Re: [arch-general] ftp.gigabit.nu / ftp.archlinux.se shutting down
* We recommend all of you to switch to a distribution caring about user security and atleast signs their packages. Most RPM and APT based distros does this (Ubuntu, Debian, RedHat, CentOS, SuSE, OpenSuSE, etc etc etc). -- LOL does he think any of us are actually going to switch to one of the above distros..? Although nothing wrong with them, used them all for desktops and still for servers..
Re: [arch-general] synergy-plus
Synergy-plus works great! Use it at work with Win7 as the server and Arch as the client.. one keyboard and mouse yahoo - Original Message From: Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org To: arch-general@archlinux.org Cc: Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR) aur-gene...@archlinux.org Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 3:18:12 AM Subject: Re: [arch-general] synergy-plus On 02/06/10 17:10, Jeroen Op 't Eynde wrote: On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 02:48:08 +0200, Caleb Cushing xenoterrac...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose this could be filed as a bug... but since extra/synergy has long been unmaintained upstream. I recently found a fork http://code.google.com/p/synergy-plus/ for which there is already a pkgbuild on AUR. perhaps we should consider relegating the original synergy to AUR and moving synergy-plus into extra (or community) I'm not a Synergy user atm, but this would be a good deal! +1 from me. Seems a good candidate for [community] to me. If a TU puts it there, I can relegate the original to the AUR. Allan
Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?
- Original Message From: Kaiting Chen kaitocr...@gmail.com To: General Discussion about Arch Linux arch-general@archlinux.org Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 9:50:24 AM Subject: Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim? Hey just want to jump in here and say that I don't think it's a problem in communication. We like Linux and especially Arch because it lets us do what we want, and with power comes responsibility. That responsibility means that one should do a kernel of research before asking for help. In this case it took me less than a second to Google for 'arch vim gvim' and see that the first item on the list was the news announce about the updated packages. You can't have power without responsibility; I need the flexibility of Arch to maintain a small cluster that combines security, centralized administration, as well as the cutting edge software necessary for a testbed, so I am willing to put some time into my system administration. I'm not saying that everyone needs to invest that much time into maintaining their systems, but if you can't be bothered to enter three keywords into Google you really shouldn't be using Arch. Kaiting. --- Well said sir. On another note, I have seen some of David's postings where he was really trying to help people, e.g., his notes on setting up Apache etc from quite awhile back - he does seem to post a lot, and honestly I did start not paying attention to a lot of them, but I think he is a good guy, and we should be careful not to alienate users. Yes, while most of everything that has been said is true, everyone should remember that tone is very important and often reveals much more than the underlying factual content of what is attempting to be conveyed, even (or sometimes moreso) in textual conversation. I understand that this sort of tone may be warranted, but I think at this point (hopefully), he gets it. Keeping the tone positive I think is a good thing guys. -Jonathan
Re: [arch-general] Dedicated Arch servers
Dude relax - I was offering you the services of the company I work for. However, I far from own the company, I am just a tech. Even so, I didn't feel it was appropriate to respond to the mailing list. Sorry that offended you so much. Spamming you? Absolutely not sir. I am a proud arch user is all- I don't sit here reading thru the Arch list skimming for opportuniites, I just felt like it would be more appropriate to respond to you directly. If that is against the mailing list rules I shaint do it again. - Original Message From: Sam Harada s...@peasantoid.org To: Jonathan Brown jbs...@yahoo.com Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 1:22:18 AM Subject: Re: [arch-general] Dedicated Arch servers On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:26:12AM -0700, Jonathan Brown wrote: I am a NOC technician at a data center- I will install it for you if you like- We have some pretty good deals on servers email sdod...@sagonet.com and tell him what kind of dedicated server you are looking for and he'll give you a good deal- Be sure to tell him that Jon B. recommended you contact him and that I said I will install Arch Linux on the server and that there won't be any extra charge to install that OS Bear in mind, we do try to help our unmanaged dedicated server customers as much as possible with software issues etc and anything else that we can up to a point (meaning if it gets intensive we will usually have to charge ATS etc), but we don't really support Arch, and I'm the only one there with experience with Arch.. so it would truly be unmanaged, unless you happen to catch me as your support technician when you open a support ticket.. That being said - get a dedicated server from us and I'll gladly throw Arch on there for ya! (I honestly think out of our 5000+ servers, there is not ONE with Arch .. lol) You probably should have responded to arch-general@archlinux.org rather than my address. Either that or you're spamming me. Please don't. Protip: Make your email client respect the Reply-To header.
