Re: [arch-general] XFCE broken with Gnome 3.8?
On 04/22/2013 11:05 PM, David Rosenstrauch wrote: On 04/22/2013 02:42 PM, Narve wrote: I'm running Xfce with LXDM and it works smoothly even with the new gnome version - tho the only packages from the gnome-group I have installed are those: narve ~ % pacman -Qg gnome [20:38:45 on 13-04-22] gnome gnome-icon-theme gnome gnome-icon-theme-symbolic gnome xdg-user-dirs-gtk Two of those are even dependencies for xfce4-settings, so they kinda belong to the suite.. So it's either some breakage caused by other gnome packages or something completely different. Narve It's something unique to my user settings, although I haven't been able to pin down exactly what yet. When I launch XFCE as a different user it works fine. That said, XFCE has been working fine with my configuration for months (years?), so it's actually rather frustrating to have it break like this. I feel your pain. I recently wanted to re-write the wiki because of issues I was having with ssh X forwarding. That's when a respondent insisted I review my settings because the wiki was correct. Sure enough, I found a directive in my .bashrc, a long-forgotten attempt to solve another problem, that was doing me in. The lesson I learned from that was to beware of carrying over a .bashrc for too many installations. You might start with the .bashrc of the different user you indicate worked and gradually start adding back commands as they exist in your existing .bashrc file. The same should be said of your .xinitrc and .Xresources files. There *is* a reason for why things go wrong even though we don't want to admit it's our fault sometimes! :-) Good luck. Kinney
[arch-general] Empathy and Google Talk
Greetings all, I've been using Xfce for quite a while as I've been dissatisfied with GNOME-Shell, but since 3.8 made it to the stable repos, I decided to try it out in Classic mode. I really like it. However, I can't seem to add my Google Talk account to Empathy. When the Accounts Window pops up, there is a dialog asking me what type of chat account I have, but there seems to be no options available. Is there a dependency I'm missing? Thanks, Jayson
[arch-general] libxml2 out of date
Hi, Is there a reason (other than lack of time) that libxml2 has not been updated from 2.8 to 2.9 (now 2.9.1)? Regards -- Ross Lagerwall
Re: [arch-general] Empathy and Google Talk
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 09:53:11PM -0400, Jayson Rowe wrote: Greetings all, I've been using Xfce for quite a while as I've been dissatisfied with GNOME-Shell, but since 3.8 made it to the stable repos, I decided to try it out in Classic mode. I really like it. However, I can't seem to add my Google Talk account to Empathy. When the Accounts Window pops up, there is a dialog asking me what type of chat account I have, but there seems to be no options available. Is there a dependency I'm missing? Thanks, Jayson Have a look at the optional dependencies for empathy: $ pacman -Qi empathy ... Optional Deps : telepathy-gabble: XMPP/Jabber support [installed] telepathy-idle: IRC support [installed] telepathy-salut: Link-local XMPP support telepathy-rakia: SIP support telepathy-haze: libpurple support Regards -- Ross Lagerwall
Re: [arch-general] XFCE broken with Gnome 3.8?
On 23-04-2013 06:01, David Rosenstrauch wrote: On 04/22/2013 01:12 PM, David Rosenstrauch wrote: I picked up some Gnome package upgrades last night during a pacman update, and I haven't been able to log into XFCE ever since. It gets most of the way through the login process, then craps out and falls back to the session manager (LXDM). I'm not even able to see any debug information about what's going on. Anyone have a clue / pointer to a fix / workaround? Thanks, DR OK, I was finally able to pin this down. Apparently when I whack my XFCE session cache file (~/.cache/sessions/xfce4-session-daroselin:0) the problem goes away and I can start up XFCE no problem. But as soon as I save the session, creating a new session cache file, XFCE starts to crap out at startup. I'm not sure what in the session cache is causing the problem. The only slightly odd things that I'm running in my session that are getting saved to the cache file are qps, and kalarm (which then pull in a whole bunch of akonadi dependency crap). Workaround for now seems to be never save my XFCE session, which fortunately isn't too much of a hardship for me, since I don't rely on it too heavily. DR I've had that problem a long time ago (a few years back) and since then I have stopped saving the session. It also took me some time to figure it out back then and now I always uncheck the save session checkbox to avoid problems. -- Mauro Santos
Re: [arch-general] Gnome 3.8 and desktop background
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Karol Babioch ka...@babioch.de wrote: [...] I guess you are using some sort of an extension to get icons on the desktop? That sort of an extension is nautilus' (imo annoying) property to create its desktop window when it's not already there. To set a desktop background there you need to tell gnome and nautilus instead of wmsetbg/feh/display what desktop background you wish. There seems to be a gconftool-2 way to do that properly [0]. cheers! mar77i [0] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-244297.html
Re: [arch-general] XFCE broken with Gnome 3.8?
