Re: [arch-general] [OT] Favorite/best desktop in archlinux

[D C via arch-general]

No such thing, but I've used i3, awesome, gnome classic, gnome shell and
xfce but my favorite has been KDE Plasma.

On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 1:47 AM, David Demelier via arch-general <
arch-general@archlinux.org> wrote:

> Le 6 nov. 2016 11:12 PM, "Maykel Franco via arch-general" <
> arch-general@archlinux.org> a écrit :
> >
> > Hi, what the best desktop envieronment for archlinux? Only is the
> question.
> >
> > I like very much kde plasma but he used a lot of ram and sometimes it
> > is very heavy. Do you think?
>
> It's matter of taste. However, Arch provides vanilla packages, making best
> desktop support as we do not install/recommend/focus a default desktop like
> big end user distribution (e.g. GNOME for fedora, KDE for OpenSuSE).
>
> I personally use and love GNOME though.
>
> --
> David
>

Re: [arch-general] [OT] Favorite/best desktop in archlinux

[David Demelier via arch-general]

Le 6 nov. 2016 11:12 PM, "Maykel Franco via arch-general" <
arch-general@archlinux.org> a écrit :
>
> Hi, what the best desktop envieronment for archlinux? Only is the
question.
>
> I like very much kde plasma but he used a lot of ram and sometimes it
> is very heavy. Do you think?

It's matter of taste. However, Arch provides vanilla packages, making best
desktop support as we do not install/recommend/focus a default desktop like
big end user distribution (e.g. GNOME for fedora, KDE for OpenSuSE).

I personally use and love GNOME though.

-- 
David

Re: [arch-general] new /etc/nsswitch.conf

[Leonid Isaev]

On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 01:11:42AM +0100, Damjan Georgievski via arch-general 
wrote:
> there's a new /etc/nsswitch.conf file in filesystem-2016.11
> 
> Maybe someone would care to explain the changes? maybe even a news post?
> 
> https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/commit/trunk?h=packages/filesystem=f1cd9f7fb4cdf7617a1b875e14be212733f9c67a
> 

Didn't you participate in some of the bug reports addressed in 2016.11? Or are
you concerned about the 'compat' module? In any case, nsswitch.conf will be
installed as a .pacnew, so existing setups are not in danger...

L.

> 
> -- 
> damjan

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Re: [arch-general] WLAN

[Christian Klaue]

Just a guess: with my Lenovo initially I had a similar problem which
turned out to be a missing driver. Installing some 3rd party AUR
package it worked fine. Have you checked lspci? Kernel mods? Which
module is built in? Ever searched for it? 

With my HP I am having some bios problems (caused by HP - I will never
get any HP anymore). After each reboot I have to wait for approx 3
minutes before it is working. Meanwhile wifi is constantly turned on
and off again: there is no hardware button but bios is still reporting
it had been turned off and on. Check if there are bios reports on the
net. Usually you are not the first. The same error does not appear on
windows. unassambling efi and compiling it again threw something like
30 errors on the wifi module in efi...