Re: [arch-general] Dedicated Arch servers
Thanks a lot Peter. Appreciate the support. Truly, I had absolutely no inkling that there was anything wrong about emailing him directly. It just didn't feel quite right to reply to the ML is all. My intent was actually the opposite of what he thought I was doing; What I didn't want to do was have the whole ML see a clearly biased recommendation, which might have actually seemed like spam if I had done that. In fact, I was rather stunned by his response, and that is why I replied to it via the ML; I actually wanted to get a take from others on the list to see if what I did was uncouth. I just thought it would be cool to finally do an install with Arch like I said I don't think we have any servers with Arch on them- anyway, that will be my last conversation with him, given that he apparently thinks I'm some sort of Arch-list-lurker-spammer dude.. Regards, Jon - Original Message From: Peter Cannon dick_tur...@archlinux.us To: arch-general@archlinux.org Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 6:50:43 AM Subject: Re: [arch-general] Dedicated Arch servers On 20/03/10 09:13, Jonathan Brown wrote: Dude relax - I was offering you the services of the company I work for. However, I far from own the company, I am just a tech. Even so, I didn't feel it was appropriate to respond to the mailing list. Sorry that offended you so much. Spamming you? Absolutely not sir. I am a proud arch user is all- I don't sit here reading thru the Arch list skimming for opportuniites, I just felt like it would be more appropriate to respond to you directly. If that is against the mailing list rules I shaint do it again. Hi Jonathan You can email me directly any time you like. People should learn what 'spam' is, spam is not just unsolicited e.g it was not asked for, but also usually offers a product or service you was not really looking for. Clearly this is not the case on both levels. As far as I'm aware your action was correct in offering a service off-list. While in some groups it is perfectly acceptable to give prices and promote company's others frown on it. As the request was subjected Dedicated Arch servers I take the view someone is looking to purchase a service. Take Care
Re: [arch-general] Dedicated Arch servers
Actually, it appears I emailed the wrong person directly. Sam was not the originator of the Dedicated Arch servers thread. My apologies Sam. - Original Message From: Jonathan Brown jbs...@yahoo.com To: dick_tur...@archlinux.us; General Discussion about Arch Linux arch-general@archlinux.org Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 10:35:42 AM Subject: Re: [arch-general] Dedicated Arch servers Thanks a lot Peter. Appreciate the support. Truly, I had absolutely no inkling that there was anything wrong about emailing him directly. It just didn't feel quite right to reply to the ML is all. My intent was actually the opposite of what he thought I was doing; What I didn't want to do was have the whole ML see a clearly biased recommendation, which might have actually seemed like spam if I had done that. In fact, I was rather stunned by his response, and that is why I replied to it via the ML; I actually wanted to get a take from others on the list to see if what I did was uncouth. I just thought it would be cool to finally do an install with Arch like I said I don't think we have any servers with Arch on them- anyway, that will be my last conversation with him, given that he apparently thinks I'm some sort of Arch-list-lurker-spammer dude.. Regards, Jon - Original Message From: Peter Cannon dick_tur...@archlinux.us To: arch-general@archlinux.org Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 6:50:43 AM Subject: Re: [arch-general] Dedicated Arch servers On 20/03/10 09:13, Jonathan Brown wrote: Dude relax - I was offering you the services of the company I work for. However, I far from own the company, I am just a tech. Even so, I didn't feel it was appropriate to respond to the mailing list. Sorry that offended you so much. Spamming you? Absolutely not sir. I am a proud arch user is all- I don't sit here reading thru the Arch list skimming for opportuniites, I just felt like it would be more appropriate to respond to you directly. If that is against the mailing list rules I shaint do it again. Hi Jonathan You can email me directly any time you like. People should learn what 'spam' is, spam is not just unsolicited e.g it was not asked for, but also usually offers a product or service you was not really looking for. Clearly this is not the case on both levels. As far as I'm aware your action was correct in offering a service off-list. While in some groups it is perfectly acceptable to give prices and promote company's others frown on it. As the request was subjected Dedicated Arch servers I take the view someone is looking to purchase a service. Take Care
Re: [arch-general] First install of gnome on Arch, pretty cool... (new artwork this time :-)
Cool artwork David.. Nicely done. - Original Message From: David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com To: Arch Linux arch-general@archlinux.org Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 2:25:25 AM Subject: [arch-general] First install of gnome on Arch, pretty cool... (new artwork this time :-) Guys, Looking at the new desktop, I just had to take a screenshot and share. I never install gnome, but since I had enlightenment installed and a bunch of bits and pieces of gnome installed -- Why not? Working with it for a short period of time, I was quite pleased with it. Compiz works great with it, dark themes work as well. The base install is really crisp like kde3 was. (but like any desktop, you load it down with enough bells and whistles it slows down a bit) Long story short, I created a new cube cap for Arch (since it was pointed out my first set was of the old logo) and when done, I just had to send the screenshot in, so: (82k) http://www.3111skyline.com/download/ss/arch/archGnomeCompiz.jpg The Artwork for the caps: (108k) http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/compiz/archCaps.png If you like the artwork, use it at will... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
