Re: [arch-general] bitcoin-qt out-of-date

[Jeroen Mathon via arch-general]

[Topic Closed]

On Thu, 1 Sep 2016, 18:14 Diego Viola via arch-general, <
arch-general@archlinux.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Guus Snijders  wrote:
> > Op 1 sep. 2016 18:00 schreef "Diego Viola via arch-general"
> > :
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Doug Newgard 
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:42:24 -0300
> >> > Diego Viola via arch-general  wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hello,
> >> >>
> >> >> I flagged this package 10 days ago as out of date and I've been
> trying
> >> >> to contact the maintainer about it, with no response.
> >> >>
> >> >> https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/bitcoin-qt/
> >> >>
> >> >> Is there any problem with updating this? Any reasons for the delay or
> >> >> lack of response?
> >> >
> >> > Oh no, 10 days.
> >> >
> >> > Seriously?
> >>
> >> Other packages get updated much quicker, are you just going to put the
> >> blame the users on this one too?
> >
> > Relax, it was just a funny remark.
> >
> > Arch dev's and TU's are volunteers. I guess (s)he hasn't had an
> opportunity
> > to update the package yet.
> >
> > Is the current version broken in some way? (Not a dev, just curious).
> >
> > Mvg, Guus Snijders
>
> That's fine, I guess my expectations for some contributions are too
> high, sorry in any case.
>
> Diego
>

Re: [arch-general] bitcoin-qt out-of-date

[Jeroen Mathon via arch-general]

Random, get your shit from bitcoins site then. :p

On Thu, 1 Sep 2016, 18:13 Diego Viola via arch-general, <
arch-general@archlinux.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 1:08 PM, D C via arch-general
>  wrote:
> > Some people don't get the concept of volunteering lol.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Jeroen Mathon via arch-general <
> > arch-general@archlinux.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Some people have projects, or other things that take priority, if you
> have
> >> a problem then get the git version from the AUR
> >>
> >> On Thu, 1 Sep 2016, 18:01 Diego Viola via arch-general, <
> >> arch-general@archlinux.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Doug Newgard  >
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:42:24 -0300
> >> > > Diego Viola via arch-general  wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Hello,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I flagged this package 10 days ago as out of date and I've been
> trying
> >> > >> to contact the maintainer about it, with no response.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/bitcoin-qt/
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Is there any problem with updating this? Any reasons for the delay
> or
> >> > >> lack of response?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Thanks,
> >> > >> Diego
> >> > >
> >> > > Oh no, 10 days.
> >> > >
> >> > > Seriously?
> >> >
> >> > Other packages get updated much quicker, are you just going to put the
> >> > blame the users on this one too?
> >> >
> >> > Diego
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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>
> I get the concept of volunteering just fine, I've been using Linux for
> as long as I remember and I actually contributed to the Linux kernel
> itself. Thank you very much.
>
> Thing is, I use bitcoin-qt to get paid for work, and I'm not going to
> put my hard earned money on random AUR packages for this.
>
> The reason I trust the package from the repo is that I'm hoping I can
> verify by signing them in some way, but there's no way I'm using some
> random AUR package for this.
>
> Diego
>

Re: [arch-general] bitcoin-qt out-of-date

[Jeroen Mathon via arch-general]

Exactly

On Thu, 1 Sep 2016, 18:08 D C via arch-general, 
wrote:

> Some people don't get the concept of volunteering lol.
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Jeroen Mathon via arch-general <
> arch-general@archlinux.org> wrote:
>
> > Some people have projects, or other things that take priority, if you
> have
> > a problem then get the git version from the AUR
> >
> > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016, 18:01 Diego Viola via arch-general, <
> > arch-general@archlinux.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Doug Newgard 
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:42:24 -0300
> > > > Diego Viola via arch-general  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hello,
> > > >>
> > > >> I flagged this package 10 days ago as out of date and I've been
> trying
> > > >> to contact the maintainer about it, with no response.
> > > >>
> > > >> https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/bitcoin-qt/
> > > >>
> > > >> Is there any problem with updating this? Any reasons for the delay
> or
> > > >> lack of response?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Diego
> > > >
> > > > Oh no, 10 days.
> > > >
> > > > Seriously?
> > >
> > > Other packages get updated much quicker, are you just going to put the
> > > blame the users on this one too?
> > >
> > > Diego
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [arch-general] bitcoin-qt out-of-date

[Jeroen Mathon via arch-general]

Some people have projects, or other things that take priority, if you have
a problem then get the git version from the AUR

On Thu, 1 Sep 2016, 18:01 Diego Viola via arch-general, <
arch-general@archlinux.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Doug Newgard 
> wrote:
> > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:42:24 -0300
> > Diego Viola via arch-general  wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I flagged this package 10 days ago as out of date and I've been trying
> >> to contact the maintainer about it, with no response.
> >>
> >> https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/bitcoin-qt/
> >>
> >> Is there any problem with updating this? Any reasons for the delay or
> >> lack of response?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Diego
> >
> > Oh no, 10 days.
> >
> > Seriously?
>
> Other packages get updated much quicker, are you just going to put the
> blame the users on this one too?
>
> Diego
>

Re: [arch-general] Opinions on PowerShell?

