Re: [arch-general] Can I build Arch Linux from Scratch?

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 01:33:20 +, wrote:
>Can I build Arch Linux from Scratch like Linux from Scratch?
>
>Please advise.

Hi,

you are probably the only one to know, if you could or could not achieve
the same regarding your needs by either using LFS or Arch Linux.

At the right side of the homepage is the link to the Wiki
  (https://wiki.archlinux.org/
   maybe start with the Arch Wiki's FAQ
   https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Frequently_asked_questions , the
   FAQ provide a lot of links. For example a link to
   https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_compared_to_other_distributions
   that links to https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Build_System)
and the right side of the homepage also contains a link to the
Installation Guide(https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_guide)
wich also links to the FAQ.

Regards,
Ralf

Re: [arch-general] Kernel source URL change

[Eli Schwartz via arch-general]

On 08/07/2018 10:31 PM, W B via arch-general wrote:
> It isn't an order.
> 
> Can you tell us why this change was required, please?

Because heftig decided it was easier *for him* to do it this way.

Because downloading 100 MB for every single patchlevel release quickly
builds up to just as much as a full git clone.

Can you tell us why you believe the move to git was "a solution in
search of a problem"?
Can you tell us why you replied to this list with the message that there
are full tarballs, as though you think heftig did not know this and
reject this already? Who are you trying to convince here?

-- 
Eli Schwartz
Bug Wrangler and Trusted User



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Re: [arch-general] Kernel source URL change

[Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general]

Em agosto 7, 2018 23:31 W B via arch-general escreveu:

It isn't an order.

Can you tell us why this change was required, please?



Have you read the original post to the list? Specially this [0]?

Those tar files you just linked are not signed by Linus anymore, they are signed
instead by Greg Kroah-Hartman. You would have known this if you bothered to 
actually
download them and check the signature.

Another reason for this move is to apply our patches as commits. You can use 
any other
kernel if you want.

[0] https://www.kernel.org/minor-changes-to-tarball-release-format.html

Cheers,
Giancarlo Razzolini


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Re: [arch-general] Kernel source URL change

[W B via arch-general]

It isn't an order.

Can you tell us why this change was required, please?

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On August 8, 2018 3:11 AM, Eli Schwartz via arch-general 
 wrote:

> On 08/07/2018 07:31 PM, W B via arch-general wrote:
>
> > Now we know that the change is a solution in search of a problem.
> > The fact that they won't sign the patch tarballs anymore isn't a problem.
> > All that heftig must do, is to make it download the complete tarball and 
> > its signature.
> > Here you go:
> > https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/linux-4.17.13.tar.xz
> > https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/linux-4.17.13.tar.sign
>
> We do not listen to your orders.
>
> ---
>
> Eli Schwartz
> Bug Wrangler and Trusted User

[arch-general] Can I build Arch Linux from Scratch?

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Good morning from Singapore,


Can I build Arch Linux from Scratch like Linux from Scratch?


Please advise.


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Re: [arch-general] Kernel source URL change

[Eli Schwartz via arch-general]

On 08/07/2018 07:31 PM, W B via arch-general wrote:
> Now we know that the change is a solution in search of a problem.
> 
> The fact that they won't sign the patch tarballs anymore isn't a problem.
> 
> All that heftig must do, is to make it download the complete tarball and its 
> signature.
> 
> Here you go:
> https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/linux-4.17.13.tar.xz
> https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/linux-4.17.13.tar.sign

We do not listen to your orders.

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Re: [arch-general] Kernel source URL change

[W B via arch-general]

Now we know that the change is a solution in search of a problem.

The fact that they won't sign the patch tarballs anymore isn't a problem.

All that heftig must do, is to make it download the complete tarball and its 
signature.

Here you go:
https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/linux-4.17.13.tar.xz
https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/linux-4.17.13.tar.sign

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On August 7, 2018 8:31 AM, Konstantin Shalygin via arch-general 
 wrote:

> > Also now to build the package locally you download the whole repository
> > (~2 Gb compared to the ~110 Mb previously).
>
> Oh...
>
> Cloning into bare repository '/tmp/4.17-arch/archlinux-linux'...
> remote: Counting objects: 6135977, done.
> remote: Compressing objects: 100% (1099/1099), done.
> remote: Total 6135977 (delta 984), reused 385 (delta 385), pack-reused
> 6134493
> Receiving objects: 100% (6135977/6135977), 2.07 GiB | 1.03 MiB/s, done.
> Resolving deltas: 100% (5111928/5111928), done.
>
> 33 minutes to fetch kernel.
>
> If this changeset is good for arch infrastructure builds, may be tar.xz
> will be also provided, via github releases for example.
>
> k

Re: [arch-general] Grub-efi install issue

[Matthew Dyer via arch-general]

Aaa,  Thanks.  I managed to get it installed and configured, but while 
the system booted I had no speech.  I saw another thread on this and 
someone thought it was an orca problem, but not sure as this was a basic 
arch system.  I did havew antergoes installed to another vm and also had 
no speech so could be releated.   Thanks again.  I will mess with this a 
bit more as it seems the efi partition needs to be mount twice onece 
before installing all packages and then mounted to the installed system 
while in arch-chroot.



Matthew




On 08/06/2018 03:34 PM, Morgan Adamiec via arch-general wrote:

On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 at 20:25, Matthew Dyer via arch-general
 wrote:

Hi all,


I am trying to install arch to a efi system and got as far as the
configure the packages but grub install is whare I am stuck. First off,
in the wiki it says to mount the efi partition, but it doesn't say whare
to mount it to.  Secondly, I run the following to install grub-install
--target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/dev/sda1 --bootloader-id=GRUB and
get the following error. something about unable to get the udev.  What
am I missing?  Would something rong?  The wiki artical s a bit confusing.


Thanks.

The EFI partition is usually mounted to /boot on arch systems,
although /boot/efi is another common place.

The grub wiki page says "substitute esp with its mount point".
/dev/sda1 is the device, not the mount point.