Re: [arch-general] Why not create a new repo specified for games ?
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 12:40, Matej Ľach matej.l...@gmail.com wrote: I support this idea. Keep most games in AUR and the more popular ones can have their own repo [games] on a separate server. This server could be community financed using donations and if not enough interest will be raised for new repo, all these huge games can be moved to AUR and the smaller ones can stay in [community]. That's my view at it. Having another repo for large packages is not useful. The benefit of the old arch-games project was just that we compiled and hosted things that weren't already in the repo.
Re: [arch-general] pacman -Sl
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:53, Karol Blazewicz karol.blazew...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/9/3 Jérôme M. Berger jeber...@free.fr: Joker-jar wrote: Hello! I just made `pacman -Ql ...` analogue for don't installed packages. Enjoy ;) http://paste.org.ru/?h5cg9y You mean like “pkgfile -l” ? Jerome -- mailto:jeber...@free.fr http://jeberger.free.fr Jabber: jeber...@jabber.fr nosr is another package that does that (and more) https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=51938 They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...
Re: [arch-general] Why are install functions not in PKGBUILD?
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 16:27, Matthew Monaco dgbale...@verizon.net wrote: It seems like the install functions pre/post_install/upgrade/remove could be defined right in the PKGBUILD. Any particular reason why this isn't or cannot be so? This has come up on the ML before. It's because the PKGBUILD file is not installed to the system, and the system shouldn't have to know or care about the build process, only the install and usage.
Re: [arch-general] a python rewrite of pkgfile
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 10:54, solsTiCe d'Hiver solstice.dhi...@gmail.com wrote: hi. I started in August a rewrite in python of pkgfile from pkgtools package. Wow, was it really way back in August? Wow... It's been a really busy year for me. I'll try to get that release out today, since I have time. I've been sitting on it way too long. Thanks for the kick in the ass on it :P
Re: [arch-general] a python rewrite of pkgfile
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 11:26, Thomas Dziedzic gos...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe you could provide the PKGBUILD in the AUR? I'll have the package pushed to community by the end of the day, so it shouldn't be needed.
[arch-general] Pkgtools v22
Hi All, I'm happy to announce that after a far-too-long wait, the latest version of pkgtools is released! This version is a complete rewrite from the ground up. The slow parts have been rewritten in C for a huge speed increase, and the body has been rewritten in python. Many thanks for brain0 and solstice for doing most of the hard work in making this release happen. It should be hitting the mirrors today, and pkgtools-git from AUR is ready if you just can't wait. Enjoy!
Re: [arch-general] Pkgtools v22
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 16:06, Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.be wrote: On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:29:59 -0500 Daenyth Blank daenyth+a...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm happy to announce that after a far-too-long wait, the latest version of pkgtools is released! This version is a complete rewrite from the ground up. The slow parts have been rewritten in C for a huge speed increase, and the body has been rewritten in python. Many thanks for brain0 and solstice for doing most of the hard work in making this release happen. It should be hitting the mirrors today, and pkgtools-git from AUR is ready if you just can't wait. Enjoy! just installed pkgtools-22-1 $ pkgfile awesome Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/pkgfile, line 434, in module main() File /usr/bin/pkgfile, line 424, in main query_pkg(args[0], options) File /usr/bin/pkgfile, line 331, in query_pkg del repo_list[repo_list.index(local_db)] ValueError: '/var/cache/pkgtools/lists/local.files.tar.gz' is not in list ? Dieter It's a bug that's fixed in -git. If you run --update it will clear up
Re: [arch-general] Python 3 Rationale?
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:16, Armando M. Baratti ambaratti.lis...@gmail.com wrote: Em 20-10-2010 05:24, Stefano Z. escreveu: anyone know if reportlab does work with python3 ? No, reportlab doesn't work with python3. Neither Django, nor Twisted. As well the modules below are incompatible with python3 (to mention a few): - PyGTK2 - Pyjamas - Kiwi - Beaker - Cheetah - CherryPy - nose - Paste - numpy - PyChecker - pycrypto - egenix utilities (used by many db connectors) - psycopg - couchdbkit - Elixir - MySQL-python - PyMySQL - PyDB2 And many, many more. It'll be a long time for many of these modules be converted (rewritten in some cases) to python3. It was a smart move from the standpoint of package management, but from the point of view of a developer... Armando You do realize that python 2 is not being taken away, right?
Re: [arch-general] Python 3 Rationale?
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 20:36, Max Countryman m...@me.com wrote: It seems that while most (all?) distributions include a /usr/bin/python3 link to their python3.xbinary, none do the same thing for python2.x. Either create your own symlink in your path for those distros or even better file a bug with them asking for such a symlink. They are going to need one in the future… I wanted to also clarify something or ask if someone could possibly clarify for me: where has it been established that Python 3 will become the replacement for the default Python binary? Is there a possibility that the standard convention might become python and python3 as binaries, where python is 2.7.x and python3 is the latest release of 3? I'm sure that this has already been discussed elsewhere or within the Python community itself, so if anyone could just point me in the direction I'd really appreciate it. Thank you! http://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3 At the time of writing (July 4, 2010), the final 2.7 release is out, with a statement of extended support for this end-of-life release. The 2.x branch will see no new major releases after that. 3.x is under active and continued development, with 3.1 already available and 3.2 due for release around the turn of the year. 3.x is the newest branch of Python and the intended future of the language.
