Re: [arch-general] Upgrade finish in a Kernel Panic - not syncing : no init found

2013-03-27 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 16:33:53 +0100
Dany De Bontridder dany...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Thomas Bächler
 tho...@archlinux.org wrote:
  Am 22.03.2013 23:00, schrieb Dany De Bontridder:
  Today,  everything works fine and I decide to keep my PC
  up-to-date, so I run pacman -Syu and I get a message when trying
  to boot
 
   *** Kernel Panic - not syncing : No init found. ***
 
I have actually seen that self same message myself  here  when i had a
dying Hard Drive ..



  That is actually an impossible error message. It is only printed
  when 1) no initramfs or an invalid initramfs is attached
   2) the kernel manages to mount the root partition
   3) no init binary is found


Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] nouveau or kernel which one ?

2013-03-09 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Fri, 8 Mar 2013 07:37:31 +0800
GSC xgd...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can install nvidia and see if that hangs.

Hi ..

Been busy a few days .

Right i am now using  the nvidia driver it is even worse with that 6
mins of tv locked up solid  any moving video instigates a lock up power
button is the only way out .

This is all i get  in the log now ..that seems linked to the problem 

Mar 09 21:15:16 7-of-9 kernel: NVRM: Xid (:01:00): 6, PE0003 
Mar 09 21:17:19 7-of-9 kernel: NVRM: Xid (:01:00): 13, 0003
 8597 16b0  000c Mar 09 21:18:28 7-of-9
kernel: NVRM: Xid (:01:00): 6, PE0003 Mar 09 21:20:10 7-of-9
kernel: NVRM: Xid (:01:00): 6, PE0003 Mar 09 21:20:35 7-of-9
kernel: NVRM: Xid (:01:00): 6, PE0003 Mar 09 21:20:46 7-of-9
kernel: NVRM: Xid (:01:00): 6, PE0003 


Pete 
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[arch-general] nouveau or kernel which one ?

2013-03-07 Thread P .NIKOLIC
Hi for the last 3 kernels i have been getting  errors and hangs that
ultimately end in a completely frozen system 

this is the error that appears in the in the log 
 
Mar 07 11:00:43 7-of-9 kernel: nouveau  [   PFIFO][:01:00.0]
DMA_PUSHER - Ch 4 Get 0xfc Put 0xf8 IbGet 0x01fe
IbPut 0x01ff State 0xc0040022 (err: MEM_FAULT) Push 0x00400040 Mar
07 11:45:27 7-of-9 kernel: nouveau  [   PFIFO][:01:00.0] DMA_PUSHER
- Ch 2 Get 0x002002893c Put 0x0020029774 IbGet 0x035a IbPut
0x035b State 0x80004861 (err: INVALID_CMD) Push 0x00400040 Mar 07
11:54:36 7-of-9 kernel: nouveau  [   PFIFO][:01:00.0] DMA_PUSHER -
Ch 4 Get 0xfc Put 0xf8 IbGet 0x0237 IbPut
0x0238 State 0xc0040022 (err: MEM_FAULT) Push 0x00400040 Mar 07
12:00:14 7-of-9 kernel: nouveau  [   PFIFO][:01:00.0] DMA_PUSHER -
Ch 2 Get 0x002002bd20 Put 0x002002bd80 IbGet 0x02ff IbPut
0x0300 State 0xc020 (err: MEM_FAULT) Push 0x00400040 Mar 07
12:16:33 7-of-9 kernel: nouveau  [   PFIFO][:01:00.0] DMA_PUSHER -
Ch 2 Get 0x002002d538 Put 0x002002d554 IbGet 0x0243 IbPut
0x0244 State 0x8314 (err: INVALID_CMD) Push 0x00400040 Mar 07
12:21:09 7-of-9 kernel: nouveau  [   PFIFO][:01:00.0] DMA_PUSHER -
Ch 2 Get 0x0020035140 Put 0x002003af14 IbGet 0x0362 IbPut
0x0365 State 0x80004861 (err: INVALID_CMD) Push 0x00400040 Mar 07
12:25:06 7-of-9 kernel: nouveau  [   PFIFO][:01:00.0] DMA_PUSHER -
Ch 2 Get 0x0020030ad4 Put 0x0020030b8c IbGet 0x01bc IbPut
0x01bf State 0xc020 (err: MEM_FAULT) Push 0x00400040 Mar 07
12:25:42 7-of-9 kernel: nouveau  [   PFIFO][:01:00.0] DMA_PUSHER -
Ch 2 Get 0x0020037348 Put 0x0020037e78 IbGet 0x035a IbPut
0x035b State 0xc0004861 (err: MEM_FAULT) Push 0x00400040 Mar 07
13:02:36 7-of-9 kernel: delay: estimated 192, actual 0 Mar 07 13:04:22
7-of-9 kernel: nouveau  [   PFIFO][:01:00.0] DMA_PUSHER - Ch 4 Get
0x00200d4984 Put 0x00200d4d1c IbGet 0x0250 IbPut 0x0251 State
0x8000745c (err: INVALID_CMD) Push 0x00400040 Mar 07 13:04:22 7-of-9
kernel: nouveau E[  PGRAPH][:01:00.0] DATA_ERROR INVALID_BITFIELD
Mar 07 13:04:22 7-of-9 kernel: nouveau  [  PGRAPH][:01:00.0]
DATA_ERROR Mar 07 13:04:22 7-of-9 kernel: nouveau
E[  PGRAPH][:01:00.0] ch 4 [0x003f96e000] subc 3 class 0x8597 mthd
0x1458 data 0x Mar 07 13:04:22 7-of-9 kernel: nouveau
E[ PFB][:01:00.0] trapped read at 0x00 on channel
0x0003f96e PFIFO/PFIFO_READ/PUSHBUF reason: PT_NOT_PRESENT Mar 07
13:11:59 7-of-9 kernel: nouveau  [   PFIFO][:01:00.0] DMA_PUSHER -
Ch 2 Get 0x0020008fe4 Put 0x0020008ff8 IbGet 0x0327 IbPut
0x0329 State 0x8064 (err: INVALID_CMD) Push 0x00400040 Mar 07
13:11:59 7-of-9 kernel: nouveau  [   PFIFO][:01:00.0] CACHE_ERROR -
Ch 2/0 Mthd 0x0060 Data 0x


at present running   KDE 4.10.1 kernel 3.7.10-1  4Gb ram currently
running with 2.56Gib free memory
video card is a GeForce GT220 @1Gb memory.
Twin monitors USB external sound card (onboard card is pants)

New install middle of January


Thanks Pete .


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[arch-general] kde login delays

2013-02-25 Thread P .NIKOLIC
Hi all.

Having a strange problem right now with logging into KDE  the latest
4.10.00  the system is right up to date  pacman -Syu carried out every
day 

When i try to login to kde the moment i enter the first letter of the
pass word it refuses to take any more input for almost 5 seconds   then
all is back to normal  .

Any ideas please

Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] Systemd 196-2 new install 100%cpu usage

2013-01-13 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:06:18 -0600
Leonid Isaev lis...@umail.iu.edu wrote:

 On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 20:35:42 +
 P .NIKOLIC p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
  
  Hi .
  
  Just had to completely rebuild the system  using the latest ISO  .
  
  I am now getting CPU usage of 100% on 1 core  
  
  143 root 20 0  721m 131m 22m R 00.0 2.1 16:30.31 systemd-journal
  is the line from top 
  
  systemd version 196-2 all the latest updates .
  
  Journal --verify reports  file corruption detected
  at /var/log/journal/dir-name/system.journal:87210024 (of94937088,
  91%)
  
  Any help as it makes the system way slow when loading any
  documents .
  
  Pete .
  
  
 
 Well, the easiest solution is to do rm -vfr /var/log/journal/*,
 restart systemd-journald.service, and daemon-reexec systemd. I would
 personally skip last 2 steps and simply reboot... Of course, the
 price is the lost system logs.
 

Hi Leonid 

Right i had already tried that one it just bounces back exactly the
same after the reboot 

This system gets shut down every day when not in use right now  (cost
savings) .

This appeared to happen after running  pacman -Syu yesterday when
Libreoffice was updated along with poppler, qpdf , cups , poppler-qt
it also installed gstreamer , gst-plugins-base-lib , farstream,
telepathy-farstream

Thanks   Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] Systemd 196-2 new install 100%cpu usage

2013-01-13 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:06:18 -0600
Leonid Isaev lis...@umail.iu.edu wrote:

 On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 20:35:42 +
 P .NIKOLIC p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
  
  Hi .
  
  Just had to completely rebuild the system  using the latest ISO  .
  
  I am now getting CPU usage of 100% on 1 core  
  
  143 root 20 0  721m 131m 22m R 00.0 2.1 16:30.31 systemd-journal
  is the line from top 
  
  systemd version 196-2 all the latest updates .
  
  Journal --verify reports  file corruption detected
  at /var/log/journal/dir-name/system.journal:87210024 (of94937088,
  91%)
  
  Any help as it makes the system way slow when loading any
  documents .
  
  Pete .
  
  
 
 Well, the easiest solution is to do rm -vfr /var/log/journal/*,
 restart systemd-journald.service, and daemon-reexec systemd. I would
 personally skip last 2 steps and simply reboot... Of course, the
 price is the lost system logs.
 

Right   the cause has been found it seems cupsd is the cause  i have
page after page of cupsd restarting to quickly complaints  and also
loads of complaints about cupsd crashing  . 

I will reinstall all parts of cups and gather more info i have had to
delete a lot of stuff to regain control of the system .

Pete .
 

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[arch-general] Systemd 196-2 new install 100%cpu usage

2013-01-12 Thread P .NIKOLIC

Hi .

Just had to completely rebuild the system  using the latest ISO  .

I am now getting CPU usage of 100% on 1 core  

143 root 20 0  721m 131m 22m R 00.0 2.1 16:30.31 systemd-journal   is
the line from top 

systemd version 196-2 all the latest updates .

Journal --verify reports  file corruption detected
at /var/log/journal/dir-name/system.journal:87210024 (of94937088, 91%)

Any help as it makes the system way slow when loading any documents .

Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] immediate sleep after resume

2012-11-15 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:37:00 -0800
Curtis Shimamoto sugar.and.scru...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 11/15/12 at 11:18am, Genes MailLists wrote:
  
  
Forgot to mention in original post - it seems well understood that
  the window managers may or may not play nicely with systemd - as to
  who will do power management.
  
If a user is not logged in - it is still nice to have systemd
  sleep system on lid close for example - and for this reason the
  window managers are given the ability to inhibit systemd when they
  are claiming to do the power management. And when they are not, then
  systemd does not get the inhibit. [1]
  
Several window managers, KDE among them are supposed to play
  nice with systemd in this regard.
  
   So, one suggestion some have is not to use KDE at all for this -
  and rely solely on systemd - it is of course less configurable. I
  have not yet tried this approach. This can be done via the same
  login.conf.
  
   It's not a huge deal, as I just press power button to wake it up
  again, but curious what others have found.
  
   gene
  
   [1] I'd rather have a positive than a triple negative
  LidSwitchIgnoreInhibited=no
might be easier to read as
  LidSwitchInhibitIsActive=yes
  
  
  
 
 Personally I just use xautolock, so I don't have to deal with these
 competing systemd.  I just use the native systemd (actually in its
 default form), and it works well.
 
 I was not aware that you were working towards teh goal of having
 systemd actually handle the stuff, as other users typically wanted
 their DE to handle the power management, and have systemd do
 nothing.  This is why I directed you to the man page, in hopes that
 you would find the HandleLidSwitch= setting.  
 
 As far as doing it the way you want, I have heard (though I don't use
 KDE so I have no personal experience) that it's power management does
 not play nicely with this system.  I am not sure what power management
 setups do play nicely, but every KDE user that I have come across all
 ended up just setting HandleLidSwitch=ignore and being done with it.
 
 If you can get your proposed setup working, I would love to hear about
 it.  I do not use said systems, but I still welcome knowledge.
 
 Maybe a DE user can weigh in here. Best of luck.
 
 Regards,

Hi .

Well thou not using a laptop i am using systemd and the latest 
kde 4.9.3   . I use the sleep button on the keyboard (logotech internet
navigator usb)  it all works perfectly  apart from a complaint about
shutting down 3 of the 4 CPU cores  prior to full shutdown

Reboot is almost instant working after approximately 3 seconds 


Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] USB Flash drive problems

2012-11-08 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 19:14:09 -0500
Todd Carnes toddcar...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 07:58:27 +
 P .NIKOLIC p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
  Hi All ..
  
  Well after a little messing now on systemd , And the strange thing
  is that now ALL the usb flash drives i have work  not just the
  older ones but the new SanDisk as well   Explain that one someone .
  
  I think this can be classed as solved right now thanks all 
  
  
  Pete .
 
 But I don't get it. What exactly did you do to solve it? 
 
 Your solution might help others in the future.
 

Well If i knew Exactly i would tell cus it was a real pita it seems it
may have been some outlandish permissions think as i say the only
drives i could not access were these new SanDisk ones .

The problem no longer exists by switching to systemd it went away  on
this machine  but on the laptop Arch linux as well they work perfectly
but i do not keep the laptop as up to date i need that to just work .


Cheers   Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] USB Flash drive problems

2012-11-07 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 07:02:36 +0200
Tom Rand t...@tomsbox.co.uk wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 07:00:43PM +, P .NIKOLIC wrote:
  On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:18:48 +0200
  Tom Rand t...@tomsbox.co.uk wrote:
  
   My son-in-law recently purchased 2 of these  he could not access
   them on PS3 or my arch desktop.
   It turned out they were formatted as EXFAT, he re-formatted as
   NTFS  all was ok for him.
   
   What are yours formatted as?
   
   Also I have had similar issue's in the past  just re-formatted to
   FAT  all was ok.
  
  
  Hi Tom .
  
  Been there using the laptop that is not as upto date  and completely
  redid the partition and formatted one of them vfat  still the same
  on this machine but ok on the laptop  .
  
  I need to keep them vfat as they are actually for use in the car it
  takes mp3's on usb drives (max 4Gb) and only read vfat (and only mp3
  not ogg)
  
  Pete .
  
