Re: [arch-general] Slim login manager is logging everything
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 21:01:53 +0200, Ananda Samaddar wrote: I'm using Slim as my login manager and it's logging absolutely everything. Things like gstreamer and alsa errors. This is making the log file huge, of the order of 8 gb when compressed. Can anyone think of a solution? I could always use the hack of putting the logfile in /tmp but I don't want to do that. /var is not on a separate partition and I'm not prepared to re-partition my system. Obviously with such large logfiles I'm getting performance issues. I'm an XFCE user so I'd like to avoid kdm and gdm. Are are there any other alternative X11 login apps other than xdm that don't depend on GNOME or KDE if I can't fix my issue with Slim? thanks, Ananda I'm using xdm with a modified xdm-archlinux (blackified) theme since a week or so. It is simple and it just works! I've used Slim before and after that I didn't use anything, just autologon, but that isn't really safe for a laptop. I'm not sure about the log files, never took a look at it. -- To read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting
Re: [arch-general] New Google Group for discussion and notices on Arch security.
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 01:00:57 +0200, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: My OPINION is that Arch is not a distro for those who do not want to do regular total updates. Of course, some have individual packages in NoUpgrade, but the number of problems which crop up which come down to "you didn't run pacman -Syu!" is an indicator of why its a bad idea. +1 Forgot to react on that part. -- To read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting
Re: [arch-general] New Google Group for discussion and notices on Arch security.
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 00:35:19 +0200, Miah Johnson wrote: Things to remember: 1. There is no such thing as "secure". 2. Proper security consists of multiple layers of defense. Additional examples of things the AST could do: 1. Propose changes to default configuration files to be "more secure", and have more documentation around setting up services in a more secure fashion. 2. Assist with SELinux & GRsecurity projects. 3. Propose changes to initscripts to make sure software drops privileges and chroots where possible, or at least make it easier to enable such features. 4. pie / ssp 5. PaX 6. Audits First of all, please don't top post. It is really annoying. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Back on topic: Start a security team while there isn't anything like secure? Alright I get the point, but I guess arch has the natural ability to become faster stable just because of the bleeding edge. Software bugs get tackled faster, patch are quickly spread, not waiting for months like many other distros. I know running the newest code doesn't mean secure, but that choice is up to the user (check the svn and use abs and so on). Other examples, hmm. You can still propose changes, you don't need a team to write a patch for a configuration file or the initscripts. SELinux is not even in community, maybe apply for becoming a TU for it? Or help out at Fedora or wherever it is developed? I don't know much about GRsecurity/PaX/SSP/Audits, but check the Wiki and try to help out there, discus it there. People who are interested should be following those pages and contribute, the same for SELinux. The Wikipages look really nice. I don't know pie, but that would probably have something to do with GRsecurity too. I guess most of the things are already there, some people want to give it a name. I'm not stopping you from a team, but I just don't believe in it after seeing so many fails. (I'm not a Dev nor a TU, just giving my opinion.) -- To read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] dropping flashplugin x86_64
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 23:50:10 +0200, Caleb Cushing wrote: so according to that you should see HTML5 WebM. Do you? I see HTML5 but no WebM which means it's using h.264. even if you append the &webm=1 which I suspect means youtube is smart and knows to fall back. I checked and I was wrong, Chrome/chromium 5 doesn't support WebM yet. Sorry about that, it is in the Dev channel though. Got confused with the tagging. Still, give it a few months. Opera will probably be the first to release an official browser version that supports WebM, quickly followed by Chromium and then Firefox. -- To read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting
Re: [arch-general] New Google Group for discussion and notices on Arch security.
