[arch-general] pm-hibernate not working since update to 3.4.5-1-ARCH
Hello, I have already been used to not beeing able to suspend my MacBook Pro since the buggy nvidia version which came with 3.4.x kernel. But as of the latest updates which brought kernel 3.4.5-1 I am not able to use pm-hibernate anymore. When looking into /var/log/pm-suspend.log it seems that hibernating went well: lots of "success" messages and no errors. But when I then start the MacBook again it does not resume but boots normally. fsck detects that disks haven't been unmounted orderly, recovers journal and I am back to a fresh booted system then. I already looked up the wiki about pm-utils and found something about adding 'acpi_sleep=nonvs' in /boot/grub/menu.lst. Issues mentioned there with kernel versions around 2.6, which seems to be long time ago now. I tried it anyway, but with no effect at all. Any ideas what might be causing this issue? More fresh bugs in nvidia 302.17-3? TIA, Arvid -- [ Arvid Warnecke ][ arvid (at) nostalgix (dot) org ] [ IRC/OPN: "madhatter" ][ http://www.nostalgix.org ] ---[ ThreePiO was right: Let the Wookiee win. ]--- pgpWDG1CVkshH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-general] haveged and Secure Cryptography
[2012-07-19 22:10:05 -0700] David Hunter: > I'm sure that it's always going to > be "random enough", but I often make use of Archlinux in forensic > environments involving encrypted disks and files or transferring > things over SSL, so I do need to know if there is even a theoretical > weakness in my environment in case my tools and methodologies are > called into question. There are no known weaknesses as far as I know, but you can always question the hypothesis that runtime measurements bear a significant amount of entropy. Now if you are that paranoid you might also want to avoid kernel-gathered entropy and just get yourself a physical entropy generating device. -- Gaetan
[arch-general] haveged and Secure Cryptography
Does anyone know if haveged significantly affects things like truecrypt, cryptsetup, RSA, or SSL if you happen to leave the daemon running for long periods of time? I'm sure that it's always going to be "random enough", but I often make use of Archlinux in forensic environments involving encrypted disks and files or transferring things over SSL, so I do need to know if there is even a theoretical weakness in my environment in case my tools and methodologies are called into question. Thanks -- David Hunter
Re: [arch-general] Updating AUR package with pacman
On Thursday 19 Jul 2012 18:44:13 Thorsten Jolitz wrote: > Jonathan Dlouhy writes: > > > On 07/19/2012 12:18 PM, Jayesh Badwaik wrote: > >> On Thursday 19 Jul 2012 17:13:44 Thorsten Jolitz wrote: > >>> Hi List, > >>> > >>> when I want to install a new version from an already installed AUR > >>> package - do I have to remove the old version first, or do I simply > >>> follow the same steps as if there would be no old version on my machine > >>> and pacman takes care of everything? > >>> > >>> > >> You can just install the new version. Pacman takes care of it. But > >> even better would be to use something like packer/yaourt. > > > > packer -Syu --auronly > > Packer must be new somehow, did not hear about it before (only about > yaourt). So this would render my git-clone of the AUR repo superfluous, > because it makes AUR packages as easily installable and updatable like > packages form the official repos? > > To answer your question - Yes. But you have to be careful. First do your normal system upgrade through pacman pacman -Syu and after that update AUR packages. Do not install normal packages through packer or yaourt, there have been some problems last time I was reading about it. -- Jayesh Badwaik stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
Re: [arch-general] Updating AUR package with pacman
2012/7/20 Christian Hesse : > Don deJuan on Thu, 2012/07/19 09:53: >> On 07/19/2012 09:52 AM, Christian Hesse wrote: >> > Thorsten Jolitz on Thu, 2012/07/19 18:44: >> >> [...] So this would render my git-clone of the AUR repo superfluous, >> >> [...] >> > >> > Oh, wait! Is AUR accessible via git? That would be really great! >> > >> >> From the wiki: >> Git Repo >> >> A Git Repo of the AUR is maintained by Thomas Dziedzic providing package >> history among other things. It is updated at least once a day. To clone >> the repository (several hundred MB): >> >> $ git clone git://pkgbuild.com/aur-mirror.git > > Nice! > > Though I would prefer a rsync interface. I do not need package history and > would like to save the disk space... There is also aur3[1]. It offers metadata (things you see on the package pages of AUR website) in additional to PKGBUILDs. It doesn't provide rsync access, but I found 18MB (PKGBUILD + metadata, it's compressed) is acceptable. aur3 also has a really neat JSON API, offering full regex searching. 1. http://aur3.org/ -- Regards, Cheer Xiao
Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems
D. R. Evans [2012.07.19 1742 -0600]: > Alex Belanger said the following at 07/18/2012 05:27 AM : > > pacman -Syu --ignore glibc pacman -Su > > > I had the same problem, went to archlinux website and they say exactly what > > you need to do and why. You shouldn't toy with it yourself, nor use the > > --force option. Try this, if it doesn't work, they have an in-depth guide > > too. > > > > I have tried this, and there seems to be a catch-22... > > 1. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:usrlib > > > > If running "pacman -Syu --ignore glibc" gives: > > warning: ignoring package glibc-2.16.0-2 > warning: cannot resolve "glibc>=2.16", a dependency of "gcc-libs" > > ... > > :: The following packages cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable dependencies: > binutils gcc gcc-libs > > Do you want to skip the above packages for this upgrade [y/N] > > Say "y" to skipping the packages, then install them all using (e.g.): > > > > But if I do that, I hit the /var/run and /var/lock problem: > > > > (127/127) checking for file conflicts > > [##] > 100% > error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) > filesystem: /var/lock exists in filesystem > filesystem: /var/run exists in filesystem > Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. > [root@shack n7dr]# > > > > 2. > https://www.archlinux.org/news/filesystem-upgrade-manual-intervention-required-1/ > > So instead of dealing with glibc, I try to deal with the /var/run and > /var/lock problem first. On my system, these are both symlinks. So, following > instructions, I do: > > > > If the symlinks are already in place on your system (which should be the case > for most people), then you can simply perform > > pacman -Syu --ignore filesystem && pacman -S filesystem --force > > > > and that gives: > > > > error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) > glibc: /lib exists in filesystem > Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. > > > > So it looks to me that I'm being told, basically, "you have two errors, α and > β. Before you fix α you must fix β. And before you fix β you must fix α." > > Am I misinterpreting or misunderstanding the instructions? They seem pretty > clear, and I believe I followed them faithfully. > > Doc > > -- > Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR > Well, the filesystem instructions are older and applied at the time the glibc upgrade was not an issue yet. Combining the two instructions, I would guess the following should work: pacman -Syu --ignore filesystem --ignore glibc pacman -S --force filesystem --ignore glibc pacman -Sd pacman -Su Note that I did not try this, but it seems to be the logical combination of the two. Maybe one of the developers can chime in and confirm that this is the right strategy. Cheers, Norbert
Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/19/12 16:42, D. R. Evans wrote: > > pacman -Syu --ignore filesystem && pacman -S filesystem --force > > > > and that gives: > > > > error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) glibc: /lib > exists in filesystem Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. > > > Somebody will need to clarify the precise syntax. But it looks to me like you can't just ignore filesystem here; you also need to ignore glibc, then--I think--do the glibc upgrade without the --force option following the filesystem upgrade. - -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQCKEMAAoJELT202JKF+xpyyIP/jWg2DW+0+XiJUQV9E+xVKRE gPHw3t1X/AUhG6Xijtu9ApfjiUlSQg44Zk9uJoGjhGdb/a/SqdROUzvnoHc7A7/3 FI32L+fQTyJJb84f1V93MeC/T1hyC3Pjht8xHOjIoDcgf1LmlWsy0gnXothJFagV h0hYrQ8nQbtmib1GHKlGyfMdRReL9+dZKm9p3n4G29rkvTzCEfG/S52/lgvCyoQZ gmJ2rJq4h2IQpIHIN6sSKJc8GlgYJMyYGuxTxi/XztBFUtl9mzhNvrmMILVPAvC9 qkuiF1fuZv7322jPfI6F3eBmvttrFS6SJMpRnK6D1oAS06pPWrksSul6O4ckguTM jNWwxS4oz1+1KhwcRrGx7jr3Df+/eVTYMREPBkjqEAyt1s2rtH7R9Yx08nB2Lfd5 1dnLYSDyFI7H5zmR6xbnq2+Bz9oSkpUCIK3Wn4Li0Z0SgW4dinzisO59AQKG64hS /3SSOzQxvcsMnIExL3D1uOh5Wu5ibew9IKd9wEfKsyq9iFsLBnHtlCx/lc93keb1 CpHUuEpyD+dRzB95iHqwr3pKgK5iFDuyehZTYvnyWNtieaJt53Yl3S67phc9jBzr rwh8w0NYWD870vvJnu239L4ZxwkaUru5KAiJE+iDN/o3fKbjorLkxmq0komhTq4x Rj8HqUOr2tCDulVG8gdV =v+z4 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems
Alex Belanger said the following at 07/18/2012 05:27 AM : > pacman -Syu --ignore glibc pacman -Su > I had the same problem, went to archlinux website and they say exactly what > you need to do and why. You shouldn't toy with it yourself, nor use the > --force option. Try this, if it doesn't work, they have an in-depth guide > too. > I have tried this, and there seems to be a catch-22... 1. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:usrlib If running "pacman -Syu --ignore glibc" gives: warning: ignoring package glibc-2.16.0-2 warning: cannot resolve "glibc>=2.16", a dependency of "gcc-libs" ... :: The following packages cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable dependencies: binutils gcc gcc-libs Do you want to skip the above packages for this upgrade [y/N] Say "y" to skipping the packages, then install them all using (e.g.): But if I do that, I hit the /var/run and /var/lock problem: (127/127) checking for file conflicts [##] 100% error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) filesystem: /var/lock exists in filesystem filesystem: /var/run exists in filesystem Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. [root@shack n7dr]# 2. https://www.archlinux.org/news/filesystem-upgrade-manual-intervention-required-1/ So instead of dealing with glibc, I try to deal with the /var/run and /var/lock problem first. On my system, these are both symlinks. So, following instructions, I do: If the symlinks are already in place on your system (which should be the case for most people), then you can simply perform pacman -Syu --ignore filesystem && pacman -S filesystem --force and that gives: error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) glibc: /lib exists in filesystem Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. So it looks to me that I'm being told, basically, "you have two errors, α and β. Before you fix α you must fix β. And before you fix β you must fix α." Am I misinterpreting or misunderstanding the instructions? They seem pretty clear, and I believe I followed them faithfully. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems
Hello all, I also experienced initial problems getting the new glibc 2.16.0-2 to work. In my case, the problem was an older version of lib32-glibc (I think I had version 2.14.x installed, sorry can't remember exactly). After enabling the multilib repo in /etc/pacman.conf and doing sudo pacman -Syu --ignore glibc sudo pacman -Su Here is a link to a corresponding forum post: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1131545 Everything was updated well. HTH, André On 07/18/2012 11:10 PM, P .NIKOLIC wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:27:11 +0200 > Tom Gundersen wrote: > > Pruned >> >> You sholud delete the duplicate files from /usr/lib, did you do this? >> Then it _should_ work... >> >> -t > > > Hi Tom > > > Well word on the street is it seems to have worked at last > now i have another problem cropped up for which i will start a new > thread > > ThanksPete . >
Re: [arch-general] Updating AUR package with pacman
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Jelle van der Waa wrote: > On 19/07/12 17:13, Thorsten Jolitz wrote: >> >> Hi List, >> >> when I want to install a new version from an already installed AUR >> package - do I have to remove the old version first, or do I simply >> follow the same steps as if there would be no old version on my machine >> and pacman takes care of everything? >> > Just build a new version of the AUR package and pacman will update it by > installing the new package. > Yes after building from the AUR: pacman -U path/to/package-compressed-xz-file Interestingly I have tigervnc installed, that until recently used to be in AUR - last night when I did pacman -Syu I found this package had moved to community and obligingly updated to the new version without me doing anything special - nice! -- mike c
Re: [arch-general] Updating AUR package with pacman
Don deJuan on Thu, 2012/07/19 09:53:
> On 07/19/2012 09:52 AM, Christian Hesse wrote:
> > Thorsten Jolitz on Thu, 2012/07/19 18:44:
> >> [...] So this would render my git-clone of the AUR repo superfluous,
> >> [...]
> >
> > Oh, wait! Is AUR accessible via git? That would be really great!
> >
>
> From the wiki:
> Git Repo
>
> A Git Repo of the AUR is maintained by Thomas Dziedzic providing package
> history among other things. It is updated at least once a day. To clone
> the repository (several hundred MB):
>
> $ git clone git://pkgbuild.com/aur-mirror.git
Nice!
Though I would prefer a rsync interface. I do not need package history and
would like to save the disk space...
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Re: [arch-general] Updating AUR package with pacman
On 07/19/2012 09:52 AM, Christian Hesse wrote: Thorsten Jolitz on Thu, 2012/07/19 18:44: [...] So this would render my git-clone of the AUR repo superfluous, [...] Oh, wait! Is AUR accessible via git? That would be really great! From the wiki: Git Repo A Git Repo of the AUR is maintained by Thomas Dziedzic providing package history among other things. It is updated at least once a day. To clone the repository (several hundred MB): $ git clone git://pkgbuild.com/aur-mirror.git https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_User_Repository hth
Re: [arch-general] Updating AUR package with pacman
Thorsten Jolitz on Thu, 2012/07/19 18:44:
> [...] So this would render my git-clone of the AUR repo superfluous, [...]