  
  
  
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 I take it you tried all ports on this machine.
 
 (apologies for the top post earlier)
 
 the only other possible thing i could think of which might cause this
 would be that your mobo is set to use usb 3 only or one of the other
 versions I know some mobo's can be set to one of the 3.
 Either that or some of the ports are not initialised.
 plug the drive in
 run lsusb
 
 this at least will tell you if the drive is visible /or if the usb
 port is initialised.
 

Hi .
 
I believe it may have something to do  with the fact these SanDisk
drives have that U3 security stuff on them  as standard  that was
tripping something up .

But all seems well now 3 written and tested in the car all ok  ( i
cant stand broadcast radio)


Pete .
 

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Re: [arch-general] USB Flash drive problems (SOLVED)

2012-11-06 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 19:00:43 +
P .NIKOLIC p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote:

 On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:18:48 +0200
 Tom Rand t...@tomsbox.co.uk wrote:
 
  My son-in-law recently purchased 2 of these  he could not access
  them on PS3 or my arch desktop.
  It turned out they were formatted as EXFAT, he re-formatted as NTFS
   all was ok for him.
  
  What are yours formatted as?
  
  Also I have had similar issue's in the past  just re-formatted to
  FAT  all was ok.
 
 
 Hi Tom .
 
 Been there using the laptop that is not as upto date  and completely
 redid the partition and formatted one of them vfat  still the same on
 this machine but ok on the laptop  .
 
 I need to keep them vfat as they are actually for use in the car it
 takes mp3's on usb drives (max 4Gb) and only read vfat (and only mp3
 not ogg)
 
 Pete .
 
 
 
 

Replying to ones self .. as in the previous mail 


Now Solved

Pete 


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Re: [arch-general] USB Flash drive problems

2012-11-06 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 15:03:52 -0500
Dave Reisner d...@falconindy.com wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 08:22:33PM +0100, coderkun wrote:
  Am Montag, den 05.11.2012, 18:22 + schrieb P .NIKOLIC:
   How do i check to see if it is systemd or not
  
  $ printf %d `systemd-notify --booted`
 
 systemd-notify doesn't print anything. If you really want to print
 something:
 
 $ systemd-notify --booted  echo booted on systemd
 
 or
 
 $ systemd-notify --booted; echo $?
 
  
  man systemd-notify:
  “[…]
  --booted
  Returns 0 if the system was booted up with systemd, non-zero
  otherwise. […]”
  
 
 Note the returns, not prints.
 
 d

Hi All ..

Well after a little messing now on systemd , And the strange thing is
that now ALL the usb flash drives i have work  not just the older ones
but the new SanDisk as well   Explain that one someone .

I think this can be classed as solved right now thanks all 


Pete .


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[arch-general] USB Flash drive problems

2012-11-05 Thread P .NIKOLIC
Hi .

Just purchased several  SanDisk 4Gb Cruzer Blade USB flash drives  but
can not access any of them . the only error report i can find just says
 
An error occurred while accessing `3.7GiB Removable Media`, the system
responded: An unspecified error has occurred.: Not Authorized

This happens both as user or root  , any other non SanDisk flash drive
is fine  . I was hoping to put music on them for the car as the system
incar can only read 4 Gb Max drives these seemed ideal  look like they
may bee a bummer .

Any tips anyone ..


Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] USB Flash drive problems

2012-11-05 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:40:21 +0100
Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Phoenix Nemo
 phoenix...@archlinuxcn.org wrote:
  Can you use any other flash drives or removable devices? Which
  display manager do you use, and which file manager?
 
  I get this error several times due to added 'ck-launch-session' to
  my $HOME/.xinitrc because my display manager have already support
  this.
 
 Notice that consolekit is no longer supported, and should be removed.
 To get the equivalent functionality you should just boot with systemd.
 I don't know if this is relevant to OP's problem though.
 
 -t

This is possible ..from what i have been reading not too sure  if i
have Systemd running or not  the system is fully updated  .

How do i check to see if it is systemd or not  sorry to sound fick but
got lots of other things on my mind as well right now ..


Thanks Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] USB Flash drive problems

2012-11-05 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:18:48 +0200
Tom Rand t...@tomsbox.co.uk wrote:

 My son-in-law recently purchased 2 of these  he could not access
 them on PS3 or my arch desktop.
 It turned out they were formatted as EXFAT, he re-formatted as NTFS 
 all was ok for him.
 
 What are yours formatted as?
 
 Also I have had similar issue's in the past  just re-formatted to
 FAT  all was ok.


Hi Tom .

Been there using the laptop that is not as upto date  and completely
redid the partition and formatted one of them vfat  still the same on
this machine but ok on the laptop  .

I need to keep them vfat as they are actually for use in the car it
takes mp3's on usb drives (max 4Gb) and only read vfat (and only mp3
not ogg)

Pete .




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Re: [arch-general] USB Flash drive problems

2012-11-05 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 19:42:20 +0100
Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 7:22 PM, P .NIKOLIC
 p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote:
  This is possible ..from what i have been reading not too sure  if i
  have Systemd running or not  the system is fully updated  .
 
 You will not have been converted over automatically. See the wiki for
 how to do that.
 
  How do i check to see if it is systemd or not  sorry to sound fick
  but got lots of other things on my mind as well right now ..
 
 I guess running systemctl should tell you? If you are using systemd
 it will list a lot of running services. Otherwise I assume it will
 return a dbus error (but I haven't tried that myself, so only a
 guess).
 
 -t

Hi Tom ..

Right so a reply of  

Failed to get D-Bus connection: No connection to service manager

i take it means no  

I will start a new thread  i think to get systemd running ..

Pete .



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[arch-general] xf86-video ***

2012-10-14 Thread P .NIKOLIC

Hi .

What is the easiest way to stop pacman trying to update all the 
 xf86-video* drivers for cards i do not have  the system uses the 
xf86-video-nouveau driver perfectly well but tries to install sis ati
sirrus trident and more 

I know about adding files at the command line --exclude  and about
entering a list in pacman.conf  but is there a way that is quicker.


Ta .



Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-23 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 12:42:17 -0400
Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat 22 Sep 2012 15:06 +0200, Thomas Bächler wrote:
  Am 22.09.2012 10:07, schrieb Heiko Baums:
   Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:09:02 +0900
   schrieb Zhengyu Xu xzy3...@gmail.com:
   
   After updating systemd to 191-1 in testing repo, I had following
   messages during booting and the process was stuck (crashed).
  
   [   10.539416] systemd[1]: segfault at 7d ip b75a97b7 sp bfb0ece8
   error 4 in libc-2.16.so[b752a000+1a4000]
   [   10.539700] systemd[1]: Caught SEGV, core dump failed.
  
   Downgrade to 189-4 can solve this problem. I want to know if this
   is a personal problem or a general bug affecting others as well.
   
   Why am I not surprised?
   
   Yes, binary init system is so much better than a script based init
   system. And Poetterix is so damn good, so advanced, such an
   evolution and so much better than the common and over 40 years
   well tested sysvinit.
   
   Come on systemd fanboys, here you have the first example. There's
   more to come. I'll get my popcorn.
  
  After the recent outbreaks, we have been discussing banning people
  from arch-general. At the time, the people we talked about had
  calmed down and everything went back to normal, so there was no
  point in going forward with it. However, your name just made top of
  the list.
  
  If I see you interrupting one more technical discussion with trolls
  and flames, you will be banned indefinitely without further notice.
  I will not see another one week flamewar on this list.
  
  You are a grown man (at least you look like one), so you should know
  that this kind of post adds nothing to the discussion, but starts
  yet another flamewar. Start acting like a grown man and keep it to
  yourself, unless you have something to say that's worth saying.
  
  I am completely against banning people, but at this point, it is
  either banning people or shutting down this list entirely.
 
 I would petition that he be fully banned from all arch lists, forum,
 irc, etc.
 

dev/nulled.



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Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:18:49 +1000
Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote:

 On 22/09/12 18:07, Heiko Baums wrote:
  Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:09:02 +0900
  schrieb Zhengyu Xu xzy3...@gmail.com:
  
  After updating systemd to 191-1 in testing repo, I had following
  messages during booting and the process was stuck (crashed).
 
  [   10.539416] systemd[1]: segfault at 7d ip b75a97b7 sp bfb0ece8
  error 4 in libc-2.16.so[b752a000+1a4000]
  [   10.539700] systemd[1]: Caught SEGV, core dump failed.
 
  Downgrade to 189-4 can solve this problem. I want to know if this
  is a personal problem or a general bug affecting others as well.
  
  Why am I not surprised?
 
 Medical condition?
 
  Yes, binary init system is so much better than a script based init
  system. And Poetterix is so damn good, so advanced, such an
  evolution and so much better than the common and over 40 years well
  tested sysvinit.
  
  Come on systemd fanboys, here you have the first example. There's
  more to come. I'll get my popcorn.
  
 
 Because we have never had unbootable systems due to upgrades in
 [testing] before...  You say sysvinit but that relied on many
 compiled binaries (e.g. bash)
 
 Allan
 

Makes me wonder if this list is populated by the same bunch we get on
the Ham repairs list , Just cant comment and sod off got to keep going
and going flogging dead horses .

For all it matters systemd completely refuses to boot for me do i care
***K as like do i cus i can see it's trash right now so dont use it
leave it at that .


Pete 


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Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 06:26:36 -0300
Martín Cigorraga m...@archlinux.us wrote:

 READ THIS:
 
  please stop trolling on this list.
  this is very disturbing and already resultet in devs unsubscribing
  from this list.
 
 
 
 READ IT AGAIN:
 
 
  please stop trolling on this list.
  this is very disturbing and already resultet in devs unsubscribing
  from this list.
 
 
 
 GOTCHA?
 If you're bored go on and jerk off or anything else that suits you but
 _STOP_ vandalizing this list.

There are a LOT of people far far far worse and a lot more ignorant on
here as well .


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Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:22:06 +0200
Alexandre Ferrando alfer...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 22 September 2012 16:20, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote:
  And, btw., instead of threatening and banning people with different
  opinions you rather should take their criticisms serious and take
  them as an incentive to improve Arch Linux and to make it better
  instead of worse.
 
  Heiko
 
 They're not going to ban anyone for having a different opinion, but
 for trolling.

Please explain just who has trolled .. i saw an opinion about systemd
thats about all ..

Pete 


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Re: [arch-general] / mounted ro after update

2012-09-21 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:26:54 +0100
P .NIKOLIC p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote:

 On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:07:55 +0100
 Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
   all disc ID's are correct  so what has been screwed up this was
   perfect until the update  or am i going to be forced to
   re-install   not an option i look forward to 
  
  A workaround rather than a fix but may help investigate or fix the
  odd machine. Have you tried switching out the
  
  UUID=a1439104-fcea-4c90-b0fb-2340154a9eae for /dev/sda3 in fstab? 
  
Right then lets get back on thread here 

Still with this problem of mounted ro i have been doing a little bit of
messing  and the result is to say the very least strange and out there
somewhere .

Bring the box up init3   all drives mount ok  sda1 sda3  sda4 all
mount rw

bring the machine up with KDM  sda3 and sda4 both show ro but if i do
not actually log into KDE and Ctrl Alt F1 to a text prompt login as
root  mount shows all drives correctly mounted rw  the  Alt F7 log
into KDE then check and the drives have been re  mounted ro

Can someone explain that one cus i am up a gum tree the years i have
been running Linux (Almost since day 1) i have never seen anything like
this 

Pete 



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Re: [arch-general] / mounted ro after update

2012-09-19 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:26:32 -0500
David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:

 On 09/18/2012 03:53 AM, P .NIKOLIC wrote:
  On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 03:47:26 -0400 (EDT)
  Jude DaShielljdash...@shellworld.net  wrote:
 
  Whenever does an install of archlinux, they also do a big update
  so it's safe to say I got nailed by this problem too.  I'm not
  going to dismiss out of hand the probability that util-linux is
  at fault, but when I tried the installs this past weekend I
  suspected mkinitcpio or perhaps syslinux-install_update might be
  at fault.  However if in this update process neither of those
  utilities were used, then both of them are cleared.  It seems
  when util-linux finishes running after install or update it fails
  to set the sticky bits on partitions and lesser components in the
  linux file system at least in ext4 which is what I used to try
  the installs this past weekend in line with the installation
  guide on the archlinux wiki.
  HU you got me wondering now that could well be  both partitions
  that have the problem are ext4  why i did not change them to my more
  normal XFS i dont know ..
 
  I may have to back a lot up and rebuild but this time i will let my
  normal hate of the entire EXT file system rule and go XFS never been
  let down there ..
 
  Pete .
 
 
 
 Pete,
 
I have run Arch on several filesystems and I've been lucky I
 guess. Currently on this box, I have ext3, ext4 and reiser (old SuSE
 10.0 partition). This box has been running since mid-2009 and updates
 are usually weekly (sometimes I go a couple of weeks if I can't risk
 a break due to workload) I have not had any of the mount ro weirdness
 even after several multi-gigabyte updates. The current partitions I
 have are:
 
 /dev/sdc5 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,data=ordered)
 /dev/sdc7 on /home type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered)
 /dev/sda2 on /mnt/pv type reiserfs (rw,relatime)
 /dev/sdb2 on /mnt/win type fuseblk 
 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096)
 
I don't know what is doing it in your case, but it seems like we
 should be able to figure out where mount ro/rw logic for the resides
 (I picture something like the following buried somewhere):
 
if [conditional]; then
  mount -o rw [whatever]
else
  mount -o ro [whatever]
fi
 
I suspect this may be complicated by the fact that mounting (or
 remounting) takes place in several different places/processes during
 the boot. Anybody familiar with this off-hand or any idea where Pete
 might look to rule-in or rule-out the different parts of boot that
 could effect this? Sorry I don't have more, I just haven't had the
 need to dissect the boot mount process to that level before...
 
I guess you are just lucky :)
 

Hi David

yes i am torn right now between it being either SATA related  or ext4
related both of which have caused me untold problems before  i have had
2 previous SATA drives die because of the insult of a data connection
causing crossed connections  and ext4 several problems in the old Suse
days  .