ente

On Sun, 2016-11-06 at 22:56 +0100, Silvio Siefke wrote:
> Hello, 
> 
> i've installed Arch Linux today on Desktop (HP Elitebook 2540p) but 
> wifi work not. I become message "Wireless networks disabled by
> hardware
> switch"
> 
> Have someone an idea what can do? 
> 
> Thank you
> Silvio
> 
> [siefke@sisibox ~]$ rfkill list
> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
>   Soft blocked: no
>   Hard blocked: yes
> 2: hci0: Bluetooth
>   Soft blocked: no
>   Hard blocked: no
> 
> [siefke@sisibox ~]$ iwconfig 
> lono wireless extensions.
> 
> enp0s25   no wireless extensions.
> 
> wlo1  IEEE 802.11abgn  ESSID:off/any  
>   Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-
> Power=off   
>   Retry short limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
>   Power Management:off
> 
> [siefke@sisibox ~]$ dmesg | grep phy0
> [3.097608] ieee80211 phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'iwl-
> agn-rs'
> 
> [siefke@sisibox ~]$ dmesg | grep wlo1
> [3.306866] iwlwifi :43:00.0 wlo1: renamed from wlan0
> [3.775157] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlo1: link is not ready
> [4.078492] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlo1: link is not ready
> [4.385304] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlo1: link is not ready
> [4.720437] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlo1: link is not ready
> 
> [siefke@sisibox ~]$ dmesg | grep iwl
> [3.051266] iwlwifi :43:00.0: can't disable ASPM; OS doesn't
> have ASPM control
> [3.051662] iwlwifi :43:00.0: Direct firmware load for
> iwlwifi-6000-6.ucode failed with error -2
> [3.051681] iwlwifi :43:00.0: Direct firmware load for
> iwlwifi-6000-5.ucode failed with error -2
> [3.056639] iwlwifi :43:00.0: loaded firmware version
> 9.221.4.1 build 25532 op_mode iwldvm
> [3.075301] iwlwifi :43:00.0: CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEBUG disabled
> [3.075305] iwlwifi :43:00.0: CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEBUGFS disabled
> [3.075307] iwlwifi :43:00.0: CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEVICE_TRACING
> enabled
> [3.075309] iwlwifi :43:00.0: Detected Intel(R) Centrino(R)
> Advanced-N 6200 AGN, REV=0x74
> [3.075413] iwlwifi :43:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
> [3.097608] ieee80211 phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'iwl-
> agn-rs'
> [3.306866] iwlwifi :43:00.0 wlo1: renamed from wlan0
> [3.775329] iwlwifi :43:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
> [3.781845] iwlwifi :43:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
> [3.781936] iwlwifi :43:00.0: Radio type=0x1-0x3-0x1
> [3.993451] iwlwifi :43:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
> [3.68] iwlwifi :43:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
> [4.61] iwlwifi :43:00.0: Radio type=0x1-0x3-0x1
> [4.080224] iwlwifi :43:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
> [4.086756] iwlwifi :43:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
> [4.086859] iwlwifi :43:00.0: Radio type=0x1-0x3-0x1
> [4.300192] iwlwifi :43:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
> [4.306715] iwlwifi :43:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
> [4.306816] iwlwifi :43:00.0: Radio type=0x1-0x3-0x1
> [6.993231] iwlwifi :43:00.0: RF_KILL bit toggled to disable
> radio.
> [6.994137] iwlwifi :43:00.0: Not sending command - RF KILL
> 
> [siefke@sisibox ~]$ lspci | grep Network
> 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82577LM Gigabit
> Network Connection (rev 05)
> 43:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N
> 6200 (rev 35)

[arch-general] new /etc/nsswitch.conf

[Damjan Georgievski via arch-general]

there's a new /etc/nsswitch.conf file in filesystem-2016.11

Maybe someone would care to explain the changes? maybe even a news post?

https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/commit/trunk?h=packages/filesystem=f1cd9f7fb4cdf7617a1b875e14be212733f9c67a


-- 
damjan

Re: [arch-general] WLAN

[Silvio Siefke]

On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 23:07:36 +0100
Bruno Pagani  wrote:


> Maybe it’s a dumb question, but have you checked whether there is

This give never ... only dumb answer.

> actually any hardware switch (WiFi button, slider, switch) anywhere on
> the laptop?

Yes give but this is on. I have see in bios too, all is activated. 

> Else, another common issue I’ve seen from ages, is that disabling WiFi
> in Windows using a the WiFi hotkey (Fn/Function key) results in
> « hardware switch »-like disabling. Do you happen to have a dual boot
> with a Windows (or did you have a Windows prior to Arch install)? In the

No pure Linux. 



Thank you 
Silvio

Re: [arch-general] WLAN

[Silvio Siefke]

On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 23:15:56 +0100
Bruno Pagani  wrote:


> Is there any case where rfkill unblock/block handles the “Hard” case?

Im sorry, what mean it? I nothing have to do with rfkill normal, I install
the system and no wlan. I try to install iwlwifi driver but found nothing
for it and in forum of Arch Linux there was read about rfkill. First time
in my Linux Time I use. 

Before on Sabayon was working without problem. Maybe kernel is problem?

Thank you 
Silvio

Re: [arch-general] [OT] Favorite/best desktop in archlinux

[Lukas Rose]

>> On 06 Nov 2016, at 23:15, Bruno Pagani  wrote:
>> 
>> Le 06/11/2016 à 23:12, Maykel Franco via arch-general a écrit :
>> 
>> Hi, what the best desktop envieronment for archlinux? Only is the question.
>> 
>> I like very much kde plasma but he used a lot of ram and sometimes it
>> is very heavy. Do you think?
> 
> There is no such thing like “the best DE”. This is a matter of
> taste/desired features, dot. Most people I know running Arch use i3,
> personally I use KDE Plasma. ;)
> 
> Bruno

You have to find out yourself what suits your usage best. I love XFCE for its 
simplicity, lightweightness and Linux-ish style (category bases menus as 
typical for Linux, customizable panels with applets etc).

