Re: [arch-general] pkgstats api

2016-09-18 Thread Pierre Schmitz

On 18.09.2016 13:14, Chris Stryczynski wrote:

Apologies I sent this through yesterday but without any subject so not
sure if it gets picked up.

I was wondering if there is an API / JSON endpoint for pkgstats?
Saves me having to scrape the page! I'm interested to build a packages
/ aur frontend.


Unfortunately there is no API atm.

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Re: [arch-general] [ArchWiki] Why isn't MediaWiki upgraded to 1.23?

2014-10-10 Thread Pierre Schmitz

Am 11.10.2014 05:22, schrieb Dario Giovannetti:

MediaWiki 1.23.0 (LTS) was released last June, and it's now at 1.23.5
[1], however the ArchWiki is still using the legacy 1.22 version, and
1.23 is being pushed to a separate mw-1.23 branch [2]. Has the
reason for this been discussed publicly, or can it be made public in
this thread?

[1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.23#Release_schedule
[2] https://projects.archlinux.org/vhosts/wiki.archlinux.org.git/

Thank you


Hi,

I simply had no time yet and need to address some issues. I might get to 
it next week though. Btw: the 1.22 branch is still maintained; so no 
need to worry here.


Greetings,

Pierre

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Re: [arch-general] Docked Lenovo T540p Not Recognizing Dual Monitors

2014-06-28 Thread Pierre Schmitz

Am 27.06.2014 17:51, schrieb Jude Lucien:
I unfortunately have a Lenovo T540p laptop and an UltraDock docking 
station.


Plugged into the docking station is a Lenovo monitor via DVI and an 
Ilyama

monitor via VGA.

The monitors are not recognised by xrandr as being separate monitors, 
and

the output mirrors each other.

The output of xrandr -q:

$ xrandr -q
Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 4560 x 1620, maximum 32767 x 32767
eDP1 connected 2880x1620+1680+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y 
axis)

344mm x 193mm
   2880x1620 59.96*+  50.00
   2048x1536 60.00
   1920x1440 60.00
   1856x1392 60.01
   1792x1344 60.01
   1600x1200 60.00
   1400x1050 59.98
   1280x1024 60.02
   1280x960  60.00
   1024x768  60.00
   800x600   60.3256.25
   640x480   59.94
VGA1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
DP1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
HDMI1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
DP2 connected 1680x1050+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
255mm x 255mm
   1680x1050 60.00*+
   1024x768  60.00
   800x600   60.3256.25
   848x480   60.00
   640x480   59.94
HDMI2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
VIRTUAL1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)



eDP1 is my laptop monitor and DP2 is the Lenovo monitor.  Notice the
maximum screen size at the top of the output.  I notice that I have 
more

screen than I can use - how to set that to actual size as well?

But the burning question is how can I get my VGA monitor to be 
recognised?


There is a good chance the cocking station uses MST to provide all the 
monitor outputs. ATM Linux does not support this; good new is that it's 
being worked on: http://airlied.livejournal.com/79388.html


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Re: [arch-general] Heartbleed-bug in OpenSSL 1.0.1 up to 1.0.1f

2014-04-08 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 08.04.2014 17:29, schrieb Neal Oakey:
 Hi,
 
 there is an Bug(1) in OpenSSL 1.0.1 and as far as I'm informed this has
 only been patched in 1.0.1g.
 Many other Distributions have build there own patch, what is with us?
 Currently we have 1.0.1.f-2 which is effected as far as I can know.
 
 Greetings
 Neal
 
 1) (sry, German)
 http://www.golem.de/news/sicherheitsluecke-keys-auslesen-mit-openssl-1404-105685.html

I actually did push an updated package within 3 hours after the public
announcement. I think that is pretty reasonable especially since we are
not among the fortunate distros and companies that were notified
beforehand.

Greetings,

Pierre

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Upgrading Apache to 2.4

2014-03-11 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 12.03.2014 00:23, schrieb Eduardo Machado:
 2014-03-10 15:21 GMT-03:00 Anatol Pomozov anatol.pomo...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi

 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Sebastiaan Lokhorst
 sebastiaanlokho...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks for taking the effort to finally update Apache!
 
  When trying to start Apache with PHP, I get the same error as Rene.
 
  Just to be clear, what is the recommended way to run Apache+PHP now? Will
  mod_php5 will still be supported?

 Ok, it seems that main source of questions is php-apache package that
 causes Apache is running a threaded MPM, but your PHP Module is not
 compiled to be threadsafe.  You need to recompile PHP. error at
 apache start.

 The answer is that you need to switch apache MPM from default
 mod_mpm_event to slower but mod_php-compatible mod_mpm_prefork.  See
 more information in at wiki page
 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LAMP#Troubleshooting
 BTW kudos to our users who already updated wiki for Apache2.4!

 And of course anyone is welcome to create a threadsafe version of
 php-apache in AUR so it can be used with mpm_event.

 
 I was studying the php package to build an php fully compatible with apache
 2.4.
 I understand that php is the base package and the others are split packages
 (many)...
 
 So, would you know if it is necessary to rebuilt all the php packages or
 only the php-apache?
 Thanks in advance.
 
 A question, i saw some references [1] that the apache MPM can be
 dinamically changed. Is it true in Arch?
 
 
 [1] http://kb.parallels.com/en/113007

You need to recompile the whole PHP package and all external modules
like xcache etc.. Note that there is a good chance you run into issues
with esp. modules.

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Re: [arch-general] Move from libjpeg-turbo to mozjpeg

2014-03-08 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 08.03.2014 04:32, schrieb N30N:
 Hi there,
 
 Mozilla have made a fork of the libjpeg-turbo package called mozjpeg,
 which features improved encoding:
 https://blog.mozilla.org/research/2014/03/05/introducing-the-mozjpeg-project/
 
 I'd like to propose making the switch. The library configuration
 defaults are the same as for libjpeg-turbo, in order to make transitions
 as painless as possible. A PKGBUILD can be found on the AUR:
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/mozjpeg/
 
 
 Thanks for your consideration,
 N30N.

It'd be better if they'd push their changes upstream. I don't see any
point in forking here.

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Re: [arch-general] nginx in a linux container

2014-02-23 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 23.02.2014 10:02, schrieb arnaud gaboury:
 Hi all,
 
 I have a running container managed by systemd-nspawn.
 
 I want now install/set up nginx inside it, following Arch wiki.
 
 gab@dahlia ➤➤ ~ # mkdir $JAIL/dev
 mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/srv/hhtp/dev’: No such file or directory
  ???

There is a typo hhtp instead of http.

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Re: [arch-general] Forum registration requires INSANE captcha.

2014-02-10 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 10.02.2014 15:42, schrieb Feliz Xett:
 Hi all!
 
 I hope it's ok to bother this list with this question/suggestion/rant about
 the forum registration process.

Hi,

I implemented this captcha some years ago as we had massive spam and
troll problems. We are not just fighting spam bots but actual humans
here. These typical graphical captchas with distorted text can only be
solved by computers there days (such irony). I also tried textual
questions like Who invented Arch Linux?; but as this can be easily
solved by Wikipedia/Google, it did not hold for long.

So far the current method works fine, the vast majority of Arch users is
able to bypass it and our forums and wiki wont get spammed making our
moderators live a little easier.

I am open for suggestions though, to solve this issue in a more elegant
way. (also note that someone needs to actually implement this then)

Greetings,

Pierre

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Re: [arch-general] Donate to Arch Linux

2013-09-26 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 26.09.2013 08:56, schrieb Martti Kühne:
 On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Ralf Mardorf
 ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 [...]
 https://wiki.archlinux.de/title/Spenden

 JFTR in Germany it's more common to make anonymous donations and
 surprise :) !!! Alle Spenden sind anonym. translated All donations
 are anonymous.

 The usage of the donations is documented at
 https://wiki.archlinux.de/title/Spendenkonto-Umsätze

 
 
 Uhhhm
 
 To me it is not apparent if this is the same thing or if this is
 archlinux.de specific, and I haven't found the section which would
 clarify. Just because that's Pierre's account there, I *tend* to
 believe it's the same thing, but I'm struggling to find more
 indication for that. Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use
 Even Go Want to do Look More Like?
 
 cheers!
 mar77i

Interesting, I thought I made that clear. These donations are only used
to pay for the server that power archlinux.de and related services. If
you donate through SPI this money is used to pay the bills for the
archlinux.org-Server.

Greetings,

Pierre

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Re: [arch-general] Arch handbook as PDF

2013-02-13 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 13.02.2013 23:29, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
 Hi :)
 
 is there an up to date handbook, beginner's guide or even better the
 Wiki available as PDF? I already found outdated PDFs.
 
 Languages: English and/or German

I did not check it's content yet, but someone wrote a book about the
Arch installation. It's available as PDF and in German:
http://www.schreibdichte.de/download/

Greetings,

Pierre

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Re: [arch-general] Winter Cleanup of [community]

2013-01-19 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 19.01.2013 17:54, schrieb Alexander Rødseth:
 Another positive development is that all the ibus-packages that nobody
 seemed to want to adopt, are no longer orphans. Thanks goes out to
 Felix Yan, one of our latest TUs, for that.
 
 The list of unneeded orphans can be viewed at this page:
 https://www.archlinux.org/devel/reports/unneeded-orphans/

Be careful, this list does not contain makedepends. So don't blindly
remove those packages.

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Re: [arch-general] Secure Boot Support

2012-12-05 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 05.12.2012 10:36, schrieb Thomas Bächler:
 We don't understand what to do here at all. That's why we the developer
 who will be packaging these things needs access to such a machine
 himself. I'd really have fun figuring this out, but I currently don't
 want to spend money on a new computer.