Re: [arch-general] google wave
Thanks!! Sorry for the delayed response.. Yahoo mail has been down... I will return invites to Archers who want one for sure!!! - Original Message From: Artyom Smirnov smirnof...@gmail.com To: General Discusson about Arch Linux arch-general@archlinux.org Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 9:45:42 AM Subject: Re: [arch-general] google wave On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Jonathan Brown jbs...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all, I know this is off-topic, but does anyone have a google wave invite that they just don't know who to give to? :) If so, I'm a bit desparate to try it out! Would be much appreciated and I would return the favor to others! jbs...@gmail.com --Jon Just got another 12 invites in my account. Sending one to you. -- Artyom
Re: [arch-general] google wave
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:08:53 +0300 Artyom Smirnov smirnof...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:01 PM, hollun...@gmx.at wrote: On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:33:56 +0300 Artyom Smirnov smirnof...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for viral marketing. As I know, invited peoples can't invite others, so this is not viral marketing :) Doesn't matter who can actually invite, people jumping around, screaming Me, me, me wants to get invited! is just gross. And I'd have probably never heard of whatever this is otherwise. This is 'Pathetic', not 'Viral Marketing' -- --- There is the option of just ignoring messages in your arch-general box that are entitled Re: [arch-general] google wave, and sparing us your negative attitudes...
Re: [arch-general] google wave
- Original Message From: Mike Perry m...@serensilver.co.uk To: General Discusson about Arch Linux arch-general@archlinux.org Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 12:07:00 PM Subject: Re: [arch-general] google wave In the lecture video on the Google wave site, they seemed quite keen on the idea of releasing the server code open source, so you will be able to run your own wave server that you can if you choose connect to the main Google servers to syndicate waves with non local people. But all local waves remain local. I was very pleased to hear that. Mike P.S. If someone has another spare invite, I would very much appreciate being able to have a play. :) - Looks like someone's already done it: http://wavety.com/pygo-wave-server/
[arch-general] google wave
Hi all, I know this is off-topic, but does anyone have a google wave invite that they just don't know who to give to? :) If so, I'm a bit desparate to try it out! Would be much appreciated and I would return the favor to others! jbs...@gmail.com --Jon
Re: [arch-general] Netbook recommendations
I am awaiting UPS delivery today of a Samsung NC10-14GB .. top of the line apparently.. look at the amazon and newegg reviews.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834131015cm_re=nc10-14gb-_-34-131-015-_-Product http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-NC10-14GB-10-2-Inch-Blue-Netbook/dp/B001I45TA8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1254160461sr=8-1 I bought it from jr.com for $339/free shipping - they still have it in stock... amazon's got it for $345 free shipping - Original Message From: Dan McGee dpmc...@gmail.com To: General Discusson about Arch Linux arch-general@archlinux.org Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 1:33:32 PM Subject: Re: [arch-general] Netbook recommendations On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: So in the next few weeks, I would like to buy a netbook. The market is saturated, so I'd like to ask for some advice here. What do you guys think of the current offerings? What's considered the best now-a-days? What kinds of netbooks do Arch users have? /me is also awaiting responses, I plan on getting one in the next few weeks as well
Re: [arch-general] Conflict with Mesa
I just added mesa to my ignore line in pacman.conf for now, so that I can get the rest of the updates... :) I'm sure most people have already thought of doing that, but for those that have not, maybe that will help.. From: Dario carotin...@yahoo.it To: arch-general@archlinux.org Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2009 7:39:31 AM Subject: Re: [arch-general] Conflict with Mesa Hi! I had the same conflict but nothing depended on glew, no idea why it was installed. That's one fix :) Here Glew is required by Koffice. ciao! Carotinho Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [arch-general] Conflict with Mesa
yes that is better thank you - Original Message From: marc[i1] mar...@archlinux.fr To: General Discusson about Arch Linux arch-general@archlinux.org Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2009 10:59:36 AM Subject: Re: [arch-general] Conflict with Mesa Le samedi 5 septembre 2009, Jonathan Brown a écrit : I just added mesa to my ignore line in pacman.conf for now, so that I can get the rest of the updates... :) # pacman -Syu --ignore libdrm for temporary problem, it may be the best way. -- + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + + (o -! marc[i1] + + //\ http://archlinux.fr+ + \\/_ Linux for Free Generation + + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +
Re: [arch-general] how to migrate installs between hard drives?