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:57:56 +0200, Ananda Samaddar wrote: 1. Check for vulnerabilities 2. Know how to use PKGBUILDS and abs 3. Can spare some time to send announcements, create interim PKGBUILDs and file security issues on the bug tracker. 1. [testing] users do that 2. [testing] users, Devs and TUs (should) know this 3. see 1 and 2 IMHO, Arch's rolling release and cutting/bleeding edge kicks the need for a security team. Just do your one man thing like any testing user. The only thing I can think of in ways of security is signed packages, so write some code if you are a coder or put some time in a plan on how to achieve this instead of starting a strange vague unofficial security mailing list. If you do have a lot of security issues about arch, just flood the arch-general mailing list. If the devs see 'a lot' of messages concerning security, they might come back on the arch-security mailing list. Just be patient. -- To read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] dropping flashplugin x86_64
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:46:11 +0200, Jan de Groot wrote: I don't care much about performance, but what is irritating is that whenever some website loads anything flash-related, my CPU gets speedstepped to max frequency and my laptop fan prepares my laptop for a takeoff. When you're on battery, this can mean you'll lose half of battery runtime, just by having a browser window open that includes a flash banner. This isn't only a problem on x86_64, but on every non-windows platform. Maybe it extends to windows also, but I haven't tested that in years. Besides the performance problem, flash also makes browsers unstable. I'm very happy with the out-of-process plugins in Firefox 3.6.4 prereleases, it's just too bad that I don't use firefox for daily browsing. I didn't like flash but kept it to play games occasionally (and yes, youtube a little, max 1 vid a day). Since it doesn't run on x86_64 and there isn't an easy way to install the 32bit version and make it work with Opera 10.6 beta, I dropped it. Opera 10.6 and Chrome 5 support WebM, so will Firefox 4, Opera 10.6 and Firefox 3 both support Ogg Theora, so yes I think the tag is ready. IE is always slow on adopting new technologies so I can't see it as a serious browser (no matter if it has 50% market share). I forgot about Safari, well that is just a strange kid. Apple ports the browser to Windows and claims to have a cross platform browser, what about Linux? :-s On the codec side it doesn't support WebM nor Ogg Theora, a new IE6 if you ask me. For the games, would be great, and indeed the Astroid game works smooth. I think I should open a topic on the forums with more of these games websites. I don't know how far the support for canvas is, but my default browser Opera 10.6 does. On the topic of open-source versus closed-source, I wont discus it. Both have advantages and disadvantages, I just prefer to use the software that just works (like Opera, WebM, Chromium, Firefox). Flash doesn't work for me, the same with IE and Safari. Youtube should really convert ALL there videos to WebM, old and new, it will become the standard in the next months. -- To read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting
Re: [arch-general] synergy-plus
On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 02:48:08 +0200, Caleb Cushing wrote: I suppose this could be filed as a bug... but since extra/synergy has long been unmaintained upstream. I recently found a fork http://code.google.com/p/synergy-plus/ for which there is already a pkgbuild on AUR. perhaps we should consider relegating the original synergy to AUR and moving synergy-plus into extra (or community) I'm not a Synergy user atm, but this would be a good deal! +1 from me. -- To read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting
Re: [arch-general] [testing] news
On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 00:39:29 +0200, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 00:37 +0200, Jeroen Op 't Eynde wrote: I would like to support Arch by going into testing and report bugs. Is there a specific place were important news is posted about [testing]? I follow the main RSS feed [1] and check the forums regularly. [1] http://www.archlinux.org/feeds/news/ http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman#Repositories Subscribed, couldn't find this on the wiki while searching for 'testing'. -- To read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting
[arch-general] [testing] news
I would like to support Arch by going into testing and report bugs. Is there a specific place were important news is posted about [testing]? I follow the main RSS feed [1] and check the forums regularly. [1] http://www.archlinux.org/feeds/news/ -- To read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting
Re: [arch-general] dualboot?
On Thu, 27 May 2010 23:17:42 +0200, John K Pate wrote: Maybe just compare the websites... obviously Python wins! :) At any rate, there's no reason not to install both euphoria and python. If you're planning on sticking with a distribution like Arch that requires you to `look under the hood', you should get used to working with a variety of programming languages. There's no single language which is perfect for every job. yes -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde - jer...@xprsyrslf.be - http://xprsyrslf.be To read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting Steun Jeugdhuis de PUT via Donamail: http://www.donamail.be/default.asp?btnID=iYOviYvW
Re: [arch-general] dualboot?
On Thu, 27 May 2010 18:48:38 +0200, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:12 PM, David Lowe wrote: I'm new to Arch Linux & Linux in general, so please excuse any newbie questions... Can the Arch Linux install do a dualboot installation? I've read some documentation and it seems to be iffy on this point. Also, why are most Linux users and programmers so obsessed with Python? I'd much rather download Euphoria. http://www.rapideuphoria.com If it's a requirement that a Python runtime be on the system, then I'd rather not install at all. Python is an opensource language used by many applications. You may have to install it while installing some desktop environment. As for dual boot, any Linux can be dual booted. If you already have some other Linux, you just need to add the entry for the partiton which contains the Arch kernel into Grub. Maybe just compare the websites... obviously Python wins! :) -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde - jer...@xprsyrslf.be - http://xprsyrslf.be To read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting Steun Jeugdhuis de PUT via Donamail: http://www.donamail.be/default.asp?btnID=iYOviYvW
Re: [arch-general] can you only test certain packages?