Re: [arch-general] Question about arch packages
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:19, Christian christia...@runbox.com wrote: Hi, In the PKBUILD script there is some times install followed by a couple of numbers, what are they for? Many thanks, Christian Can you be more specific?
Re: [arch-general] Te agregué como amigo en Facebook
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 16:39, Florian Pritz bluew...@server-speed.net wrote:
On 27.09.2010 22:36, uli.armbrus...@googlemail.com wrote:
* Mauro Santos registo.maill...@gmail.com [27.09.2010 22:34]:
Is it just me or does this look like spam?
--
Mauro Santos
Of course this is spam. Even mentioning Facebook in the subject is more than
obvious.
The mail was really sent by facebook. (Just read the Recieved headers)
Maybe he used the same password for his facebook and gmail account and
they just wrote to everyone in his contact list. I heard they do that
automatically.
--
Florian Pritz -- {flo,bluewi...@server-speed.net
Facebook has a feature where you can give it access to your email
account and it will send an invite to every address in your address
book.
Re: [arch-general] Any special reason for /etc/shadow.pacnew, or just normal pacman behavior.
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 16:02, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: Guys, I always diff any new .pacnew files when they are created during an update. See man pacman, under HANDLING CONFIG FILES. It explains the behavior in detail.
Re: [arch-general] makepkg patch - generate .SRCINFO file when running --source
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 13:36, Muhammed Uluyol uluy...@gmail.com wrote: Why not make new arrays? i686depends, x86_64depends, i686source, etc. Please don't... Also, please bottom post on this list.
Re: [arch-general] [PATCH 04/48] Use [[ ]] instead of [ ] for conditional checking when running in bash.
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 17:56, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Am 30.06.2010 23:47, schrieb Victor Lowther: It is worth 10 - 30% speedup whenever you want to compare something. Where do you get this from? I always used [ ], and I found it sufficient. Why is [[ ]] faster? -if [ $USECOLOR = YES -o $USECOLOR = yes ]; then +if [[ $USECOLOR = YES || $USECOLOR = yes ]]; then Why do you get rid of the quoting here? Quoting is nice. Quoting is not needed in [[ and it makes the code uglier.
Re: [arch-general] [PATCH 35/48] find has a builtin delete action. Use it instead of exec'ing rm.
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 18:32, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Am 30.06.2010 23:58, schrieb Daenyth Blank: I don't think this is portable though. Portability is not an issue. The beauty about this is that we can simply assume we have GNU tools and we do use Linux ... because that is what Arch is based on. Oh duh, I was thinking of makepkg et al which we want to be portable. Carry on
Re: [arch-general] arch-general Digest, Vol 68, Issue 76
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 06:14, je...@vdwaa.nl wrote: Message: 10 Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 03:40:04 -0400 From: Caleb Cushing xenoterrac...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arch-general] VLC and Wine have been out-of-date too long. To: a...@ape3000.com, General Discussion about Arch Linux arch-general@archlinux.org Message-ID: aanlktimwf9eh0uwxuvtesgw9qwod1j7wlmfagrjlt...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Lauri Niskanen a...@ape3000.com wrote: VLC 1.1.0 was released about a week ago and Wine 1.2-rc1 was released on 2010-05-21. Now there is Wine 1.2-rc5. let's please NOT take a policy of releasing 'release candidates' as stable to our users, RC's belong on AUR. also a week? that's it? get some patience, you want to complain... perl 5.12 is going on 6 months fast (and yes I am continuing to complain about that). Considering that the wine RC's also have some major regression issue's, i fully agree with Caleb. If you really want wine rc, grab it from the arch-games repo [arch-games] Server = http://repo.exigen.org/arch/games/$ARCH/ Although it's still -rc4 there. And if you really don't like it if your not full bleeding, use testing or abs :) This is bin32-wine there.
Re: [arch-general] This is the arch-general list - Was Burning From Command Line
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 06:56, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote: [it is rude not to change subject lines when going off-topic...] On 27/05/10 20:13, Joerg Schilling wrote: Blah, blah, blah paraphrased Seriously, stop it. 50+ messages that are entirely off-topic for the original question. I agree. Joerg, you waste the time of every reader of this list. I've never muted as many threads as I have when you start acting like a spoiled child on these lists. It's been discussed to death, please go elsewhere.
Re: [arch-general] Burning From Command Line
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 22:49, Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com wrote: What ? Is that really true ?!?!? State some link where it is officially declared by the developers. Joerg is the author of the software he recommends, so not exactly unbiased...
Re: [arch-general] can you only test certain packages?
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 18:05, Jeroen Op 't Eynde jer...@xprsyrslf.be wrote: There is a number 3. 3. Add [testing] and do a pacman -Sy package-you-like. It will install the latest package from testing and its dependencies. Remove [testing] again and you can go on using your non-testing system. I don't know if it is fail-proof but it worked for me with xorg-server (to 1.8). When I'm doing a pacman -Syu it just says that the packages installed are newer and therefore doesn't update these certain packages. This will only work if the package uses versioned depends, which is not always the case.
Re: [arch-general] BASH no longer does 'for i in $(ls); do ls $i; done'??