I don't plan to buy such a mainboard in the near future either. but in
general I would prefer to create our own keys and let the user import
those into the firmware. This way we would not depend on prebuild boot
loaders signed by Microsoft or anybody else. Security-wise this would
also be much saner.

But Thomas is right: this has to be implemented and tested by those who
own such hardware; which at this time we don't.

Greetings,

Pierre

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Re: [arch-general] Still no word on Apache httpd 2.4

2012-10-26 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 26.10.2012 13:58, schrieb Florian Pritz:
 Some modules aren't compatible with 2.4. Around a month ago I heard at
 least mod_php and mod_fastcgi are having problems, but I don't know if
 those have been fixed yet.

PHP supports Apache 2.4 since March.

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Re: [arch-general] Iinstallation program

2012-09-21 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 21.09.2012 10:12, schrieb Frederic Bezies:
 On 21/09/2012 10:03, Jan Litwiński wrote:
 When will Arch have more friendly installation program like Ubuntu,
 Fedora, or opwnSUSE. I installed Arch some years ago and it was very
 difficult for me.

 
 If you're looking for a more simpler installation program, check
 manjaro linux - http://www.manjaro.org/ or Chakra Linux -
 http://www.chakra-project.org/

Just keep in mind that you are not going to end up with an Arch
installation here. This is fine, but it seems people forget about this
on a regular basis when they ask for help on forums or our bug tracker.

Back to topic: the Arch installation will never get a lot easier as it
is now.

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Re: [arch-general] talking arch disk and instructions were both outdated here

2012-07-28 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 28.07.2012 17:52, schrieb Jude DaShiell:
 I'll have to download a newer copy of the talking arch disk among other 
 things that takes account of pacstrap and uses the arch scripts rather 
 than the framework to install archlinux.  The braille instructions I made 
 are also outdated so I'll fix that after some reading.  Earlier this 
 morning I got through the partitioning and formatting of a hard drive and 
 since the material I have on archlinux on this end is that outdated, I 
 decided to install debian on the large hard drive only archlinux could 
 install on earlier.  Debian would always thrash the disk before.  This 
 time no disk thrashing.  Apparently use of archlinux to give debian some 
 clues worked.  I'll put archlinux on some of my smaller drives in the 
 future when I figure out how to do that now that the talking archlinux I 
 have no longer finds grub to install it.

Chris Brannon just released a new iso of the talking arch system:
http://the-brannons.com/tarch/

Greetings,

Pierre

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Re: [arch-general] Arch install scripts : feedback and questions.

2012-07-18 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 18.07.2012 18:30, schrieb fredbezies:
 Hello.
 
 Just done an install using arch-install-scripts, and it wasn't so bad.
 The only bad thing is that grub2 is not available. I busted my
 installed system trying to install grub 2.0rc1 (wrong UUID in grub.cfg
 file). I finally installed syslinux while trying to understand what
 happened.
 
 So, great tools, not really that hard to use. Here are my questions :
 
 1) Any hope to get grub2 as default grub in a future version ?
 2) What about GPT tools ?
 3) What about tweaking /etc/rc.conf before first reboot ?
 
 Thanks for your kind answers.

grub 2 is currently in testing. Once this moves to core and grub1 will
get removed from the repo we will include it for the next iso.

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Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-02 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 02.07.2012 01:47, schrieb Tom Gundersen:
 On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com wrote:
 But as has been suggested maybe Arch should choose a different upstream
 for this kind of information. Please open your mind a little, a false
 standard is no standard at all.
 
 I had a look at ICU, but could not find any satisfactory
 documentation. They claim
 to take their data from the same ISO standard that we already use,
 but I could
 find no explanation for the discrepancy.
 
 To be a bit constructive: IMHO any proposal for a change must be made
 in general
 terms, and not by special-casing based on this issue. So, if we can
 find a new upstream
 that is comparable to ISO3166, but at the same time is somehow more
 neutral, that
 would be something to consider I guess.

In addition to all the arguments why we cannot simply change country
names and we are in general the wrong people to ask for there are also
technical reasons to not make up our own names here. All kinds of
software and libraries support this naming standard which makes it
possible to map country names. For example I use geoip and our
mirrorlist to redirect users to the best mirror within their country.
There are probably other use cases which rely on the country names being
standardized.

So yes, if you think your country is named wrongly in the standard you
should change this standard or create a new one which then needs to be
accepted by most software projects. We probably ship a lot of packages
using these names and patching all these ourselves is not the way to go.
And even if we would want to, on what should we base a decision?
Obviously there are different opinions how certain countries should be
named.

However, one could switch to the two or three letter naming standard
which hopefully would be less controversial. It would also be less human
readable, but at least one would keep it technically valid.

Greetings,

Pierre

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Re: [arch-general] Location of sample websites

2012-06-08 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 08.06.2012 22:59, schrieb Jayesh Badwaik:
 Hi,
 
 I am using wordpress and I found that the sample wordpress site is 
 installed in the /srv/http location.  I find it convenient that all such 
 sample/getting started things should be actually installed someplace 
 like /usr/share/wordpress/ and then anyone who wants to use the site can 
 copy paste the files to wherever he wants and then use them accordingly. 
 
 Is there any reason for the current behaviour? Am I missing some aspect?
 Thanks for your reply in advance.

No package should install anything into /srv (it's kind of a /home for
services; see FHS). If it does it is a bug that should be reported.

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Re: [arch-general] UEFI secure boot

2012-06-04 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 04.06.2012 20:18, schrieb Genes MailLists:
 Just to add another fedora link:
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pjones/Features/SecureBoot
 
   Sounds like they till plan to make use of the UEFI CA $99 signing
 service from Microsoft.
 
Do you think Arch should follow suit or require instead that Secure
 Boot is disabled?

No.

1) Do not buy locked down hardware if possible.
2) On x86 you should be able to disable secure boot or put our signing
key in there.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cleaning up orphaned packages

2012-03-04 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 24.02.2012 17:06, schrieb Lukas Fleischer:
 Apart from that, +1 to this idea. I already checked the list of unneeded
 orphans and there's 20 packages I'd like to maintain if they aren't
 picked up in [extra]...

Send me a list of these packages. But ensure they are still orphan and
are not a dep or makedep of any package in core/extra.

Greetigns,

Pierre

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cleaning up orphaned packages

2012-03-04 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 24.02.2012 16:45, schrieb Bartłomiej Piotrowski:
 On 02/24/2012 04:19 PM, Pierre Schmitz wrote:
 * If a TU wants to maintain an orphan that is currently in [extra],
 please let us know.
 
 Then if you could move following packages to [community], I'd be glad to
 take them:
 * gftp
 * midori
 * orage
 * ristretto
 * pwgen
 * vsftpd

I moved these into community:
gftp
ristretto
vsftpd

midori and pwgen already in community
orage is part of the fce4-goodies group with packages in extra

Greetings,

Pierre

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] kernel config change in testing

2012-02-21 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 21.02.2012 19:49, schrieb Keshav P R:
 On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 23:08, Tobias Powalowski
 tobias.powalow...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi
 new kernel in testing has:
 https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/25341
 - ext4 manages now ext2/ext3 and ext4

 Please report if any issues happen, here all went fine on all machines.
 I had not to change any config file like fstab or mkinitcpio.conf.

 
 No x86_64 kernel
 https://www.archlinux.org/packages/testing/x86_64/linux/? Why is
 x86_64 still treated as a second class citizen? tpowa?

It is not. Both architectures are always released at the exact same
time. (There might just be a delay in the web interface here) Also
x86_64 is used by the majority of arch developers and users.


Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] broken PKGDEST?

2012-02-14 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 14.02.2012 16:05, schrieb Tobias Powalowski:
 Am 14.02.2012 15:58, schrieb Tobias Powalowski:
 i don't quite understand your workflow. can you describe them in simple
 steps and point where is failing and how?


 ok I think we come a bit closer,
 Problem is that both chroots use different PKGDEST,

That cannot be supported in a sane way. Why would you need that anyway?

 the devtools before didn't use PKGDEST and just checked for the symlinks
 which are working.
 Can we change that back, do I need to change my config?

Why don't you just use the archbuild aliases (testing-x86_64-build
etc.) for your packages?

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Re: [arch-general] Xorg 1.12 moves soon to testing for stabilization phase

2012-02-12 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 12.02.2012 10:48, schrieb fredbezies:
 2012/2/12 Andreas Radke andy...@archlinux.org
 
 [Xorg 1.12]
 - State of closed drivers: Nvidia has a beta pkg out with Xorg 1.12
  support. Let's pray it's already in usable state. Catalyst (AUR)
  users will stay in the dark as on every major Xorg release for a
  while.

 
 Are nvidia beta drivers being built with this release ? I think I will do
 an IgnoreGroup = Xorg for some days ;)

Yes, nvidia drivers are in the same repos.

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Re: [arch-general] Dependency: pyalpm: requires pacman3.6 (workaround install pyalpm?)

2012-01-17 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 17.01.2012 21:32, schrieb Karol Blazewicz:
 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:26 PM, David C. Rankin
 drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:
 David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
 
 This mail didn't make much sense to me untill the very last line ...
 
 You can solve it in a number of ways e.g. remove pyalpm, update
 pacman, update pyalpm if available:
 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1042280#p1042280

The best way is to add pyalpm to SyncFirst in pacman.conf and just run
-Syu.

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Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Don't Panic Fresh Install

2012-01-15 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 15.01.2012 21:35, schrieb Thomas  Misilo:
 Hello,
 
 I was wondering if there are any mirrors out there that still support
 upgrading from Don't Panic? As it seems the directory structure has
 changed a lot.
 