On Fri, 21 May 2010 00:21:12 +0200, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 18:04 -0400, Daenyth Blank wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 18:05, Jeroen Op 't Eynde wrote: > There is a number 3. > > 3. Add [testing] and do a pacman -Sy package-you-like. It will install the > latest package from testing and its dependencies. Remove [testing] again and > you can go on using your non-testing system. I don't know if it is > fail-proof but it worked for me with xorg-server (to 1.8). When I'm doing a > pacman -Syu it just says that the packages installed are newer and therefore > doesn't update these certain packages. > This will only work if the package uses versioned depends, which is not always the case. AND its a recipe for eventual system breakage... Ok, that wasn't a very safe step I took. :D As I said it worked for me and I got luck. The PKGBUILD has indeed versioned depends (most of them). -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde - jer...@xprsyrslf.be - http://xprsyrslf.be To read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting Steun Jeugdhuis de PUT via Donamail: http://www.donamail.be/default.asp?btnID=iYOviYvW
Re: [arch-general] can you only test certain packages?
On Thu, 20 May 2010 23:26:22 +0200, Jim Pryor wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 01:29:41PM -0400, Caleb Cushing wrote: I'm trying to help with the testing of perl 5.12 but I'd rather not test every package out there. Is it possible to block certain packages from being updated from testing? or only allow certain ones? maybe with a regex? obviously I don't wish to ban them globally. if they make it into a non testing repo I'm fine with it. (This should be a sticky in the forum.) There are exactly two safe options with respect to testing. 1. Update everything from testing. Actually this is a bit overkill. If you just want to update a package Z, it'd be enough to update Z from testing, and also any of its dependencies Y that are also in testing, and also anything in testing that depends on either Z or any of the Ys. 2. The other safe option is to install *none* of the binary updates from testing. Instead, grab the new PKGBUILD for Z from /var/abs/testing/, and makepkg it yourself, against the other packages and libraries you've already got installed. There is a number 3. 3. Add [testing] and do a pacman -Sy package-you-like. It will install the latest package from testing and its dependencies. Remove [testing] again and you can go on using your non-testing system. I don't know if it is fail-proof but it worked for me with xorg-server (to 1.8). When I'm doing a pacman -Syu it just says that the packages installed are newer and therefore doesn't update these certain packages. -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde - jer...@xprsyrslf.be - http://xprsyrslf.be To read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting Steun Jeugdhuis de PUT via Donamail: http://www.donamail.be/default.asp?btnID=iYOviYvW
Re: [arch-general] BASH no longer does 'for i in $(ls); do ls $i; done'??
On Tue, 18 May 2010 22:17:48 +0200, David C. Rankin wrote: 15:10 nirvana:~/dt/compiz/compizX11> l total 24 drwxr-xr-x 6 david david 4096 May 18 15:04 . drwxr-xr-x 9 david dcr 4096 May 18 15:04 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 david david 4096 May 18 15:03 i586 drwxr-xr-x 2 david david 4096 May 18 15:03 noarch drwxr-xr-x 2 david david 4096 May 18 15:03 src drwxr-xr-x 2 david david 4096 May 18 15:03 x86_64 15:14 alchemy:~/dt/compiz/compiz_11.0> l total 24 drwxr-xr-x 6 david dcr 4096 2010-05-17 23:56 ./ drwxr-xr-x 9 david dcr 4096 2010-05-18 10:28 ../ drwxr-xr-x 2 david dcr 4096 2010-05-18 10:24 i586/ drwxr-xr-x 2 david dcr 4096 2010-05-17 23:56 noarch/ drwxr-xr-x 2 david dcr 4096 2010-05-18 10:22 src/ drwxr-xr-x 2 david dcr 4096 2010-05-18 10:21 x86_64/ You probably did check the aliases. (and I see a difference in the first and second '> l' with the trailing slash. -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde - jer...@xprsyrslf.be - http://xprsyrslf.be To read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting
Re: [arch-general] What are the dual isos about?