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 16:17, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: Guys, I'm usually quite good at one-liners, but my simple ones no longer work in Arch. Same cli works fine in suse. What have I messed up? To wit: In short, you're doing it wrong. http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs
Re: [arch-general] How to take screenshot of ring switcher ?
Govindarajanli...@itech7.comwrote: I have enabled compiz and some effects. Anybody knows how to take screenshot of the Ring Switcher ? Bind a key to scrot with the right settings, or just call it with a delay
Re: [arch-general] [xmonad] Screenshot of all workspaces?
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 16:31, Nick Stepa hired...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all! I use xmonad and want to make screenshot of all workspaces at once. How can I do it? Plz don`t say: For each workspace - switch to it and use scrot (= For each workspace, switch to it and use import :)
Re: [arch-general] How to take screenshot of ring switcher ?
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 15:09, Gaetan Bisson r...@vesath.org wrote: What if we're elitist and don't want newbies like you switching to Linux and polluting the signal-to-noise ratio of our beloved mailing-lists with useless, off-topic questions? -- Gaetan The ml is not the place for you to be a jackass. Take it elsewhere
Re: [arch-general] Package signing
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 13:18, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto denisfalqu...@gmail.com wrote: I'm thinking about a two way signing process. The dev signs the package and send it to the server. The server would have a script or a cron job to verify if the signature is valid and is from someone trusted [1]. If so, the original signature is discarded and a new one is made, with an official Arch key. This is pretty sensible, but I think that the second step would preclude having a passphrase on the key, as it would have to be called from a script. Another way to do it might be to have the upload verified by sender key and then have the uploader sign the repo db (during the db-update step probably?). We'd have to have a keyring, but with this method even if the server is compromised the db is safe from tampering, since the keyring is signed by the highest-trust key (phrak, presumably), and that lists the keys which are allowed to sign the repo itself, so there's no way to insert untrusted keys into the keyring or repo. Perhaps the keyring package could require double-signing to also prevent an attack where phrak gets hacked again and loses his key :)
Re: [arch-general] Package signing
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 14:32, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto denisfalqu...@gmail.com wrote: This could also cause problems when downloading some package that depends on a public key that was not downloaded yet. Adding the keyring to the same rule that prompts you to upgrade pacman before anything else might make sense here.
Re: [arch-general] keyboard not working in Xorg after package updates
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 23:05, David Rosenstrauch dar...@darose.net wrote: * Bizarrely enough, *some* of the keys on the keyboard actually work (such as / * - + on the numeric keypad). * I'm getting a load of errors in the slim.log file that look like this: expected keysym, got XF86_Switch_VT_1 line 8 of xfree86 Is numlock on? Seems like it thinks you have some meta keys pressed
Re: [arch-general] Debootstrap for Arch?
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 19:31, Brendan Long kori...@gmail.com wrote: Is there anything similar to debootstrap for Arch? Debootstrap basically a command where you give it some options and point it to a partition and it installs Debian (or a Debian-based distro) onto it. I bet you can smash AIF in the right way to get that to happen. Maybe you should write such a thing :)
Re: [arch-general] Debootstrap for Arch?
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 21:17, Piyush P Kurur ppk wrote: You can install packages under a particular directroy using the command pacman -S pkgname -r /gateway/to/hell So using that you can actually build a chrooted environment and work your way up. Duh, now why didn't I think of that? There's a wiki page for how to install arch inside a chroot, use that.
Re: [arch-general] rankmirrors with arch-games
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 15:18, Daenyth Blank daenyth+a...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 14:20, Dan McGee dpmc...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not super thrilled about this regression. Either way, I think we should probably add an option to the scripts to use a designated file as the target for rankmirrors testing; this way you could specify a DB filename or any other file as the target to test against. -Dan I have something along those lines; sending it out shortly For some reason I can't get git send-email to work through gmail while keeping my +Arch intact, so mailman keeps dropping my patch emails since it's sent as daenyth@ rather than daenyth+arch@ (my subscribed name). Could a list moderator put those through?
Re: [arch-general] rankmirrors with arch-games
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 13:52, Dan McGee dpmc...@gmail.com wrote: Where is the mirrorlist so I can try this? What version of rankmirrors are you using? You left out quite a few helpful details that might lead to people helping out that don't have time to try and track all these things down on their own. -Dan I'm using the version of rankmirrors from pacman 3.3.3-1. The mirrorlist is at http://repo.archlinux-gaming.org/i686/archgames-mirrorlist-20100121-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz (source at http://github.com/Stythys/arch-games/tree/master/packages/archgames-mirrorlist/ )
Re: [arch-general] rankmirrors with arch-games
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 14:20, Dan McGee dpmc...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not super thrilled about this regression. Either way, I think we should probably add an option to the scripts to use a designated file as the target for rankmirrors testing; this way you could specify a DB filename or any other file as the target to test against. -Dan I have something along those lines; sending it out shortly
Re: [arch-general] rankmirrors with arch-games
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 00:38, Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com wrote: Observe the ping using ping -c 100. If there is some loss in packets, you need to consult your ISP unless you're using wireless transmission. 0% packet loss, and it's not just me, it's everyone who uses rankmirrors on our mirrorlist, and it's always the same results.
