/zone.tab" )
> plasma-desktop(4851)/libplasma Plasma::ExtenderItemPrivate::themeChanged:
> plasma-desktop(4851)/plasma Clock::clockConfigChanged: showTimezone: false
> 
> Any idea?

Are you getting a crash report from KDE?  Also, have you checked for relevant 
information in the xorg-server log?

Paul


Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 03 Aug 2011 14:35:22 +0100
schrieb John K Pate :

> Are you sure?

Not anymore. See my last e-mail I've just sent. ;-)

Heiko


Re: [arch-general] Plasma-desktop in KDE 4.7 can not start up

2011-08-03 Thread Leon Feng
2011/8/3 Stefano Avallone 

> On Wednesday, August 03, 2011 06:34:53 PM Leon Feng wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > After upgrade to KDE 4.7, plasma-desktop can not start anymore. Login in
> > from kdm will stop at the splash screen.
> > Switch to console by ctrl + alt + F1 and then run "top" plasma-desktop is
> > using 100% CPU.
> > Run "pkill plasma-desktop" , Login continue. But screen is black. I check
> > .xsession-error file and found nothing special.
> >
> > Does anyone encounter the same problem? How to find more info to track
> down
> > this problem? Thanks.
>
> Try to login with a fresh new account. If the problem persists, it might be
> due to the kwin compositor not liking your graphics driver. In that case,
> you
> might try to disable compositing (set "OpenGLIsUnsafe" to true in your
> ~/.kde4/share/config/kwinrc) and restart KDE. If that works, you might try
> to
> change some advanced options in the Desktop Effects settings (e.g., try to
> disable "Use OpenGL 2 Shaders") and try to re-enable compositing. You might
> also consider to file a bug upstream.
>

Login from fresh new account, the problem persists.
Set OpenGLIsUnsafe = true, does not work.
Set compositing backend to XRender does not work.
Disable compositing does not work.

If start plasma-desktop from konsole, there are some garbage on the screen.
And console log stop at:

plasma-desktop(4851)/plasma SystemTray::DBusSystemTrayTask::createWidget:
plasma-desktop(4851)/plasma SystemTray::DBusSystemTrayTask::createWidget:
plasma-desktop(4851)/plasma SystemTray::DBusSystemTrayTask::createWidget:
plasma-desktop(4851)/plasma SystemTray::DBusSystemTrayTask::createWidget:
plasma-desktop(4851)/libplasma Plasma::FrameSvg::resizeFrame: Invalid size
QSizeF(0, 0)
plasma-desktop(4851)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*)
KSystemTimeZonesPrivate::instance: instance(): ... initialised
plasma-desktop(4851)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*)
KSystemTimeZonesPrivate::readConfig: readConfig(): local zone=
"Asia/Shanghai"
plasma-desktop(4851)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*)
KSystemTimeZonesPrivate::readZoneTab: readZoneTab(
"/usr/share/zoneinfo/zone.tab" )
plasma-desktop(4851)/libplasma Plasma::ExtenderItemPrivate::themeChanged:
plasma-desktop(4851)/plasma Clock::clockConfigChanged: showTimezone: false

Any idea?


>
> Stefano
>
>


Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 3 Aug 2011 21:32:34 +0800
schrieb Auguste Pop :

> i pacman -Syu'ed yesterday, and i got to choose which language pack to
> install. i guess it is the problem of the pacman wrapper you are
> using.

It was not me that was using clyde. ;-)

But it indeed seems to be related to clyde.

If you have already installed a language pack pacman -Syu keeps and
upgrades this language pack. But if you have no language pack installed
pacman -Syu shows the language chooser.

I guess that this chooser was not presented to this user is an issue
with clyde.

Remain the issues that libreoffice-langpack is in both depends and
optdepends of libreoffice-common, which is at least redundant, and the
libreoffice group issue which ought to be fixed by removing
'libreoffice' from provides of libreoffice-common.