The laptop running exactly the same stuff (they are mirrors of each
other) but on XFS  and IDE is perfect 

I see a reinstall on the horizon worst luck 


Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] / mounted ro after update

2012-09-18 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:01:26 -0500
David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:

 On 09/15/2012 11:24 AM, P .NIKOLIC wrote:
  Of course noone else will offer any assistance  will they  EH!
 
  Pete .
 
 Pete,
 
You know me, I'm never quite to the ire of many, but I haven't a
 clue what you are dealing with here... Let us know what it ultimately
 turns out to be and if it is an issue with util-linux on Arch's end,
 file a report so it gets fixed before it bites me :)
 

Morning David

Yes this is a real cracker and it only started after a big update  .

What i have found is  if i boot with the Arch boot cd  the fsck both /
and /home   it will boot fine but like this morning it has booted but
with / mounted ro  which means i can not do any updates  another time
it will be /home that comes up ro but there is no problem to be found
with the disc itself  , I am wondering if it is  an SATA problem again .

I have had too many problems with those stupid crappy designed sata
data cables , i have never seen such a pile of puke as the SATA
connection design and whoever designed and ratified needs to be hung
drawn and slaughtered.

Pete .
 

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Re: [arch-general] / mounted ro after update

2012-09-18 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:18:50 -0500
German Cabarcas cmdr.ch...@gmail.com wrote:

 I had a problem of this sort recently, due to my root partition being
 full, so i went ahead and performed a:
 
 # pacman -Sc
 
 Before trying to update once again and things were rolling as normal
 back again, hope it helps.
 
 German C.

Hi ..

Yes looked at that both  / and /home are only about 30% used over 400Gb
free on /home and 100Gb on /

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Re: [arch-general] / mounted ro after update

2012-09-18 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 03:47:26 -0400 (EDT)
Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net wrote:

 Whenever does an install of archlinux, they also do a big update so
 it's safe to say I got nailed by this problem too.  I'm not going to
 dismiss out of hand the probability that util-linux is at fault, but
 when I tried the installs this past weekend I suspected mkinitcpio or
 perhaps syslinux-install_update might be at fault.  However if in
 this update process neither of those utilities were used, then both
 of them are cleared.  It seems when util-linux finishes running after
 install or update it fails to set the sticky bits on partitions and
 lesser components in the linux file system at least in ext4 which is
 what I used to try the installs this past weekend in line with the
 installation guide on the archlinux wiki.

HU you got me wondering now that could well be  both partitions
that have the problem are ext4  why i did not change them to my more
normal XFS i dont know .. 

I may have to back a lot up and rebuild but this time i will let my
normal hate of the entire EXT file system rule and go XFS never been
let down there ..

Pete .
  

 
 On Tue, 18 Sep 2012, P .NIKOLIC wrote:
 
  On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:01:26 -0500
  David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:
  
   On 09/15/2012 11:24 AM, P .NIKOLIC wrote:
Of course noone else will offer any assistance  will they
EH!
   
Pete .
   
   Pete,
   
  You know me, I'm never quite to the ire of many, but I haven't
   a clue what you are dealing with here... Let us know what it
   ultimately turns out to be and if it is an issue with util-linux
   on Arch's end, file a report so it gets fixed before it bites
   me :)
   
  
  Morning David
  
  Yes this is a real cracker and it only started after a big update  .
  
  What i have found is  if i boot with the Arch boot cd  the fsck
  both / and /home   it will boot fine but like this morning it has
  booted but with / mounted ro  which means i can not do any updates
  another time it will be /home that comes up ro but there is no
  problem to be found with the disc itself  , I am wondering if it
  is  an SATA problem again .
  
  I have had too many problems with those stupid crappy designed sata
  data cables , i have never seen such a pile of puke as the SATA
  connection design and whoever designed and ratified needs to be hung
  drawn and slaughtered.
  
  Pete .
   
  
  
 
 ---
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 Adobe fiend for failing to Flash
 
 



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Re: [arch-general] / mounted ro after update

2012-09-18 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:07:55 +0100
Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

  all disc ID's are correct  so what has been screwed up this was
  perfect until the update  or am i going to be forced to
  re-install   not an option i look forward to 
 
 A workaround rather than a fix but may help investigate or fix the odd
 machine. Have you tried switching out the
 
 UUID=a1439104-fcea-4c90-b0fb-2340154a9eae for /dev/sda3 in fstab? 
 

Hi Kevin


No i have not tried that yet  but i have found something  that seems to
point to an ext4 fs problem  . 

If i shut the machine down after it has been running ok  and all
mounted correctly rw  then reboot it will always come up dev/sda4
mounted ro, But if i boot from the latest arch cd  and fsck.ext4
both sda3 and sda4 it will reboot fine all mounted rw again .

I am getting no reports of disc problems at all  makes me think it is
both kernel and util-linux at fault as that is when it all started
when both were updated


Pete .
 

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Re: [arch-general] / mounted ro after update

2012-09-15 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:29:02 +0530
Aurko Roy roy.au...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:05 PM, P .NIKOLIC
 p.nikol...@btinternet.comwrote:
 
  Hi folks
 
  Having been in hospital for a while i updated this system a couple
  of days ago and am having some strange problems
 
 
  If i run  pacman -Syu   i get
  7-of-9:/ # pacman -Syu
  :: Synchronising package databases...
  error: failed to update core (unable to lock database)
  error: failed to update extra (unable to lock database)
  error: failed to update community (unable to lock database)
  error: failed to update multilib (unable to lock database)
  error: failed to synchronise any databases
  error: failed to init transaction (unable to lock database)
  error: could not lock database: Read-only file system
 
  mount gives
 
  7-of-9:/ # mount
  proc on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
  sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
  dev on /dev type devtmpfs
  (rw,nosuid,relatime,size=1990844k,nr_inodes=497711,mode=755) run
  on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,mode=755) /dev/sda3
  on / type ext4 (ro,relatime,data=ordered) devpts on /dev/pts type
  devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000) shm
  on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime) tmpfs on /tmp
  type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime) /dev/sda4 on /home type ext4
  (rw,relatime,data=ordered) /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext2
  (rw,relatime) binfmt on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc
  (rw,relatime) gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/pete/.gvfs type
  fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon
  (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=100)
 
  contents of /etc/fstab
 
  #
  # /etc/fstab: static file system information
  #
  # file system dir   type  options   dump  pass
  tmpfs   /tmptmpfs   nodev,nosuid0   0
  UUID=34fd95b0-a146-47a8-8fa4-78dcedd8c127  /home ext4  defaults 0 1
  UUID=49c2a61c-19e8-4f45-b8ef-72507d60ee06  /boot ext2  defaults 0 1
  UUID=a1439104-fcea-4c90-b0fb-2340154a9eae  / ext4  defaults 0 1
  UUID=b25ccd70-a144-40af-8126-303d7333cdb4  swap  swap  defaults 0 0
 
 
  7-of-9:/ # uname -a
  Linux 7-of-9 3.5.3-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Aug 26 09:14:51 CEST
  2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 
  Hints please where to look i have compared this system to the laptop
  and can see no major differences i have checked the drive it reports
  all ok
 
  Pete .
 
 
 
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 What is the output of blkid? I recall reading a similar problem on the
 forum (https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=137255) where the
 problem was caused by an update to util-linux which had changed the
 uuid of the root partition so that the root could not be correctly
 remounted rw.
 
 Hope that helps.

Humm well still having the same problem i have tried using the older
version of util-linux to no avail

all disc ID's are correct  so what has been screwed up this was perfect
until the update  or am i going to be forced to re-install   not an
option i look forward to 

Pete .




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Re: [arch-general] / mounted ro after update

2012-09-15 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:10:15 +0100
Andy Pieters pieters.andy.mail...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 
 Pete
 
 On 15 September 2012 13:02, P .NIKOLIC p.nikol...@btinternet.com
 wrote:
  On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:29:02 +0530
  Aurko Roy roy.au...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Hints please where to look i have compared this system to the
   laptop and can see no major differences i have checked the drive
   it reports all ok
  
   Pete .
 
  Humm well still having the same problem i have tried using the older
  version of util-linux to no avail
 
  all disc ID's are correct  so what has been screwed up this was
  perfect until the update  or am i going to be forced to
  re-install   not an option i look forward to
 
  Pete .
 Please accept my apologies if this offends you or appears
 condescending to you in any way, I have been told by people that they
 perceive me as such at time. I assure you I mean no offence.
 
 Now that that is out of the way, let's get down to business.
 
 From the information you have given so far, you are able to boot up
 successfully, right? I do remember a glitch when upgrading a while ago
 that caused a similar issue. Until I found the solution, I just added
 mount / -orw,rebind in /etc/rc.local
 
 That caused my / partition to be rw as soon as the boot sequence is
 completed but still caused my some issues during the daemon start up.
 After a while I moved that line to /etc/rc.sysinit so it would execute
 before the daemons.
 
 Still a while later I discovered what the problem was, and I think it
 was in /etc/fstab, something really obvious, in hind sight but I
 cannot recall at the moment. Would you mind attaching your fstab?
 Maybe seeing it will trigger my memory.
 
 Andy

Hi Andy .


Dont worry about your reply  ideas and comments  you are the height of
politeness compared with some on the lists not just this one either  so
dont worry

I have compared this machine with the laptop that is similar processor
ect and same partitioning  layout  , i can see no difference between
the 2 apart from the actual UUID of the partitions  i will have a play
with some of those suggestions shortly see what happens .

I have a feeling it may well be related to the latest util-linux and a
another that was changed at the big update i did  .

Watch this space   .

Of course noone else will offer any assistance  will they  EH!  

Pete .


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[arch-general] / mounted ro after update

2012-09-13 Thread P .NIKOLIC
Hi folks

Having been in hospital for a while i updated this system a couple of
days ago and am having some strange problems 


If i run  pacman -Syu   i get 
7-of-9:/ # pacman -Syu
:: Synchronising package databases...
error: failed to update core (unable to lock database)
error: failed to update extra (unable to lock database)
error: failed to update community (unable to lock database)
error: failed to update multilib (unable to lock database)
error: failed to synchronise any databases
error: failed to init transaction (unable to lock database)
error: could not lock database: Read-only file system

mount gives

7-of-9:/ # mount
proc on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
dev on /dev type devtmpfs
(rw,nosuid,relatime,size=1990844k,nr_inodes=497711,mode=755) run
on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,mode=755) /dev/sda3 on /
type ext4 (ro,relatime,data=ordered) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts
(rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000) shm on /dev/shm
type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime) tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs
(rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime) /dev/sda4 on /home type ext4
(rw,relatime,data=ordered) /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw,relatime)
binfmt on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,relatime)
gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/pete/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon
(rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=100)

contents of /etc/fstab

# 
# /etc/fstab: static file system information
#
# file system dir   type  options   dump  pass
tmpfs   /tmptmpfs   nodev,nosuid0   0
UUID=34fd95b0-a146-47a8-8fa4-78dcedd8c127  /home ext4  defaults 0 1
UUID=49c2a61c-19e8-4f45-b8ef-72507d60ee06  /boot ext2  defaults 0 1
UUID=a1439104-fcea-4c90-b0fb-2340154a9eae  / ext4  defaults 0 1
UUID=b25ccd70-a144-40af-8126-303d7333cdb4  swap  swap  defaults 0 0


7-of-9:/ # uname -a
Linux 7-of-9 3.5.3-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Aug 26 09:14:51 CEST 2012
x86_64 GNU/Linux

Hints please where to look i have compared this system to the laptop
and can see no major differences i have checked the drive it reports
all ok 

Pete .



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Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-22 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 16:17:13 +0200
Karol Babioch ka...@babioch.de wrote:

 
 Maybe this is what it is really about: These changes come - more or
 less
 - from Poettering and there is quite a bunch of people who for
 whatever reasons don't like that idea.


Most certainly not liked at all 
 in my view it makes an extremely valid case for distros to go their
 own way .

Red Hat many moons ago was a good distro  the last one i looked at was
pants as was Fedora  Suse was heading that way as well in fact from
what i hear still are that is why i switched to Arch  having tried
Slackware but found it too old  .

Before all this kicked up i had never heard of this Poettering person
and i dont think i want to if these are some of his style of thinking .

Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] claws-mail is it possible to see own posts to mailinglist?

2012-07-19 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:16:57 +0200
Tobias Powalowski tobias.powalow...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I have a big problem with claws-mail, is it somehow possible to see
 own posts to mailinglists?
 I'm using gmail imap and somehow my own posts are not shown.
 Thunderbird does not have this issue.
 
 greetings
 tpowa
I have not changed any settings here to make it work and i see my own
posts to lists all the time ..so you must have altered a stock setting
somewhere

Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-18 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 00:46:49 +0200
Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:19 AM, P .NIKOLIC
 p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote:
  Right after much faffing about  i now have the box back to
 
 So if /lib is NOT a symlink, then all you should need is to delete all
 the files in /usr/lib that are not owned by any package. Then you
 should be able to upgrade.

Hi .

Right i have sort of put a list together but well  see below ..

:error: No package owns /usr/lib/libanl-2.16.so
error: No package owns /usr/lib/libanl.so.1
error: No package owns /usr/lib/libBrokenLocale-2.16.so
error: No package owns /usr/lib/libBrokenLocale.so.1
error: No package owns /usr/lib/libc-2.16.so
error: cannot determine ownership of directory
'/usr/lib/libcanberra-0.28' error: No package
owns /usr/lib/libcidn-2.16.so error: No package
owns /usr/lib/libcidn.so.1 error: No package
owns /usr/lib/libcrypt-2.16.so error: No package
owns /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.1 error: No package owns /usr/lib/libc.so.6
error: No package owns /usr/lib/libdl-2.16.so
error: No package owns /usr/lib/libdl.so.2
error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/usr/lib/libfakeroot'
error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/usr/lib/libffi-3.0.11
error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/usr/lib/locale'
error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/usr/lib/man-db'
error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/usr/lib/mc'
error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/usr/lib/modprobe.d'
error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/usr/lib/modules'
error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/usr/lib/modules-load.d'
error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/usr/lib/mono'
error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/usr/lib/mozilla'
error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/usr/lib/mpg123'
1error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/usr/lib/mysql'
error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/usr/lib/networkmanager'
error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/usr/lib/ntrack'
error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/usr/lib/ocaml'

I have  a huge number of the directory complaints are they
ignoreable ..?

Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-18 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:09:18 +0200
Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Andrew Hills hills...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote:
  So if /lib is NOT a symlink, then all you should need is to delete
  all the files in /usr/lib that are not owned by any package. Then
  you should be able to upgrade.
 
  And if /lib IS a symbolic link, delete it and let the glibc sync
  create it.
 
 No. Then you'll lose your loader and can't do anything...


Been there  not again thanks ..


Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-18 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:22:53 +0200
Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 9:19 AM, P .NIKOLIC
 p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote:
  On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 00:46:49 +0200
  Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote:
 
  On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:19 AM, P .NIKOLIC
  p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote:
   Right after much faffing about  i now have the box back to
 
  So if /lib is NOT a symlink, then all you should need is to delete
  all the files in /usr/lib that are not owned by any package. Then
  you should be able to upgrade.
 
  Hi .
 
  Right i have sort of put a list together but well  see below ..
 
 You just have to delete the files that show up as being in conflict
 when you try to upgrade. Just make sure that 1) /lib is not a symlink
 and 2) those files are not owned by any other package.
 
 -t

Hu  ..

No matter what it try  it still boils down to this list of errors 

error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
glibc: /usr/lib/ld-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libBrokenLocale-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libBrokenLocale.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libSegFault.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libanl-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libanl.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libc-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libc.so.6 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libcidn-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libcidn.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libcrypt-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libdl-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libdl.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libm-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libm.so.6 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libmemusage.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnsl-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_compat-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_compat.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_db-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_db.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_dns-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_dns.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_files-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_files.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_hesiod-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_hesiod.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_nis-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_nis.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_nisplus-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_nisplus.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libpcprofile.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libpthread-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libpthread.so.0 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libresolv-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libresolv.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/librt-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/librt.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libthread_db-1.0.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libthread_db.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libutil-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libutil.so.1 exists in filesystem
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.


lib is NOT a symlink  

 pacman -Qo /lib/*
/lib/ld-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libanl-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libanl.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libBrokenLocale-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libBrokenLocale.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libc-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libcidn-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libcidn.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libcrypt-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libcrypt.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libc.so.6 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libdl-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libdl.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libm-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libmemusage.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libm.so.6 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnsl-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnsl.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_compat-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_compat.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_db-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_db.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_dns-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_dns.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_files-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_files.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_hesiod-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_hesiod.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_nis-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_nisplus-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_nisplus.so.2 is owned by glibc

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-18 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:27:57 -0400
Alex Belanger i.caught@gmail.com wrote:

 pacman -Syu --ignore glibc
 pacman -Su
 I had the same problem, went to archlinux website and they say
 exactly what you need to do and why. You shouldn't toy with it
 yourself, nor use the --force option. Try this, if it doesn't work,
 they have an in-depth guide too.
 
 Otherwise I cannot stress out more the importance of reading the
 announcements whenever you're upgrading.
 


Been there done that still fails ...else i would not be trying to solve
the problem here ..


Pete

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Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-18 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:27:11 +0200
Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote:

Pruned
 
 You sholud delete the duplicate files from /usr/lib, did you do this?
 Then it _should_ work...
 
 -t

Hi Tom

Ok i will give it a whirl see what transpires


CheersPete
 

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Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-18 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:27:11 +0200
Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote:

Pruned
 
 You sholud delete the duplicate files from /usr/lib, did you do this?
 Then it _should_ work...
 
 -t


Hi Tom 


Well word on the street is it seems to have worked at last
now i have another problem cropped up for which i will start a new
thread

ThanksPete .

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[arch-general] New glitch since latest update

2012-07-18 Thread P .NIKOLIC

Hi folks .


Well having finally got the Glibc thing sorted  and done a pacman
-Syu  which pulled in kernel ect   when i try to start Kaffeine  it
takes almost 2 mins to finally show up  , When started from an xterm i
get the following errors

QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before
QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. QDBusConnection: session
D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may
misbehave. Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory vo_vdpau: Can't create
vdp device : No vdpau implementation. [pete@7-of-9 ~]$ net_buf_ctrl:
dvbspeed mode net_buf_ctrl: prebuffering... net_buf_ctrl: dvbspeed 100%
@ audio 2040 ms 16 buffers net_buf_ctrl: dvbspeed 99.5% @ audio 480 ms
4 buffers net_buf_ctrl: dvbspeed 100% @ audio 2040 ms 16 buffers

Running the  nouveau driver  

Pete 


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[arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-17 Thread P .NIKOLIC
Right then 

Hi ..

I have followed all there is to follow tried all i can find to try yet
i am still getting 

error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
glibc: /lib exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/ld-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libBrokenLocale-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libBrokenLocale.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libSegFault.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libanl-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libanl.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libc-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libc.so.6 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libcidn-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libcidn.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libcrypt-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libdl-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libdl.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libm-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libm.so.6 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libmemusage.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnsl-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_compat-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_compat.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_db-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_db.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_dns-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_dns.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_files-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_files.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_hesiod-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_hesiod.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_nis-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_nis.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_nisplus-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_nisplus.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libpcprofile.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libpthread-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libpthread.so.0 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libresolv-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libresolv.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/librt-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/librt.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libthread_db-1.0.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libthread_db.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libutil-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libutil.so.1 exists in filesystem
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.

What has got to be done to solve this once and for all .. 
lib is a symlink to usr/lib..

 # l lib
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Jul 17 16:08 lib - usr/lib/

 pacman -Qo /lib/*

Just generates screens full of the below 

error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/akonadi'
error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/alsa-lib'
error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/ao'
/lib/apr.exp is owned by apr 1.4.6-1
error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/apr-util-1'
/lib/aprutil.exp is owned by apr-util 1.4.1-1
/lib/aspell is owned by aspell 0.60.6.1-1
error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/aspell-0.60'
error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/atkmm-1.6'
/lib/attica_kde.so is owned by kdebase-runtime 4.8.4-2

 
And  
grep '^lib/' /var/lib/pacman/local/*/files | grep -v glibc

Generates absolutely nothing


so what gives ..

Pete .



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Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-17 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:27:35 +0200
Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote:

Pruned
 
 Hm how did /lib end up as a symlink to /usr/lib without those
 files being owned by glibc? Did you just copy it over manually and
 create the link yourself?
 
 -t

Quite easily

I followed what was on the Arch web site and the links therein
nothing fancy 

Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-17 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:27:35 +0200
Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote:



 
 Hm how did /lib end up as a symlink to /usr/lib without those
 files being owned by glibc? Did you just copy it over manually and
 create the link yourself?
 
 -t


Right after much faffing about  i now have the box back to 

 # pacman -Qo /lib/*
/lib/ld-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libanl-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libanl.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libBrokenLocale-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libBrokenLocale.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libc-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libcidn-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libcidn.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libcrypt-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libcrypt.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libc.so.6 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libdl-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libdl.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libm-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libmemusage.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libm.so.6 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnsl-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnsl.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_compat-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_compat.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_db-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_db.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_dns-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_dns.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_files-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_files.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_hesiod-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_hesiod.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_nis-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_nisplus-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_nisplus.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_nis.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libpcprofile.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libpthread-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libpthread.so.0 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libresolv-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libresolv.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/librt-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/librt.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libSegFault.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libthread_db-1.0.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libthread_db.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libutil-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libutil.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1

and 

grep '^lib/' /var/lib/pacman/local/*/files | grep -v glibc

returns nothing at all 

so now how do i get to install the new glibc 

all i get right now is 

error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
glibc: /usr/lib/ld-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libBrokenLocale-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libBrokenLocale.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libSegFault.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libanl-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libanl.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libc-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libc.so.6 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libcidn-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libcidn.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libcrypt-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libdl-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libdl.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libm-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libm.so.6 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libmemusage.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnsl-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_compat-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_compat.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_db-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_db.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_dns-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_dns.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_files-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_files.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_hesiod-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_hesiod.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_nis-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_nis.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_nisplus-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_nisplus.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libpcprofile.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libpthread-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libpthread.so.0 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libresolv-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libresolv.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/librt-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/librt.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libthread_db-1.0.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libthread_db.so.1 

[arch-general] Glibc problems still failing

2012-07-16 Thread P NIKOLIC
Hi .

Well i have followed the the info on the arch site but still can not upgrade 
glibc 

 i get this 


error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
glibc: /lib exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/ld-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libBrokenLocale-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libBrokenLocale.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libSegFault.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libanl-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libanl.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libc-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libc.so.6 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libcidn-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libcidn.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libcrypt-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libdl-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libdl.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libm-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libm.so.6 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libmemusage.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnsl-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_compat-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_compat.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_db-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_db.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_dns-2.16.so exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_dns.so.2 exists in filesystem
glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_files-2.16.so exists in filesystem

Plus a few more  how do i get round this please   it is also preventing 
Claws-Mail from sending mail

Thanks ..

Pete .



Re: [arch-general] Glibc problems still failing

2012-07-16 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 20:33:15 +0900
Vladimir Lomov lomov...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 ** P NIKOLIC [2012-07-16 11:04:31 +0100]:
 


Pruned for space
 
 How about to post results of
 $ pacman -Qo /lib/*
 and
 $ grep '^lib/' /var/lib/pacman/local/*/files | grep -v glibc
 
  Plus a few more  how do i get round this please   it is also
  preventing Claws-Mail from sending mail
 
  Thanks ..
 
  Pete .
 
 ---
 WBR, Vladimir Lomov
 
Hi Vladimir

right then 


7-of-9:/ #  pacman -Qo /lib/*
/lib/ld-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libanl-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libanl.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libBrokenLocale-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libBrokenLocale.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libc-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libcidn-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libcidn.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libcrypt-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libcrypt.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libc.so.6 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libdl-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libdl.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libm-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libmemusage.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libm.so.6 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnsl-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnsl.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_compat-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_compat.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_db-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_db.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_dns-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_dns.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_files-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_files.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_hesiod-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_hesiod.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_nis-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_nisplus-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_nisplus.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libnss_nis.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libpcprofile.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libpthread-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libpthread.so.0 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libresolv-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libresolv.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/librt-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/librt.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libSegFault.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libthread_db-1.0.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libthread_db.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libutil-2.16.so is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1
/lib/libutil.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.16.0-1

and ..
7-of-9:/home/pete/Documents # cd /
7-of-9:/ # grep '^lib/' /var/lib/pacman/local/*/files | grep -v glibc
/var/lib/pacman/local/ld-lsb-3-3/files:lib/
/var/lib/pacman/local/ld-lsb-3-3/files:lib/ld-lsb.so.3

Hope this is of some help ..


Pete .



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[arch-general] segfaults and call trace

2012-07-09 Thread P .NIKOLIC

Hi I am all of a sudden getting  lots of these  Call Trace reports in
the log and just prior to that was having 

Jul  9 10:12:03 7-of-9 kernel: [ 9092.341622] claws-mail[2310] general
protection ip:7feef8e5b2f1 sp:7fff657bdcd0 error:0 in
libhogweed.so.2.1[7feef8e5+12000] Jul  9 10:12:36 7-of-9 kernel:
[ 9124.906472] claws-mail[2311] general protection ip:7f13fffcc2f1
sp:7fff0657e680 error:0 in libhogweed.so.2.1[7f13fffc1000+12000] Jul  9
10:12:56 7-of-9 kernel: [ 9145.464138] claws-mail[2317] general
protection ip:7f5f6c7822f1 sp:7fff53f85e50 error:0 in
libhogweed.so.2.1[7f5f6c777000+12000] Jul  9 10:13:20 7-of-9 kernel:
[ 9169.400598] claws-mail[2336] general protection ip:7fb1812c42f1
sp:7fff16b3dfd0 error:0 in libhogweed.so.2.1[7fb1812b9000+12000] Jul  9
10:14:50 7-of-9 kernel: [ 9258.673119] claws-mail[2349] general
protection ip:7f59677942f1 sp:7fff31426d00 error:0 in
libhogweed.so.2.1[7f5967789000+12000] Jul  9 10:19:00 7-of-9 kernel:
[ 9509.316731] firefox[2361] general protection ip:7f3e2c9bd2f1
sp:7fffcc480770 error:0 in libhogweed.so.2.1[7f3e2c9b2000+12000] Jul  9
10:19:32 7-of-9 kernel: [ 9540.938608] chromium[2366] general
protection ip:7f3cd5eb72f1 sp:7fff66dffdb0 error:0 in
libhogweed.so.2.1[7f3cd5eac000+12000]




Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [  376.568236] Pid: 1347, comm:
nepomukindexer Not tainted 3.4.4-2-ARCH #1 Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9
kernel: [  376.568239] Call Trace:
Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [  376.568246]  [8112f486]
print_bad_pte+0x1e6/0x270 Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel:
[  376.568250]  [8113162d] unmap_single_vma+0x4fd/0x820 Jul
9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [  376.568254]  [8110c40a] ?
unlock_page+0x2a/0x40 Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [  376.568257]
[811321ae] unmap_vmas+0x5e/0xb0 Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9
kernel: [  376.568260]  [8113a07f] exit_mmap+0x9f/0x150 Jul
9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [  376.568264]  [8104e909]
mmput+0x59/0x130 Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [  376.568267]
[810558c8] exit_mm+0x108/0x130 Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel:
[  376.568269]  [81055a4f] do_exit+0x15f/0x940 Jul  9
13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [  376.568272]  [81138863] ?
do_munmap+0x1e3/0x3d0 Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [  376.568275]
[8105657f] do_group_exit+0x3f/0xa0 Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9
kernel: [  376.568277]  [810565f7] sys_exit_group+0x17/0x20
Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [  376.568281]  [8146a8e9]
system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel:
[  376.568283] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint

Are these related and if so what has brought them about  

The only thing i can find on libhogweed  is to do with a gnome chat
client that i do not have either installed .
 system as listed in sig block

Thanks pete .
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Re: [arch-general] segfaults and call trace

2012-07-09 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Mon, 9 Jul 2012 10:31:05 -0500
Leonid Isaev lis...@umail.iu.edu wrote:

 On Mon, 9 Jul 2012 13:39:44 +0100
 P .NIKOLIC p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
  
  Hi I am all of a sudden getting  lots of these  Call Trace reports
  in the log and just prior to that was having 
  
  Jul  9 10:12:03 7-of-9 kernel: [ 9092.341622] claws-mail[2310]
  general protection ip:7feef8e5b2f1 sp:7fff657bdcd0 error:0 in
  libhogweed.so.2.1[7feef8e5+12000] Jul  9 10:12:36 7-of-9 kernel:
  [ 9124.906472] claws-mail[2311] general protection ip:7f13fffcc2f1
  sp:7fff0657e680 error:0 in libhogweed.so.2.1[7f13fffc1000+12000]
  Jul  9 10:12:56 7-of-9 kernel: [ 9145.464138] claws-mail[2317]
  general protection ip:7f5f6c7822f1 sp:7fff53f85e50 error:0 in
  libhogweed.so.2.1[7f5f6c777000+12000] Jul  9 10:13:20 7-of-9 kernel:
  [ 9169.400598] claws-mail[2336] general protection ip:7fb1812c42f1
  sp:7fff16b3dfd0 error:0 in libhogweed.so.2.1[7fb1812b9000+12000]
  Jul  9 10:14:50 7-of-9 kernel: [ 9258.673119] claws-mail[2349]
  general protection ip:7f59677942f1 sp:7fff31426d00 error:0 in
  libhogweed.so.2.1[7f5967789000+12000] Jul  9 10:19:00 7-of-9 kernel:
  [ 9509.316731] firefox[2361] general protection ip:7f3e2c9bd2f1
  sp:7fffcc480770 error:0 in libhogweed.so.2.1[7f3e2c9b2000+12000]
  Jul  9 10:19:32 7-of-9 kernel: [ 9540.938608] chromium[2366] general
  protection ip:7f3cd5eb72f1 sp:7fff66dffdb0 error:0 in
  libhogweed.so.2.1[7f3cd5eac000+12000]
  
  
  
  
  Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [  376.568236] Pid: 1347, comm:
  nepomukindexer Not tainted 3.4.4-2-ARCH #1 Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9
  kernel: [  376.568239] Call Trace:
  Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [  376.568246]  [8112f486]
  print_bad_pte+0x1e6/0x270 Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel:
  [  376.568250]  [8113162d] unmap_single_vma+0x4fd/0x820
  Jul 9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [  376.568254]  [8110c40a] ?
  unlock_page+0x2a/0x40 Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [  376.568257]
  [811321ae] unmap_vmas+0x5e/0xb0 Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9
  kernel: [  376.568260]  [8113a07f] exit_mmap+0x9f/0x150
  Jul 9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [  376.568264]  [8104e909]
  mmput+0x59/0x130 Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [  376.568267]
  [810558c8] exit_mm+0x108/0x130 Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9
  kernel: [  376.568269]  [81055a4f] do_exit+0x15f/0x940
  Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [  376.568272]
  [81138863] ? do_munmap+0x1e3/0x3d0 Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9
  kernel: [  376.568275] [8105657f] do_group_exit+0x3f/0xa0
  Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [  376.568277]  [810565f7]
  sys_exit_group+0x17/0x20 Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel:
  [  376.568281]  [8146a8e9] system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b
  Jul  9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [  376.568283] Disabling lock
  debugging due to kernel taint
  
  Are these related and if so what has brought them about  
  
  The only thing i can find on libhogweed  is to do with a gnome chat
  client that i do not have either installed .
   system as listed in sig block
  
  Thanks pete .
 
 I don't think claws/firefox/chrome issue is related to nepomuk crash.
 
 $ pacman -Qo /usr/lib/libhogweed.so.2
 /usr/lib/libhogweed.so.2 is owned by nettle 2.4-1
 
 nettle is required by gnutls...
 

Hi .

Yes same result here for libhogweed

i now have several more of these reports 

Jul  9 13:42:47 7-of-9 kernel: [ 1619.633905] Pid: 1385, comm:
threaded-ml Tainted: GB3.4.4-2-ARCH #1 Jul  9 13:42:47
7-of-9 kernel: [ 1619.633909] Call Trace: Jul  9 13:42:47 7-of-9
kernel: [ 1619.633922]  [8112f486] print_bad_pte+0x1e6/0x270
Jul  9 13:42:47 7-of-9 kernel: [ 1619.633929]  [8113162d]
unmap_single_vma+0x4fd/0x820 Jul  9 13:42:47 7-of-9 kernel:
[ 1619.633936]  [8146a265] ? page_fault+0x25/0x30 Jul  9
13:42:47 7-of-9 kernel: [ 1619.633943]  [811321ae]
unmap_vmas+0x5e/0xb0 Jul  9 13:42:47 7-of-9 kernel: [ 1619.633949]
[8113a07f] exit_mmap+0x9f/0x150 Jul  9 13:42:47 7-of-9
kernel: [ 1619.633955]  [8104e909] mmput+0x59/0x130 Jul  9
13:42:47 7-of-9 kernel: [ 1619.633960]  [810558c8]
exit_mm+0x108/0x130 Jul  9 13:42:47 7-of-9 kernel: [ 1619.633966]
[81055a4f] do_exit+0x15f/0x940 Jul  9 13:42:47 7-of-9 kernel:
[ 1619.633973]  [8105657f] do_group_exit+0x3f/0xa0 Jul  9
13:42:47 7-of-9 kernel: [ 1619.633980]  [81065b73]
get_signal_to_deliver+0x283/0x600 Jul  9 13:42:47 7-of-9 kernel:
[ 1619.633986]  [810aa412] ? do_futex+0x332/0xab0 Jul  9
13:42:47 7-of-9 kernel: [ 1619.633992]  [81014308]
do_signal+0x68/0x5f0 Jul  9 13:42:47 7-of-9 kernel: [ 1619.633998]
[81359cb9] ? sys_sendto+0x149/0x180 Jul  9 13:42:47 7-of-9
kernel: [ 1619.634004]  [81014915] do_notify_resume+0x65/0x80
Jul  9 13:42:47 7-of-9 kernel: [ 1619.634014]  [8146aba2]
int_signal+0x12/0x17

Something has gotten well mangled over the last couple of updates  i
run a daily  pacman -Syu

Pete .
 

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Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

2012-07-03 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 23:58:24 +0100
Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

   My setup was with dcron and ntp.
  
  Considering servers don't get chance to run the RTC battery down.
  I've never understood why everyone uses NTP which is an unneeded
  security risk anyway (OpenBSDs ain't bad). Do we think, in
  1938-1945 men couldn't synchronise watches without NTP? Saves
  checking I suppose but that's it or does it?
  
 
 I accept there are some dodgy RTCs or perhaps old unreliable ones but
 do you run NTP or replace the server?
 

It's very simple   Run NTP  .

Is your system of national importance NO do you have top secret
millitary info on your system  NO , So what is with this continual
whimpering about security risks that are almost non existant

Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

2012-07-03 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 18:48:44 +0200
Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:

 On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 08:40 +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote:
  Is your system of national importance NO do you have top secret
  millitary info on your system  NO
 
 You're mistaken Pete,
 
 if we would talk about our orders we would have to kill you ;).
 
 Greetings from my Mossad-PC,
 Ralf
 
 # ntpdate ntp.favey.ch
  3 Jul 18:48:10 ntpdate[6687]: step time server 195.34.89.227 offset
 -1.147282 sec
 

I very much doubt that   know what i mean 

Peteclick bang


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Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:04:30 +0200
Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote:

 Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:17:45 +0300
 schrieb Chris Sakalis chrissaka...@gmail.com:
 
  Hello,
  pulseaudio[1] has that functionality. You should check it out. On
  KDE , Kmix supports pulseaudio and I am pretty sure it support auto
  switching too.
 
 PulseAudio is more or less crap. It still doesn't support
 (semi-)professional audio cards.
 
 If you don't really need it's super-duper extra functions like
 gaplessly moving a stream from one sound card to another you better
 don't bother with PA. It rather makes things worse than better.
 
 I don't have a solution for the original question, because I don't use
 two sound cards at the same time, but there are other and better ways
 to disable the internal notebook speakers.
 
 Usually you can choose in every application which sound card to be
 used (sometimes in it's config files). I guess there are software
 mixers for every desktop environment which let you choose the sound
 card, which shall be used.
 
 Btw., isn't there a button on the notebook which can mute those
 speakers?
 
 Heiko

Talk about serious sour grapes  ..

I have 2 sound cards one internal  and a USB one with PA gives me a lot
less bother than ALSA did ..

Pete 

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[arch-general] 20:49:23.023183 IP0 bad-hlen 0

2012-06-09 Thread P .NIKOLIC
Hi  All


whilst running tcpdump  i have noticed i am getting a considerable
number of  these

20:49:18.899106 IP0 bad-hlen 0
20:49:23.023183 IP0 bad-hlen 0

They have only shown up recently   , I am also getting hit by someone
with their iPhone  trying all sorts of sillys  could the 2 be linked  

The network setup is as follows 

A belkin  universal repeater   into a D-Link DGS1005D switch that also
has a Zoom  3G protable Wireless router connected but not powered most
of the time the PC's are connected to the switch .

My internet comes from a friend a couple of doors up the road (saves me
a packet )  but when his link is poor i switch to the Zoom  

Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] update problem maybe ..

2012-06-08 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 00:52:31 -0500
Myra Nelson myra.nel...@hughes.net wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:08 PM, P .NIKOLIC
 p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote:
  On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 14:52:25 -0500
  David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:
 
  On 06/07/2012 02:35 PM, P .NIKOLIC wrote:
   Thanks folks    ..
  
   Now to tackle the laptop and get it ready for a couple of months
   duty whilst laid up in dang hospital ..
  
   Pete .
 
  Advise,
 
     'Stay out of the hospital!' - they only make you sicker
  there... Good luck and a speedy recovery.
 
 
  Hi David ..
 
  I wish i could but it is that or wheelchair  so ..
 
 
  Pete .
 
 
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 I just can't resist.
 
 The other Stay out of the hospital is you also might need a lawyer -
 oh yeah David qualifies.
 

HUmm  yes  had  not thought of that one   but yes   mind you wrong side
of the pond cheers


Pete .


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[arch-general] update problem maybe ..

2012-06-07 Thread P .NIKOLIC
Hi 

Just done a pacman -Syu  i get the following error below 
is there a recomended way around the problem of  var/lock and var/run
is it safe to delete them to update .



resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...

Targets (6): filesystem-2012.6-2  git-1.7.10.4-1  icu-49.1.2-1
krb5-1.10.2-1 libsystemd-185-1  systemd-tools-185-1

Total Installed Size:   49.60 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:   0.25 MiB

Proceed with installation? [Y/n] 
(6/6) checking package integrity
[##] 100% (6/6) loading package
files[##] 100% (6/6)
checking for file conflicts  [##]
100% error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
filesystem: /var/lock exists in filesystem filesystem: /var/run exists
in filesystem Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.



Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] update problem maybe ..

2012-06-07 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:04:10 +0100
P .NIKOLIC p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Hi 
 
 Just done a pacman -Syu  i get the following error below 
 is there a recomended way around the problem of  var/lock and var/run
 is it safe to delete them to update .
 
 
 
 resolving dependencies...
 looking for inter-conflicts...
 
 Targets (6): filesystem-2012.6-2  git-1.7.10.4-1  icu-49.1.2-1
 krb5-1.10.2-1 libsystemd-185-1  systemd-tools-185-1
 
 Total Installed Size:   49.60 MiB
 Net Upgrade Size:   0.25 MiB
 
 Proceed with installation? [Y/n] 
 (6/6) checking package integrity
 [##] 100% (6/6) loading package
 files[##] 100% (6/6)
 checking for file conflicts  [##]
 100% error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
 filesystem: /var/lock exists in filesystem filesystem: /var/run exists
 in filesystem Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.
 
 
 
 Pete .
 

Thanks folks..

Now to tackle the laptop and get it ready for a couple of months duty
whilst laid up in dang hospital ..

Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] update problem maybe ..

2012-06-07 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 14:52:25 -0500
David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:

 On 06/07/2012 02:35 PM, P .NIKOLIC wrote:
  Thanks folks..
 
  Now to tackle the laptop and get it ready for a couple of months
  duty whilst laid up in dang hospital ..
 
  Pete .
 
 Advise,
 
'Stay out of the hospital!' - they only make you sicker there...
 Good luck and a speedy recovery.
 

Hi David ..

I wish i could but it is that or wheelchair  so ..


Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] /usr/bin/X: error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.0:

2012-06-04 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 20:40:48 -0500
Leonid Isaev lis...@umail.iu.edu wrote:

 On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 23:52:05 +0100
 P .NIKOLIC p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
  Hi .
  
  I have just run  pacman -Suy  rebooted the system and found i could
  not start X   getting the error  message  
  /usr/bin/X: error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.0:
  cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ..
  
  Someone has suggested the fixed version of X but it is not showing
  up having done a pacman -Syyu   no fix i have had to use the dodge
  suggested on the arch linux bbs  of 
  
  ln -s /usr/lib/libudev.so.1.0.1 /usr/lib/libudev.so.0 
  
  
  Yes i know it is not strictly speaking the correct thing
 
 Not only is it not correct, it is plain stupid.
 
  BUT it got the
  system working again  what i want to know is which mirror is likely
  to have the fixed version of X on it  i can the get back to standard
  system  . 
 
 First, your /usr/bin/Xorg has been linked against an old libudev, so
 creating a symlink to a new library will inevitably cause breakage. I
 suggest reverting all changes while you can. Second, X is not a
 critical package and you shouldn't mess with udev just because X
 fails to launch.
 
 Regarging working versions, xorg-server 1.12.2 and systemd-tools
 184-2 work together just fine.
 
 Regarding mirrors, kernel.org and rutgers.edu are the ones which I use
 interchangeably since ~2009.
 
  
  Oh i also noitced that the systemd-udev update has messed the PA
  sound system up 
  
  Pete .
  
  
 
 
 
Since you  seem to be in snotty mode  that i neither asked for nor
required.   if the mirrors were up to date then this sort of thing
would not happen  , So Needs must  , I update this machine everyday for
several days i have been told nothing to do when i run pacman -Syu
so maybe there is a mirrors problem  sorry but not my department.