 Before you ask WTF, I just want to say that this is the only version
 of the ISO I have found that actually boots the installer and doesn't
 panic.  (Due to only have 256MB of ram)
 
 Thanks,
 
 Tom

There is really no easy way to update from such an old system. You will
run into all kinds of problems. Not only did the repo layout, pacman
itself or the package compression change. You might also have problems
running our new packages which require a newer kernel etc..

In short: It's not worth trying.

Better: Tell us why the most recent ISO wont work for you. Afaik you
can even install arch with just 64MB of RAM; even though such a system
wont be of much use these days.

Greetings,

Pierre

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Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Don't Panic Fresh Install

2012-01-15 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 15.01.2012 21:58, schrieb Thomas  Misilo:
 I was only trying the archboot cd, which wasn't working. Using the
 newest installer works. Sorry for not trying that first! That's what I
 get for not labeling discs and just trying them :)

archboot copies the whole image to ram first as everything is in a
giant initramfs. No wonder it wont work with 256MB of RAM.

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Re: [arch-general] pacman new generation

2011-11-21 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 21.11.2011 20:43, schrieb Bernardo Barros:
 On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Thorsten Töpper
 atsut...@freethoughts.de wrote:
 Seriously, it's probably meant like this but your mail reads like a
 Hey why don't you learn $INSERT_LANG_HERE and rewrite your whole
 system.

 
 Hello Thorsten, no, you got it wrong.
 
 It's about ideas not languages. I think it makes sense in a rolling
 release OS like Arch.
 
 Ideas like for example
 
 pacman --rollback
 
 Would be possible then

We have an old bug reprot about this. See my comment at
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8585#comment47567

With btrfs this might be possible to implement in a clean and sane way.
And as I said back then: This feature does not really belong in a
package manager; even though ti could trigger snapshot creation etc.

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[arch-general] [signoff] reiserfsprogs 3.6.21-4

2011-11-17 Thread Pierre Schmitz
hi all,

there is a simple rebuild waiting for signoffs in testing. As this
packages does not have a single signoff since two weeks I am calling out
to everybody (Dev, TU and users) using it. Just let me know if the
package still does its intended job.

Greetings,

Pierre

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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.0.6-2

2011-10-09 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 09.10.2011 07:43, schrieb Tobias Powalowski:
 Could you point me to some more info about this (I couldn't find any
 bug reports)? I'm interested in following up on it so we can one day
 move to ondemand by default. For what it's worth, fedora and opensuse
 have been using ondemand for some time. Is it known why we are seeing
 problems and they are not?
 
 Thats why I changed it, Thomas comes up with the concerns.
 You can always use cpufreq to change to whatever you need though.
 I have no issues with changing it again to ondemand or let it on
 performance.
 Shall we vote about it?
 
 greetings
 tpowa

It does not matter that much. The cpufreq modules are not loaded by
default. But that might change some day. On my old Opteron cpu I noticed
an increased response time when using the ondemand governor. On the
other hand I have seen cheap notebooks which will overheat easily if you
don't clock down the cpu most of the time. I think Thomas was concerned
about p4-clockmod. But this isn't a real clock scaling driver anyway; so
shouldn't be used with cpufreq.

In short: the user has to decide what is best for them.

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Re: [arch-general] Kernel.org compromised. Are Arch users safe?

2011-09-01 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 14:47:40 +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Ionut Biru ib...@archlinux.org wrote:
 On 09/01/2011 03:30 PM, Paulo Guedes wrote:

 Since mirrors.kernel.org is one of the main mirrors used in Arch what's
 the
 best measureus to take right know? Format the computer and reinstall arch?
 Uninstall any update since last week?

 kernel.org != mirrors.kernel.org just to be clear
 
 In any case, the packages on mirrors.kernel.org have been checked, and
 they are not compromised.
 
 -t

I cannot find the original mail but only this copy (someone might want
to check the signature) http://pastebin.com/BKcmMd47 This states that
also the mirrors might have been affected. 

While we can quite easily ensure that there are no compromised packages
atm we don't know if there were some in the past. But this is in no way
different than using any other mirror; in general using any Arch mirror
is insecure. That's why some smart people are working hard on package
signing.

Greetings,

Pierre

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[arch-general] PHP: Dropping Suhosin patch and PEAR

2011-08-18 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Hi all,

The recent PHP 5.3.7 packages will be shipped without the Suhosin patch
and there also wont be a PEAR package.

While I like the suhosin project I have to assume that this is stalled
at best. There are no new releases since PHP 5.3.4 was released. I also
wasn't able to contact the author to ask about the current state. Even
though porting the patch to new minor php releases is quite easy, I
don't feel comfortable about this; doing so wont also be the Arch way.
If anybody knows more about the current state of Suhosin, please let me
know. Note: I'll keep the Suhosin extension as long as it works though.

In addition to this I removed the php-pear package. The main problem is
that the recent version of PEAR does not support the installation to a
destination directory. There are quite a lot of bug reports about this;
some of them are very old.* I am not really interested to add any hacks
to make it working. This has to be fixed upstream once and for all;
unless they really don't want to have pear redistributed. For anybody
interested in using pear I'd suggest creating a separate PKGBUILD and
put it into AUR. The Fedora spec file might be a good start:
  
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=php-pear.git;a=blob;f=php-pear.spec

Greetings,

Pierre


*) https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=18568
   http://pear.php.net/bugs/bug.php?id=6154
   https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=50509
   https://pear.php.net/bugs/bug.php?id=17067

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] PHP: Dropping Suhosin patch and PEAR

2011-08-18 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:32:15 +0200, Pierre Schmitz wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 The recent PHP 5.3.7 packages will be shipped without the Suhosin patch
 and there also wont be a PEAR package.
 
 While I like the suhosin project I have to assume that this is stalled
 at best. There are no new releases since PHP 5.3.4 was released. I also
 wasn't able to contact the author to ask about the current state. Even
 though porting the patch to new minor php releases is quite easy, I
 don't feel comfortable about this; doing so wont also be the Arch way.
 If anybody knows more about the current state of Suhosin, please let me
 know. Note: I'll keep the Suhosin extension as long as it works though.

Now that is perfect timing :-)
https://twitter.com/#!/i0n1c/status/104194056384552960

I'll have a look at that then.


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Re: [arch-general] Installation images in need of an update?

2011-06-04 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 10:38:01 +0200, JM wrote:
 Hello,
 
 The current installer images are from 05.2010 which is over a year
 old. I was unable to install Arch on my new laptop using this
 installer due to insufficient hardware support in kernel 2.6.33. Are
 there any plans to update it?
 
 Regards,
 JM

Have a look at https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=119203

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Re: [arch-general] Status of kernel26-2.6.39-1 in [testing]?

2011-05-21 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Sat, 21 May 2011 16:01:35 +0200, Marek Otahal wrote:
 Hi, 
 I wanted to ask what's happening with current kernel in testing? I
 can get it
 from testing repositories for about two days, but haven't seen a sign-off 
 thread yet. The reason I'm asking is that I wanted to say NOsignoff
 for me on
 i686. The boot process gets stuck at 'loading modules' before stage
 3. Tried -
 fallback - the same. 
 I'll post more info if needed (but I suppose you also know it's broken..). 
 Thanks, Mark

If you found a bug you should report it on the tracker. Otherwise your
concern might be lost.

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Re: [arch-general] makepkg openjd ca-certificates-java

2011-05-09 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Sun, 8 May 2011 18:16:13 -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've tried building openjdk, but it has a make dependency upon
 ca-certificates-java, and ca-certificates-jave also has a make
 dependency upon openjdk:
 
 http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/plain/openjdk6/repos/extra-x86_64/PKGBUILD
 http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/plain/ca-certificates-java/repos/extra-any/PKGBUILD
 
 How is that resolved when building?
 
 Reson for asking is building on non x86 architecture...
 
 Thanks,

Technically openjdk does not depend on ca-certificates-java.

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Re: [arch-general] Pruning the bugtracker

2011-05-08 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Wed, 4 May 2011 20:43:27 +0200, JM wrote:
 I have browsed through all High and Medium severity bugreports and
 categorized some of them here:
 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/User:Fijam .

Maybe we should also consider a more aggressive approach. There are
currently more than 600 open bugs. Instead of reviewing each of them we
could look for a way to automatically close quite old bugs and ask the
reporter to request a re-open if the bug is still valid.

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Re: [arch-general] Drop non-free ?! (Was: Commit in ffmpeg/trunk)

2011-05-07 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Sat, 7 May 2011 12:05:21 -0400, Loui Chang wrote:
 On Sat 07 May 2011 18:32 +0300, Ionut Biru wrote:
 On 05/07/2011 06:28 PM, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote:
 Ionut Biru wrote:
 
 drop nonfree stuff, fix headers
 
 Modified: PKGBUILD
 ===
 --- PKGBUILD   2011-05-07 11:29:11 UTC (rev 122937)
 +++ PKGBUILD   2011-05-07 11:51:04 UTC (rev 122938)
 @@ -5,26 +5,28 @@
 
 -depends=('bzip2' 'lame' 'sdl' 'libvorbis' 'faac' 'xvidcore' 'zlib' 'x264' 
 'libtheora' 'opencore-amr' 'alsa-lib' 'libvdpau' 'libxfixes' 
 'schroedinger' 'libvpx' 'libva' 'openjpeg')
 +depends=('bzip2' 'lame' 'sdl' 'libvorbis' 'xvidcore' 'zlib' 'x264' 
 'libtheora' 'opencore-amr' 'alsa-lib' 'libvdpau' 'libxfixes' 
 'schroedinger' 'libvpx' 'libva' 'openjpeg')
 ---enable-libfaac \
 ---enable-nonfree \
 
 Is faac support in ffmpeg causing trouble to other applications or was
 changed for licensing reasons?

 licensing. if you need faac you should use abs to recompile it
 
 Gah. All this licensing stuff is starting to get really annoying.
 Did Arch receive a patent license violation notice or something?
 