Oh, wait! Is AUR accessible via git? That would be really great!
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Re: [arch-general] Updating AUR package with pacman
Jonathan Dlouhy writes: > On 07/19/2012 12:18 PM, Jayesh Badwaik wrote: >> On Thursday 19 Jul 2012 17:13:44 Thorsten Jolitz wrote: >>> Hi List, >>> >>> when I want to install a new version from an already installed AUR >>> package - do I have to remove the old version first, or do I simply >>> follow the same steps as if there would be no old version on my machine >>> and pacman takes care of everything? >>> >>> >> You can just install the new version. Pacman takes care of it. But >> even better would be to use something like packer/yaourt. > > packer -Syu --auronly Packer must be new somehow, did not hear about it before (only about yaourt). So this would render my git-clone of the AUR repo superfluous, because it makes AUR packages as easily installable and updatable like packages form the official repos? -- cheers, Thorsten
Re: [arch-general] Updating AUR package with pacman
On 07/19/2012 12:18 PM, Jayesh Badwaik wrote: On Thursday 19 Jul 2012 17:13:44 Thorsten Jolitz wrote: Hi List, when I want to install a new version from an already installed AUR package - do I have to remove the old version first, or do I simply follow the same steps as if there would be no old version on my machine and pacman takes care of everything? You can just install the new version. Pacman takes care of it. But even better would be to use something like packer/yaourt. packer -Syu --auronly
Re: [arch-general] Updating AUR package with pacman
On Thursday 19 Jul 2012 17:13:44 Thorsten Jolitz wrote: > > Hi List, > > when I want to install a new version from an already installed AUR > package - do I have to remove the old version first, or do I simply > follow the same steps as if there would be no old version on my machine > and pacman takes care of everything? > > You can just install the new version. Pacman takes care of it. But even better would be to use something like packer/yaourt. -- Jayesh Badwaik stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
Re: [arch-general] Updating AUR package with pacman
On 19/07/12 17:13, Thorsten Jolitz wrote: > > Hi List, > > when I want to install a new version from an already installed AUR > package - do I have to remove the old version first, or do I simply > follow the same steps as if there would be no old version on my machine > and pacman takes care of everything? > Just build a new version of the AUR package and pacman will update it by installing the new package. -- Jelle van der Waa signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[arch-general] Updating AUR package with pacman
Hi List, when I want to install a new version from an already installed AUR package - do I have to remove the old version first, or do I simply follow the same steps as if there would be no old version on my machine and pacman takes care of everything? -- cheers, Thorsten
Re: [arch-general] claws-mail is it possible to see own posts to mailinglist?
Am 19.07.2012 16:40, schrieb Leonid Isaev: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:58:19 +0300 > Vytautas Stankevičius wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Tobias Powalowski >> wrote: >>> Am 19.07.2012 09:45, schrieb gt: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 01:07:40PM +0530, gt wrote: > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 09:16:57AM +0200, Tobias Powalowski wrote: >> Hi, >> I have a big problem with claws-mail, is it somehow possible to see own >> posts to mailinglists? >> I'm using gmail imap and somehow my own posts are not shown. >> Thunderbird does not have this issue. >> >> greetings >> tpowa > You don't have a "sent" or "all mail" folder/tag ? >>> Well yes I have a sent folder. EDIT: Maybe this is relevant http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php?title=Using_Claws_with_Gmail >>> I used that guide and it does not work as it should with MLs. >>> greetings >>> tpowa >>> >>> >> When you send message to mailing list with gmail smtp, you don't >> receive a copy of your sent mail. It is the same as with webinterface. >> >> http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=6588 > Ha... I can't even send a mail to myself with default GMail > webinterface/settings. > This works here without problems. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tp...@archlinux.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-general] claws-mail is it possible to see own posts to mailinglist?