Yes I would dd (or ddrescue or dd_rescue - the rescues give you progress output) the whole drive, not the individual partitions. Then just use Parted Magic Live CD or GParted Live CD and expand the partitions. I've done this many many times without issue.. and usually you don't even have to repair grub afterwards... Another solution is using Clonezilla (use disk to local disk), (which I think might even have a switch to expand at the same time but I've never used that option) and then use Parted Magic Live CD which has Gparted in it to expand. BTW Parted Magic Live CD has Clonezilla as well so it's really all you need (I'm sure all the dd tools are on it too) -Jon - Original Message From: Will Siddall will.sidd...@gmail.com To: General Discusson about Arch Linux arch-general@archlinux.org Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:22:08 PM Subject: Re: [arch-general] how to migrate installs between hard drives? And Solstice, I understand your point but everything else hasn't worked for me yet. I'm going to do a dd on the whole disk tonight and try a workaround. Thanks again everyone
Re: [arch-general] dmraid disk failure - howto rebuild new disk - gparted hates Me :-(
Thanks for the explanation/clarification. Keep up the good work! - Original Message From: David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com To: General Discusson about Arch Linux arch-general@archlinux.org Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:48:47 AM Subject: Re: [arch-general] dmraid disk failure - howto rebuild new disk - gparted hates Me :-( Jonathan Brown wrote: Nice write-up.. I've never used hardware raid.. always just software raid1, but was never actually aware of all the inherent advantages software (md) raid has over the (dm) hardware raid that you spoke of. Very good information as always sir. Thanks -- aside from all my weary typos in it ;-) dmraid isn't hardware raid. It, like md raid, is software raid. There are not really any disadvantages to using it over md raid. I use both. If I would have looked further into my raid bios's ability to rebuild before I set this box up, I would have used mdraid instead. With this drive failure, the only issue was tracking down what needed to be done to accommodate the device mapper label change. The fix itself was a 2 minute fix and like I said, with some hardware, you are given the opportunity to rebuild from the good disk before you even boot the machine which is an advantage a pure mdraid setup doesn't have. (I know my Gigabyte and Tyan boards will let you rebuild and I think my older MSI boards will do it as well) Both dmraid and mdraid are fantastic raid solutions. You hear people bad-mouth software raid all the time, and the criticisms are unfounded. The read/write performance penalty is virtually 0 on any machine faster than a 486 and the benefit from a raid setup is definitely worth the effort. Sure, if you want to drop $250 - $500 on a hardware controller, there is nothing wrong with that, but if you just want the protections offered by a mirrored raid setup and the box you are setting up is serving less than a few dozen workstation clients, software raid is fine. Now any raid setup isn't a substitute for backups (including an off-site copy), but it does save a whole lot of time when a disk goes bad. In my case S.M.A.R.T. alerted to the drive failing and I was able to replace the disk before any data was lost. The dm label change was just another 'learning experience' that now will not present any hassle should another disk fail in the future. The real learning here was how poor the raid bios features have gotten on MSI boards. Even on what was one of the high-end boards. Oh well, back up and rocking with that box. Spinning 2 500G drives in Raid1 on the first array and spinning 2 750G drives in Raid1 in the second. The amazing part is that in todays world we are able to pack 1.25 terabytes of Raid1 storage in a PC for less than $250 in drive costs. Ten years ago, that would have cost a small fortune. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
Re: [arch-general] Issue with system time
you could also try setting the hardware clock to the system time with # hwclock --systohc - Original Message From: Dan Vratil prog...@progdansoft.com To: General Discusson about Arch Linux arch-general@archlinux.org Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 5:34:17 PM Subject: [arch-general] Issue with system time Hi, in last few weeks I noticed a serious (for me) problem with my system. It simply does not update the date/time after boot up. In BIOS the time is correct, but when I boot Linux, the system time is set exactly to time when I turned it off last time. It's quite annoying to always have to set up the time manually. In rc.conf I have HARDWARECLOCK set to localtime and Time Zone to Europe/Prague. I was trying to set automatic time sync in KDE System Settings, but it fails to connect to time server. I use KDE 4.2.70, so it might be bug there, but it does not bother me, the main problem is that my system refuses to update (load from BIOS?) time after boot up. Any ideas? Thank you very much Dan -- - Dan Vrátil prog...@progdansoft.com ICQ 249163429 Jabber prog...@jabber.cz Tel. +420 732 326 870