 What is Arch's official policies when it comes to patents?
 It could have some widespread implications for the distro.
 
 Or the distro could purchase or otherwise aquire licenses to all claimed
 patents...  ha...  ha...

Licenses and patents are different things. Some stuff cannot legally
distributed and we respect that. This is usually proprietary/non-free
software or packages like the Microsoft fonts. (Wasn't there also some
mplayer codec pack that included some Windows dlls?)

On the other hand there are software patents valid in some countries
which apply also to a completely free implementation. This means there
are a bunch of packages which you are not allowed to use in the US for
example even though they are licensed under e.g. the GPL.

Greetings,

Pierre

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Re: [arch-general] Status of dcron

2011-05-02 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Sun, 1 May 2011 21:43:42 -0400, Jim Pryor wrote:
 On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 04:06:47AM +0300, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote:
 Jim Pryor wrote:
  v4.5 was released as a tarball at 
  http://www.jimpryor.net/linux/dcron.html; but Paul won't be able to 
  package it right away.
 
 Pierre already built a 4.5 package, which is current in testing
 http://www.archlinux.org/packages/testing/i686/dcron
 
 Super, thanks.
 
 I suggest these changes:
 
 --- PKGBUILD2011-05-01 21:30:00.046676526 -0400
 +++ PKGBUILD.new2011-05-01 21:35:10.066676512 -0400
 @@ -38,5 +38,8 @@
 install -D -m0600 extra/root.crontab $pkgdir/var/spool/cron/root 
 install -D -m755 extra/crond.rc $pkgdir/etc/rc.d/crond
 install -D -m0644 extra/crond.conf $pkgdir/etc/conf.d/crond
 -   install -D -m644 extra/crond.logrotate $pkgdir/etc/logrotate.d/crond
 +   #install -D -m644 extra/crond.logrotate $pkgdir/etc/logrotate.d/crond
 +   install -D -m644 extra/crontab.vim
 $pkgdir/usr/share/vim/vimfiles/ftplugin/crontab.vim
 +   sed -i -e 's=/var/spool/cron/cronstamps=/var/spool/cronstamps='
 extra/prune-cronstamps
 +   install -D -m755 extra/prune-cronstamps
 $pkgdir/etc/cron.d/prune-cronstamps
  }
 
 
 But none of those are especially urgent. Note that the logrotate file
 should not be installed if there continues to be a reference to
 /var/log/crond.log in /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf. I distribute it as
 an example for users or distros who don't use dcron with syslog.

Thanks for the hint. Just applied that to the package.

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Re: [arch-general] Status of dcron

2011-05-01 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Sun, 1 May 2011 03:33:37 -0400, Jim Pryor wrote:
 ...
 As I said, my source tree contains a large refactoring push. I have
 deferred this, and back-ported some important bugfixes, and a few simple
 features or packaging changes, to a v4.5 release. I'll push this to
 http://www.jimpryor.net/linux/dcron.html shortly; and I hope it can be
 packaged and pushed to [testing]. I'd welcome any testing and feedback
 any of you might be able to do.
 
 I will push those changes, as well as all the other deferred parts of my
 source tree, to dcron's git repo at http://repo.or.cz/w/dcron.git. And
 I'll update the dcron-git package on AUR, at
 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33377. If any of you were
 interested and able to test this, I'd very much welcome such feedback
 too.
 
 These will all be pushed in the next couple of hours.

Could you also tag the releases in git (maybe you just forgot to push
them using git push --tags)

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] New list: arch-projects

2011-03-28 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:56:07 +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote:
 A new list has been created: arch-projects.
 
 This list is for development discussion, patches and pull requests for
 initscripts, netcfg, dbscripts, devtools (and maybe other projects,
 those are the ones I could think of).
 
 Anyone is free to subscribe, but please, no user discussions (keep those
 to the forums or arch-general).
 
 Fun fact: There was a mailing list called arch-projects once, and it has
 been deleted, but the old archives are still there.

It would be nice if people would prefix the mails with the prject's
name e.g. ([netcfg] or [devtools]). Otherwiese there is quite a chance
that mails will get lost; especially if the traffic on that list
increases.

Greetings,

Pierre
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Re: [arch-general] Rail Model font for coders

2011-01-23 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 04:40:12 -0500 (EST),
hare_krsna_hare_krsna_krsna_krsna_hare_hare_hare_rama_hare_rama_rama_rama_hare_h...@lavabit.com
wrote:
 There is a font for coders called Rail Model, please include it with Linux
 [..]
 Meeku

I have banned this account due to spam. A note to everybody else: Don't
feed the trolls. This makes you as annoying as the troll himself and you
might get banned as well.

Have a nice day,

Pierre

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Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-28 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 13:27:47 +0100, Damjan gdam...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've put PulseAudio into [testing] some time ago, but received no
 feedback on this.

 This either means it works well, or nobody uses it.

 So I'm asking for it now, especially from GNOME and KDE users running
 PulseAudio.

 I tested it a while on KDE and as expected it has downsides compared to
 using plain alsa. :-) I lost all controls in kmix except of only one
 volume control.
 
 The benefit is that Flash will not f**k and lock your sound card.

These problems are solved since years. I even made a test. Playing two
flash videos, playing music through mplayer with alsa and starting an
old game which uses oss. All this works just fine with plain alsa.

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Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-26 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 21:34:18 +0100, Jan Steffens
jan.steff...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've put PulseAudio into [testing] some time ago, but received no
 feedback on this.
 
 This either means it works well, or nobody uses it.
 
 So I'm asking for it now, especially from GNOME and KDE users running
 PulseAudio.

I tested it a while on KDE and as expected it has downsides compared to
using plain alsa. :-) I lost all controls in kmix except of only one
volume control. Xine based players like e.g. Dragonplayer just crash.
But Smplayer is a way better and didn't had any problems.

In general I don't see any need to use pulse-audio; except Gnome users
who wont have any choice in future. But I guess some day it will just
work without problems; atm pulse audio support is in early state in some
apps.

I am still happy to have my good old Soundblaster Live which does
mixing in hardware. ;-)

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Python rebuild on its way to [testing]

2010-10-04 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 23:01:03 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee ngoo...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Just a question on this topic - does the new [staging] mean that
 [testing] should always be complete (ie. not having any
 unupdated-for-lib-bump packages)?

Yes, that was the whole idea; to not break or freeze testing
intentionally.

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Re: [arch-general] [PATCH] commitpkg: error out if ~/staging/$repo doesn't exist

2010-09-15 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:36:53 +0200, Florian Pritz bluew...@xssn.at
wrote:
 Signed-off-by: Florian Pritz bluew...@xssn.at
 ---
  commitpkg |2 +-
  1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
 
 diff --git a/commitpkg b/commitpkg
 index 03488e0..86485dc 100755
 --- a/commitpkg
 +++ b/commitpkg
 @@ -119,7 +119,7 @@ for _arch in ${ar...@]}; do
   fi
  
   echo -n 'uploading '
 - rsync -p --chmod 'ug=rw,o=r' -c -h -L --progress $rsyncopts
 --partial ${pkgfile} -e ssh $server:staging/$repo || abort
 + rsync -p --chmod 'ug=rw,o=r' -c -h -L --progress $rsyncopts
 --partial ${pkgfile} -e ssh $server:staging/$repo/$pkgfile ||
 abort
   done
   archrelease $repo-${_arch} || abort
  done

Applied, thanks. Please cc me when sending patches; otherwise they
might just get lost.

Greetings,

Pierre

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Re: [arch-general] [PATCH] Ignore empty lines when grepping host's mirrorlist

2010-09-11 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:46:48 +0300, Evangelos Foutras
foutre...@gmail.com wrote:
 ---
  mkarchroot |2 +-
  1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
 
 diff --git a/mkarchroot b/mkarchroot
 index fe436f7..5cb9a0f 100755
 --- a/mkarchroot
 +++ b/mkarchroot
 @@ -73,7 +73,7 @@ if [ -z $cache_dir ]; then
  fi
  
  if [ -f /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist ]; then
 - host_mirror=$(grep -v '^#' -m1 /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist | sed -E
 's#/os/(i686|x86_64)#/os/\$arch#g')
 + host_mirror=$(grep -E -v '^(#|$)' -m1 /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist |
 sed -E 's#/os/(i686|x86_64)#/os/\$arch#g')
  fi
  if [ -z ${host_mirror} ]; then
   host_mirror='Server = 
 http://mirrors.kernel.org/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch'

Please at least at me to CC next time or open a bug report. Otherwise
there is a chance I just miss those patches.

However, this mirror detections wasn't that great anyway. I am now
using pacman to get the used mirror:
http://projects.archlinux.org/devtools.git/commit/?id=db7a90ccd280a84bdbdef078ed766aa321ed317a

This should always work even if you specify your mirrors directly in
pacman.conf or include a mirrorlist with a different name.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] xz 4 .999.9beta_174_g41bc-1

2010-09-09 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:02:02 +0200, Florian Pritz
bluew...@server-speed.net wrote:
 On 09.09.2010 11:55, Pierre Schmitz wrote:
 this will hopefully the last update of xz for some time. :-) Maybe this
 is a sign for the final 5.0 version to be near. I am now using the (very
 strange) upstream versioning scheme.
 