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:05:20 +0200 Tobias Powalowski wrote: > > When you send message to mailing list with gmail smtp, you don't > > receive a copy of your sent mail. It is the same as with webinterface. > > > > http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=6588 > This is not true sending through webinterface works as tbird works. > I skip inbox and put new label on MLs and this works just fine. > So where is claws-mail doing something different? > > greetings > tpowa > I am not sure how you did that in GMail, but if claws doesn't work with your config, I'd suggest adding processing rules on (local) Sent in CM (right click on Sent -> Processing). Then you can set up a rule to match "[arch-" in subject (or a more generic regexp) to copy your own messages to an appropriate ML folder or Inbox... You can even colorize your own messages this way. Best, -- Leonid Isaev GnuPG key: 0x164B5A6D Fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-general] claws-mail is it possible to see own posts to mailinglist?
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:58:19 +0300 Vytautas Stankevičius wrote: > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Tobias Powalowski > wrote: > > Am 19.07.2012 09:45, schrieb gt: > >> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 01:07:40PM +0530, gt wrote: > >>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 09:16:57AM +0200, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > Hi, > I have a big problem with claws-mail, is it somehow possible to see own > posts to mailinglists? > I'm using gmail imap and somehow my own posts are not shown. > Thunderbird does not have this issue. > > greetings > tpowa > >>> You don't have a "sent" or "all mail" folder/tag ? > > Well yes I have a sent folder. > >> EDIT: Maybe this is relevant > >> > >> http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php?title=Using_Claws_with_Gmail > > I used that guide and it does not work as it should with MLs. > > greetings > > tpowa > > > > > > When you send message to mailing list with gmail smtp, you don't > receive a copy of your sent mail. It is the same as with webinterface. > > http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=6588 Ha... I can't even send a mail to myself with default GMail webinterface/settings. -- Leonid Isaev GnuPG key: 0x164B5A6D Fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-general] Quick question about post-MBR gap?
> Indeed it is easy to put a gap between the MBR and the first partition > when partitioning from scratch - the main issue is for anyone with a > pre-existing (non-linux) partition at the start of the hard drive > containing an OEM installed Windows system or HPA recovery area or > similar You can make grub just use a pointer (I forget the name) in the MBR and actually use the start of any partition instead. Have you already downloaded the grub 2 manual, it is explained in there anyway. Apologies if I haven't looked hard enough at your mails. -- Why not do something good every day and install BOINC.
Re: [arch-general] Quick question about post-MBR gap?
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Martti Kühne wrote: > last time I installed arch on a virtual machine, I was unable to install > grub2. > one google search later I put the mbr gap of 2MiB back in place and everything > went smoothly. 2MiB isn't much by today's standards, and if the software says > it needs it, why not just give it? if you find a way to avoid it, that would > be > great, although I can think of numerous reasons why that shouldn't work. > just my two cents. > > cheers! > mar77i Indeed it is easy to put a gap between the MBR and the first partition when partitioning from scratch - the main issue is for anyone with a pre-existing (non-linux) partition at the start of the hard drive containing an OEM installed Windows system or HPA recovery area or similar - what I have done many times in the past is to shrink the windows partition in a newly acquired desktop or laptop, and then add in suitable partitions for the linux needs in the newly available space in the rest of the disc. However what I have usually not done is to "move" the Windows/HPA partitions at the start of the drive - on occasions when I have attempted to move them along a bit (say to make space for a /boot ext4 partition) then booting Windows can give messages that it is not entirely happy (sic!) - sometimes Windows "fixes" itself but occasionally not! I have usually ended up dumping Windows altogether if that happens and repartitioning the drive from scratch and putting only linux on it and resorting to using Windows on other machines. However for some people without access to other machines to run applications that have no linux equivalent it is vital to keep a functional Windows system - for example updating many GPS boxes eg from Garmin can only be done via Windows - similarly to update (officially) the Android system on a Samsung cellphone is only realistic using Samsung Kies on a Windows machine. There are many similar examples of the need to keep Windows. Of course for many seasoned arch users there is nothing to beat it once it is installed - but unfortunately there still remain some tasks for which linux cannot be used. I have also tried using Windows in a VM for such tasks and have frequently come up against problems that are tough to crack. Hence a dual boot (or dedicated) Windows machine is for me at least a necessity even though the majority of my work can be done perfectly well and efficiently with arch. Over the past ten years I have done somewhere around 150 linux installs, and many disc partitioning sessions - but maybe others have a lot more experience than I have! Having been through a certain amount of pain at times concerning an attempt to keep Windows working as well as the linux in a dual boot machine, and now seeing a pretty major change to the bootlloader coming up it is probably sensible to read ahead as much as possible, and be as prepared as possible for how to deal with different install scenarios, but also be prepared for quite a lot of work to recover if it all goes pear shaped during the process. I will certainly be doing what I can in this regard and I will also be doing test installs on a non-critical machine - but I do have a couple of machines where keeping Windows is essential - and on those machines I already also have arch dual booting. I hope that the move to grub2 gives a minimum of problems during the transition period. -- mike c
Re: [arch-general] claws-mail is it possible to see own posts to mailinglist?