[Jeroen Mathon via arch-general]

Like that lwtter to opensource programmers?

On Fri, 19 Aug 2016, 17:09 Lee Fuller via arch-general, <
arch-general@archlinux.org> wrote:

> Microsoft have set a precedent of unnecessary vile arrogance towards Linux
> and the companies you cite here don't. I think that is fundamentally why
> most people have responded with scepticism.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Kind Regards,Lee Fuller*
>
> *PGP Fingerprint : *
> 4ACAEBA4B9EE1B3A075034302D5C3D050E6ED55A
>
> On 19 August 2016 at 16:05, Sebastiaan Lokhorst via arch-general <
> arch-general@archlinux.org> wrote:
>
> > 2016-08-19 16:28 GMT+02:00 Mauro Santos via arch-general <
> > arch-general@archlinux.org>:
> > >
> > > Make no mistake, they are after profits and do whatever it takes to
> keep
> > > the money flowing
> > >
> >
> > So do Red Hat and Google. But does that keep us from using systemd or
> > Chromium?
> >
> > Please stop this unfounded, tinfoil hat "Micro$oft sucks!!11" whining.
> > If there is an actual reason why you shouldn't use a product, please say
> > so, but this "don't use it because Microsoft made it" nonsense is
> > ridiculous.
> >
>

Re: [arch-general] Opinions on PowerShell?

[Jeroen Mathon via arch-general]

This, just this. is exacly why i also avoid microsoft shitware.


On 19-08-16 16:28, Mauro Santos via arch-general wrote:

On 19-08-2016 14:27, Stephen E. Baker via arch-general wrote:

As a PowerShell user, it certainly has it's place, but it's place is
pretty niche in the linux world, so +1 for the AUR.

Given that it comes from Microsoft they must have some agenda to
fulfill, I'd rather not touch this even with a 10 foot pole, just like I
try to stay away for other MS products as much as I can. The AUR is
where it should stay, but even then they can spin it as PR fodder just
like canonical spun snappy coming to Arch Linux.

Make no mistake, they are after profits and do whatever it takes to keep
the money flowing, all their friendliness to linux and open source is
tainted with patent attacks behind the curtain. The next time the
leadership changes there is no guarantee that this new found
friendliness isn't going to change.

Re: [arch-general] Opinions on PowerShell?

[Jeroen Mathon via arch-general]

Will that shebang work correctly with powershell?


On 19-08-16 11:52, Tinu Weber wrote:

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:39:11 +0200, Jeroen Mathon via arch-general wrote:

Using powershell as your default shell will be a total disaster.

A lot of standard scripts will not function correctly.

Scripts are supposed to have a shebang, so I don't exactly get your
problem.

People are also using fish, whose syntax is quite a bit different, and
they don't seem to have any issues either (apart from the locale part,
but that's something different).

Re: [arch-general] Opinions on PowerShell?

[Jeroen Mathon via arch-general]

In that perspective its ok, but im sure that almost noone is going to 
use it.


Using powershell as your default shell will be a total disaster.

A lot of standard scripts will not function correctly.


On 19-08-16 11:25, Kwang Moo Yi via arch-general wrote:

On 08/19/2016 07:20 AM, Jeroen Mathon via arch-general wrote:

Shipping PowerShell to linux will be a total disaster.


Why would it be a disaster? One more option for Linux that is totally 
up to the user's freedom to choose. I would personally never use it, 
but it's nice that now I can *choose* to not use it.


and +1 for it the powershell not treating powershell as an exception. 
Let it go through AUR.


Cheers,
Kwang

Re: [arch-general] Opinions on PowerShell?

[Jeroen Mathon via arch-general]

To be honest.
I think that Bash is way more useful for sys admin work. Shipping
PowerShell to linux will be a total disaster.

On Fri, 19 Aug 2016, 07:17 Christian Hesse,  wrote:

> Hunter Connelly via arch-general  on Thu,
> 2016/08/18 21:28:
> > On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 09:00:33PM -0400, Eli Schwartz via arch-general
> > wrote:
> > > Why would anyone want to use an overly-verbose scripting language like
> > > PowerShell as an interactive shell, **unless it was their only
> option**?
> >
> > While I tend to prefer Unix-style shells, there are *some* things that
> > PowerShell does better.
> >
> > Here's an example I found on Reddit in the thread about this on /r/linux.
> > Both of the following commands find the size and name of the three
> largest
> > files in a directory.
> >
> > Bash:ls -l | sed 's/ \+/,/g' | cut -d',' -f 5,9 | sort -g | tail
> -3
>
> ls -1 --sort=size | head -n3
>
> > PowerShell:  ls -file | sort -pr length | select length, name -l 3
> >
> > What seems to be the most noticable difference is that PowerShell, being
> an
> > object-oriented language, pipes objects instead of raw text. I think this
> > might make many things easier while writing scripts.
> --
> main(a){char*c=/*Schoene Gruesse */"B?IJj;MEH"
> "CX:;",b;for(a/*Best regards my address:*/=0;b=c[a++];)
> putchar(b-1/(/*Chriscc -ox -xc - && ./x
> */b/42*2-3)*42);}
>