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:39:13 +0200, Karol Babioch wrote: Hi, I've found the following link, which seems to contain more up to date images of archlinux and the installer: http://build.archlinux.org/isos/ Now I'm wondering what these dual images are about? Is this a new architecture? Whats the difference to x86_64 in that case? How is the support for packages? Thanks in advance! http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=94687 -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde jer...@xprsyrslf.be http://xprsyrslf.be A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting
Re: [arch-general] successful pacman -Syu w/new kernal26: Now have microscopic console font :-(
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:00:53 +0200, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook
wrote:
Sigh...
I just did a pacman -Syu. It updated lots of stuff.
The only issues listed in my pacman.log were:
While: updating keystore /etc/ssl/certs/java/cacerts...
ignored import, signature not available:
/etc/ssl/certs/COMODO_Certification_Authority.pem
keytool error: java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: SHA384withECDSA
Signature not available
And a warning about my manually managed separate primary boot partition
not being mounted... Which will never be mounted during *_any_* Linux
distro's upgrade process...
I compared /boot and /mnt/boot grub entries, verified that the vmlinuz
and
kernel.img filenames hadn't changed, Then copied the vmlinuz, and
both kernal.img files from /boot, to /mnt/boot And rebooted...
As far as I can see (so far) the only real issue I have with my upgraded
Arch system is that the size of my console fonts has drastically been
reduced...
Once the gui started, all the X font sizes were just fine. But my eyes
hurt just trying to read the console well enough to login to run
startx...
The next thing I did was to edit MY grub's kernel line to include:
vga=normal, and rebooted. But partway through the boot messages the
screen still clears and the font size becomes painfully small.
Next, Even though I've never had to bother with framebuffer before (I
prefer the normal sized console font, and I don't like pretty pictures on
my screen until AFTER I run startx...) I read the "FRAMEBUFFER RESOLUTION
SETTINGS" comments in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file. And that led me to
the framebuffer section of the grub wiki file. Which in turn led to my
installing hwinfo from aur on this amd_64 laptop.
02: None 00.0: 11001 VESA Framebuffer
[Created at bios.459]
Unique ID: rdCR.mrzO17IxmKC
Hardware Class: framebuffer
Model: "ATI MS48"
Vendor: "ATI Technologies Inc."
Device: "MS48"
SubVendor: "ATI Radeon® Xpress 1150"
SubDevice:
Revision: "01.00"
Memory Size: 16 MB
Memory Range: 0xc800-0xc8ff (rw)
Mode 0x0312: 640x480 (+1920), 24 bits
the comments in the menu.lst file say on the 16MB line "0x312=786"
So I tried vga=786 And rebooted...
Just before the boot messages list ":: Bringing up loopback interface"
the screen still clears {expletive-deleted!} And then the fontsize still
makes me
squint. {many expletives-deleted!}
Problem #1
How can I stop the reduction in the console font size???
Evidently the framebuffer setting isn't doing it...
Problem #2
How can I stop the boot process from clearing the screen on tty1???
I really dislike ANY of the boot messages to disappear. I "LIKE"
being able to use gpm to copy/paste them into a console editor...
I didn't like it when it cleared the last few lines just prior to giving
me a login prompt. But at least that could be compensated for by the
kludge of including a multi-line echo statement in /etc/rc.local.
But now that it lops the majority of the boot messages off the top
it's beyond my ability to kludgon it into submission. ;-(
Suggestions anyone?