If there is new stuff out there and it dont hit the UK mirrors i am in
the UK why should i use German mirrors .


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[arch-general] /usr/bin/X: error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.0:

2012-06-03 Thread P .NIKOLIC
Hi .

I have just run  pacman -Suy  rebooted the system and found i could not
start X   getting the error  message  
/usr/bin/X: error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.0: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory ..

Someone has suggested the fixed version of X but it is not showing up
having done a pacman -Syyu   no fix i have had to use the dodge
suggested on the arch linux bbs  of 

ln -s /usr/lib/libudev.so.1.0.1 /usr/lib/libudev.so.0 


Yes i know it is not strictly speaking the correct thing BUT it got the
system working again  what i want to know is which mirror is likely to
have the fixed version of X on it  i can the get back to standard
system  . 

Oh i also noitced that the systemd-udev update has messed the PA sound
system up 

Pete .


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[arch-general] Mirrors

2012-05-31 Thread P .NIKOLIC

Hi ..

I am getting lots of errors from the  mirror.lividpenguin.com   stating 
 : Given file does not exist   is this mirror having problems or should
 i remove it from my mirrors list  this has been an issue for best part
 of a week now 


Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] Mirrors

2012-05-31 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Thu, 31 May 2012 08:33:46 +0100
Leonidas Spyropoulos artafi...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:19 AM, P .NIKOLIC
 p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
  Hi ..
 
  I am getting lots of errors from the  mirror.lividpenguin.com
  stating : Given file does not exist   is this mirror having
  problems or should i remove it from my mirrors list  this has been
  an issue for best part of a week now
 
 Hello Pete,
 
 Maybe your chosen mirros is down or slow. Try one of the others:
 http://www.archlinux.org/mirrors/status/
 
 Hope you solve it.
 
 L.
 
 
 
  Pete .
 
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Hi L 

ok thanks   thought there may be a problem that one was always
lightening fast for me so hope it is back soon


Pete .



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Re: [arch-general] NAS drive revisited

2012-05-21 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Mon, 21 May 2012 01:20:21 +0200
Damjan gdam...@gmail.com wrote:

  I have read the Arch Wiki till i am blue in the face already hence
  the mail ..
 
 
  mounting with SMB  using the line below
 
  mount -t cifs //192.168.0.154/backups -o /home/pete/nas/
 
  After entering the password  it mounts . mount reports ..
 
  //192.168.0.154/backups on /home/pete/nas type cifs
  (rw,relatime,sec=ntlm,unc=\\192.168.0.154\backups,
  uid=0,username=root,noforceuid,gid=0,noforcegid,addr=192.168.0.154,unix,posixpaths,serverino,acl,rsize=1048576,wsize=65536,actimeo=1)
 
  i can see one thing but cant alter it  username=root but you can
  only mount as root  or using sudo as i have been unless of course
  you know different.
 
 
 add uid=pete in the mount options.
 
 I don't know if it's documented in the wiki, but sure it is in the
 `man mount.cifs` :)
 
 

I'll give that a try  thanks ..


Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] NAS drive revisited

2012-05-21 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Mon, 21 May 2012 00:11:38 -0300
Martin Cigorraga m...@archlinux.us wrote:

 Hi Nikolic,
 If you don't plan to share your NAS with (nasty and mediocre) Windows
 systems you should mount it as a NFS4 share, I use it to access my
 download and media home servers from various PCs in my home and it's
 quite a smooth experience.

Hi 

No windows boxes here apart from my brother laptop but he does not use
the drive so not a problem 

Pete 


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[arch-general] NAS drive revisited

2012-05-20 Thread P .NIKOLIC
Hi ..

I am still not able to write to my external NAS drive an iomega home
media drive

So lets approach it from a different angle  

we will say i have not done anything yet just plugged it into the
network 

What packages am i looking to install   and what configuration changes
do i need to make .

I am trying this way round as i am chasing my tail up somewhere dark
and nasty right now .

I know the drive works perfectly i have just tried it with an old Suse
distro  on the Laptop and instant read/write no problem now if it can
work on there why wont it work on Arch ..

Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] NAS drive revisited

2012-05-20 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sun, 20 May 2012 18:09:13 -0400
Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun 20 May 2012 21:58 +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote:
  I am still not able to write to my external NAS drive an iomega home
  media drive
 
 You just can't write? If you can mount but can't write, then you have
 the wrong permissions on the drive and/or uid/gid mixups, depending on
 how you want it set up.
 
  So lets approach it from a different angle  
  
  we will say i have not done anything yet just plugged it into the
  network 
  
  What packages am i looking to install and what configuration changes
  do i need to make .
 
 See the Arch wiki. The ball's in your court here. What you read
 depends on how you want to access the drive. SMB? NFS?

I have read the Arch Wiki till i am blue in the face already hence the
mail ..


mounting with SMB  using the line below

mount -t cifs //192.168.0.154/backups -o /home/pete/nas/

After entering the password  it mounts . mount reports ..

//192.168.0.154/backups on /home/pete/nas type cifs
(rw,relatime,sec=ntlm,unc=\\192.168.0.154\backups,
uid=0,username=root,noforceuid,gid=0,noforcegid,addr=192.168.0.154,unix,posixpaths,serverino,acl,rsize=1048576,wsize=65536,actimeo=1)

i can see one thing but cant alter it  username=root but you can only
mount as root  or using sudo as i have been unless of course you know
different.



 
  I am trying this way round as i am chasing my tail up somewhere dark
  and nasty right now .
 
  I know the drive works perfectly i have just tried it with an old
  Suse distro  on the Laptop and instant read/write no problem now if
  it can work on there why wont it work on Arch ..
 


 Your description of the problem is much too vague. If you want help,
 you ought to describe more specifically what you're trying to do, and
 what is going wrong.
 
Hummm what am i trying to do  Write to the drive and being told unable
to write file  

Your description of the problem is much too vague  Er what more
is there to tellit mounts i can read from it i am unable to write
to it  .




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Re: [arch-general] NAS drive revisited

2012-05-20 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sun, 20 May 2012 23:17:14 +0200
Damjan gdam...@gmail.com wrote:

 
  I am still not able to write to my external NAS drive an iomega home
  media drive
 
  So lets approach it from a different angle
 
  we will say i have not done anything yet just plugged it into the
  network
 
  What packages am i looking to install   and what configuration
  changes do i need to make .
 
  I am trying this way round as i am chasing my tail up somewhere dark
  and nasty right now .
 
  I know the drive works perfectly i have just tried it with an old
  Suse distro  on the Laptop and instant read/write no problem now if
  it can work on there why wont it work on Arch ..
 
 What protocols does the NAS support, and which of those you want to
 use? If you don't know about protocols, then tell us how do you
 expect it to work.
 

SMBand to be able to both read and write the device  as i used to
be able to do under suse  ( dont anyone even think of the go back to
suse line that is a non starter) but i would like to know why it just
works on suse and is a dog on here .

Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch

2012-04-29 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 12:51:11 +0800
Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote:


 No need for systemd at all :)

As someone that has used Linux exclusively since the very early days
kernel version 0.99-a   i have to say 

+1 to no need for systemd at allit is just another un-needed
uncalled for over complication of a process that works well as it is .

Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] findutils and locate

2012-04-16 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 23:53:21 +0100
Mauro Santos registo.maill...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 15-04-2012 23:10, P .NIKOLIC wrote:
  On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 23:49:45 +0200
  Martti Kühne mysat...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  something failing on my guess would be a changed permission
  somewhere althou i dont mess around with permissions outside of my
  user area .
 
 Are you using locate as your user? If so, are you on the locate group?
 

-rwxr-sr-x 1 root locate 39512 Mar  3 05:53 /usr/bin/locate  

it is running with the default as you can see  this is getting a bit
strange to say the least  think the next is going to be uninstall and
reinstall it see if that helps any incase some dep has not been picked
up automatically , The thing is there are no complaints to be seen

Ho Humm 

Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] findutils and locate

2012-04-16 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 13:13:41 +0530
gt static.vor...@gmx.com wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 08:22:03AM +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote:
  -rwxr-sr-x 1 root locate 39512 Mar  3 05:53 /usr/bin/locate  
  
  it is running with the default as you can see  this is getting a bit
  strange to say the least  think the next is going to be uninstall
  and reinstall it see if that helps any incase some dep has not been
  picked up automatically , The thing is there are no complaints to
  be seen
 
 Remove the .db along with trying a re-install.
 

Yep will do  be doing that tonight  so maybe know later 

Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] gpg key gen failure

2012-04-15 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 22:28:24 -0400
Evan LeCompte evan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can you tell us what command you tried to run to generate your key
 pair?
 
 On 15/03/12 at 10:29pm, pete wrote:
  On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:09:28 +
  pete p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote:
  
   Hi .
   
   I have just tried to generate a key pair and got the following
   
   gpg process did not finish cannot generate new key pair
   
   gpg: -:2: invalid algortihm
   gpg: -:8: missing colon
   
   
   Pete .
   
   
  
  Sorry for this misplaced post not sure how it go here 
  
  
  Pete   i will repost correctly this time ..
  
  
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Hi ..

That was using Kgpg  but problem solved when kde was updated to 4.8.2 

Pete .


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[arch-general] findutils and locate

2012-04-15 Thread P .NIKOLIC
Hi .

How can i return full function to the findutils and locate  , It was
the best utility for the job and now has been eroded by the supposed
replacements that are a complete failure .

I want my old locate command back and working as it always used to
never failed to find what i wanted  

Oh and it did not clobber the system whilst building it's database
either 



Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] findutils and locate

2012-04-15 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 13:00:19 +0200
Martti Kühne mysat...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 06:33:58PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote:
  On 15/04/12 18:15, P .NIKOLIC wrote:
   How can i return full function to the findutils and locate  , It
   was the best utility for the job and now has been eroded by the
   supposed replacements that are a complete failure .
   
   I want my old locate command back and working as it always used to
   never failed to find what i wanted  
   
 
 the fuck, mlocate works fine here, it installs in /usr/bin/locate and
 /usr/bin/updatedb, which both run fine.
 same with findutils.
 
 actually you're not even posting error output or factual support like
 from -Ql, repo changes or anything else helpful. shame on you.
 
  
  The only way is to switch distros.  Arch is obviously not for you.
  
 
 Seriously quit the ...trolling, both of you. The way you are failing
 at complicating things here hurts my intellect. This list isn't 4chan.
 
 cheers!
 mar77i

DID i swear no i dont expect reply's to either thanks muchly  

you come on the list ask a polite question you get bad mouthed and told
to switch distros .

Right mlocate is installed   updatedb takes no time it is instant it
fails to read a thing   .. it attempts to reads the NAS drive that i do
NOT want read  thats it nothing else 

now can we have some sensible replies please ..

Pete .




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Re: [arch-general] findutils and locate

2012-04-15 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 21:43:44 +1000
Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote:

 On 15/04/12 21:24, Martti Kühne wrote:
  On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 09:09:11PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote:
 
  It was not trolling but serious advise.  If you can not do basic
  research, Arch is not the distribution for you.
  
  
  Thanks for pointing it out another superfluous time.
  Don't you know pete by now? Obviously that's how he works, and
  afaict we've been working hard in the past to get him improve this
  to good measure.
  
  so, let's just solve problems and not get caught up with
  accusitions of lazyness, since, ultimately, these are lazy as well.
  
 
 No...  I think I will continue to tell him to do some basic research
 or switch distros.  One day it might get through.
 
 Allan

You sir are obnoxious and offensive i asked a polite question that you
seem to think is otherwise   do not darken my desktop again please

Pete .
 

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Re: [arch-general] findutils and locate

2012-04-15 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 15:41:55 +0200
Martti Kühne mysat...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 01:49:41PM +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote:
  
  Right mlocate is installed   updatedb takes no time it is instant it
  fails to read a thing   .. it attempts to reads the NAS drive that
  i do NOT want read  thats it nothing else 
  
  now can we have some sensible replies please ..
  
  Pete .
 
 
 try to ignore the bad vibes here and beat someone up IRL, it's more
 satisfying.
 
 man updatedb.conf mentions PRUNEPATH. did you set that
 in /etc/updatedb.conf? can you paste your config, while we're at it?
 
 cheers!
 mar77i

Hi ..

Yes some people i would really like to meet face to face  but still ..

Right my /etc/updatedb.conf is as follows  
# directories to exclude from the slocate database:
PRUNEPATHS=/media /mnt /tmp /var/tmp /var/cache /var/lock /var/run /var/spool 
/home/pete/nas /home/pete/Movies /home/pete/Music /home/pete/nas1

# filesystems to exclude from the slocate database:
PRUNEFS=afs auto autofs binfmt_misc cifs coda configfs cramfs debugfs
devpts devtmpfs ftpfs iso9660 mqueue ncpfs nfs nfs4 proc ramfs
securityfs shfs smbfs sshfs sysfs tmpfs udf usbfs vboxsf

yet i get zero file finds for any file name that i know is definately
on the system in a location that IS searchable

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Re: [arch-general] findutils and locate

2012-04-15 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 22:13:33 +0530
gt static.vor...@gmx.com wrote:

 On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 04:38:01PM +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote:
  Right my /etc/updatedb.conf is as follows  
  # directories to exclude from the slocate database:
  PRUNEPATHS=/media /mnt /tmp /var/tmp /var/cache /var/lock /var/run 
  /var/spool /home/pete/nas /home/pete/Movies /home/pete/Music 
  /home/pete/nas1
  
  # filesystems to exclude from the slocate database:
  PRUNEFS=afs auto autofs binfmt_misc cifs coda configfs cramfs
  debugfs devpts devtmpfs ftpfs iso9660 mqueue ncpfs nfs nfs4 proc
  ramfs securityfs shfs smbfs sshfs sysfs tmpfs udf usbfs vboxsf
  
  yet i get zero file finds for any file name that i know is
  definately on the system in a location that IS searchable
 
 Does /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db exist? If it does, then when was the
 last time it was accessed?
 

Hi ..

Yes it is there  ..