Re: [arch-general] Dedicated Arch servers
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 12:58, Gaurish Sharma cont...@gaurishsharma.com wrote: On Thursday 18 Mar 2010 10:04:58 pm Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: Hi, Do you know some dedicated server / VPS provider (unmanaged), who supports Arch Linux, with good service and reasonable rates ? Hi, you the the providers which host archlinux. Maybe we should put this on the wiki. I've seen this question come up a few times.
[arch-general] rankmirrors with arch-games
For some reason rankmirrors seems to really hate the arch-games mirrorlist. I don't know whether it's a bug or whether there's some sort of server misconfiguration. [r...@muspelheimr pacman.d]# rankmirrors -t archgames-mirrorlist Querying servers, this may take some time... * * * * Servers sorted by time (seconds): http://pseudoform.org/arch-games/games/i686 #(Nürnberg, Germany. Maintainer: svenstaro) : 1.01 http://repo.exigen.org/arch/games/i686 #(Düsseldorf, Germany. Maintainer: s4msung) : unreachable http://repo.archlinux-gaming.org/i686 #(Toronto, Canada. Primary mirror) : unreachable ftp://mirror.selfnet.de/arch-games/i686 #(Stuttgart, Germany. Maintainer: hrist) : unreachable All of the above servers respond to ping and their repos can be browsed manually and synced with using pacman.
Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux security is still poor....
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 13:24, Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com wrote: Let this thread not be just another Will be nice one. Pacman devs, please start implementing these package verification things. And you're paying them how much that allows you to tell them what to work on? Seriously, patches welcome.
Re: [arch-general] Package signing (was: Arch Linux security is still poor)
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 20:06, Linas linas...@ymail.com wrote: I had already this email draft in my head, but Ananda 'Arch Linux security is still poor' thread, on which the point was also brought up, moved me to really write it. There's a bug on the tracker about this, please contribute there. There's no point in bringing it up here for the inf++th time.
Re: [arch-general] twm: cannot open fontset
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 09:14, Thanos Zygouris thanos.zygou...@gmail.com wrote: But when i changed my $LANG from en_US.utf8 to C, twm worked! Is en_US.utf8 uncommented in locale.gen and have you rebuilt locales?
Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux security is still poor....
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 17:43, Ananda Samaddar ana...@samaddar.co.uk wrote: Would there be any enthusiasm for a dedicated security team? This has been proposed multiple times, but oddly enough no one who has proposed it has ever taken any steps to make it happen...
Re: [arch-general] what is the procedure when your find an out-of-date package in AUR?
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:50, Burlynn Corlew Jr burl...@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes pasting the pkgbuild in comments is the only solution, especially with lazy maintainers. If a maintainer does not respond to email in a week or so, mail aur-general and the TUs will orphan the package so someone else can maintain it.
Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 16:57, Hussam Al-Tayeb ht990...@gmail.com wrote: You should consider moving to bugzilla. -1. I've used bugzilla, and the interface is absolutely horrible. Flyspray is much much better.
Re: [arch-general] Howto handle poppler conflict with poppler-qt3
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:34, Laurie Clark-Michalek bluepepp...@archlinux.us wrote: Good for you :) I'm satisfied with my KDE 4.4, and though I realise not everyone can be, I shan't be loosing too much sleep over it :) FUD and Unsubstantiated claims however... Well they're a worry :) I really have to agree here. The older 4.x releases were not as well-done, but I use kde 4.4 on my work laptop and it's fantastic.
Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 16:54, clemens fischer ino-n...@spotteswoode.dnsalias.org wrote: I always use pacman -Rs. It's a wrapper script, I normally don't use a bare pacman, so there's not even neglect at play. That's the problem. You want to add -c. -s removes in one direction, -c removes in the other.
Re: [arch-general] pacman search help needed: howto find package that provides html2ps?
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 19:13, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: Guys, I have made friends with pacman in most areas, but one are I still don't know is How to I find the uninstalled package that will provide xxx? pacman -Ss must just search package names and not the contents. I need to find html2ps for hylafax. Can pacman do this, or do I search abs/aur for this type of request? pkgfile from pkgtools does this.
Re: [arch-general] pacman search help needed: howto find package that provides html2ps?
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 21:40, Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227) ghost1...@archlinux.us wrote: On 03/08/10 at 08:36pm, David C. Rankin wrote: I'll check it out. Before I got your message, I was able to find it in AUR with a search. If pkgfile is a cli tool, it's just what I'm looking for. It is a cli tool, and it's wonderfully helpful. :P -- One thing it won't do is AUR though; there's no list of files (nor is such a thing at all possible)
Re: [arch-general] Amavisd-new Only in AUR?
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:49, Carlos Mennens carlosw...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have any idea what is holding this software back from getting votes / moved into the 'Community? Is it considered buggy or just not widely used enough in the Arch community? Most likely there hasn't been a TU interested in taking it. Virus scanners aren't much use on a system without an smtpd, and clam tends to be popular there. It also only has had 18 votes over the past 5 years, so it's pretty clearly not very popular...