Heiko


Re: [arch-general] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Auguste Pop
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Philipp Überbacher
 wrote:
> Excerpts from Auguste Pop's message of 2011-08-03 15:12:21 +0200:
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Mauro Santos  
>> wrote:
>> > On 03-08-2011 07:41, Hector Martinez-Seara wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >> I'm aware that recently there has been some changes in libreoffice
>> >> package. The problem is that yesterday I updated my system and
>> >> surprisingly only libreoffice-common was updated. By that I mean that
>> >> I mean that not base, writer, impress... were available after the
>> >> update, they dissapered. Moreover, if I make "pacman -S libreoffice"
>> >> only  "libreoffice-common" is targeted and there is no traces of
>> >> libreoffice-calc,  libreoffice-base,  libreoffice-draw The thing
>> >> is that there seems to be a container called libreoffice which it is
>> >> suppose to contain all this basic packages but in my case only
>> >> installs "libreoffice-common". What I'm doing wrong? I hope it is not
>> >> expected that we install one by one the components we want.
>> >> Thanks in advance,
>> >> Hector
>> >
>> > My only (small) gripe is that libreoffice-gnome maybe should be called
>> > libreoffice-gtk.
>> >
>> > As a user of xfce I was slightly puzzled but the naming saying gnome as
>> > it sort of implies that it is specific to gnome, however the description
>> > clarifies that it applies to any gtk dependent DE. Maybe the naming
>> > should be general and the description should state gnome,xfce and
>> > anything else gtk dependent that is officially supported by arch.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Mauro Santos
>> >
>> and libreoffice-kde4 should be libreoffice-qt.
>
> I'm not sure about this, it pulls in at least phonon, which is kde
> specific.
>
>
oh, i didn't install that. that was a blind guess. :-P

best regards,


Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread John K Pate
On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 15:27 +0200, Heiko Baums wrote:
> Am Wed, 3 Aug 2011 21:10:53 +0800
> schrieb Auguste Pop :
> 
> > i thought there was a choosing phase before actually install a
> > language pack when upgrading. the default choice is alphabetically the
> > first, which may caused the problem you just depicted.
> 
> If you install libreoffice-common for the first time
> libreoffice-langpack is installed as a dependency and then you get the
> chooser, but not if you upgrade libreoffice with pacman -Syu.

Are you sure? I just upgraded last night with pacman -Syu and got the
language pack chooser. After pacman -S libreoffice-impress, I'm able to
work on my slides fine.

John

==
http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/s0930006/


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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Auguste Pop
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Heiko Baums  wrote:
> Am Wed, 3 Aug 2011 21:10:53 +0800
> schrieb Auguste Pop :
>
>> i thought there was a choosing phase before actually install a
>> language pack when upgrading. the default choice is alphabetically the
>> first, which may caused the problem you just depicted.
>
> If you install libreoffice-common for the first time
> libreoffice-langpack is installed as a dependency and then you get the
> chooser, but not if you upgrade libreoffice with pacman -Syu.
>
> Nevertheless libreoffice-langpack currently is in both depends and
> optdepends in libreoffice-common which is at least redundant.
>
> Well, the language pack issue mentioned in the bug report regarding the
> libreoffice group issue seems to be related to clyde, not to pacman.
>
> Heiko
>
i pacman -Syu'ed yesterday, and i got to choose which language pack to
install. i guess it is the problem of the pacman wrapper you are
using.

best regards,


Re: [arch-general] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Auguste Pop's message of 2011-08-03 15:12:21 +0200:
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Mauro Santos  
> wrote:
> > On 03-08-2011 07:41, Hector Martinez-Seara wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> I'm aware that recently there has been some changes in libreoffice
> >> package. The problem is that yesterday I updated my system and
> >> surprisingly only libreoffice-common was updated. By that I mean that
> >> I mean that not base, writer, impress... were available after the
> >> update, they dissapered. Moreover, if I make "pacman -S libreoffice"
> >> only  "libreoffice-common" is targeted and there is no traces of
> >> libreoffice-calc,  libreoffice-base,  libreoffice-draw The thing
> >> is that there seems to be a container called libreoffice which it is
> >> suppose to contain all this basic packages but in my case only
> >> installs "libreoffice-common". What I'm doing wrong? I hope it is not
> >> expected that we install one by one the components we want.
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> Hector
> >
> > My only (small) gripe is that libreoffice-gnome maybe should be called
> > libreoffice-gtk.
> >
> > As a user of xfce I was slightly puzzled but the naming saying gnome as
> > it sort of implies that it is specific to gnome, however the description
> > clarifies that it applies to any gtk dependent DE. Maybe the naming
> > should be general and the description should state gnome,xfce and
> > anything else gtk dependent that is officially supported by arch.
> >
> > --
> > Mauro Santos
> >
> and libreoffice-kde4 should be libreoffice-qt.

