Re: [arch-general] pacman mirrorlist update
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Francis Gerund wrote: > Okay, thanks guys. > > I will continue to do: > > sudo reflector --verbose --country 'United States' -l 200 -p http --sort > rate --save /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist > > frequently, and then update (very frequently) as usual, by: > > sudo pacmatic -Syyuv > > And I will delete etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist.pacnew, RSN. > > I don't know what the purpose of the pacman-mirrorlist -20150618-1 update > was. Maybe the idea was to encourage people to "freshen up" their > mirrorlist more often. > > But since that seems to require manually merging from > etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist.pacnew, > might that be counterproductive? I am not saying it's wrong - just a > thought. > There's no reason to force pacman to redownload up-to-date databases, in fact if you get a slow mirror there can be times when you end up with packages trying to downgrade. The only time I ever forced database sync is when I got a corrupted database due to WiFi hotspot splash screens. (They get downloaded because the datestamp is that second or thereabouts, certainly newer than the repo database. I *usually* remember to sign in with a curl script first thing.) As for the mirrorlist, not everyone uses reflector, and the ones who don't SHOULD get their mirrorlist updated, if not from reflector then through the package. Yes they will have to manually merge it in. That is why pacman warns them that a pacnew file was created -- as a general rule of thumb, people should look at those. pacman-mirrorlist gets semi-frequent updates. I ignore them, and occasionally delete them with pacdiffviewer if I feel like it -- because I know that is one of the handful of expected .pacnew files that are meaningless. -- Eli Schwartz
Re: [arch-general] pacman mirrorlist update
Okay, thanks guys. I will continue to do: sudo reflector --verbose --country 'United States' -l 200 -p http --sort rate --save /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist frequently, and then update (very frequently) as usual, by: sudo pacmatic -Syyuv And I will delete etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist.pacnew, RSN. I don't know what the purpose of the pacman-mirrorlist -20150618-1 update was. Maybe the idea was to encourage people to "freshen up" their mirrorlist more often. But since that seems to require manually merging from etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist.pacnew, might that be counterproductive? I am not saying it's wrong - just a thought. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Guus Snijders wrote: > Op 18 jun. 2015 17:34 schreef "Francis Gerund" : > > > > Hello. > > > > Just installed update pacman-mirrorlist -20150618-1, installed by pacman > as > > /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist.pacnew, and there is nothing exotic about my > > /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist. > [...] > > Should I again just: > > > > sudo reflector --verbose --country 'United States' -l 200 -p http --sort > > rate --save /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist > > > > and then just delete /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist.pacnew? > > You could re-rate your mirrors, but it's probably not necessary (assuming > your current mirrors are okay, of course). > You can safely delete the mirror list.new. > > Mvg, Guus >
Re: [arch-general] pacman mirrorlist update
Op 18 jun. 2015 17:34 schreef "Francis Gerund" : > > Hello. > > Just installed update pacman-mirrorlist -20150618-1, installed by pacman as > /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist.pacnew, and there is nothing exotic about my > /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist. [...] > Should I again just: > > sudo reflector --verbose --country 'United States' -l 200 -p http --sort > rate --save /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist > > and then just delete /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist.pacnew? You could re-rate your mirrors, but it's probably not necessary (assuming your current mirrors are okay, of course). You can safely delete the mirror list.new. Mvg, Guus
Re: [arch-general] Mutt's Missing Manual
On 18/06/15, Grady Martin wrote: > Hi, all. Mutt's the bee's knees, but a recent install has revealed that the > HTML manuals in /usr/share/doc/mutt have been replaced with an empty text > file, /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt. Can anyone confirm this? I performed > a fresh install, just to make sure I wasn't off my rocker. > > Might mutt's manuals not mean much to most men? The make command of the manual during build is failing and ignored. Confirmed by downloading ABS and building locally. Upstream problem. You can use manual entry: $ man 1 mutt --
Re: [arch-general] Mutt's Missing Manual
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:34:21 -0400, Grady Martin wrote: >Can anyone confirm this? Not for Mutt from extra, but I've got mutt-sidebar installed. $ pacman -Q mutt-sidebar mutt-sidebar 1.5.23-10 $ ls -hAl /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Mar 21 09:07 /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt
[arch-general] Mutt's Missing Manual
Hi, all. Mutt's the bee's knees, but a recent install has revealed that the HTML manuals in /usr/share/doc/mutt have been replaced with an empty text file, /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt. Can anyone confirm this? I performed a fresh install, just to make sure I wasn't off my rocker. Might mutt's manuals not mean much to most men?
Re: [arch-general] pacman mirrorlist update
Hi Francis, no idea. I tend to ignore mirrorlist updates and use the website generator from time to time, no real schedule: https://www.archlinux.org/mirrorlist/?country=all&protocol=https&ip_version=6&use_mirror_status=on The single mirror I'll then pick from that list offers a good compromise between its score and hop count/speed (not using any tools). But just look at what has changed and decide for yourself: https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/commit/trunk?h=packages/pacman-mirrorlist&id=5371b0c979e5a0c3f1934e24637cf87a43145f39 --byte pgpzT24K_ALNj.pgp Description: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP
[arch-general] pacman mirrorlist update
Hello. Just installed update pacman-mirrorlist -20150618-1, installed by pacman as /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist.pacnew, and there is nothing exotic about my /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist. I just normally update my mirrorlist by doing: sudo reflector --verbose --country 'United States' -l 200 -p http --sort rate --save /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist as suggested by the Arch wiki pacman article. Should I again just: sudo reflector --verbose --country 'United States' -l 200 -p http --sort rate --save /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist and then just delete /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist.pacnew?