Re: [arch-general] can't register for Arch forums
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 20:27, Baho Utot baho-u...@columbus.rr.com wrote: Where do I start? I can't read the guide all I see is some red and green lines over some text. Is some one trying to obfuscate this process? Now tell the truth here.. Did your kids get their crayons out again? Can someone make sure this gets in the newsletter next month? :D
Re: [arch-general] Tired of being asked for a password for su? Arch has the solution
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 17:58, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: It worries me to think about the possible security implications, but the lazy side of me sure does like the convenience :p It's also a bigger issue if you use ssh or a vpn where you could potentially be getting connections from other places.
Re: [arch-general] Microsoft keyboard and unworking keys
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 16:34, Andre Ramaciotti andre.ramacio...@gmail.com wrote: as in they don't show any keycode on 'xev' or 'showkey'. It sounds like those keys are broken. It should be sending something. Is it old?
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Let's agree on a common coding style
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 15:12, Evangelos Foutras foutre...@gmail.com wrote:
For example, in a PKGBUILD I would write ${pkgname}_$pkgver, because _ can
be part of a variable name, but I'd much rather prefer to use
$pkgname-$pkgver, since hyphens are not allowed in variable names.
Less typing, less ugliness. :)
This is the way I've always done it and it's much nicer to read. Same
for quoting, use only when needed.
Re: [arch-general] Nuking a MySQL Install
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 20:50, gt codere...@gmail.com wrote: Did you try the --debug switch for pacman. See what information it shows. You want pacman -Rscn to nuke it. You'll have to manually remove the databases, pacman isn't going to touch your data, nor should it.
Re: [arch-general] pacman message: too much happens:: ...
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 18:07, clemens fischer
ino-n...@spotteswoode.dnsalias.org wrote:
Sorry. It's an fcrontab entry:
{ pacman --noprogressbar -Sy pacman --noprogressbar -Qu || :; } 21
clemens
Try it with --debug for more info?
Re: [arch-general] kde44beta - Arch needs to disable powerdevil suspend default - very hard shutdown...
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 13:02, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: [stuff] The bug tracker is probably a more appropriate place for all this.
Re: [arch-general] Multiple Kernels
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 09:59, ludovic coues cou...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/2/1 Emmanuel Benisty benist...@gmail.com lts is not for everyday desktop usage. By the way, there should be a way to get older with something like that pacman -S kernel26-2.6.32.6-1 Arch is a rolling release distro. The repo only keeps one version of any given package at a time. Running pacman -S pkgname will get that version.
Re: [arch-general] Multiple Kernels
2010/2/1 Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com: Agreed. But recently a USB problem (possibly a bug) was being discussed heavily on the forums. What about it ? Didn't the developers test the kernel properly before releasing it to the community ? They do test the kernel, but you can't possibly expect them to stop updates for a bug that probably never came up during testing. They can't test every possible hardware combination, we just don't have the resources or manpower for that. If you want to help out in the process, use of the testing repo (and bug tracker and arch-dev-public mailing lists) is encouraged.
Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux and security - it needs some work
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 15:17, Carlos Williams carlosw...@gmail.com wrote: How does Arch Linux far behind in security as compared to Debian. Perhaps I caught this conversation late but I would like to know what makes Debian better in aspects of security -vs- Arch? Can anyone please explain? Mainly package signing I think
Re: [arch-general] Setting global environment variable
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 17:11, Ty John ty...@eye-of-odin.com wrote: Basically, I want to set and unset the variable when I connect and disconnect the VPN. The best way is probably to have a set of aliases in your bashrc that run it and set the variables. Scripts and functions cannpt modify the calling environment.
Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux and security - it needs some work
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:01, Ananda Samaddar ananda.samad...@vfemail.net wrote: I really like Arch. I switched about a year ago after being a Debian user for nine years. There is something that troubles me though about Arch. Its lack of security focus. Basically this and everything related to it comes down to manpower. Every time it gets brought up, the response is that would be nice and then no one does anything. If you want to make it happen, then work on submitting patches and doing the legwork that needs to be done.
Re: [arch-general] core/linux-api-headers?
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 20:11, Brendan Long kori...@gmail.com wrote: The difference between replaced and renamed is significant though. There's no reason not to replace kernel-headers with linux-api-headers, but there are some other packages (cdrtools vs cdrkit comes to mind) that would give the same message but have a very different effect. Just my 2 cents. -Brendan Long The difference is that replaces was never meant for alternate software choices, it was meant for things like gaim-pidgin for example.
Re: [arch-general] Why taking so long?
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 07:13, pyther pyt...@pyther.net wrote: Likely everything is being compiled in the kernel. The idea behind this is so you can take the binary and distribute it to anyone and have it work on their systems (with different hardware). if you want to use your own config and select what you want have a look at this wiki guide: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Custom_Kernel_Compilation_with_ABS ~pyther I don't think this wiki page has been updated since the big PKGBUILD rewrite. It should be *much* simpler now than that guide implies. The page needs a total overhaul by someone who knows this inside and out.
Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit - tone it down
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 06:48, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: In Germany, it is possible to have a technically based discussion without attacking the other people. If you try to have the same using the English language, people often claim that they have been personally attacked and personally attack other people although they did reply on a text that clearly does not contain any personal attack. I have been reading this mailing list for several years, and can think of maybe one or two discussions that got like this. The vast majority of them are quite civil technical discussions. Don't blame the language for your lack of competence. If you feel that English can't convey your ideas, that's not the fault of the language but a lack of fluency on your part. Stop trying to misdirect the discussion.
Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 13:40, Ray Kohler ataraxia...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Kitty seca...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, I'm in favor of #3, and practically, the other bigger distros that have switched back to cdrtools are fatter targets for any legal action. Furthermore, who exactly would be doing the suing? If it's the GNU, then their goal would be to fix the licence problems, not collect money. If that happened, put it all in AUR and wash our hands. I'm quite convinced by this argument myself. Who would be suing us? FSF wouldn't give us a hard time, and Herr Schilling certainly doesn't intend to do so. I think there's also no question that cdrtools is technically superior to cdrkit. There's practically no reason for even debating this. Couldn't we just have Jeorg give his official written permission to Arch to distribute the binaries and be done with it? He certainly seems to want us to...
Re: [arch-general] Yet another step toward Arch evil plan
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 07:51, ianux ia...@free.fr wrote: They provide ArchLinux 2009.08 in both 32 and 64 bit with their own kernel with grsecurity (2.6.31.5-grs) How well does this integrate? Arch doesn't have any officially-endorsed grsecurity kernel. Does it require userspace modifications? Have they submitted their package to Arch so the devs can look at it and check for flaws?
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] dcron 4.2
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 13:38, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: If you modify it, you should add it to the NoUpgrade line in /etc/pacman.conf. The backup array is for what we INTEND to be modified. Users are more than welcome to do what we don't intend, but you need to control whether of not pacman mucks with those files yourself +1
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] libpng todo list
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 16:59, Jan de Groot j...@jgc.homeip.net wrote: I just created a todo list containing 163 packages. This todo list contains all packages that link to libpng and that should get rebuilt when we update to libpng 1.4.0. What is the new soname? I'd like to make a list for arch-games as well.
Re: [arch-general] Good press at distrowatch.com
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 06:17, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote: Good thing you signed that message... it would be a shame if we did not know that +1 was definitely from you. Allan +1
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] kernel 2.6.32-1
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 08:42, Emmanuel Benisty benist...@gmail.com wrote: Just FTR, I have bisected the issue and found out this commit was to blame: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=181a5336d6cc836f05507410d66988c483ad0154 I've reverted it and rebuilt 2.6.32. Issue is gone. Did you report this as a fix upstream?
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] kernel 2.6.32-1
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 17:01, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: This is on the intel-gfx list and has been replied to by one of the devs. Sweet :D
Re: [arch-general] coreutils 8.1 major problem
2009/12/4 Lukáš Jirkovský l.jirkov...@gmail.com: Hi everyone, I've just noticed coreutils 8.1 in [testing] repo and I think I should warn you. Unfortunatelly it has one quite bad regression which can break quite many scripts. You should file on our bug tracker too.
Re: [arch-general] Unable to Install Arch on Server
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:59, Carlos Williams carlosw...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Dell server (Power Edge 1855) blade that I am trying to install Arch Linux on. I have no problems installing / running Debian, CentOS, or Ubuntu on this hardware but when I try to boot from Arch CD (2009.08 Netinst or Core), I get an error: Waiting for boot device... Error: Boot device didn't show up after 30 seconds... Falling back to interactive prompt. You can try and fix the problem manually, log out when you're finished. ramfs$ I also built a new PC from home with parts purchased from Newegg.com. The machine runs perfect with almost any flavor of Linux / Windows but when I go to install Arch Linux as above, I get the same error. I have done md5 sum check on my ISO image and used the CD on other servers fine. I know the disk / image is not the problem. Anyone know how I can resolve this? Here is a link to the screenshot of the error: http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6127/errorua.png I think that usually means that your grub+initrd combo is broken somewhere. Post your configs?
Re: [arch-general] Unable to Install Arch on Server
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 13:15, Carlos Williams carlosw...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Daenyth Blank daenyth+a...@gmail.com wrote: I think that usually means that your grub+initrd combo is broken somewhere. Post your configs? There are no configs. I am trying to do a fresh install. There are no Grub configs...yet. I just downloaded the 2009.08 netinst ISO and burned it to a CDROM. The error you see is when I boot from the CDROM. Ah.. Hmm. I don't really know. That looks like grub has passed and you're into the initrd though. What type of cdrom device are you using? It looks like it can't find the cd to mount it, and that's what's failing. You may be able to manually mount it past that, I'm not sure. Could also try booting from a usb image instead of a cd image.
Re: [arch-general] custom repo guide?
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 13:17, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: The only stipulation was that you needed to manually specify the build order and do the dep stuff manually. Maybe you could use pactree for this, to generate the order somehow? It seems like it's possible to do, except for any dep cycles.
Re: [arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?
2009/12/1 Arvid Picciani a...@exys.org: Arvid Picciani wrote: warning: cannot resolve hal=0.5.13, a dependency of xorg-server never mind my bitching. rebuilding xorg-server without hal was a matter of abs,edit,makepkg 3 arch Are you using -Syu or are you trying to just randomly -S things? Normally a full upgrade should not have conflicts to this degree.
Re: [arch-general] Help - Sound Disappeared -- Really! All modules - Gone?? (kernel bug?)