For #1: For the resolution, you probably have some high resolution screen
and KMS is now enabled by default. So check here:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KMS
For #2: Just edit /et/inittab and comment out the rule with tty1
--
Jeroen Op 't Eynde
jer...@xprsyrslf.be
http://xprsyrslf.be
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting
Re: [arch-general] netcfg v2.5.2 in [core]
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:33:00 +0100, James Rayner wrote: netcfg v2.5.2 This release brings a completely new auto wireless/wired configuration. The old net-auto is deprecated and no longer included. There are also some very minor configuration changes that may affect a few people. ... Contributors: I had a few big contributors to this release: Jim Pryor: Many internal changes and improvements Thomas Bächler: wpa_actiond based auto roaming/connection Thanks guys! Great work all of you! I don't use the auto wireless stuff so I won't be affected that much, just wait till it breaks. :D Thanks for providing this magnificent tool!! -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde jer...@xprsyrslf.be http://xprsyrslf.be Use bottom posting: http://www.idallen.com/topposting.html
Re: [arch-general] xf86-video-intel and KMS
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:30:58 +0100, Pierre Chapuis wrote: I saw on arch-announce that xf86-video-intel now only supports KMS, and I wanted to ask: is there still a way to specify the resolution of virtual consoles, like we used to do with vga=XXX in kernel options? http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel#KMS_.28Kernel_Mode_Setting.29 -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde jer...@xprsyrslf.be http://xprsyrslf.be Use bottom posting: http://www.idallen.com/topposting.html
Re: [arch-general] mail client
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:24:30 +0100, andrew james wrote: i think I am soon tired of thunderbird 3.. I could revert to vers 2 but why is the newer vers slow, laggy, semi-stallish? has anyone else a funky thunderbird vers 3? any switch values to cause it to work quicker? alternatively, what is your favoured mail news client for POP3, IMAP, Syndicates, news groups NNTP, all in one? I want a better program. andrew I've been using Opera's Mail client. It is a no nonsense mail client with support for all above and it integrates with Opera itself obviously. It is closed source and not in the official repo's but you can find it in AUR. When TB3 came out I've tried to switch in combination with uzbl or firefox and kick the last closed source app off my laptop. But TB3 is terrible imho. I've also tried Claws/Sylpheed for a while but that interface is so spartan and I don't know if it has NNTP support. In the end you should try at least Opera and Claws to see which fits your needs. -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde jer...@xprsyrslf.be http://xprsyrslf.be Use bottom posting: http://www.idallen.com/topposting.html
Re: [arch-general] CUPS
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 03:42:55 +0100, Weiwei Wang wrote: Thanks Jeroen. My situation is that in the windows system the guest user is available, so other windows users can connect to this printer very easily. My problem is what username and password I should provide? and I was also prompted to enter the domain name. The windows server is in the group MSHOME, so I should type MSHOME as the domain? I tried to type MSHOME and a windows username and password to access smb://www-pc/hpLaserJ but failed to connect it from nautils. Any more advice? Again, don't start your e-mail on to top of another, start below the reply. It is normal that you can't connect from nautilus, it ain't a folder. Start reading the wiki's again and search for your answers on the forums. DIY, that's what Arch is about. Again, don't start your e-mail on to top of another, start below the reply. -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde jer...@xprsyrslf.be http://xprsyrslf.be
Re: [arch-general] CUPS
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Jeroen Op 't Eynde wrote: On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:43:03 +0100, Weiwei Wang wrote: I read the wiki guide and do as what is told. However, I always receive this messge: Connection failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME ... DeviceURI smb://elegate:jess...@172.16.65.79/print$/ ... And I checked that the printer in the windows system is share with the name hpLaserJ, however when I connect it with smbclient // 172.16.65.79/hpLaserJ, i receive NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED ... Use smbtree to view your shares so you get a proper address. 'smbtree -N' to see if you can access it without password. 