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:01 AM, David Rosenstrauch dar...@darose.netwrote: Apparently when I whack my XFCE session cache file (~/.cache/sessions/xfce4-**session-daroselin:0) the problem goes away and I can start up XFCE no problem. But as soon as I save the session, creating a new session cache file, XFCE starts to crap out at startup. Instead of saving a session, use the XDG autostart directory ($HOME/.config/ autostart). Copy the .desktop files from /usr/share/applications, log out and log in again. That should work better. -- Only my skepticism keeps me from being an atheist. —Voltaire http://about.me/palopezv
[arch-general] journalctl equivalent for /var/log/kernel.log
Hello all, This should have been easy to find, but I haven't had any luck. What's the systemd equivalent to tail -f /var/log/kernel.log? I'm trying to slowly start using journalctl instead of syslog... Paul
Re: [arch-general] journalctl equivalent for /var/log/kernel.log
Am 23.04.2013 15:08, schrieb Paul Gideon Dann: Hello all, This should have been easy to find, but I haven't had any luck. What's the systemd equivalent to tail -f /var/log/kernel.log? I'm trying to slowly start using journalctl instead of syslog... journalctl -f _TRANSPORT=kernel signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-general] journalctl equivalent for /var/log/kernel.log
On Tuesday 23 Apr 2013 15:14:41 Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 23.04.2013 15:08, schrieb Paul Gideon Dann: Hello all, This should have been easy to find, but I haven't had any luck. What's the systemd equivalent to tail -f /var/log/kernel.log? I'm trying to slowly start using journalctl instead of syslog... journalctl -f _TRANSPORT=kernel Perfect. Thank you. Paul
[arch-general] ntp-signd support for Samba4
Now that Samba 4 is the deault, I think the ntp package needs to be configured with '--enable-ntp-signd' because this is needed for Active Directory clients to be able to synchronize time via the Active Directory component of Samba 4. As far as I know this is necessary but the wiki makes no mention of it so I may of course be wrong Does anybody else know more about this?
Re: [arch-general] Gnome 3.8 and desktop background
-Mensaje original- De: arch-general [mailto:arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org] En nombre de Martti Kühne Enviado el: martes, 23 de abril de 2013 13:39 Para: General Discussion about Arch Linux Asunto: Re: [arch-general] Gnome 3.8 and desktop background On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Karol Babioch ka...@babioch.de wrote: [...] I guess you are using some sort of an extension to get icons on the desktop? That sort of an extension is nautilus' (imo annoying) property to create its desktop window when it's not already there. To set a desktop background there you need to tell gnome and nautilus instead of wmsetbg/feh/display what desktop background you wish. There seems to be a gconftool-2 way to do that properly [0]. cheers! mar77i [0] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-244297.html I'm using the following script. I don't remember where I found it. I call it from a cron job. #!/usr/bin/bash # Script to rotate GNOME 3 wallpapers export $(xargs -n 1 -0 echo /proc/$(pidof gnome-session)/environ | grep -Z DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=) PICTUREDIR=/home/gleira/backgrounds/ NEWBACKGROUND=$(ls $PICTUREDIR | shuf -n1) uri=file://$PICTUREDIR$NEWBACKGROUND GSETTINGS_BACKEND=dconf gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri $uri GSETTINGS_BACKEND=dconf gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-options scaled Regards, Guillermo
Re: [arch-general] Gnome 3.8 and desktop background
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:49:24 +0200, Magnus Therning wrote: Gnome 3.8 has now hit the official repos and it looks great. They only thing I can't seem to get to work is the desktop background. I try to set it to a nice image I have, but my desktop background remains a dull grey. The only place I see a change is in window overview mode. The only way to get the background on my ordinary desktop is to turn off Have file manager handle the desktop in Tweak Tool, but then I lose the icons from my desktop. Please tell me I'm not forced to chose the lesser of these evils and that there is something I've missed ;) /M You are using an old theme. Set up with the default theme and you'll get a background. Then try and find a theme that (a) works with 3.8 and (b) you like. -jh
Re: [arch-general] libxml2 out of date
On Tuesday 23 April 2013 09:05:33 Ross Lagerwall wrote: Hi, Is there a reason (other than lack of time) that libxml2 has not been updated from 2.8 to 2.9 (now 2.9.1)? Regards As far as I can tell, it breaks a lot of applications.