Flavio, It was installed on 11/6 along with emovix, libmms, cdrdao, libmodplug, speex, libshout, mpg123, libasyncns, pulseaudio, wavpack and quanta. I'm not sure which recommended it as an option. The weird part is that sound continued working as normal until just this past week. From 11/6 through ~ 11/20, sound worked fine. Then another install or update evidently brought the issue to life. All is good now. Thank you for your help. Did you reboot during this time frame? Perhaps the alsa modules were loaded, and when you finally rebooted (on the 20th?), they weren't there to be re-loaded.
Re: [arch-general] leafnode-svn and zoneminder
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 18:56, Geoffrey Lane freebal...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody know of a repo or a template for making a arch package out of a svn/git repo? http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/VCS_PKGBUILD_guidelines newpkg in pkgtools does a little bit of the work for you.
Re: [arch-general] usable browser?
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 18:51, Arvid Picciani a...@exys.org wrote: what is left? lynx co.
Re: [arch-general] kmail spellcheck reporting no errors when there plainly are errors - can someone confirm?
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:05, David Rosenstrauch dar...@darose.net wrote: On 11/25/2009 04:43 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: FYI - I've set the kwallet password to nothing, and it's seemed to work out nicely, as it no longer prompts me for the wallet password at inopportune times. In theory this is less secure. But since no one can be logged into my box as me without my account password anyway, in reality there's no way anyone can access my kwallet passwords without having my account password first. Maybe give this a shot? HTH, DR If you're running any services that face an open network, you are in theory vulnerable to an exploit in the service. Also, there have been exploits in web browsers like firefox that would give user-level access. This could potentially give the attacker access to your wallet without your user password, depending on the exploit(s) used. In this case, *all* your passwords will be comprimised. Using a password manager without a password itself is bad for your security.
Re: [arch-general] Need Text-to-Speech
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:17, Keith grndr...@gmail.com wrote: Peace to you, Daenyth. Glad to help :)
Re: [arch-general] Frustrating Dependencies
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:06, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:16:46 -0200 And finally, yes, there are optdeps, but pacman don't handle them as nicely it handles obligatory dependencies. If I install an optdep as an explicit installed package, when I uninstall the other package, the optdep will stay in my system. If I install it as a dependency, pacman will list it as an unnecessary dependency when I run pacman -Qdt. Well, this is a point which I'm missing, too, on Arch. This should indeed be fixed in pacman. Heiko There are a few bugs on the tracker and some stuff on the wiki about planned improvements. I think most people like that idea of supporting it, someone just has to code it in.
Re: [arch-general] Need Text-to-Speech
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 20:12, Keith grndr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. This article may help: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux_for_the_blind
Re: [arch-general] Single Person ISP?
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:23, Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com wrote: There are probably ways around that windows program requirement for the free ISPs. Years ago I was able to connect to AOL using a program called penggy. I can say from personal experience that pengy hasn't worked in over 5 years.
Re: [arch-general] We need a maintained-by-TU chrome/chromium...
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 08:48, Hamo hamo...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Archlinux users, Chrome is likely to be a daily-use web browser and with the Chrome OS releasing,it will become more and more reliable.Archlinux is a rolling-release distribution and it aims at being bleeding edge.So we should have a maintained-by-TU chrome/chromium and it is really useful... If you're interested, I recommend finding a sponsor so that you can apply... There are lots of software projects that would be good to have, but it only makes sense to keep them in the repos if someone is interested in maintaining them.
Re: [arch-general] arch-general Digest, Vol 61, Issue 39
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 09:36, jelle van der waa jellevd...@gmail.com wrote: Re: We need a maintained-by-TU chrome/chromium... (Juan Diego) There are enough arch user maintained repo's, you could ask them to package it beside that how much work is AUR ;) Can you please reply to the specific thread instead of the digest? Also, please don't top post, especially quoting the entire digest...
Re: [arch-general] MUA
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:07, Arvid Picciani a...@exys.org wrote: Mutt grows old and still doesn't do threads the way i want. i've tried sup, but find it too early in development. Especcially it is unusable slow. Can somone recommend another MUA? thanks I just saw a link on reddit this morning for notmuch, a sup-inspired mail reader. Might be worth looking into http://keithp.com/blogs/notmuch/
Re: [arch-general] file system capabilities
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:12, Shridhar Daithankar ghodech...@ghodechhap.net wrote: so can this be done by default? thus reducing setuid usage? it should improve security right? This should probably go on the bug tracker as a feature request.
Re: [arch-general] Full system encryption with support for hibernation
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:17, Karol Babioch ka...@babioch.de wrote: Hi, The only way mentioned in the wiki is highly not recommended as you would have to place your key on the unencrypted boot partition, which basically conflicts the idea of full encryption (see http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/System_Encryption_with_LUKS_for_dm-crypt#Encrypted_swap_with_suspend-to-disk_support). Could you put the key on a usb drive so that the drive is required to unlock the partitions?
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Load_Cycle_Count and storage-fixup
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:39, Stefan Erik Wilkens stefanwilk...@gmail.com wrote: yes, it's a serious issue and yes the users should be aware. But should the system itself decide to take this action or should we simply inform and let the user decide. I lean towards the latter myself. Absolutely inform the user. Don't do anything automatically for this. Also, please bottom post for these lists.