-rw-r-  1 root locate 7868436 Apr 15 13:48 mlocate.db 

Doing a strings on the file  it contains the expected data but  i still
get no files show up when i try locate filename  even if the file is
listed in the db  and it Actually exists on the drive and is good 

Pete  



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Re: [arch-general] findutils and locate

2012-04-15 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 23:49:45 +0200
Martti Kühne mysat...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 05:51:36PM +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote:
  Hi ..
  
  Yes it is there  ..
  
  -rw-r-  1 root locate 7868436 Apr 15 13:48 mlocate.db 
  
  Doing a strings on the file  it contains the expected data but  i
  still get no files show up when i try locate filename  even if the
  file is listed in the db  and it Actually exists on the drive and
  is good 
  
 
 is the data up to date after updatedb?
 
 Actually, no it's not.
 
 the header of mlocate.db is tested on configuration changes,
 described in [1]. Likely, configuration has changed with a recent
 update, so your problem would possibly have been fixed right after
 you looked into man mlocate.db
 
 I am just confused to find you never having had this problem
 before...?
 
 cheers!
 mar77i
 
 [1] http://linux.die.net/man/5/mlocate.db

Hi  .

It has been flakey for a while  but now  it just does not do anything
i have no reports of errors anywhere just  displays nothing

something failing on my guess would be a changed permission somewhere
althou i dont mess around with permissions outside of my user area .

Pete ..


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Re: [arch-general] USB mounted into wrong directory

2012-04-06 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 20:10:59 +0200
Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote:



 
 Nothing should ever require you to disable automounting. The default
 should be not to mount new devices, anything else sounds like a bug
 to me.

-1

Pete .


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[arch-general] NAS drive read ok cant write

2012-02-20 Thread P Nikolic
Hi .


I have an Iomega  NAS drive that i used to be able to read and write to  using 
opensuse   now i need to write to it and am completely unable to i can still 
read from it .

I have 2 directory on it mounted  using 

mount.cifs //192.168.0.154/music  /home/pete/Music -o user= pass=pass
mount.cifs //192.168.0.154/movies /home/pete/Movies -o user= pass=pass

I can also read only from them 

How do i regain write permissions  

Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] NAS drive read ok cant write

2012-02-20 Thread P Nikolic
On Monday 20 Feb 2012 17:40:59 Jesse Juhani Jaara wrote:
 chown -R
 your_user_name:users_or_some_another_group_you_wanna_assing_as_owener
 /foo/bar
 
 man chown
 
 something like:
 chown -R pete:users /home/pete/M{usic,ovies}
 
 should do it, remebr to run it as root. But be avare that that will make you
 the ofvner of everysingle file in those folders :D


Hi   

Well that made no difference at all   everything is user:65534 Group:65534 
still unable to write ..


Wonder if this thing supports NFS  that might be a little more friendly as 
there are no windblows machines involved

Pete .

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[arch-general] quick test

2012-02-20 Thread P Nikolic
Quick test 

list seems very quite  is it ..

Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] NAS drive read ok cant write

2012-02-20 Thread P Nikolic
On Monday 20 Feb 2012 16:04:30 P Nikolic wrote:
 On Monday 20 Feb 2012 17:40:59 Jesse Juhani Jaara wrote:
  chown -R
  your_user_name:users_or_some_another_group_you_wanna_assing_as_owener
  /foo/bar
  
  man chown
  
  something like:
  chown -R pete:users /home/pete/M{usic,ovies}
  
  should do it, remebr to run it as root. But be avare that that will make
  you the ofvner of everysingle file in those folders :D
 
 Hi
 
 Well that made no difference at all   everything is user:65534 Group:65534
 still unable to write ..
 
 
 Wonder if this thing supports NFS  that might be a little more friendly as
 there are no windblows machines involved
 
 Pete .

Well seems it dont like   NFS  .

Seems i need a samb wizarad  is there one lurking ..

Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] crashes

2012-02-19 Thread P Nikolic
On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 10:49:40 David C. Rankin wrote:
 On 02/17/2012 02:14 AM, P Nikolic wrote:
  That is a mighty good question it is a deaktop machine  i run 2 21 LCD
  displays  maybe it is detecting those and setting it accordingly one is
  VGA
  connected the other is on the DVI port
 
 Shouldn't make any difference. I do the same thing at work with the nvidia
 diver and an old nvidia 8600GTOCS. I have the primary monitor on the DVI
 port of the card and the secondary connected to the VGA port, no problems
 (no powerdevil either):
 
 [   ] [   ]
 
 | 1920x1200 | | 1680x1050 |
 
 [   ] [   ]
 
 the driver creates a single 3600x1200 desktop out of the two monitors.
 
 (sure wish I could buy another 1920x1200, but now all monitor manf. want to
 cheat you out of 120 vertical pixels for some reason :(

Hi David 

 yes it's a strange one  . just checked it is still happening  i will have to 
spend a bit of time soon see if i can find out what and why but got  awards 
night  for the car club to sort out now trophys to get engraved  glassware to 
order presentation to design   ect ect ect 


Pete .


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Re: [arch-general] crashes

2012-02-17 Thread P Nikolic
On Thursday 16 Feb 2012 17:43:30 David C. Rankin wrote:
 On 02/15/2012 08:43 AM, P Nikolic wrote:
  Hi
  
  I am getting logs full of the  following along with bad crazy Kmail
  behaviour Also problems writing to my NAS drive  i dare say the NAS
  problem is me not finding the right setting ( i have been a suse user
  since  suse 5.3 so a long time with yast)  any  ideas  anyone
  
  Feb 15 09:38:05 7-of-9 kernel: [  386.295383] nepomukservices[1462]:
  segfault at 1 ip 7fb2b1ba0eef sp 7fb262ffb6b0 error 4 in
  libsoprano.so.4.3.0[7fb2b1b5c000+f9000]
  Feb 15 09:38:55 7-of-9 kernel: [  435.960894] nepomukservices[1512]:
  segfault at 1 ip 7fee7771eeef sp 7fee5dff96b0 error 4 in
  libsoprano.so.4.3.0[7fee776da000+f9000]
 
 Pete,
 
Hi David

   This is nepomuk going tits up. I don't know if it is nepomuk itself or
 soprano causing the issue.
 
 17:31 nirvana:~/tdegit pacman -Qo /usr/lib/libsoprano.so.4.3.0
 /usr/lib/libsoprano.so.4.3.0 is owned by soprano 2.7.4-1

7-of-9:/ # pacman -Qo /usr/lib/libsoprano.so.4.3.0
/usr/lib/libsoprano.so.4.3.0 is owned by soprano 2.7.4-1

 
  Feb 15 09:41:48 7-of-9 kernel: [  609.009982] device eth0 entered
  promiscuous mode
  Feb 15 09:48:51 7-of-9 dbus[514]: [system] Activating service
  name='org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper' (using servicehelper)
  Feb 15 09:48:51 7-of-9 org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper:
  QDBusConnection:
  system D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may
  misbehave.
 
 Are you explicitly loading dbus in /etc/rc.conf? If so where? In my setup
 (still kde3/Trinity) hal loads dbus, so I bring it up after network, but
 before bind:

 
 DAEMONS=(hwclock syslog-ng network hal named @netfs @ntpd @sshd @dhcp4
 @crond @postfix @mysqld @dovecot @httpd @hylafax @samba @cupsd @sensors
 @upsd @spamd @saslauthd !kdm @avahi-daemon)

DAEMONS=(hwclock syslog-ng dbus network samba netfs crond cupsd ntpd kdm)


 
 Your log above looks like you have powerdevel/kde4 loading (I presume kdm)
 almost immediately after network. You may want to try dbus earlier in the
 list. See: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Rc.conf
 
 snip other D-Bus messages
 
  Feb 15 10:39:30 7-of-9 dbus[514]: [system] Successfully activated service
  'org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper'
 
 What is loading powerdevil.backlighthelper? kdm? I don't run kde4 or kdm,
 but it looks like it wants dbus up and running.

That is a mighty good question it is a deaktop machine  i run 2 21 LCD 
displays  maybe it is detecting those and setting it accordingly one is VGA 
connected the other is on the DVI port 


 
 snip
 
  Cheers   Pete
 
 Others will have to step in and give more specifics. That's all the guesses
 I have.

Thanks  i have a feeling that the latest KDElibs have something to do with it 
as well that is when it started getting silly after the recent update to 
kdelibs . but could also be be that drunken bishop  nepomukservices 

Kmail still keeps chucking out warnings of duplicate messages  and error 
unable to do this that or other to do with the filters but ..

see what transpires it seems this has been around for some time found it on 
google way back  


Cheers   Pete 


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[arch-general] crashes

2012-02-15 Thread P Nikolic
Hi 

I am getting logs full of the  following along with bad crazy Kmail behaviour 
Also problems writing to my NAS drive  i dare say the NAS problem is me not 
finding the right setting ( i have been a suse user since  suse 5.3 so a long 
time with yast)  any  ideas  anyone 

Feb 15 09:38:05 7-of-9 kernel: [  386.295383] nepomukservices[1462]: segfault 
at 1 ip 7fb2b1ba0eef sp 7fb262ffb6b0 error 4 in 
libsoprano.so.4.3.0[7fb2b1b5c000+f9000]
Feb 15 09:38:55 7-of-9 kernel: [  435.960894] nepomukservices[1512]: segfault 
at 1 ip 7fee7771eeef sp 7fee5dff96b0 error 4 in 
libsoprano.so.4.3.0[7fee776da000+f9000]
Feb 15 09:41:48 7-of-9 kernel: [  609.009982] device eth0 entered promiscuous 
mode
Feb 15 09:48:51 7-of-9 dbus[514]: [system] Activating service 
name='org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper' (using servicehelper)
Feb 15 09:48:51 7-of-9 org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper: QDBusConnection: 
system D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may 
misbehave.
Feb 15 09:48:51 7-of-9 dbus[514]: [system] Successfully activated service 
'org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper'
Feb 15 09:50:06 7-of-9 dbus[514]: [system] Activating service 
name='org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper' (using servicehelper)
Feb 15 09:50:06 7-of-9 org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper: QDBusConnection: 
system D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may 
misbehave.
Feb 15 09:50:06 7-of-9 dbus[514]: [system] Successfully activated service 
'org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper'
Feb 15 09:51:21 7-of-9 dbus[514]: [system] Activating service 
name='org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper' (using servicehelper)
Feb 15 09:51:21 7-of-9 org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper: QDBusConnection: 
system D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may 
misbehave.
Feb 15 09:51:21 7-of-9 dbus[514]: [system] Successfully activated service 
'org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper'
Feb 15 10:21:01 7-of-9 -- MARK --
Feb 15 10:36:43 7-of-9 dbus[514]: [system] Activating service 
name='org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper' (using servicehelper)
Feb 15 10:36:43 7-of-9 org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper: QDBusConnection: 
system D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may 
misbehave.
Feb 15 10:36:43 7-of-9 dbus[514]: [system] Successfully activated service 
'org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper'
Feb 15 10:39:13 7-of-9 dbus[514]: [system] Activating service 
name='org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper' (using servicehelper)
Feb 15 10:39:13 7-of-9 org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper: QDBusConnection: 
system D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may 
misbehave.
Feb 15 10:39:13 7-of-9 dbus[514]: [system] Successfully activated service 
'org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper'
Feb 15 10:39:30 7-of-9 dbus[514]: [system] Activating service 
name='org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper' (using servicehelper)
Feb 15 10:39:30 7-of-9 org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper: QDBusConnection: 
system D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may 
misbehave.
Feb 15 10:39:30 7-of-9 dbus[514]: [system] Successfully activated service 
'org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper'
Feb 15 10:39:37 7-of-9 kernel: [ 4078.129329] fuse init (API version 7.17)
Feb 15 10:54:07 7-of-9 kernel: [ 4948.201916] nepomukservices[1811]: segfault 
at 1 ip 7f78f0b3eeef sp 7f78d77fc6b0 error 4 in 
libsoprano.so.4.3.0[7f78f0afa000+f9000]
Feb 15 10:54:56 7-of-9 kernel: [ 4997.642525] nepomukservices[1887]: segfault 
at 1 ip 7f75cb0a2eef sp 7f75b15f06b0 error 4 in 
libsoprano.so.4.3.0[7f75cb05e000+f9000]
Feb 15 10:57:16 7-of-9 dbus[514]: [system] Activating service 
name='org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper' (using servicehelper)
Feb 15 10:57:16 7-of-9 org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper: QDBusConnection: 
system D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may 
misbehave.
Feb 15 10:57:16 7-of-9 dbus[514]: [system] Successfully activated service 
'org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper'
Feb 15 10:58:31 7-of-9 dbus[514]: [system] Activating service 
name='org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper' (using servicehelper)
Feb 15 10:58:31 7-of-9 org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper: QDBusConnection: 
system D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may 
misbehave.
Feb 15 10:58:31 7-of-9 dbus[514]: [system] Successfully activated service 
'org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper'
Feb 15 10:59:46 7-of-9 dbus[514]: [system] Activating service 
name='org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper' (using servicehelper)
Feb 15 10:59:46 7-of-9 org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper: QDBusConnection: 
system D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may 
misbehave.
Feb 15 10:59:46 7-of-9 dbus[514]: [system] Successfully activated service 
'org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper'


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[arch-general] Kmail crashes

2012-02-14 Thread P Nikolic
Hi all .

Kmail seems to have developed a like for just vanishing   like bang gone   .

I had to reboot the box this morning to get kmail to start at all  as in power 
off reboot  then it can up with no mails listed  no inbox nothing  another 
reboot and it came up ok  but now just vanishes  from the screen  this was 
after yesterdays updates   pacman  -Suy   it had been reasonably ok prior to 
that  apart from the filters dont work very well (no where near as good as the 
non akondaified version

Pete .
 
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Re: [arch-general] Kmail crashes

2012-02-14 Thread P Nikolic
On Tuesday 14 Feb 2012 08:22:46 P Nikolic wrote:
 Hi all .
 
 Kmail seems to have developed a like for just vanishing   like bang gone   .
 