I'm not sure about this, it pulls in at least phonon, which is kde
specific.



Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 3 Aug 2011 21:10:53 +0800
schrieb Auguste Pop :

> i thought there was a choosing phase before actually install a
> language pack when upgrading. the default choice is alphabetically the
> first, which may caused the problem you just depicted.

If you install libreoffice-common for the first time
libreoffice-langpack is installed as a dependency and then you get the
chooser, but not if you upgrade libreoffice with pacman -Syu.

Nevertheless libreoffice-langpack currently is in both depends and
optdepends in libreoffice-common which is at least redundant.

Well, the language pack issue mentioned in the bug report regarding the
libreoffice group issue seems to be related to clyde, not to pacman.

Heiko


Re: [arch-general] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Auguste Pop
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Mauro Santos  wrote:
> On 03-08-2011 07:41, Hector Martinez-Seara wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I'm aware that recently there has been some changes in libreoffice
>> package. The problem is that yesterday I updated my system and
>> surprisingly only libreoffice-common was updated. By that I mean that
>> I mean that not base, writer, impress... were available after the
>> update, they dissapered. Moreover, if I make "pacman -S libreoffice"
>> only  "libreoffice-common" is targeted and there is no traces of
>> libreoffice-calc,  libreoffice-base,  libreoffice-draw The thing
>> is that there seems to be a container called libreoffice which it is
>> suppose to contain all this basic packages but in my case only
>> installs "libreoffice-common". What I'm doing wrong? I hope it is not
>> expected that we install one by one the components we want.
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Hector
>
> My only (small) gripe is that libreoffice-gnome maybe should be called
> libreoffice-gtk.
>
> As a user of xfce I was slightly puzzled but the naming saying gnome as
> it sort of implies that it is specific to gnome, however the description
> clarifies that it applies to any gtk dependent DE. Maybe the naming
> should be general and the description should state gnome,xfce and
> anything else gtk dependent that is officially supported by arch.
>
> --
> Mauro Santos
>
and libreoffice-kde4 should be libreoffice-qt.


Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Auguste Pop
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Heiko Baums  wrote:
> Am Wed, 03 Aug 2011 14:09:06 +0200
> schrieb Jan de Groot :
>
>> As pacman will happily install multiple replacement packages, I would
>> suggest removing the provides= line from libreoffice-common and adding
>> replaces=libreoffice to the split packages that should get installed
>> when upgrading.
>
> And 'libreoffice-langpack' needs to be removed from depends of
> libreoffice-common. It doesn't make much sense to have it in depends
> and in optdepends anyway. I think it's better to keep it in
> optdepends, maybe with a post install note that no language package
> has been installed.
>
> Because of this someone got his language pack been uninstalled and
> replaced by a different one by pacman -Syu.
>
> See the bug report I have mentioned earlier.
>
> Heiko
>

i thought there was a choosing phase before actually install a
language pack when upgrading. the default choice is alphabetically the
first, which may caused the problem you just depicted.

best regards,


Re: [arch-general] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Meyithi
On 3 August 2011 14:06, Mauro Santos  wrote:
>
>
> My only (small) gripe is that libreoffice-gnome maybe should be called
> libreoffice-gtk.
>
> As a user of xfce I was slightly puzzled but the naming saying gnome as
> it sort of implies that it is specific to gnome, however the description
> clarifies that it applies to any gtk dependent DE. Maybe the naming
> should be general and the description should state gnome,xfce and
> anything else gtk dependent that is officially supported by arch.
>
> --
> Mauro Santos
>

Makes sense to me, Gnome implies GTK3 to me anyway.