 That's just git describe.
 tag-commits since tagged commit-last commit id (short format)

Sure but I don't get why not creating just another tag here.

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Re: [arch-general] 'Local mirror' page was removed from wiki

2010-09-09 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:55:35 +0300, Evangelos Foutras
foutre...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Fess killall_hum...@lavabit.com wrote:
 Page Local mirros was removed from wiki by this reason:

 -
 It is generally frowned upon to create a local mirror due the bandwidth that 
 is required.
 There is not a good reason to create a local mirror, since one of the 
 alternatives below will likely meet your needs.
 -

 I think it's very useful ability, and why this page was removed... i don't 
 know. It's silly.
 If anyone else think it must be return - maybe we should do it?

 P.S.

 A lot of guys agreed with me this morning, so i think many people want this 
 article back.
 --
 
 I agree with the reasoning, I disagree with the content removal. : D

See https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=103987 The original
article was just wrong and causing us problems. Feel free to add an
improved one.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] The Great Python Rebuild of 2010 begins

2010-09-09 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:57:18 +0300, Evangelos Foutras
foutre...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Pierre Schmitz pie...@archlinux.de wrote:
 On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 18:05:47 +0200, Pierre Schmitz
 pie...@archlinux.de wrote:
 On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 00:48:06 +1000, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org
 wrote:
 Just a reminder for people to look at their packages and rebuild them
 for this.  We seem to of stalled majorly...

 Do you think a community-staging would be helpful? I could commit the
 needed changes to dbscripts and devtools; I'd like to do a new release
 soon anyway.

 FYI: support for community-staging was added to devtools 0.9.10 and
 dbscripts.

 --
 Pierre Schmitz, https://users.archlinux.de/~pierre
 
 That's great news. I made copies of my stable chroots for i686 and
 x86_64 and enabled the {,community-}staging repos in them, per Ionuț's
 suggestion.

Or you could just use staging-i686-build which comes with devtools.

 I'm guessing once the community-staging repository is
 created on sigurd, we should be able to upload community rebuilds
 there. Right?

Someone also needs to adjust the cron job that syncs the repo from
sigurd to gerolde.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] The Great Python Rebuild of 2010 begins

2010-08-31 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 13:31:16 -0500, Christopher Brannon
cmbranno...@gmail.com wrote:
 Any updates regarding the creation of a [community-staging] repository?
 
 +1.  Most of my packages are rebuilt; I'm just waiting to push.
 
 -- Chris

I could add it to dbscripts and devtools easily; but some admin of
sigurd needs to create the dir and adjust the rsync to gerolde.

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Re: [arch-general] [PATCH] devtools: give a writable home to nobody for use in makechrootpkg

2010-08-23 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:21:20 +0200, Gaetan Bisson
bis...@archlinux.org wrote:
 Hi,
 
 This is to ensure $HOME is a writable directory during makechrootpkg
 runs. I suspect this is helpful to build various packages - in the
 example I have in mind (uim in [extra]), the home directory was
 determined by getpwuid(getuid())-pw_dir, so simply exporting a new HOME
 environment variable in the PKGBUILD wasn't enough.

I would say if a build or package function tries to write file in a
user's home directory it should be considered broken and the PKGBUILD
should be fixed.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Large packages in repositories

2010-08-18 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 09:19:09 +0200, Sven-Hendrik Haase
s...@lutzhaase.com wrote:
 On 17.08.2010 16:28, Thomas Bächler wrote:
 Am 17.08.2010 16:12, schrieb Dan McGee:
 tl;dr: I think we need some standards with these huge packages, and
 people need to be a lot more cognizant as to how big they are. We have
 lost more than one mirror due to complaints over needed space and
 stuff like this doesn't help.
 If a mirror cannot cope with a few GB, then it should be dropped anyway.
 Our repos will get bigger, one way or the other.
 
 I share this opinion. The Arch repos are hardly large and even if we
 added 50 GB to them they would still wouldn't be that large. I know
 comparisons with other distributions are probably not a good idea on
 this list but it does help to get a general understanding of where we
 stand and what large really means.
 
 Debian - 428GB (http://www.debian.org/mirror/size)
 Fedora - 653GB (http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/DIRECTORY_SIZES.txt)
 Ubuntu - 421GB (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors)
 openSUSE - 500GB+ (http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mirror_infrastructure)
 
 Thankfully, we don't keep around old releases of packages or isos. Our
 mirrors will never have to cope with the amount of data that other
 distributions make them cope with. I think since they are already
 mirroring 2TB+ worth of data from other distros, they can easily squeeze
 in 50GB of Arch, or more.
 
 I'd really like to resolve this problem in the course of this discussion
 since it has been brought up every time big packages are pending (mostly
 games). Personally, I think we don't need a policy or anything on this.
 Something very odd would have to happen for our repos to grow too much
 for our mirrors to handle.
 This is Arch, let's keep it simple and unbureaucratic.
 
 I'm not saying let's throw all that big shit into there but if there
 are potential packages that would improve the user experience, their
 size should not be the determining factor to their inclusion.
 
 -- Sven-Hendrik

You need to keep in mind that's its not just the disk space that might
cause problems here but traffic and especially bandwidth are. E.g. the
our mainserver has about 10mbit/d bandwidth including mirroring, website
etc..

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [staging] repository: Let's give it a try!

2010-08-11 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 19:40:56 +0300, Evangelos Foutras
foutre...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Dan McGee dpmc...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Evangelos Foutras foutre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Pierre Schmitz pie...@archlinux.de wrote:
 Let me underline again that [staging] would be no regular repo that
 would be used by anyone directly. It mainly meant for collecting
 rebuilds.

 However, it would have to be used by anyone wanting to rebuild a
 package against a new library that has been pushed to [staging].
 Therefore, it would need to be mirrored and added to /etc/pacman.conf
 in our [testing] chroots. (By `our [testing] chroots' I mean the
 chroots that developers and TUs have been using until now for building
 packages for [testing].)

 No, it doesn't need to be mirrored. Developers have always had direct
 access to this, ask on the developer private list if you don't know
 the URL.

 -Dan
 
 Oh, neat. Can we, TUs, get access to it too? (Unless we already do and
 I missed it.)

ATM there wont be a need to have TUs access this repo. The main reason
of excluding it from mirroring is to remove it later when we decide that
this idea wasn't that great. We might think about mirroring it later
though..its just the db file anyway as the packages will be kept in a
pool. The only downside is that nobody should actually use that repo.
(by thinking it would similar to Debians experimental)

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Re: [arch-general] Fw: [arch-dev-public] [staging] repository: Let's give it a try!

2010-08-11 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:41:06 +0100, Mario Figueiredo
mario.figueir...@quiettech.org wrote:
 Forward Rationale: To give end users (and potential devs) an
 The idea can be summed up like this:

 testing:
   * don't break packages intentionally
   * don't push incomplete rebuilds

 
 This would definitely get me interested in Testing.
 Right now my Linux knowledge is limited and thus Testing is a no-go
 zone. If however I could have a guarantee that Testing offers the same
 package sanity insurance of the other mirrors, I could start
 participating.

In that case testing wont still be for you. There wont be any guarantee
for testing and some pacakges might be just broken. The only thing you
can expect that we wont break testing _by intention_ due to moving
incomplete rebuilds in.

 staging:
   * a global staging repository for collaboration
 its more similar to your ~/staging dir than a regular repository
   * mostly meant for incomplete rebuilds
   * will be excluded from mirroring (for now)

 I am open for any questions or suggestions. Thanks for reading,

 Pierre

 
 It needs to be said that this is also reflection of what one should
 expect to encounter in the development process in the wild. Apart from
 the potential for collaboration, the idea that the Arch repos could
 mimic this development cycle is very appealing to me.
 
 __
|  |
V  V
 Development - Staging - Testing  -  Release
 
 Packaging maintenance is taken away from the end user, giving them
 safe (it's still a beta, hence the quotes) access to Testing.
 Meanwhile developers would separate packaging from Testing,
 considerably giving them a lot more control over what users can access
 from Testing.

Staging is not a new repo/layer between the developer and testing. It's
just meant to be a temporary storage for rebuilds. The current dev.
cycle wont be affected. So we'll still have:
dev-extra
dev-testing-core

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Re: [arch-general] Unificate login credentials in Arch's website

2010-08-03 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 23:46:41 -0300, Martín Cigorraga
martosurf7...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't know if this was addressed before, I'm sorry to say this and you'll
 probably hate me but it's something that get my attention: the
 authentication in Arch's website is, at least, very unefficient. At worst,
 it's directly against Arch's Way, I think (I'm not the best guy to say this,
 just giving my first steps in Arch). Why should someone need to register at
 least three times, one for the forums, one for the wiki and one for the AUR?
 Shoudn't be sufficient with just one-time login/registration? And what about
 editing own nick or password? You know, at any time you may want to uniform
 all your passwords to a master one or just change it from the default you
 get when registered.
 
 I would like to know if there's any specific reason to have three separate
 accounts for the same website sections.
 
 Regards,
 Martín

In fact I already wrote a Plugin for MediaWiki to authenticate at the
forums. I am using this at archlinux.de (yes, pretty simple and there is
no ldap or whatever)

So, enabling this at archlinux.org would just involve a small config
change. However: the migration is most likely unsolvable. People might
have registered different accounts on wiki or forums; or different
people have registered the same account the first on the wiki the other
one on the forums etc.