'smbrree --user=USERNAME' to use your preferred username cups and samba are both definitely running. You don't need to run smbd too access the shares, at least I don't have too. On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 14:17:03 +0100, Weiwei Wang wrote: I typed smbtree -1 and was asked to type the password. After typing the password, I get result like this: MSHOME \\ZHANGYBzhangyb \\WWW-PC \\WWW-PC\C$ 默认共享 \\WWW-PC\ftp (I) \\WWW-PC\H$ 默认共享 \\WWW-PC\ADMIN$ 远程管理 \\WWW-PC\F$ 默认共享 \\WWW-PC\hpLaserJ hp LaserJet 1010 \\WWW-PC\G$ 默认共享 \\WWW-PC\I$ 默认共享 \\WWW-PC\print$ 打印机驱动程序 \\WWW-PC\D$ 默认共享 \\WWW-PC\IPC$ 远程 IPC \\WWW-PC\E$ 默认共享 ... where WWW-PC is the windows system where our printer is shared. what should I do to modify the cups configuration to make it work? First, don't top-post, it obfuscates reading. The printer is shared with \\WWW-PC\hpLaserJ (not \\WWW-PC\print$, that is a directory that shares the drivers for windows hosts) Go to http://localhost:631/ and add the printer with 'Windows Printer via SAMBA'. The address should be 'smb://WWW-PC/hpLaserJ'. If that works, you don't have to enter any password, otherwise use 'smb://username:passw...@www-pc/hpLaserJ'. -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde jer...@xprsyrslf.be http://xprsyrslf.be How to set up a cheap professional website @ XprsYrslf.be
Re: [arch-general] CUPS
On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:43:03 +0100, Weiwei Wang wrote: I read the wiki guide and do as what is told. However, I always receive this messge: Connection failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME ... DeviceURI smb://elegate:jess...@172.16.65.79/print$/ ... And I checked that the printer in the windows system is share with the name hpLaserJ, however when I connect it with smbclient //172.16.65.79/hpLaserJ, i receive NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED ... Use smbtree to view your shares so you get a proper address. 'smbtree -N' to see if you can access it without password. 'smbrree --user=USERNAME' to use your preferred username cups and samba are both definitely running. You don't need to run smbd too access the shares, at least I don't have too. -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde jer...@xprsyrslf.be http://xprsyrslf.be How to set up a cheap professional website @ XprsYrslf.be
Re: [arch-general] speaking of Thunderbird 3.X - great new thread summary view
On 12/16/2009 03:03 AM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 03:34 +0100, Arvid Picciani wrote: On 12/15/2009 11:43 PM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: It doesn't display '3-4' lines, it's the first sentence or so, you see 3-4 lines because of the screen width. I don't even get any sentences, just the "..." (literally I see 3 dots per message) as mentioned above. Looks like I'm alone on this... same here. are you on imap? might be related to the imap offline index being broken. Random guess, though. Hi Arvid, yes I'm running on imap, a local dovecot store... Any links? I'll search for more info on this when I get into the office. I'm on IMAP too, but it works here. -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde jer...@xprsyrslf.be http://xprsyrslf.be How to set up a cheap professional hosting @ XprsYrslf.be See my latest work: www.jhdeput.be
Re: [arch-general] Making pacman check multiple repos
On 12/13/2009 10:33 PM, Brendan Long wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 12:07 +0100, Jeroen Op 't Eynde wrote: On 12/13/2009 10:02 AM, Nathan Wayde wrote: On 13/12/09 08:48, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 03:31 -0500, Qadri wrote: So should it be a function of the program to make sure that happens? Or is a responsibility of the user? Should the functionality be programmed into pacman to make sure that happens, or should we be asking that users be aware of what repos they're using? Well said, I agree. I believe that if separate db and package downloads are implemented it should not be so users can be 'up-to-the-minute' in packages, but for greater security. In fact, now that I think about it, having two dbs (one on the mirror with all packages as available on that mirror and one 'master' with a list of authoritative checksums) would make sense, as it fulfils the security aspect well while avoiding the problem of db/package mismatch. The 'master' db would have to have a history of previous checksums as well. One possible alternative to explicitly storing a history of checksums is to checksum the dbfile, and name it as such. instead of core.db.tar.gz, you'd have have core.[checksum].db.tar.gz and these would be stored for some time on the master. In order to make it secure the standard checksums would have to be upgraded to something with less collisions than md5. Of-course this also raises the question of 'what happens when the master goes down?'. I'm following this topic, and I a bit with Qadri. I think it should be/stay the responsibility of the user. My solution to get up-to-the-minute packages is very simple: -put ftp.archlinux.org on top of the mirrorlist -do pacman -Sy -comment ftp.archlinux.org out of the mirrorlist -do pacman -Su And then it goes through the list of servers for the latest packages. Change the way how the mirrors and how updating works is unnecessary IMHO. Aren't you doing exactly what's being proposed (check the master for the package list, then download from a faster mirror), just manually? If you think that it's the best way to do things, why not make it automatic? I'm doing basically the same manually, yes. It was in an answer to the question of Qadri. Damn, when I my email again it seems I forgot to type some words, I'm dyslectic, sorry. Well, to respond to your question: I'm not always interested in doing it that way, I just do it when I'm impatient to get a new package or something. Mostly I just update from more local servers, which have a database at an age of few hours or sometimes a 24 hours. -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde jer...@xprsyrslf.be http://xprsyrslf.be How to set up a cheap professional hosting @ XprsYrslf.be See my latest work: www.jhdeput.be