-- 
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http://www.meyithi.com/
http://twitter.com/meyithi


Re: [arch-general] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Mauro Santos
On 03-08-2011 07:41, Hector Martinez-Seara wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm aware that recently there has been some changes in libreoffice
> package. The problem is that yesterday I updated my system and
> surprisingly only libreoffice-common was updated. By that I mean that
> I mean that not base, writer, impress... were available after the
> update, they dissapered. Moreover, if I make "pacman -S libreoffice"
> only  "libreoffice-common" is targeted and there is no traces of
> libreoffice-calc,  libreoffice-base,  libreoffice-draw The thing
> is that there seems to be a container called libreoffice which it is
> suppose to contain all this basic packages but in my case only
> installs "libreoffice-common". What I'm doing wrong? I hope it is not
> expected that we install one by one the components we want.
> Thanks in advance,
> Hector

My only (small) gripe is that libreoffice-gnome maybe should be called
libreoffice-gtk.

As a user of xfce I was slightly puzzled but the naming saying gnome as
it sort of implies that it is specific to gnome, however the description
clarifies that it applies to any gtk dependent DE. Maybe the naming
should be general and the description should state gnome,xfce and
anything else gtk dependent that is officially supported by arch.

-- 
Mauro Santos


Re: [arch-general] Plasma-desktop in KDE 4.7 can not start up

2011-08-03 Thread Stefano Avallone
On Wednesday, August 03, 2011 06:34:53 PM Leon Feng wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> After upgrade to KDE 4.7, plasma-desktop can not start anymore. Login in
> from kdm will stop at the splash screen.
> Switch to console by ctrl + alt + F1 and then run "top" plasma-desktop is
> using 100% CPU.
> Run "pkill plasma-desktop" , Login continue. But screen is black. I check
> .xsession-error file and found nothing special.
> 
> Does anyone encounter the same problem? How to find more info to track down
> this problem? Thanks.

Try to login with a fresh new account. If the problem persists, it might be 
due to the kwin compositor not liking your graphics driver. In that case, you 
might try to disable compositing (set "OpenGLIsUnsafe" to true in your 
~/.kde4/share/config/kwinrc) and restart KDE. If that works, you might try to 
change some advanced options in the Desktop Effects settings (e.g., try to 
disable "Use OpenGL 2 Shaders") and try to re-enable compositing. You might 
also consider to file a bug upstream.

Stefano



Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 03 Aug 2011 14:09:06 +0200
schrieb Jan de Groot :

> As pacman will happily install multiple replacement packages, I would
> suggest removing the provides= line from libreoffice-common and adding
> replaces=libreoffice to the split packages that should get installed
> when upgrading.

And 'libreoffice-langpack' needs to be removed from depends of
libreoffice-common. It doesn't make much sense to have it in depends
and in optdepends anyway. I think it's better to keep it in
optdepends, maybe with a post install note that no language package
has been installed.

Because of this someone got his language pack been uninstalled and
replaced by a different one by pacman -Syu.

See the bug report I have mentioned earlier.

Heiko


Re: [arch-general] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Cédric Girard
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Thomas Bächler  wrote:

> Yes, that shouldn't be. It's broken the way it is - either the group
> should be renamed, or the provides should be removed.
>

It's not the first time something similar happen. I think of some packages
that have been split and put within a group sharing one of the package name.

Maybe the way pacman handle groups must be changed to let user have choice,
even if group, package or provides are the same.

-- 
Cédric Girard


Re: [arch-general] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:51:06 +0200
schrieb Heiko Baums :

> Definitely provides should be removed. The software is called
> LibreOffice so pacman -S libreoffice is supposed to install the
> complete office suite.

And, btw., libreoffice-common is only a part of libreoffice. So it in
fact doesn't provide the full office suite.

Heiko


Re: [arch-general] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 03 Aug 2011 13:39:24 +0200
schrieb Thomas Bächler :

> Yes, that shouldn't be. It's broken the way it is - either the group
> should be renamed, or the provides should be removed.

Definitely provides should be removed. The software is called
LibreOffice so pacman -S libreoffice is supposed to install the complete
office suite.

Heiko


Re: [arch-general] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 03.08.2011 09:24, schrieb Auguste Pop:
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Guillermo Leira  wrote:
>> If you run pacman -Ss libreoffice, you see that there seems to be a 
>> libreoffice group. But when you run pacman -S libreoffice, only 
>> libreoffice-common is installed...
>>
> i guess that's because libreoffice-common provides libreoffice. try
> pacman -S $(pacman -Sgq libreoffice)
> 

Yes, that shouldn't be. It's broken the way it is - either the group
should be renamed, or the provides should be removed.