Pierre

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Re: [arch-general] Licensing of Arch Wiki content

2010-07-03 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:56:39 -0500, Aaron Griffin
aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Dan McGee dpmc...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Ananda Samaddar ana...@samaddar.co.uk 
 wrote:
 On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 23:19:09 +0200
 Linas linas...@ymail.com wrote:

 I assume this ask to have GFDL  CC-BY-SA content coexist at the
 wiki. The existing content can only be relicensed by its authors. The
 GFDL 1.3 gateway
 expired on August 1, 2009.


 I really need an answer on this as soon as possible.  For new Wiki
 articles would it be OK to add a footer in the article stating that it
 is licensed under a CC license and not the GFDL?  Any official word on
 this please from the Arch wiki admins or developers.  If you're not
 willing to officially allow CC licenses could the 'override' paragraph
 I'm suggesting for new content only be all right?

 I honestly don't know who is going to reply to you. If you were to
 just change the license I also don't think you'd have anyone come
 after you anytime soon.

 Who is in charge of the wiki these days I'm not sure, but I'd try to
 get someone's attention besides mine- maybe Pierre or Aaron would be
 the right guys.
 
 I was also waiting for someone more knowledgeable with regards to the wiki.
 
 If it's my say-so you want, I don't see a problem with adding
 *additional* content under CC. But switching all *existing* content to
 CC might be a problem.

Maybe not. Wikipedia did the same; see
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Licensing_update

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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.34-2

2010-06-20 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 14:03:01 +0200, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org
wrote:
 This release will be moved to core after signoff, together with
 linux-firmware, initscripts, udev and mkinitcpio. Changes compared to
-1:
 
 Remove kernel26-firmware package, it is replaced by linux-firmware
 added new tcp options FS#19604 (tpowa)
 Enable devtmpfs
 Add makedepends to build kernel26-{manpages,docs} properly
 Fix makepkg -R
 
 Please sign off.

signed-off x86_64

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Re: [arch-general] Google Chrome

2010-05-28 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Fri, 28 May 2010 17:20:28 +0300, Ionut Biru biru.io...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On 05/28/2010 12:35 PM, Madhurya Kakati wrote:
 On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Ionut Birubiru.io...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 On 05/28/2010 12:14 PM, Madhurya Kakati wrote:

 Hi,
 Now that Google Chrome is not beta any more and chromium hasn't been
 updated in the repos yet i think i should install Google-Chrome from
 AUR. However Chrome for linux is very much behind Chrome for windows
 so I want to ask to those users who have tried it or are using it
that
 whether i should install the google-chrome package or the
 google-chrome-beta or google-chrome-dev.
 Thanks

 chromium.

 ps: the one from testing has a reason that wasn't yet upgraded.

 --
 Ionut

 may i please know what the reason is??
 
 building against shared libs

I tried to build chromium today, but the resulting binary just segfaults.
(probably due to bugs in gcc 4.5)

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Redefining [testing] and a new [staging] repo

2010-05-07 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Fri, 7 May 2010 13:50:01 -0400, Ray Kohler ataraxia...@gmail.com
wrote:
 This makes me wonder, what about the TUs and [community-testing]? The
 current use of that repo would make it seem sensible to rename it to
 [community-staging] instead, since it's rare there's anything in there
 but in-progress rebuilds. Or should there be a pair of
 [community-testing] and [community-staging]?
 
 Sorry about adding complexity to this, as I realize that makes it less
 likely that it actually gets implemented...

That's up to the TUs to decide if they want to have the same or keep their
testing repo for this. I guess it wont be needed most of the time; most
packages that would induce rebuilds should be in core and extra. But even
if if they would like to have their own staging repo it would be easy to
implement.

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.33.3-2 (and aufs2)

2010-05-02 Thread Pierre Schmitz
This new kernel just exports some additional symbols for aufs2 which was
updated to a new snapshot. This should hopefully fix some issues with the
.33 kernel and aufs. Related aufs packages are: aufs2 2.6.33_20100425-2 and
aufs2-util 20100422-1

In addition to regular sign-off some feedback about aufs would be nice;
especially if you use archiso.

Greetings,

Pierre
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Re: [arch-general] Package signing

2010-04-28 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:18:02 -0300, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto
denisfalqu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, Allan and Aleksis.
 
 I was thinking about this problem for sometime and the more complex
 part is the key distribution and trusting. Now I maybe came to
 something usefull.
 
 I'm thinking about a two way signing process. The dev signs the
 package and send it to the server. The server would have a script or a
 cron job to verify if the signature is valid and is from someone
 trusted [1]. If so, the original signature is discarded and a new one
 is made, with an official Arch key.
 
 So the problem of distributing keys is solved. We just need to
 distribute and trust the official public key of Arch. If some new
 developer comes to the team, its digital fingerprint is added to the
 list of trusted devs. If someone is removed, its fingerprint is
 removed. The users will trust in anything the server has signed,
 because the physical access to the private key is kept safe (so we
 hope :)). If some developer loses the confidence in his key, he can
 generate another and send the fingerprint to the admin, so it can be
 added toe the trusted list.
 
 I am willing to help with any efforts in this area. I'm already
 subscribed in pacman-dev and if this discussion pops up there, count
 me on.
 
 [1] - there should be a list of fingerprints of trusted devs, only
 writeable by a few admins.

Why not just use openssl instead of gpg then? You have a root cert which
sings the individual pub keys of every dev. To verify the packages users
just have to trust the root cert. This does even support some kind of
revoke etc.. (you could even sign the root cert by an external entity like
cacert to make it even more secure.

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Re: [arch-general] Ssl no more :(

2010-04-20 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:59:32 +0200, Andrea Crotti
andrea.crott...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here it is
 --8---cut here---start-8---
 [2010-04-16 13:12] synchronizing package lists
 [2010-04-16 13:13] upgraded pacman (3.3.3-1 - 3.3.3-5)
 [2010-04-16 13:13] synchronizing package lists
 [2010-04-16 13:13] starting full system upgrade
 [2010-04-16 13:24] synchronizing package lists
 [2010-04-16 13:24] starting full system upgrade
 [2010-04-16 13:43] synchronizing package lists
 [2010-04-16 13:43] starting full system upgrade
 [2010-04-16 14:19] removed policykit-gnome (0.9.2-5)
 [2010-04-16 14:19] removed devicekit-power (013-1)
 [2010-04-16 14:19] removed devicekit-disks (009-5)
 [2010-04-16 14:19] removed policykit (0.9-9)
 [2010-04-16 14:19] upgraded acl (2.2.48-1 - 2.2.49-1)
 [2010-04-16 14:20] upgraded linux-api-headers (2.6.32.5-2 - 2.6.33.1-1)
 [2010-04-16 14:20] upgraded tzdata (2010b-1 - 2010h-1)
 [2010-04-16 14:20] Generating locales...
 [2010-04-16 14:20]   en_US.UTF-8... done
 [2010-04-16 14:20]   en_US.ISO-8859-1... done
 [2010-04-16 14:20]   it_IT.UTF-8... done
 [2010-04-16 14:20]   it_IT.ISO-8859-1... done
 [2010-04-16 14:20]   it_it.iso-8859...@euro... done
 [2010-04-16 14:20] Generation complete.
 [2010-04-16 14:20] upgraded glibc (2.11.1-1 - 2.11.1-2)
 [2010-04-16 14:20] upgraded bash (4.1.002-2 - 4.1.005-1)
 [2010-04-16 14:20] upgraded zlib (1.2.3.9-1 - 1.2.4-1)
 [2010-04-16 14:20] upgraded util-linux-ng (2.17.1-1 - 2.17.2-1)
 [2010-04-16 14:20] upgraded apr (1.3.9-1 - 1.4.2-1)
 [2010-04-16 14:20] upgraded gcc-libs (4.4.3-1 - 4.4.3-2)
 [2010-04-16 14:20] upgraded db (4.8.26-1 - 4.8.26-2)
 [2010-04-16 14:20] upgraded gdbm (1.8.3-6 - 1.8.3-7)
 [2010-04-16 14:20] warning: /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf installed as
 /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf.pacnew
 [2010-04-16 14:20] upgraded openssl (0.9.8m-2 - 1.0.0-2)
 [2010-04-16 14:20] upgraded libldap (2.4.21-1 - 2.4.21-2)
 [2010-04-16 14:21] upgraded apr-util (1.3.9-3 - 1.3.9-4)
 [2010-04-16 14:21] upgraded pcre (8.01-1 - 8.02-1)
 [2010-04-16 14:21] warning: /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf installed as
 /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf.pacnew
 [2010-04-16 14:21] upgraded apache (2.2.14-3 - 2.2.15-2)
 --8---cut here---end---8---
 
 Looks clean to  me.

Not for me. Looks more like pacman was interrupted during the transaction.
At least libfetch and libarchive are missing. (and I guess a lot of other
stuff like openssh) Could you add more of the log before and after what you
already posted. Andy what is about the system update after the pacman
update which did not pull in any new packages. Did you switch mirrors? Did
you anything else to pacman you didn't tell us so far? ;-)

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Re: [arch-general] Repo mirrors

2010-04-14 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:36:49 +0200, Florian Pritz bluew...@xssn.at
wrote:
 http://karif.server-speed.net/~flo/tmp/mirrorsync.sh.txt
 
 CC welcome :)

Some comments here:

* There is no public http master
* mirrors might only have incoming rsync access (firewall)
* the script tends to be complicated and relies on local data; things
might gone wild here and we have no control. pure rsync is a lot more fail
proof.
* The repo might change without the db files being modified; e.g. isos,
sources, old packages get removed etc.
* if mirrors would query us every minute there is a high chance that our
12 rsync slots might always been used.
* mirrors should never sync single repos but use our rsync modules
instead. (this simplifies your script a lot)

My idea was to just sync all db files first as I do in
https://git.archlinux.de/repo-tools.git/tree/syncrepo This ensures that
repos are almost always consistent. This way all the problems we regularly
have when core and extra are not on sync are gone. On the client side
pacman will either try the next mirror if a file cannot be found are just
refuses to update at all.