Re: [arch-general] Making pacman check multiple repos
On 12/13/2009 12:08 PM, Allan McRae wrote: Jeroen Op 't Eynde wrote: On 12/13/2009 10:02 AM, Nathan Wayde wrote: On 13/12/09 08:48, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 03:31 -0500, Qadri wrote: So should it be a function of the program to make sure that happens? Or is a responsibility of the user? Should the functionality be programmed into pacman to make sure that happens, or should we be asking that users be aware of what repos they're using? Well said, I agree. I believe that if separate db and package downloads are implemented it should not be so users can be 'up-to-the-minute' in packages, but for greater security. In fact, now that I think about it, having two dbs (one on the mirror with all packages as available on that mirror and one 'master' with a list of authoritative checksums) would make sense, as it fulfils the security aspect well while avoiding the problem of db/package mismatch. The 'master' db would have to have a history of previous checksums as well. One possible alternative to explicitly storing a history of checksums is to checksum the dbfile, and name it as such. instead of core.db.tar.gz, you'd have have core.[checksum].db.tar.gz and these would be stored for some time on the master. In order to make it secure the standard checksums would have to be upgraded to something with less collisions than md5. Of-course this also raises the question of 'what happens when the master goes down?'. I'm following this topic, and I a bit with Qadri. I think it should be/stay the responsibility of the user. My solution to get up-to-the-minute packages is very simple: -put ftp.archlinux.org on top of the mirrorlist -do pacman -Sy -comment ftp.archlinux.org out of the mirrorlist -do pacman -Su And then it goes through the list of servers for the latest packages. Change the way how the mirrors and how updating works is unnecessary IMHO. ftp.archlinux.org is technically a mirror and is not even the most up to date mirror most of the time... Ok, good to know that than. Could anyone point me to most up to date mirror maybe, so my solution would be successful? Or is that the problem we're discussing in this topic? The servers below seem to be stay very up-to-date according to https://www.archlinux.de/?page=MirrorStatus ftp://mirror.giantix-server.de/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/archlinux/ -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde jer...@xprsyrslf.be http://xprsyrslf.be How to set up a cheap professional hosting @ XprsYrslf.be See my latest work: www.jhdeput.be
Re: [arch-general] Making pacman check multiple repos
On 12/13/2009 10:02 AM, Nathan Wayde wrote: On 13/12/09 08:48, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 03:31 -0500, Qadri wrote: So should it be a function of the program to make sure that happens? Or is a responsibility of the user? Should the functionality be programmed into pacman to make sure that happens, or should we be asking that users be aware of what repos they're using? Well said, I agree. I believe that if separate db and package downloads are implemented it should not be so users can be 'up-to-the-minute' in packages, but for greater security. In fact, now that I think about it, having two dbs (one on the mirror with all packages as available on that mirror and one 'master' with a list of authoritative checksums) would make sense, as it fulfils the security aspect well while avoiding the problem of db/package mismatch. The 'master' db would have to have a history of previous checksums as well. One possible alternative to explicitly storing a history of checksums is to checksum the dbfile, and name it as such. instead of core.db.tar.gz, you'd have have core.[checksum].db.tar.gz and these would be stored for some time on the master. In order to make it secure the standard checksums would have to be upgraded to something with less collisions than md5. Of-course this also raises the question of 'what happens when the master goes down?'. I'm following this topic, and I a bit with Qadri. I think it should be/stay the responsibility of the user. My solution to get up-to-the-minute packages is very simple: -put ftp.archlinux.org on top of the mirrorlist -do pacman -Sy -comment ftp.archlinux.org out of the mirrorlist -do pacman -Su And then it goes through the list of servers for the latest packages. Change the way how the mirrors and how updating works is unnecessary IMHO. -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde jer...@xprsyrslf.be http://xprsyrslf.be How to set up a cheap professional hosting @ XprsYrslf.be See my latest work: www.jhdeput.be
Re: [arch-general] go-openoffice not opening templates - anybody else?