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Re: [arch-general] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 3 Aug 2011 09:41:35 +0300
schrieb Hector Martinez-Seara :

> Hi,
> I'm aware that recently there has been some changes in libreoffice
> package. The problem is that yesterday I updated my system and
> surprisingly only libreoffice-common was updated. By that I mean that
> I mean that not base, writer, impress... were available after the
> update, they dissapered. Moreover, if I make "pacman -S libreoffice"
> only  "libreoffice-common" is targeted and there is no traces of
> libreoffice-calc,  libreoffice-base,  libreoffice-draw The thing
> is that there seems to be a container called libreoffice which it is
> suppose to contain all this basic packages but in my case only
> installs "libreoffice-common". What I'm doing wrong? I hope it is not
> expected that we install one by one the components we want.
> Thanks in advance,
> Hector

It's a bug in libreoffice-common: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/25372

Heiko


Re: [arch-general] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Hector Martinez-Seara
Thanks for your replays,
Hector

On 3 August 2011 10:24, Auguste Pop  wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Guillermo Leira  wrote:
>> If you run pacman -Ss libreoffice, you see that there seems to be a 
>> libreoffice group. But when you run pacman -S libreoffice, only 
>> libreoffice-common is installed...
>>
> i guess that's because libreoffice-common provides libreoffice. try
> pacman -S $(pacman -Sgq libreoffice)
>



-- 
Hector Martínez-Seara Monné
mail: hse...@gmail.com
Tel: +34656271145
Tel: +358442709253


[arch-general] Plasma-desktop in KDE 4.7 can not start up

2011-08-03 Thread Leon Feng
Hi,

After upgrade to KDE 4.7, plasma-desktop can not start anymore. Login in
from kdm will stop at the splash screen.
Switch to console by ctrl + alt + F1 and then run "top" plasma-desktop is
using 100% CPU.
Run "pkill plasma-desktop" , Login continue. But screen is black. I check
.xsession-error file and found nothing special.

Does anyone encounter the same problem? How to find more info to track down
this problem? Thanks.


Re: [arch-general] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Auguste Pop
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Guillermo Leira  wrote:
> If you run pacman -Ss libreoffice, you see that there seems to be a 
> libreoffice group. But when you run pacman -S libreoffice, only 
> libreoffice-common is installed...
>
i guess that's because libreoffice-common provides libreoffice. try
pacman -S $(pacman -Sgq libreoffice)


Re: [arch-general] Installation of libreoffice

2011-08-03 Thread Guillermo Leira
> -Mensaje original-
> De: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org [mailto:arch-general-
> boun...@archlinux.org] En nombre de Auguste Pop
> Enviado el: miércoles, 03 de agosto de 2011 8:59
> Para: General Discussion about Arch Linux
> Asunto: Re: [arch-general] Installation of libreoffice
> 
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Hector Martinez-Seara 
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I'm aware that recently there has been some changes in libreoffice
> > package. The problem is that yesterday I updated my system and
> > surprisingly only libreoffice-common was updated. By that I mean that
> > I mean that not base, writer, impress... were available after the
> > update, they dissapered. Moreover, if I make "pacman -S libreoffice"
> > only  "libreoffice-common" is targeted and there is no traces of
> > libreoffice-calc,  libreoffice-base,  libreoffice-draw The thing
> > is that there seems to be a container called libreoffice which it is
> > suppose to contain all this basic packages but in my case only
> > installs "libreoffice-common". What I'm doing wrong? I hope it is not
> > expected that we install one by one the components we want.
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Hector
> > --
> > Hector Martínez-Seara Monné
> > mail: hse...@gmail.com
> > Tel: +34656271145
> > Tel: +358442709253
> >
> you should read the output of pacman when libreoffice is updated to
> libreoffice-common.

If you run pacman -Ss libreoffice, you see that there seems to be a libreoffice 
group. But when you run pacman -S libreoffice, only libreoffice-common is 
installed...

Best Regards,

Guillermo Leira