And if we somehow manage to check if the db sync has changed anything we
might even implement your approach here without a http master and the need
to locally store data. In short: we should keep it simple. 

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] openssl, heimdal and icu rebuilds

2010-04-08 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 01:42:29 +0300, Evangelos Foutras
foutre...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On 09/04/10 01:20, Pierre Schmitz wrote:
 On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 22:37:13 +0200, Pierre Schmitzpie...@archlinux.de
 wrote:
 The move is in progress...please don't touch anything while we are
still
 on it. :-)

 So, we are done. Mirrors should be back in sync some day.
 
 Have the packages in [xorg18] been moved into [extra] as well? I cannot 
 verify this from looking at the website, though it might not have 
 synchronized yet.

of course not. It will take some time till xorg-server 1.8 is ready to
use.

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Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-07 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:44:22 -0500, David C. Rankin
drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:
 ... It doesn't matter whether you use
 the
 latest install set or the one from 3 'releases' back, after the first
 update,
 you will have the exact same, current Arch Linux we all have. 

It's not entirely true. You always should install using the latest iso and
it is also important to release new isos regularly. Due to our continuous
updates and changes old isos and especially netinstall are broken. For
example you cannot run a netinstall with an old iso (without updating it
first) due to the switch to xz compressed packages.

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Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-07 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:45:41 -0500, David C. Rankin
drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:
   I missed that completely in my train of thought. But without the change
in
 package compression it would still hold true. Prior to the xz
compression
 change, I had had no problems using the 2/09 install media even after
the
 8/09
 install media was released. Thanks for keeping me honest ;-)

I remember several changes on our site that broke old install isos. I
recently tested some of them and afaik those before 2009.02 don't work
because that kernel is too old for our glibc or something similar. Or some
day we had changed the repo layout etc..

In general Arch is moving to fast to keep old isos and install working.

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Re: [arch-general] The libgmp update

2010-03-27 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Samstag, 27. März 2010 23:08:08 schrieb Hilton Medeiros:
 Hello,
 
 just to confirm, all the packages linked against the new libgmp should
 follow 'coreutils' example and use 'gmp=5.0', right?
 I just saw that gnunet didn't.
 
 Cheers,
 Hilton

No, it's the other way round. Using versioned deps is just wrong.

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Re: [arch-general] HTML5, Youtube and chromium-browser

2010-03-20 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Samstag, 20. März 2010 16:50:14 schrieb Gaurish Sharma:
 Anyone managed to get youtube videos working in HTML5/h.264 format on
 chromium  browser?

Don't use those broken packages from the AUR. Just run pacman -S chromium 
and it will just work.

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Re: [arch-general] HTML5, Youtube and chromium-browser

2010-03-20 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Samstag, 20. März 2010 18:56:21 schrieb Gaurish Sharma:
 Apparently I was under impression that  chromium browser does not ship
 with  codecs. that atleast this what the webpage says
 
 [1]http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome

That page does not mention Arch at all.

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Re: [arch-general] HTML5, Youtube and chromium-browser

2010-03-20 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Samstag, 20. März 2010 19:03:35 schrieb Bram Schoenmakers:
 I'd like to ask
 how often the chromium package in [extra] is going to be updated. Last
 week I went back from [extra] to AUR because of an annoying bug with
 Google Calendar in 5.0.307.11, but it is fixed in the latest version.
 
 From what I understand, 5.0 development has release cycles of one
 
 week, with a version bump on each Monday.
 
 I'm just asking, because I'm aware Chromium is a heavy beast to build
 and ship, so I don't expect a new build every week. I'm just asking
 for a rough estimation of how often a new version will appear in
 [extra].

That's not really true. Chromium in [extra] follows the beta and hopefully 
soon the stable releases of Google Chrome. See 
http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/search/label/Beta%20updates and 
http://omahaproxy.appspot.com/

The releases you are talking about are just snapshots which are tagged by a 
bot.

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Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux security is still poor....

2010-03-16 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Dienstag, 16. März 2010 18:24:46 schrieb Nilesh Govindarajan:
 Let this thread not be just another Will be nice one. Pacman devs,
 please start implementing these package verification things.

You got it wrong. Nothing will change until you start working on this. I have 
seen those discussions during the last 6 years and none of them ever lead into 
a working implementation.

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Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux security is still poor....

2010-03-15 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Montag, 15. März 2010 20:54:03 schrieb Ananda Samaddar:
 The reason I'm asking is I want to know to whom I address my proposals
 when they are finished.

Simple: File a bug report or feature request at bugs.archlinux.org. No idea 
what your proposals are about but you should make sure they only address a 
single concrete issue.

Pierre

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Re: [arch-general] php / mysql connection after recent update

2010-03-11 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Donnerstag, 11. März 2010 11:47:18 schrieb Chris Allison:
 This would appear to be an upstream bug/feature.

Yes, see http://bugs.php.net/51242
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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Moving to pkg.tar.xz officially?

2010-03-09 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Dienstag, 9. März 2010 09:19:22 schrieb Ng Oon-Ee:
 What about devs/tus who also maintain AUR packages? As I recall AUR
 doesn't accept .tar.xz yet?

You cannot upload packages to AUR anyway. Source packages can be kept as 
src.tar.gz. There shouldn't be a reall difference if you compress a pkgbuild 
with gz or xz.

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Re: [arch-general] svn packaging, abs = git ?

2010-03-07 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Sonntag, 7. März 2010 12:03:08 schrieb Dieter Plaetinck:
 2) svn-git migration is not trivial, since tools, the website, .. will
 need to be adapted.

The problem is that our current repo layout and workflow is not mappable to 
git. E.g. we use svn's feature to checkout specific dirs/files etc..

But I guess if someone would come up with a superior solution using git we 
would be quite happy.

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Re: [arch-general] kde44beta - Arch needs to disable powerdevil suspend default - very hard shutdown...

2010-02-03 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Mittwoch, 3. Februar 2010 19:02:18 schrieb David C. Rankin:
  Any feature that can damage a system (ext4
 hard shutdown corruption) should be disabled by default thus requiring the
 user to pick his poison rather than having it slipped into his glass.

Suspend is not broken by itself, it's your BIOS (very likely) or maybe a 
kernel driver that is broken. So I don't see the point in disabling the 
feature here. According to your logic we might disabling sound because playing 
sound might crash systems with broken audio drivers. Or maybee we shsould also 
disable Kwin composite because it freezes system using broken dirver like my 
intel. I hope you get the idea. ;-)

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Re: [arch-general] Syncing the mirrors

2010-01-31 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Sonntag, 31. Januar 2010 15:27:03 schrieb Dan McGee:
 Thanks for signing that message, I wasn't sure it was from you.

OT: Can't we strip gpg-signatures from the mailinglist? It's of no use. Use 
s/mime instead ;-)

 The problem here is we haven't had anyone step up and finish a two
 tier mirror system. The situation has improved a bit, but without a
 developer actively working on it we aren't going to have it fully
 implemented.

There are several methods to improve the situation:
* multi tier mirroring. Roman started to work on this but might need some help 
  here. It's mostly an organizing task
* Add support for using both gz and xz compressed packages to db-scripts. This 
  way we could migrate to the way better xz compression and reduce traffic:
  http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17280
* Implement a common package pool and link to those packages from every repo.
  This would have reduce the amount of transfered data from several GB to a
  few KB in the current case. (also an dbscritps issue)

dbscripts can be found at http://projects.archlinux.org/dbscripts.git/

Everybody could help implementing this and submit patches for us to review.

Pierre

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Re: [arch-general] Syncing the mirrors

2010-01-31 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Sonntag, 31. Januar 2010 17:14:05 schrieb Lukáš Jirkovský:
 I think that the syncing would be much less painful if there was some
 possibility to tell mirrors that package foo has been moved from
 [testing] to [extra]. Then these rebuilds would be only a matter of
 distributing information which packages should be moved from [testing]
 (that could be done by one text file).

See my third suggestion.

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Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-29 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Freitag, 29. Januar 2010 11:58:12 schrieb Joerg Schilling:
 Paulo Matias mat...@archlinux-br.org wrote:
  On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Joerg Schilling
  
  joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
   As long as there is no support code in Linux distros to set
   capabilities without making the target program suid root anyway,
  
  Don't be afraid, Arch Linux has support for that :)
 
 How?
 
 Is there support for mandatory ACLs?
 
 Jörg

Finally some interesting discussion came out of this. I am not an expert on 
linux capability support, but Thomas has posted two blog entries about this in 
Arch: http://archlinux.me/brain0/2009/07/28/using-posix-capabilities-in-linux-
part-one/ and http://archlinux.me/brain0/2010/01/05/using-posix-capabilities-
in-linux-part-two/

In general this should work fine. The only problem is that bsdtar did not 
support storing those information (don't know if future versions support this) 
so one has to use install scripts to adjust the permissions after install.

Pierre

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Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-29 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Freitag, 29. Januar 2010 17:58:42 schrieb Jan de Groot:
 On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 14:35 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
  I am not sure whether this is the best solution. I recommend to use
  star as star
  is the oldest free tar implementation and as it supports ACLs since 10
  years
  already. Adding more meta data is relatively simple.
 
 Implementing it in star has no use, as our package manager doesn't use
 star but libarchive, the library that bsdtar is based on.