[arch-general] Integrating Virus Scanning for Packages Handled by Pacman
While building packages on the AUR, I was wondering that except for manual user intervention (by reading the code), I didn't have any other methods of knowing if a package had malware or viruses. Hence, I was wondering if virus scanning via clamav should be called before pacman installs packages. -- Mark E. Lee m...@markelee.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [arch-general] Integrating Virus Scanning for Packages Handled by Pacman
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Mark E. Lee m...@markelee.com wrote: While building packages on the AUR, I was wondering that except for manual user intervention (by reading the code), I didn't have any other methods of knowing if a package had malware or viruses. Hence, I was wondering if virus scanning via clamav should be called before pacman installs packages. -- Mark E. Lee m...@markelee.com The PKGBUILD itself is a bash script. If you're running them without reading the code and checking that the sources are from an upstream you trust, you're gonna have a bad time. There are plenty of packages in the AUR that touch outside of $pkgdir - but most seem to be beginner mistakes in good faith. ClamAV pretty much just detects very common win32 viruses, because it's used on mail servers to *reduce* the number of spread viruses. If you really feel like scanning the package contents after you've already trusted the PKGBUILD and build scripts, just don't use makepkg -i.
Re: [arch-general] libxml2 out of date
Hi On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Hussam Al-Tayeb hus...@visp.net.lb wrote: On Tuesday 23 April 2013 09:05:33 Ross Lagerwall wrote: Hi, Is there a reason (other than lack of time) that libxml2 has not been updated from 2.8 to 2.9 (now 2.9.1)? Regards As far as I can tell, it breaks a lot of applications. Do you have list of applications that are broken? Could it be fixed by recompiling those applications against 2.9.X? I see that upcoming ubuntu is using 2.9.0 http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=raringkeywords=libxml2 and I assume their applications work fine
Re: [arch-general] Integrating Virus Scanning for Packages Handled by Pacman
On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 06:56:56 PM Daniel Micay wrote: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Mark E. Lee m...@markelee.com wrote: While building packages on the AUR, I was wondering that except for manual user intervention (by reading the code), I didn't have any other methods of knowing if a package had malware or viruses. Hence, I was wondering if virus scanning via clamav should be called before pacman installs packages. -- Mark E. Lee m...@markelee.com The PKGBUILD itself is a bash script. If you're running them without reading the code and checking that the sources are from an upstream you trust, you're gonna have a bad time. There are plenty of packages in the AUR that touch outside of $pkgdir - but most seem to be beginner mistakes in good faith. ClamAV pretty much just detects very common win32 viruses, because it's used on mail servers to *reduce* the number of spread viruses. If you really feel like scanning the package contents after you've already trusted the PKGBUILD and build scripts, just don't use makepkg -i. I'd have to agree here, I don't feel much as if it is the duty of the package manager to check for viruses. Furthermore, reinforcing what Daniel said, ClamAV's primary function is to mitigate the spreading of Windows malware. While it would be nice to have some system to screen PKGBUILDs for malicious activity, it is just out of scope. [core], [extra], [multilib], and [community] are for the most part screened upon submission (You can't just throw a package right upstream and into [community] without having someone view it first, thus having an opportunity to spot bad scripts) and the AUR is fairly trustworthy in and of itself. It really is just a matter of trust. -- Regards, Tanner
Re: [arch-general] libxml2 out of date
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 04:05:34PM -0700, Anatol Pomozov wrote: As far as I can tell, it breaks a lot of applications. Do you have list of applications that are broken? Could it be fixed by recompiling those applications against 2.9.X? I see that upcoming ubuntu is using 2.9.0 http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=raringkeywords=libxml2 and I assume their applications work fine As does openSUSE 12.3: http://en.opensuse.org/Package_list and Fedora 18 and 19: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/libxml2.git/ Regards -- Ross Lagerwall
