Re: [arch-general] libgl conflict with ati-dri, intel-dri, mach64-dri, ...

2012-03-26 Thread David C. Rankin
On 03/26/2012 07:01 AM, Karol Błażewicz wrote:
> Please do at least some research yourself before firing an e-mail to the list,
> e.g. https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/28938 should have given you a clue on
> what's going on: some of these *-dri drivers have been dropped, they're not in
> the repos anymore and they don't work with the current libgl 8.0.2-1.
> 
> If you do need ati-dri or intel-dri, you can still use them with the current 
> libgl.
> 

Karol,

  I checked www.archlinux.com and I checked packages. Usually it is just a
timing issue when these things pop up - thus my question "is it just a timing
issue?" There are times when any user can miss something in a bug report, etc..
Please don't take that as an open invitation to berate them openly. That is a
large part of the reason the Arch list has a negative reputation for being open
to users asking for help.

  There is a fine line between being helpful and being sarcastic. A simple see:
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/28938 would have sufficed.

  I appreciate your help, but I won't, nor should anyone else, tolerate abusive
behavior on this list.

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Re: [arch-general] libgl conflict with ati-dri, intel-dri, mach64-dri, ...

2012-03-26 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:01:40 +0200
Karol Błażewicz  wrote:

> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 01:35:57 +0200, David C. Rankin  
>  wrote:
> 
> > Guys,
> >
> >   On update today of an i686 box, I get the following unresolved error  
> > with
> > pacman -Syu:
> >
> > error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
> > :: ati-dri: requires libgl=7.11.2
> > :: intel-dri: requires libgl=7.11.2
> > :: mach64-dri: requires libgl=7.11.2
> > :: mga-dri: requires libgl=7.11.2
> > :: r128-dri: requires libgl=7.11.2
> > :: savage-dri: requires libgl=7.11.2
> > :: sis-dri: requires libgl=7.11.2
> > :: tdfx-dri: requires libgl=7.11.2
> >
> >   Is this just a timing issue with the dri files?
> >
> 
> 
> Please do at least some research yourself before firing an e-mail to the  
> list, e.g. https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/28938 should have given you a  
> clue on what's going on: some of these *-dri drivers have been dropped,  
> they're not in the repos anymore and they don't work with the current  
> libgl 8.0.2-1.
> 
> If you do need ati-dri or intel-dri, you can still use them with the  
> current libgl.

In addition, why on earth would you have all *-dri files installed? You don't
know your graphics card?

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Re: [arch-general] fsck on each boot?

2012-03-26 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 3:09 PM, gt  wrote:
> I recently added the fsck hook to mkinitcpio.conf after seeing it being
> recommended in the forums. I don't have a separate /usr though.
>
> Anyway, now after every boot i see:
>
> performing fsck on 
>
> It shows up clean, and happens in a flash of a second.
>
> So my question is that is the hook supposed to perform fsck everytime?
> Earlier (without the hook), it used to happen only on unclean shutdowns.

We always perform fsck on all partitions on every boot. The difference
with the fsck hook in initramf is that it fsck's the rootfs (and
potentially /usr) before mounting them. The reason for wanting to do
this is that otherwise you would be "out of luck" if your root could
not be mounted, or your fsck binary i broken due to issues on the
rootfs.

The reason fsck happens in a flash of a second is that it in most
cases does nothing. The exemption is if you shutdown uncleanly, or you
have booted a certain number of times without fscking.

-t


Re: [arch-general] fsck on each boot?

2012-03-26 Thread Christoph Vigano
On 03/26/2012 03:09 PM, gt wrote:
> I recently added the fsck hook to mkinitcpio.conf after seeing it being
> recommended in the forums. I don't have a separate /usr though.
> 
> Anyway, now after every boot i see:
> 
> performing fsck on 
> 
> It shows up clean, and happens in a flash of a second.
> 
> So my question is that is the hook supposed to perform fsck everytime?
> Earlier (without the hook), it used to happen only on unclean shutdowns.
> 

Yes, it's supposed to be like this. I think the main intention is to
guarantee a clean root filesystem before trying to mount e.g. a seperate
/home or /usr, which may depend on content of the rootfs (keyfiles,
configuration files, ...).

This all adds up to be a precaution taken by the devs to guarantee a
smooth experience IMO :)

Greetings,
Christoph



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[arch-general] fsck on each boot?

2012-03-26 Thread gt
I recently added the fsck hook to mkinitcpio.conf after seeing it being
recommended in the forums. I don't have a separate /usr though.

Anyway, now after every boot i see:

performing fsck on 

It shows up clean, and happens in a flash of a second.

So my question is that is the hook supposed to perform fsck everytime?
Earlier (without the hook), it used to happen only on unclean shutdowns.

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Re: [arch-general] libgl conflict with ati-dri, intel-dri, mach64-dri, ...

2012-03-26 Thread Karol Błażewicz
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 01:35:57 +0200, David C. Rankin  
 wrote:



Guys,

  On update today of an i686 box, I get the following unresolved error  
with

pacman -Syu:

error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: ati-dri: requires libgl=7.11.2
:: intel-dri: requires libgl=7.11.2
:: mach64-dri: requires libgl=7.11.2
:: mga-dri: requires libgl=7.11.2
:: r128-dri: requires libgl=7.11.2
:: savage-dri: requires libgl=7.11.2
:: sis-dri: requires libgl=7.11.2
:: tdfx-dri: requires libgl=7.11.2

  Is this just a timing issue with the dri files?




Please do at least some research yourself before firing an e-mail to the  
list, e.g. https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/28938 should have given you a  
clue on what's going on: some of these *-dri drivers have been dropped,  
they're not in the repos anymore and they don't work with the current  
libgl 8.0.2-1.


If you do need ati-dri or intel-dri, you can still use them with the  
current libgl.


Re: [arch-general] Grub2

2012-03-26 Thread Paul Gideon Dann
On Monday 26 Mar 2012 02:18:53 Saurav Modak wrote:
> Have you tried manually adding it in grub.cfg BTW?

Editing grub.cfg is a naughty thing to do with Grub2 :p  The "correct" thing 
to do would be to add the fallback to /etc/grub.d/41_custom.  However, Grub 
previously automatically detected the fallback correctly.  I'm wondering why 
it doesn't now.

Paul