 I had to reboot the box this morning to get kmail to start at all  as in
 power off reboot  then it can up with no mails listed  no inbox nothing 
 another reboot and it came up ok  but now just vanishes  from the screen 
 this was after yesterdays updates   pacman  -Suy   it had been reasonably
 ok prior to that  apart from the filters dont work very well (no where near
 as good as the non akondaified version
 
 Pete .

Futher could it be this is the problem 

14/02/2012 08:10:12 nepomukservices[1234]: segfault at 1 ip 
7fcbde535eef sp 7fcbadff96b0 error 4 in 
libsoprano.so.4.3.0[7fcbde4f1000+f9000]
14/02/2012 08:13:00 nepomukservices[1510]: segfault at 1 ip 
7f3ce7e45eef sp 7f3cdde006b0 error 4 in 
libsoprano.so.4.3.0[7f3ce7e01000+f9000]
14/02/2012 08:13:40 nepomukservices[1834]: segfault at 1 ip 
7f998728eeef sp 7f994fffd6b0 error 4 in 
libsoprano.so.4.3.0[7f998724a000+f9000]
14/02/2012 08:16:03 nepomukservices[1894]: segfault at 1 ip 
7f3fa38c4eef sp 7f3f737fc6b0 error 4 in 
libsoprano.so.4.3.0[7f3fa388+f9000]
14/02/2012 08:16:21 nepomukservices[2049]: segfault at 1 ip 
7f90c50cbeef sp 7f90bb0866b0 error 4 in 
libsoprano.so.4.3.0[7f90c5087000+f9000]
14/02/2012 08:16:59 nepomukservices[2315]: segfault at 1 ip 
7f1e39a02eef sp 7f1e2f9bd6b0 error 4 in 
libsoprano.so.4.3.0[7f1e399be000+f9000]


Found in the Kernel log

Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] Kmail crashes

2012-02-14 Thread P Nikolic
On Tuesday 14 Feb 2012 08:22:46 P Nikolic wrote:
 Hi all .
 
 Kmail seems to have developed a like for just vanishing   like bang gone   .
 
 I had to reboot the box this morning to get kmail to start at all  as in
 power off reboot  then it can up with no mails listed  no inbox nothing 
 another reboot and it came up ok  but now just vanishes  from the screen 
 this was after yesterdays updates   pacman  -Suy   it had been reasonably
 ok prior to that  apart from the filters dont work very well (no where near
 as good as the non akondaified version
 
 Pete .

Could this be down to the update of the kdelibs yesterday  as all was ok ish 
prior to that update ..

Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] Join my network on LinkedIn

2012-02-13 Thread P Nikolic
On Monday 13 Feb 2012 18:20:03 Alfredo Palhares wrote:
 Please avoid things like this.
 
 Just the fact that linkedin reads your email contacts and sends this shows
 the profesionalism of it.

yes i get so many unwanted linkedin mails they are a PITA 

Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] Possible hard drive failure, DMA errors.

2012-02-12 Thread P Nikolic
On Sunday 12 Feb 2012 17:38:12 Jordan Windsor wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Jordan Windsor jorda...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Mauro Santos
  
Snippage

 
 I checked the cables many times, including the SATA ports used, the
 hard drive wouldn't work in any configuration.
 Thanks. (Solution found, get a new hard drive :) )

Hi   

Just a quick word from someone that has been through hel and back with SATA 
drives  get yourself some of the data cable that have a clip to hold them in 
place and even then use a blob of hot melt glue on each connector to stop it 
moving  i have has 2 drives fried by cheap data cables moving around in the 
connector .

It has got the be the worst design for a data connection i have ever seen 
there was some crap around but the SATA ones take the untimat  prize as the 
biggest junk ever designed

Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] DPMS

2012-02-11 Thread P Nikolic
On Saturday 11 Feb 2012 20:36:56 Damjan wrote:
  Morning folk
  
  
  Back to this one again   i need to find a working position for  xset
  -dpms  i am getting sick and tired of every time i reboot i get the darn
  screens turning off i hate that with vengance  if i wqnt them off i turn
  them off simples
  
  So where can i put  the xset command for it to work correctly every time
 
 /etc/rc.local is *NOT* started in the X session so it can not set X
 parameters
 cron also doesn't start the jobs in the X session
 
 
 ~/.xinitrc is only started when running startx
 ~/.xsession is unfortunately not run by most login managers
 
 What you need is ~/.xprofile which is *sourced* by most login managers
 before running your *DE session.
 That's also a place to export some variables that are inherited in all
 your *DE applications.

Ok i have not had to restart the system yet so it is still on the manual xset 
command 

Pete 

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[arch-general] DPMS

2012-02-09 Thread P Nikolic
Morning folk


Back to this one again   i need to find a working position for  xset -dpms  i 
am getting sick and tired of every time i reboot i get the darn screens 
turning off i hate that with vengance  if i wqnt them off i turn them off 
simples 

So where can i put  the xset command for it to work correctly every time 

Thanks 

Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] DPMS

2012-02-09 Thread P Nikolic
On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 10:54:15 Christoph Vigano wrote:
 On 02/09/2012 10:37 AM, P Nikolic wrote:
  Morning folk
  
  
  Back to this one again   i need to find a working position for  xset
  -dpms  i am getting sick and tired of every time i reboot i get the darn
  screens turning off i hate that with vengance  if i wqnt them off i turn
  them off simples
  
  So where can i put  the xset command for it to work correctly every time
  
  Thanks
  
  Pete .
 
 Hi Pete,
 
 you could always put settings like these into your $HOME/.xinitrc,
 that's where I have stored those settings.
 
 --
 Christoph
 AUR, IRC: kritztopf
 BBS, Github: kritter

Hi Christoph

I have tried in there it just gets ignored i know in the suse world i used to 
put it there  but cant get it to behave on Arch which is a pity because  Arch 
is far better in almost every other way ..

Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] DPMS

2012-02-09 Thread P Nikolic
On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 16:11:05 gt wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 09:59:44AM +, P Nikolic wrote:
  On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 10:54:15 Christoph Vigano wrote:
   On 02/09/2012 10:37 AM, P Nikolic wrote:
snip

So where can i put  the xset command for it to work correctly every
time
   
   you could always put settings like these into your $HOME/.xinitrc,
   that's where I have stored those settings.
  
  Hi Christoph
  
  I have tried in there it just gets ignored i know in the suse world i used
  to put it there  but cant get it to behave on Arch which is a pity
  because  Arch is far better in almost every other way ..
 
 How do you login? i.e., which login manager do you use?


i use KDM   


Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] DPMS

2012-02-09 Thread P Nikolic
On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 20:19:06 gt wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 02:13:57PM +, P Nikolic wrote:
  On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 16:11:05 gt wrote:
   How do you login? i.e., which login manager do you use?
  
  i use KDM
 
 I don't think that kdm uses xinitrc by default. You'll have to make it
 use xinitrc. It supports xsession i think. Maybe try symlinking
 ~/.xsession to ~/.xinitrc.


Humm well that dont work either  .

think the easiest way is going to be get rid of KDM and use startkde or 
something   having looked at kdmrc i dont think i can stick it in there  this 
is becoming a spoiler ..


Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] DPMS

2012-02-09 Thread P Nikolic
On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 17:22:44 Madeye wrote:
 On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:46:52 +
 
 P Nikolic p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote:
  On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 20:19:06 gt wrote:
   On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 02:13:57PM +, P Nikolic wrote:
On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 16:11:05 gt wrote:
 How do you login? i.e., which login manager do you use?

i use KDM
   
   I don't think that kdm uses xinitrc by default. You'll have to make
   it use xinitrc. It supports xsession i think. Maybe try symlinking
   ~/.xsession to ~/.xinitrc.
  
  Humm well that dont work either  .
  
  think the easiest way is going to be get rid of KDM and use startkde
  or something   having looked at kdmrc i dont think i can stick it in
  there  this is becoming a spoiler ..
  
  
  Pete .
 
 Have you tried putting it in /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup
 That should be the way to do it with kdm, at least according to this
 webpage:
 http://maketecheasier.com/run-startup-scripts-in-kdm-before-kde-starts/2011/
 12/15

Hi ..

I will give it a try   see what happens 

Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] DPMS

2012-02-09 Thread P Nikolic
On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 19:04:24 P Nikolic wrote:
 On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 17:22:44 Madeye wrote:
  On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:46:52 +
  
  P Nikolic p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote:
   On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 20:19:06 gt wrote:
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 02:13:57PM +, P Nikolic wrote:
 On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 16:11:05 gt wrote:
  How do you login? i.e., which login manager do you use?
 
 i use KDM

I don't think that kdm uses xinitrc by default. You'll have to make
it use xinitrc. It supports xsession i think. Maybe try symlinking
~/.xsession to ~/.xinitrc.
   
   Humm well that dont work either  .
   
   think the easiest way is going to be get rid of KDM and use startkde
   or something   having looked at kdmrc i dont think i can stick it in
   there  this is becoming a spoiler ..
   
   
   Pete .
  
  Have you tried putting it in /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup
  That should be the way to do it with kdm, at least according to this
  webpage:
  http://maketecheasier.com/run-startup-scripts-in-kdm-before-kde-starts/201
  1/ 12/15
 
 Hi ..
 
 I will give it a try   see what happens
 
 Pete .

Right after a bit of hunting   the location is   /usr/share/config/kdm/Xsetup
I have added it will see what happens next reboot


Pete .

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[arch-general] backing up a blackberry phone

2012-02-07 Thread P Nikolic
Hi ..

I have a Balckberry Curve  i could do with backing up again  on suse i used to 
use BarryBackup  has anyone provided this for Arch   or what do people use to 
backup their Balckberrys  ..


Cheers   Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] backing up a blackberry phone

2012-02-07 Thread P Nikolic
On Tuesday 07 Feb 2012 16:45:52 Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
 On 02/07/2012 04:31 PM, P Nikolic wrote:
  Hi ..
  
  I have a Balckberry Curve  i could do with backing up again  on suse i
  used to use BarryBackup  has anyone provided this for Arch   or what do
  people use to backup their Balckberrys  ..
  
  
  Cheers   Pete .
 
 Search AUR. If it isn't in AUR, then likely not. Create your own
 pkgbuild or compile from source. Alternatively, you can make a request
 on the BBS[1].
 
 [1] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewforum.php?id=38


Hi yes looked on AUR cant see it i have the sources down  where can i find info 
on how to create the pkgbuild i built rpm for suse 11.3  so if i can i will do 
the pkgbuilds for arch ..

Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] backing up a blackberry phone (solved)

2012-02-07 Thread P Nikolic
On Tuesday 07 Feb 2012 21:58:38 P Nikolic wrote:
 On Tuesday 07 Feb 2012 16:45:52 Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
  On 02/07/2012 04:31 PM, P Nikolic wrote:
   Hi ..
   
   I have a Balckberry Curve  i could do with backing up again  on suse i
   used to use BarryBackup  has anyone provided this for Arch   or what do
   people use to backup their Balckberrys  ..
   
   
   Cheers   Pete .
  
  Search AUR. If it isn't in AUR, then likely not. Create your own
  pkgbuild or compile from source. Alternatively, you can make a request
  on the BBS[1].
  
  [1] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewforum.php?id=38
 
 Hi yes looked on AUR cant see it i have the sources down  where can i find
 info on how to create the pkgbuild i built rpm for suse 11.3  so if i can i
 will do the pkgbuilds for arch ..
 
 Pete .

Right one of these days i will get used to the lowercase only naming 
convention  found barrybackup on AUR thanks all built and working ..


Pete .

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[arch-general] ntp settings

2012-02-05 Thread P Nikolic
Hi .

I am trying to set the timezone up correctly and setup ntp to run .

I have tried using System Settings in KDE but for some reason it does not 
accept the password  . If i enter the password (root password) it reply's 
failed to Authenticate   and greys everyting out for a few secondsi have 
sudo installed  as that was suggeted as the problem on the previous install 
that crashed and burned  what else is missing   ntp is installed  as well ..


Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] ntp settings

2012-02-05 Thread P Nikolic
On Sunday 05 Feb 2012 21:01:04 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 18:37 +, P Nikolic wrote:
  Hi .
  
  I am trying to set the timezone up correctly and setup ntp to run .
  
  I have tried using System Settings in KDE but for some reason it does not
  accept the password  . If i enter the password (root password) it reply's
  failed to Authenticate   and greys everyting out for a few secondsi
  have sudo installed  as that was suggeted as the problem on the previous
  install that crashed and burned  what else is missing   ntp is installed 
  as well ..
  
  
  Pete .
 
 Are you member of the group wheel? Did you setup sudo using visudo?

Yes to wheel and no to visudo as i dont do vi now if you can joesudo or 
nanosudo then i can get there but vi no hope 

Pete .
 
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Re: [arch-general] ntp settings

2012-02-05 Thread P Nikolic
On Sunday 05 Feb 2012 21:48:54 Lukas Fleischer wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 08:31:11PM +, P Nikolic wrote:
  On Sunday 05 Feb 2012 21:01:04 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
   On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 18:37 +, P Nikolic wrote:
Hi .

I am trying to set the timezone up correctly and setup ntp to run .

I have tried using System Settings in KDE but for some reason it does
not
accept the password  . If i enter the password (root password) it
reply's
failed to Authenticate   and greys everyting out for a few seconds   
i
have sudo installed  as that was suggeted as the problem on the
previous
install that crashed and burned  what else is missing   ntp is
installed
as well ..


Pete .
   
   Are you member of the group wheel? Did you setup sudo using visudo?
  
  Yes to wheel and no to visudo as i dont do vi now if you can joesudo or
  nanosudo then i can get there but vi no hope
 
 `VISUAL=nano visudo`. `VISUAL=joe visudo`.
 
  Pete .

yep sorted thanksjust me and vi do not mix at all never have never will 
same as i could never hang with edlin either   i always use  a TSR editor on 
dos  Sidekickand joe on Linux   

Pete .

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[arch-general] Unable to contact the timeserver

2012-02-05 Thread P Nikolic
Hi ..


Thanks to the helper on the previos thread 

nw another one  when i select an ntp server  enter the password (users 
password)  i get the   Unable to contact the timeserver errori can ping 
the server from a terminal no problem   

Pete .

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