> When you send message to mailing list with gmail smtp, you don't > receive a copy of your sent mail. It is the same as with webinterface. > > http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=6588 This is not true sending through webinterface works as tbird works. I skip inbox and put new label on MLs and this works just fine. So where is claws-mail doing something different? greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tp...@archlinux.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-general] claws-mail is it possible to see own posts to mailinglist?
Using claws-mail for a year and still do not know that my own posts can be displayed in thread. On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:16:57 +0200 Tobias Powalowski wrote: > Hi, > I have a big problem with claws-mail, is it somehow possible to see > own posts to mailinglists? > I'm using gmail imap and somehow my own posts are not shown. > Thunderbird does not have this issue. > > greetings > tpowa > -- PHAM Van Diep i...@favadi.com - dieppham...@vccorp.vn www.favadi.com - (+84) 984 339 841 System Administrator, Adtech, VCCorp, VN -- There are 10 types of people, those who understand binary and those who don't. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-general] claws-mail is it possible to see own posts to mailinglist?
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > Am 19.07.2012 09:45, schrieb gt: >> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 01:07:40PM +0530, gt wrote: >>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 09:16:57AM +0200, Tobias Powalowski wrote: Hi, I have a big problem with claws-mail, is it somehow possible to see own posts to mailinglists? I'm using gmail imap and somehow my own posts are not shown. Thunderbird does not have this issue. greetings tpowa >>> You don't have a "sent" or "all mail" folder/tag ? > Well yes I have a sent folder. >> EDIT: Maybe this is relevant >> >> http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php?title=Using_Claws_with_Gmail > I used that guide and it does not work as it should with MLs. > greetings > tpowa > > When you send message to mailing list with gmail smtp, you don't receive a copy of your sent mail. It is the same as with webinterface. http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=6588
Re: [arch-general] claws-mail is it possible to see own posts to mailinglist?
Am 19.07.2012 09:45, schrieb gt: > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 01:07:40PM +0530, gt wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 09:16:57AM +0200, Tobias Powalowski wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I have a big problem with claws-mail, is it somehow possible to see own >>> posts to mailinglists? >>> I'm using gmail imap and somehow my own posts are not shown. >>> Thunderbird does not have this issue. >>> >>> greetings >>> tpowa >> You don't have a "sent" or "all mail" folder/tag ? Well yes I have a sent folder. > EDIT: Maybe this is relevant > > http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php?title=Using_Claws_with_Gmail I used that guide and it does not work as it should with MLs. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tp...@archlinux.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-general] claws-mail is it possible to see own posts to mailinglist?
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 01:07:40PM +0530, gt wrote: > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 09:16:57AM +0200, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a big problem with claws-mail, is it somehow possible to see own > > posts to mailinglists? > > I'm using gmail imap and somehow my own posts are not shown. > > Thunderbird does not have this issue. > > > > greetings > > tpowa > > You don't have a "sent" or "all mail" folder/tag ? EDIT: Maybe this is relevant http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php?title=Using_Claws_with_Gmail
Re: [arch-general] claws-mail is it possible to see own posts to mailinglist?
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 09:16:57AM +0200, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > Hi, > I have a big problem with claws-mail, is it somehow possible to see own > posts to mailinglists? > I'm using gmail imap and somehow my own posts are not shown. > Thunderbird does not have this issue. > > greetings > tpowa You don't have a "sent" or "all mail" folder/tag ?
Re: [arch-general] claws-mail is it possible to see own posts to mailinglist?
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:16:57 +0200 Tobias Powalowski wrote: > Hi, > I have a big problem with claws-mail, is it somehow possible to see > own posts to mailinglists? > I'm using gmail imap and somehow my own posts are not shown. > Thunderbird does not have this issue. > > greetings > tpowa I have not changed any settings here to make it work and i see my own posts to lists all the time ..so you must have altered a stock setting somewhere Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.4.5-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jul 16 21:35:54 CEST 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[arch-general] claws-mail is it possible to see own posts to mailinglist?
Hi, I have a big problem with claws-mail, is it somehow possible to see own posts to mailinglists? I'm using gmail imap and somehow my own posts are not shown. Thunderbird does not have this issue. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tp...@archlinux.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
