Re: [arch-general] Why there is no NetworkManager in ArchISO

[Martin Kühne via arch-general]

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 8:30 AM, Junayeed Ahnaf via arch-general
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Why is there no NetworkManager in ArchISO? Isn't it widely accepted as
> the go to method of connecting to internet in Linux? Is there any reason
> for it not to be default?
>


Network manager actually limits users in that, when started, it plugs
its own configuration atop of whatever the user is doing manually.
Some features you might need are not supported like setting up a
bridge, too. Additionally, the wiki [0] lists quite a list of other
problems you might have from using it, so... what was the question?
Why the devs choose not to include it in the default distribution?

Read up on systemd-networkd [1], and if you need wifi, wpa_supplicant
[2], and tell us why you still think you want to force other people to
use a suboptimal solution so you don't have to figure out how simply
text based, system-wide configuration by the root user is better for
you... Did we not yet go into how nm needs to figure out in what ways
a user is allowed to configure a system's network and therefore
uses... policikit? Eww.

cheers!
mar77i

[0] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager
[1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd-networkd
[2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/WPA_supplicant

Re: [arch-general] Why there is no NetworkManager in ArchISO

[Robert Wong via arch-general]

It's not *widely* accepted but just integrated with
GNOME. Though NetworkManager makes the
configuration of network an easier work, especially
when it comes to desktop use, some features like
network binding and monitor mode will be made
unavailable.

When it comes to ArchISO, wired network will be set up
automatically. If you use wireless network, tools like
wifi-menu and netctl are available, which has made
things much more easier. I'd suggest you read the
network configuration page on ArchWiki, which may
help you understand network configuration on Linux-
based operation systems better.



RW

 Original Message 
Subject: [arch-general] Why there is no NetworkManager in ArchISO
From: Junayeed Ahnaf via arch-general
To: arch-general@archlinux.org
CC: Junayeed Ahnaf

Hello,

Why is there no NetworkManager in ArchISO? Isn't it widely accepted as
the go to method of connecting to internet in Linux? Is there any reason
for it not to be default?

Thanks

J

[arch-general] Why there is no NetworkManager in ArchISO

[Junayeed Ahnaf via arch-general]

Hello,

Why is there no NetworkManager in ArchISO? Isn't it widely accepted as 
the go to method of connecting to internet in Linux? Is there any reason 
for it not to be default?

Thanks

J