No matter what DE you use, docky is often a nice addition as a program launch 
menu.

Re: [arch-general] WLAN

[Silvio Siefke]

On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 23:03:15 +0100
Christian Rebischke  wrote:


> rfkill was already the right direction. You have to unblock the phy0
> device via rfkill. Try `rfkill unblock 0` This should work.

When I not blacklist the hp modul i become:

[sisibox siefke]# rfkill list
0: phy0: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: yes
1: hp-wifi: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no
2: hp-bluetooth: Bluetooth
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no
3: hci0: Bluetooth
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no

Maybe say more?

Thank you 
Silvio

Re: [arch-general] [OT] Favorite/best desktop in archlinux

[Bruno Pagani]

Le 06/11/2016 à 23:12, Maykel Franco via arch-general a écrit :

> Hi, what the best desktop envieronment for archlinux? Only is the question.
>
> I like very much kde plasma but he used a lot of ram and sometimes it
> is very heavy. Do you think?

There is no such thing like “the best DE”. This is a matter of
taste/desired features, dot. Most people I know running Arch use i3,
personally I use KDE Plasma. ;)

Bruno





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Re: [arch-general] WLAN

[Bruno Pagani]

Le 06/11/2016 à 23:03, Christian Rebischke a écrit :

> On Sun, Nov 06, 2016 at 10:56:15PM +0100, Silvio Siefke wrote:
>> Hello, 
>>
>> i've installed Arch Linux today on Desktop (HP Elitebook 2540p) but 
>> wifi work not. I become message "Wireless networks disabled by hardware
>> switch"
>>
>> Have someone an idea what can do? 
>>
>> Thank you
>> Silvio
>>
>> [siefke@sisibox ~]$ rfkill list
>> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
>>  Soft blocked: no
>>  Hard blocked: yes
>> 2: hci0: Bluetooth
>>  Soft blocked: no
>>  Hard blocked: no
>
> Hello Silvio,
> rfkill was already the right direction. You have to unblock the phy0
> device via rfkill. Try `rfkill unblock 0` This should work.
>
> cheers,
>
> chris

Is there any case where rfkill unblock/block handles the “Hard” case?

Bruno





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Re: [arch-general] WLAN

[Silvio Siefke]

On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 23:03:15 +0100
Christian Rebischke  wrote:


> rfkill was already the right direction. You have to unblock the phy0
> device via rfkill. Try `rfkill unblock 0` This should work.

this work not. I try it with blacklisting what found in forum, I try
with block and unblock. Nothing change. 

[sisibox siefke]# rfkill list
0: phy0: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: yes
2: hci0: Bluetooth
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no
[sisibox siefke]# rfkill unblock 0
[sisibox siefke]# rfkill list
0: phy0: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: yes
2: hci0: Bluetooth
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no

[sisibox siefke]# cat /etc/modprobe.d/hp.conf 
blacklist hp_wmi

I try since 6 hours I really not understand whereis problem. 

Thank you 
Silvio

[arch-general] [OT] Favorite/best desktop in archlinux

[Maykel Franco via arch-general]

Hi, what the best desktop envieronment for archlinux? Only is the question.

I like very much kde plasma but he used a lot of ram and sometimes it
is very heavy. Do you think?

Re: [arch-general] WLAN

[Bruno Pagani]

Hi,

Le 06/11/2016 à 22:56, Silvio Siefke a écrit :
> Hello, 
>
> i've installed Arch Linux today on Desktop (HP Elitebook 2540p) but 
> wifi work not. I become message "Wireless networks disabled by hardware
> switch"
>
> Have someone an idea what can do?
>
> Thank you
> Silvio

Maybe it’s a dumb question, but have you checked whether there is
actually any hardware switch (WiFi button, slider, switch) anywhere on
the laptop?