On 12/10/2009 01:00 PM, Magnus Therning wrote: 2009/12/10 Ng Oon-Ee: On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 04:13 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote: Guys, I had to uninstall go-openoffice today and install the regular (beta) version so my templates would open again. When I would try and open them in go-oo, the window would open like it was trying to open the template, then the window would just disappear. Has anyone else had a problem with go-oo and templates? Yes, I have. Posted a forum topic about it. No real response (wonder how many people actually use OO regularly). Am running the beta currently due to that. Ah, does the beta open templates properly? I ended up running OO in Windows, just to open the template and save it as a regular document... this doc then opened find in Linux and I could carry on there. /M I use go-oo, but don't use template. You could send me one privately so I can confirm. -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde jer...@xprsyrslf.be http://xprsyrslf.be How to set up a cheap professional hosting @ XprsYrslf.be See my latest work: www.jhdeput.be
Re: [arch-general] peaceful suggestion to clarify "the arch way" to avoid this to happen AGAIN
On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 00:08:29 +0100, Arvid Picciani wrote: Please, can we stop beating it now, and just officialy tell minimalists to fuck off so everyone can stop wasting their time? I've been following this thread off an on. Great to see you having an opinion and standing up for it, the same for everyone else. As I understand from above part, you just would be happy with a fuck off, right? Well, Fuck off if you think about minimalism in a way like you do. It is obviously not the same as the most in the Arch community understands it. Now you've got a fuck off and you can stop wasting your time. The Arch way in the wiki are just words, you have to become part of the community to really understand it. -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde jer...@xprsyrslf.be http://xprsyrslf.be How to set up a cheap professional website @ XprsYrslf.be
Re: [arch-general] MUA
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:20:06 +0100, Arvid Picciani wrote: Sergej Pupykin wrote: Arvid Picciani wrote: Mutt grows old and still doesn't do threads the way i want. i've tried sup, but find it too early in development. Especcially it is unusable slow. Can somone recommend another MUA? thanks emacs/gnus emacs/wanderlust ? humm.. i didn't know emacs has... oh well i should have known, should i? :D thanks. I use Alpine when working from console, it has some thread support. For the rest of the time, I'm happy with Opera doing the job. -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde jer...@xprsyrslf.be http://xprsyrslf.be Ps: Check the new design for my website: XprsYrslf.be
Re: [arch-general] CUPS won't detect my usb printer
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:13:36 +0100, Chris Bannister wrote: Do you have usblp loaded? lsmod | grep usblp 2009/11/15 Jim Burton : I've installed cups, ghostscript, gsfonts and gutenprint and blacklisted usblp. Read again ;-) I've had the same problem a few weeks ago, it works now but I don't know what I've changed back then. Check the CUPS page on Arch Wiki, there must be something about udev rules that helped me out. I'll check tomorrow when I have access to my print server! -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde jer...@xprsyrslf.be http://xprsyrslf.be Ps: Check the new design for my website: XprsYrslf.be
Re: [arch-general] google wave
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:17:14 +0100, wrote: On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:08:53 +0300 Artyom Smirnov wrote: On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:01 PM, wrote: > On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:33:56 +0300 > Artyom Smirnov wrote: > Thanks for viral marketing. As I know, invited peoples can't invite others, so this is not "viral marketing" :) Doesn't matter who can actually invite, people jumping around, screaming "Me, me, me wants to get invited!" is just gross. And I'd have probably never heard of whatever this is otherwise. This is 'Pathetic', not 'Viral Marketing' -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde jer...@xprsyrslf.be http://xprsyrslf.be Ps: Check the new design for my website: XprsYrslf.be
Re: [arch-general] Can't Install GRUB on a GPT Formatted Disk
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:19:05 +0200, Aaron Schaefer wrote: On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Dan McGee wrote: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10639 Thanks! I've applied that updated patch, and GRUB seems to install okay, but when I boot I don't get the standard GRUB menu, I just get dropped into the GRUB console...my menu.lst looks like this: # (0) Arch Linux title Arch Linux root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz26 root=/dev/mapper/system_vg-root_lv ro initrd /kernel26.img I'm a little confused on the root declarations...I'm assuming the root (hd0,0) should be pointing to the actual /boot partition, and then the root kernel parameter points to the actual / partition (in this case an LVM partition), correct? -- Aaron "ElasticDog" Schaefer Seems correct, but you explain it a little confusing. I hope the example clears some things my grub: # (0) Arch Linux title Arch Linux root (hd0,0) #kernel /vmlinuz26 root=/dev/sda3 init=/sbin/bootchartd ro vga=865 kernel /vmlinuz26 root=/dev/sda3 ro vga=865 initrd /kernel26.img my 'df -h': FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3 15G 8.7G 5.4G 62% / none 1001M 208K 1001M 1% /dev none 1001M 12K 1001M 1% /dev/shm /dev/sda1 38M 5.9M 31M 17% /boot /dev/sda4 94G 73G 16G 83% /home (ps: Hi everybody, I'm new on the list, this is my first post) -- Jeroen Op 't Eynde jer...@xprsyrslf.be http://xprsyrslf.be