Re: [arch-general] makepkg git download agent
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:25, Ciprian Dorin, Craciun ciprian.crac...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all! Just a small question: is there somewhare a download agent for makepkg that uses Git? Thanks, Ciprian. I tried to make one some time ago, but it is a lot more complex than it seems at first glance. I don't have the details at hand right this minute, but if you're interested, I can dig it up when I get home. There's also a bug on the tracker relating to this, but I can't remember which. It would be under the pacman project if you want to look for it. I seem to remember it talking about svn.
Re: [arch-general] Splitting up the 'boinc' package
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 13:49, Karol Babioch ka...@babioch.de wrote: Hi, It probably makes more sense to mail the maintainer of the package directly as not everyone reads the ML
Re: [arch-general] checking runlevels in rc.shutdown
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 12:36, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: I have a feeling this was done to mirror the rc.multi script (which is what starts the DAEMONS array). But, you're right. If I boot into single user mode (runlevel 1) and then start daemons manually, rc.shutdown should should them down cleanly. It seems fine to me to remove this check. Any nay sayers? I can't think of any reason not to remove it.
Re: [arch-general] archweb isn't updating its record.
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 04:41, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: I have a i586 box that I have attempted to update for the past several days which kept telling me no updates were available (which I knew wasn't the case because I had had numerous x86_64 updates over the same period of time). Try pacman -Syy first in this case
Re: [arch-general] VPS hosting with Arch
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:38, Crouse cro...@archlinux.us wrote: hm I use https://www.sevenl.net/all-dedicated-servers It's not a VPS, it's a dedicated private server. Running Arch. I use it for archlinux.me and others, costs about $55 month. I get the whole machine this way ;) Crouse. Arch-games uses SevenL too. Haven't had any issues with them, and their connection is super fast.
Re: [arch-general] Last couple of updates Knocked my Wireless -- OUT (atheros/madwifi/ath_pci)
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 09:43, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: Vincent, Thank you for the information. At least I know I'm not going crazy... It looks like I will have to downgrade the kernel to test the older madwifi package: Could you try to recompile the older madwifi from svn using the latest kernel and see if that works? Also testing previous kernel with latest madwifi would be good. I'm fairly concerned about this, as I also use the madwifi drivers, and my speed is abysmal as it is... A reduction like that would put me at dial-up speeds.
Re: [arch-general] crypto++ broken on arch? (unable to link)
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 17:03, Caleb Cushing xenoterrac...@gmail.com wrote: according to the crypto++ mailing list my code does compile with that command on ubuntu. if I'm doing something wrong for arch I'd like to know. But I'm concerned that something is not being compiled right for crypto++ on arch. -- Caleb Cushing http://xenoterracide.blogspot.com My guess is either outdated library in ubuntu, which your codes works with, but doesn't work with a newer version, or that gcc/glibc being newer is making it break. It's likely one of those.
Re: [arch-general] archlinux on old hardware
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 17:04, Dimitrios Apostolou ji...@gmx.net wrote: The other is that I had trouble finding a truly lightweight X terminal (there were times when xterm was considered bloated ;) so I packaged myself rxvt. Most other distributions offer it so in case you decide to include it I attach the PKGBUILD. rxvt is available in the AUR (which you can read about on the wiki). The repos have mrxvt and rxvt-unicode packaged as binaries.
Re: [arch-general] ArcLlinux 2009.02 installation issues
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:23, Ciprian Dorin, Craciun ciprian.crac...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all! During my installation trials for ArchLinux 2009.02, I've stumbled upon some issues that I describe below. Please file bugs at http://bugs.archlinux.org (Release Engineering project)
Re: [arch-general] My first convert isn't going so well. Problems with net install.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 20:01, David C. Rankindrankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: Listmates, One of my friends from the openSuSE list was trying his first archilinux install and ran into an issue. IWell, my first attempt at installing Arch Linux did not go well. Error messages would be helpful.
Re: [arch-general] split packages documentation
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 10:32, Ali H. Caliskanali.h.calis...@gmail.com wrote:
depends=(('libgl' 'libx11=1.2.2'
'libxt' 'gcc-libs=4.4.1'
'dri2proto=2.1' 'libdrm=2.4.13'),
('libdrm=2.4.13' 'libxxf86vm=1.0.99.1'
'libxdamage=1.1.1' 'expat=2.0.1'), '')
Bash can do array of arrays? Are you sure?
Also, stop top-posting. It's annoying
Re: [arch-general] Audio cd ripper
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 06:52, o...@larstennstedt.deo...@larstennstedt.de wrote: Hello, I am searching for an audio cd ripper for my Arch Linux box and have some questions about that. I really like abcde
Re: [arch-general] offlineimap
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:08, joz...@gmx.com wrote: @ Loui Chang What was wrong with my signature? :) Anyway thanks for suggestion. It's only 2 lines now :) If your sig is longer than your actual message...
Re: [arch-general] A little weirdness at boot time
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 15:16, André Ramaciottiandre.ramacio...@gmail.com wrote: That's what I thought too. Anyway, it didn't work, but I found out what the real problem was. For some reason, sometimes I got: Wireless - eth0 Ethernet - eth1 and other times I got: Ethernet - eth0 Wireless - eth1 so netcfg would fail reporting that eth0 doesn't support scanning. I think I solved the problem loading both modules manually so now I always have: Ethernet - eth0 Wireless - eth1 A custom udev rule would probably work too... check the wiki.