Else, another common issue I’ve seen from ages, is that disabling WiFi
in Windows using a the WiFi hotkey (Fn/Function key) results in
« hardware switch »-like disabling. Do you happen to have a dual boot
with a Windows (or did you have a Windows prior to Arch install)? In the
case you still have this Windows, can you boot it and check WiFi status
there? If you had a Windows but not anymore, I’m not sure what your best
option is…

Hope it helps you,
Bruno



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Re: [arch-general] WLAN

[Christian Rebischke]

On Sun, Nov 06, 2016 at 10:56:15PM +0100, Silvio Siefke wrote:
> Hello, 
> 
> i've installed Arch Linux today on Desktop (HP Elitebook 2540p) but 
> wifi work not. I become message "Wireless networks disabled by hardware
> switch"
> 
> Have someone an idea what can do? 
> 
> Thank you
> Silvio
> 
> [siefke@sisibox ~]$ rfkill list
> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
>   Soft blocked: no
>   Hard blocked: yes
> 2: hci0: Bluetooth
>   Soft blocked: no
>   Hard blocked: no


Hello Silvio,
rfkill was already the right direction. You have to unblock the phy0
device via rfkill. Try `rfkill unblock 0` This should work.

cheers,

chris


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[arch-general] WLAN

[Silvio Siefke]

Hello, 

i've installed Arch Linux today on Desktop (HP Elitebook 2540p) but 
wifi work not. I become message "Wireless networks disabled by hardware
switch"

Have someone an idea what can do? 

Thank you
Silvio

[siefke@sisibox ~]$ rfkill list
0: phy0: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: yes
2: hci0: Bluetooth
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no

[siefke@sisibox ~]$ iwconfig 
lono wireless extensions.

enp0s25   no wireless extensions.

wlo1  IEEE 802.11abgn  ESSID:off/any  
  Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-Power=off   
  Retry short limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
  Power Management:off

[siefke@sisibox ~]$ dmesg | grep phy0
[3.097608] ieee80211 phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'iwl-agn-rs'

[siefke@sisibox ~]$ dmesg | grep wlo1
[3.306866] iwlwifi :43:00.0 wlo1: renamed from wlan0
[3.775157] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlo1: link is not ready
[4.078492] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlo1: link is not ready
[4.385304] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlo1: link is not ready
[4.720437] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlo1: link is not ready

[siefke@sisibox ~]$ dmesg | grep iwl
[3.051266] iwlwifi :43:00.0: can't disable ASPM; OS doesn't have ASPM 
control
[3.051662] iwlwifi :43:00.0: Direct firmware load for 
iwlwifi-6000-6.ucode failed with error -2
[3.051681] iwlwifi :43:00.0: Direct firmware load for 
iwlwifi-6000-5.ucode failed with error -2
[3.056639] iwlwifi :43:00.0: loaded firmware version 9.221.4.1 build 
25532 op_mode iwldvm
[3.075301] iwlwifi :43:00.0: CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEBUG disabled
[3.075305] iwlwifi :43:00.0: CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEBUGFS disabled
[3.075307] iwlwifi :43:00.0: CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEVICE_TRACING enabled
[3.075309] iwlwifi :43:00.0: Detected Intel(R) Centrino(R) Advanced-N 
6200 AGN, REV=0x74
[3.075413] iwlwifi :43:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
[3.097608] ieee80211 phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'iwl-agn-rs'
[3.306866] iwlwifi :43:00.0 wlo1: renamed from wlan0
[3.775329] iwlwifi :43:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
[3.781845] iwlwifi :43:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
[3.781936] iwlwifi :43:00.0: Radio type=0x1-0x3-0x1
[3.993451] iwlwifi :43:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
[3.68] iwlwifi :43:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
[4.61] iwlwifi :43:00.0: Radio type=0x1-0x3-0x1
[4.080224] iwlwifi :43:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
[4.086756] iwlwifi :43:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
[4.086859] iwlwifi :43:00.0: Radio type=0x1-0x3-0x1
[4.300192] iwlwifi :43:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
[4.306715] iwlwifi :43:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
[4.306816] iwlwifi :43:00.0: Radio type=0x1-0x3-0x1
[6.993231] iwlwifi :43:00.0: RF_KILL bit toggled to disable radio.
[6.994137] iwlwifi :43:00.0: Not sending command - RF KILL

[siefke@sisibox ~]$ lspci | grep Network
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82577LM Gigabit Network 
Connection (rev 05)
43:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6200 (rev 35)