Re: [arch-general] General Linux Server Information Available
Very nice- btw are you related to Kyle Rankin of Linux Journal? - Original Message From: David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com To: Archlinux arch-general@archlinux.org Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:51:51 AM Subject: [arch-general] General Linux Server Information Available Listmates, Just a general point of interest. Over the past 4-5 months, as time permits, I have made an effort to put up a site to capture some of the Linux notes, tips, etc.. that I have squirreled away over the years and make that information available to anyone that it might help. The site is 3111skyline.com and the top-level menu entries of interest are openSuSE Howtos and Linux Tips Tricks. Regardless of the main tab title openSuSE Howtos, there is a bunch of stuff that applies to Linux in general, like the openSuSE Server Setup page, etc.., they are general enough to apply to any distro. Like tonight, I was using that page to setup and secure mysql, etc.. on Arch. The link to the raw information that has not been formatted into web pages is the Linux Download Dirs... link under the Linux Tips Tricks menu. That is just a link to the directories for the website that has +Indexes enabled so you can just pick around and browse. There is a fairly cool collection of wallpapers, etc. in the directories that are not listed in the menus. Additionally, the complete 3-Column layout for the website itself has been packaged and made available for anyone who has thought about setting up a site themselves and wants a go-by to use to see how things work or to tear apart and take the useful/interesting parts from. All of the information is available under GPL3 (except for family photos, etc. that should be secured), so if any of the information would be useful to add to the Arch wiki, feel free to grab it and just copy and paste it to the wiki. I will try to add useful information to the Arch wiki, as time permits. Right now the site is hosted/mirrored on two openSuSE boxes sitting in my house. (I just change the external routing between the two depending on which one I am working on at the time) I am working to get my Arch install up and running on one of the boxes, so as soon as I pick through the apache configs and get apache and ssl configured on the Arch box, the site will be hosted there. That's it. No questions in this post. Just hopefully some help for anyone that can use some of the information I have squirreled away;-) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
Re: [arch-general] Corruption with new intel driver
what if the problem may not be the intel or nvidia drivers, but the way all of those drivers might be interplaying with the latest new xorg? Because I am seeing significant slowdowns in my X environment overall with the new xorg (I use xfce), and my use the nvidia driver. - Original Message From: János Illés ija...@gmail.com To: General Discusson about Arch Linux arch-general@archlinux.org Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 5:13:46 PM Subject: Re: [arch-general] Corruption with new intel driver On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 22:51, Nicolas Bigaouette nbigaoue...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I just fully upgraded on two of my machines. These packages related to xorg were updated: Unfortunately, I am facing some screen corruptions, as seen on this screenshot: http://nbigaouette.inrs-emt.homelinux.net/linux/arch/xf86_video_intel_corruption.png this happens for me too with intel-legacy driver and QT4 apps. -- IJ
[arch-general] latest xorg- significant slowdown
Hi all Upon updating to the latest xorg/nvidia (Xfce), and rebooting, X seems to take about 4 times as long to start, and programs seem to take about 2-3 times as long to start up. Anyone else having similar issues? Not really sure how to run any metrics on this, but X is now significantly slower, including noticeable delays in switching between apps/windows.. I can even tell that weechat in urxvt is slower. -Jon
Re: [arch-general] latest xorg- significant slowdown
Sergey I'm using 1.6.0-3 - Original Message From: Sergey Manucharian serg...@rmico.com To: arch-general@archlinux.org Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 6:48:51 PM Subject: Re: [arch-general] latest xorg- significant slowdown On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Jonathan Brown jbs...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all Upon updating to the latest xorg/nvidia (Xfce), and rebooting, X seems to take about 4 times as long to start, and programs seem to take about 2-3 times as long to start up. Anyone else having similar issues? Not really sure how to run any metrics on this, but X is now significantly slower, including noticeable delays in switching between apps/windows.. I can even tell that weechat in urxvt is slower. Jon, do you mean xorg 1.6 under the latest or still 1.5.x? For me the most noticeable slowdown with my xorg 1.5.3 happens with wine - (maybe) twice slower than before... Cheers, Sergey