This might be related: http://code.google.com/p/libarchive/wiki/TarPosix1eACLs

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Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-29 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Freitag, 29. Januar 2010 18:47:55 schrieb Xavier Chantry:
 When I looked into that a few months ago, it stored just fine when
 creating the archive. But it did not restore them when extracting.
 This got fixed in trunk, so it will probably be in the next major
 release (2.8 ?).
 http://code.google.com/p/libarchive/source/detail?r=1590#
 
 xps-m1530:~ bsdtar --version
 bsdtar 2.7.902a - libarchive 2.7.902a
 
 2.7 release does not work, at least on my system.
 The development version is required.

This is good new; afaik 2.8 should be released soon.

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Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-27 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Mittwoch, 27. Januar 2010 13:40:08 schrieb Joerg Schilling:
 Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote:
  On 27/01/10 20:02, Joerg Schilling wrote:
   There was nothing but a social attack from a hostile person. Please
   show me a report from a single lawyer that proves that there is a
   legal problem with the original software.
  
  Please provide a report from a single laywer showing that there is not.
 
 In the legal system I live and in case you live in the USA for you too,
 _you_ would first need to prove that there is a legal problem with the
 original software.
 
 Either do this or stay quiet.
 
 Jörg

The point is that nobody of us can proof for sure if it's legal or not. So 
it's quite pointless to continue arguing here.

Personally I have no objections against having a cdrtools package in our 
repository if someone wants to maintain it.

Licenses are important, but one shouldn't be too picky about it. If I remember 
correctly the initial question was if it is legal to distribute a GPL licensed 
software build with CCDL licenses build system. Both licenses are 100% free 
and both parts have the same author.

In this case we only have a very theoretical problem which might be 
interesting for lawyers but has no real impact. Even if the licenses are not 
compatible there wont be any real consequences.

However, I am still with Allan here. All this situation was initially caused 
by Jörg himself and talking about a proof but not actually providing it does 
not help.

PS: I wonder if this discussion will come to a conclusion before optical discs 
are obsolete.

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Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-25 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Montag, 25. Januar 2010 03:55:22 schrieb Sven-Hendrik Haase:
 I'm aware that I can get cdrtools from AUR. Even then, cdrkit uses
 replaces and that spells don't use cdrtools for me.

I don't see any replaces entry in our cdrkit PKGBUILD. So everybody should be 
free to replace cdrkit by cdrtools.

Did anybody find a neutral and reliable statement about the license problem? I 
guess most of us are no lawyers.

I don't see any problem in providing both if there are no licensing issues and 
we have maintainers for them.

Pierre

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Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-25 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Montag, 25. Januar 2010 17:15:35 schrieb Joerg Schilling:
 The FSF does not own any code in cdrtools and the FSF does not publish 
 cdrtools, so it is obvious that the FSF is irrelevant for your discussion.

To track down the problem to its root: What does it cost you to distribute 
your code dual licensed under CCDL and GPL?

At some point it does not matter if you are right or not because it is simply 
too expensive for us to proof it. You said yourself that it took some time for 
SUN lawyers to conclude that GPL and CCDL might be compatible. But obviously 
it's not easy as we wouldn't have this discussion other vise.

You could either continue to join endless discussion, ask more lawyers etc. or 
simply check how you could distribute cdrtools with two licenses, the CCDL and 
GPL.

If you really want people to use your code and concentrate on development 
rather than licensing issues this is the simplest solution.

Pierre

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Re: [arch-general] What ISO will load a kernel in an AMD K6 2/450?

2009-12-27 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:39:19 -0600, David C. Rankin
drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:
 Guys,
 
 After the recent discussion about arch working well on old hardware, I
 decided to dump a suse 10.3 install on an old AMD K6-2/450 and install
arch
 on it. I downloaded the net install iso i686. I knew if it was truly
i686
 it wouldn't install -- and it didn't.
 
 My question is which Arch download, if any, can install on this old
 hardware. (currently a great little fax server, backup DNS/dhcp box and
40G
 of storage.) Any help (or the right link) would be appreciated.

The K6 is no i686 and Arch wont run on it. (OK, there was a port to i586;
no idea if it's still active)

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Re: [arch-general] kde4/kmail slow - anybody else notice or is it just me?

2009-12-07 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Dienstag 08 Dezember 2009 08:41:15 schrieb David C. Rankin:
 Anybody else seeing a slow down in kmail?

Well the initial access to a folder (after kmail install) takes a few seconds, 
but after that it's usually fast.

I just counted and I have about 51k mails.

You should note that this also relies on your imap server performance. I had 
used courier before and switched to dovecot which is a lot faster.

Pierre

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Re: [arch-general] archlinuxfr bad virtualbox_bin-3.0.10-1 package

2009-11-17 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Dienstag 17 November 2009 12:22:35 schrieb tuxce:
 I'm uploading it right now, thanks for the information.
 

You know that redistribution of the binary package is not legal? (except you 
have got the permission from Sun of course)

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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] dmraid-1.0.0.rc16-1

2009-11-02 Thread Pierre Schmitz

On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:53:18 +0100, Tobias Powalowski t.p...@gmx.de
wrote:
 Hi
 bump to latest version, please signoff.
 Due to lack of hardware also users can signoff.
 Please update and recreate your initcpio after upgrading.
 
 Thanks.
 greetings
 tpowa

sign-off for x86_64 (using simple raid0; I think this also counts as one
for device-mapper)

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Re: [arch-general] thunderbird-i18n split again ...

2009-10-02 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Freitag 02 Oktober 2009 19:21:54 schrieb Aaron Griffin:
 I believe

+1 for a use only lower case in pkgname policy

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Re: [arch-general] let's discuss /srv again

2009-10-02 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Freitag 02 Oktober 2009 16:51:55 schrieb Roman Kyrylych:
 Safe Mode (which includes open_basedir) is deprecated in PHP 5.3, and
 will be removed in 6.0.0.

No, safe_mode and open_basedir are different features and only safe_mode is 
deprecated. The usage of open_basedir is recommend.

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Re: [arch-general] Incorrect downloads page (WAS ArcLlinux 2009.02 installation issues)

2009-09-17 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Donnerstag 17 September 2009 09:57:44 schrieb Dieter Plaetinck:
 For 2009.08 the downloads page was updated here and there.  now
 http://www.archlinux.org/download/ shows the old page with the 2009.02
  stuff
 
 anyone know how this happened? (server upgrade?) can we restore the correct
  page?
 
 Dieter

forwarding to Dusty. I think htose cahgnes weren't commited to git.

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Re: [arch-general] Incorrect downloads page (WAS ArcLlinux 2009.02 installation issues)

2009-09-17 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Donnerstag 17 September 2009 17:47:52 schrieb Aaron Griffin:
 If someone has a chance, can you release this live?

done

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Re: [arch-general] Incorrect downloads page (WAS ArcLlinux 2009.02 installation issues)

2009-09-17 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Donnerstag 17 September 2009 17:52:24 schrieb Pierre Schmitz:
 Am Donnerstag 17 September 2009 17:47:52 schrieb Aaron Griffin:
  If someone has a chance, can you release this live?
 
 done

Well, some links are wrong; mainly all to http://archlinux.org. They should be 
replaced by ftp links.

PS: No, I cannot commit there. :-)

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Re: [arch-general] Incorrect downloads page (WAS ArcLlinux 2009.02 installation issues)

2009-09-17 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Donnerstag 17 September 2009 20:47:19 schrieb Aaron Griffin:
 Feel free to provide a git patch. I made what changes I could see
 (Pierre or Dan, I trust you guys with the web side more than myself -
 could you make those changes live?)

Looks fine to me now; pushed the changes to gudrun (this sound funny 
somehow...)

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Re: [arch-general] Can't ssh to vServer running ArchLinux

2009-09-11 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Freitag 11 September 2009 19:07:33 schrieb Johannes Held:
 The hardest part will be to fix these file on my vServer - as I don't have
  any access to it. Perhaps the support can help me …

That wont help right now, but one should not rent a server without a serical 
console __and__ a rescue system which can boot from network.

Others might disagree but I prefer to update more regualry even on my server. 
This way you don't get a lot of problems at once. And of course keep an eye on 
the news.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] usr folder on ftp

2009-09-11 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Mittwoch 09 September 2009 14:42:57 schrieb Jan de Groot:
 On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 16:37 +0400, Sergej Pupykin wrote:
  Hi,
 
  what is this?
 
  ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/community/os/i686/usr/
 
 No idea why it's there, looks like an unpacked package. I deleted it
 from gerolde, but I guess it will be back in a while: gerolde rsyncs
 from sigurd.

There are still .PKGINFO and a .INSTALL file in the community repo. Does 
anyone know how this could happen?

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Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-26 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Mittwoch 26 August 2009 09:54:50 schrieb Thomas Bächler:
 You don't. It's a kernel meant for servers, there won't be any module
 packages for it. A machine that needs the nvidia driver is not a server.

Maybe the kernel should be renamed to -server then. -lts is a little confusing 
here.

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Re: [arch-general] Add phonon-xine to KDE deps?

2009-08-11 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Dienstag 11 August 2009 08:52:34 schrieb Allan McRae:
 Did you all install the needed gstreamer plugins for the files you
 wanted to play?

Qt only installs the base plugins which support playing ogg and wave files. 
For anything else you need to install other plugins.

In general the phonon backend thing is a big mess and con only be solved by 
upstream.

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Re: [arch-general] Sigurd rDNS broken

2009-08-09 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Sonntag 09 August 2009 12:24:35 schrieb Florian Pritz:
 I just noticed sigurd.archlinux.org has a broken rDNS so my mailserver
 rejects all mails coming from the AUR.

Looks like your mail server is broken. An IP can have several hostnames.

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