Re: [arch-general] Why not mksh provides(ksh)?

2014-08-12 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 18:21:16 -0700
G. Richard Bellamy rbell...@pteradigm.com wrote:

 Not sure if this is the correct venue for this comment, and apologies
 if it's already been mentioned, but why wouldn't mksh [1] provide ksh?
 
 This would alleviate some AUR dependency weirdness, specifically with
 the oracle-sqldeveloper [2] package, which currently forces an install
 of ksh [3], even though it'll work just fine with mksh.
 
 -rb
 
 [1] https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/mksh/
 [2] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/oracle-sqldeveloper/
 [3] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ksh/

Hello,

that's because mksh by default does not provide a ksh binary, nor did
it contain a mode to behave exactly like the ksh if called by this
name, the extensions are always active. (It's been some years since I
took the package and took a glance at the init code, maybe I'm wrong
with this, feel free to correct me.)

I think it's wrong to place this extended shell in the place of the
original ksh. My intention is simply to give users the possibility to install 
the
mksh and the original ksh parallel on the same machine, as they don't
collide on the filesystem. If they want to call the mksh as ksh, people
can still create a plain symlink for the binary.

Also there is only one package that depends on mksh in the repos,
kwalletcli. Sven-Hendrik makes no modifications regarding the shell in
this PKGBUILD so I assume it's fine. As long as I don't make a problem
for another TU or a developer I stay to the current setup of the
package, when I add a ksh symlink to the package stating it also
provides the ksh I take users the chance to install the original ksh
and the mksh. There are users who don't want an extended shell because
they work with the original since a lot of years on different systems.

Best Regards,
Thorsten


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Re: [arch-general] signature from Thorsten Tpper x...@xxx.xxx is unknown trust

2013-01-28 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:56:37 +0100
Sébastien Luttringer se...@seblu.net wrote:

 Have an archlinux-keyring updated before key expiration is an elegant
 solution.
 
 Cheers,

Indeed.

Also, it was my mistake not to update the key before it expired and I
have to apologize for that. By now there is a new archlinux-keyring
package that contains the updated key.

I'm sorry for all the trouble this has caused.


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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] disowned pmount

2012-02-16 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:04:20 +0100
Tobias Powalowski tobias.powalow...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Am 15.02.2012 09:18, schrieb Pierre Schmitz:
  Am 15.02.2012 09:10, schrieb Tobias Powalowski:
  Hi
  feel free to adopt it, I don't use it anymore.
  greetings
  tpowa
  Why not just drop it entirely? Afaik it was once used by KDE3 but
  isn't needed by any package anymore.
 
 +1
 

Drop it to [community] I'll adopt it.

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Re: [arch-general] pacman new generation

2011-11-21 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 11:23:58 -0800
Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Perhaps the developers want to take a look at this distribution.It is
 reported that is written in a `purely functional package management'
 and tries to be a highly safe OS, where `upgrading a system is as
 reliable as reinstalling from scratch'.
 
   http://nixos.org/nixos/
 
  Because the files of a new configuration don’t overwrite old ones,
  you can (atomically) roll back to a previous configuration. For
  instance, if after a nixos-rebuild switch you discover that you
  don’t like the new configuration, you can just go back
 
 It can be an inspiration for a new version of pacman rewritten in
 haskell? Also Don Stewart's talk about 'Scripting with Types' might
 inspire someone too (BTW since he started arch-haskell I think he is a
 Arch user):
 
   http://donsbot.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/semicolon.pdf

Well I'm just a TU but I guess most people here are always pleasured for
people bringing up their ideas, when they want to realize them by
themselves.

Seriously, it's probably meant like this but your mail reads like a
Hey why don't you learn $INSERT_LANG_HERE and rewrite your whole
system.

I've not participated in pacman development myself so I guess I should
stfu myself, but for me this proposal just reads like a kick into the
faces of Allan, Dan and all the other people who did so.

Kind Regards
Thorsten
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Re: [arch-general] Can't install e4rat from AUR: pacman fails to install missing dependencies

2011-10-09 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 17:44:44 +0200
Lorenzo Bandieri lorenzo.bandi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone!
 
 I'm having problems installing E4rat from the AUR (
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?K=e4ratSeB=x). Installation
 fails: $ makepkg -s
 == WARNING: Sudo can not be found. Will use su to acquire root
 privileges. == Making package: e4rat 0.2.1-2 (Sun Oct  9 17:34:22
 CEST 2011) == Checking runtime dependencies...
 == Checking buildtime dependencies...
 == Installing missing dependencies...
 Password:
 error: target not found: audit
 == ERROR: 'pacman' failed to install missing dependencies.
 
 I performed a search with pacman -Ss, and audit seems not to be in the
 repos. Has anyone encountered this problem yet?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Lorenzo

I haven't encountered the problem, but there's a solution:
Search the AUR when deps for AUR PKGBUILDs are missing.

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=24070



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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] diffutils-3.2-1

2011-09-04 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 13:30:13 +1000
Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote:

 On 03/09/11 20:42, Evangelos Foutras wrote:
  On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Allan McRaeal...@archlinux.org
  wrote:
  Upstream update:
 
 
  * Noteworthy changes in release 3.2 (2011-09-02) [stable]
 
  ** Changes in behavior
 
--ignore-file-name-case now applies at the top level too.
For example, diff dir inIt might compare dir/Init to inIt.
 
  ** New features
 
diff and sdiff have a new option --ignore-trailing-space (-Z).
 
  ** Packaging
 
The texinfo documentation no longer specifies front-cover or
  back-cover texts, so that it may now be included in Debian's
  main section.
 
 
  Signoff both,
 
  Signoff x86_64.
 
 
 Anyone for i686?
 
 Allan

signoff i686

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] dnsutils-9.8.1-1

2011-09-04 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 12:52:21 +0300
Evangelos Foutras evange...@foutrelis.com wrote:

 On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Gaetan Bisson bis...@archlinux.org
 wrote:
  Hi guys,
 
  A new dnsutils package lies in [testing]... again - an upstream
  update this time. No big changes, mostly bug fixes. For the curious:
 
  https://deepthought.isc.org/article/AA-00446/81/
 
  Please test and signoff.
 
 Signoff x86_64.

signoff i686

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] dnsutils-9.8.0.P4-2

2011-08-31 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 00:00:50 -0700
Gaetan Bisson bis...@archlinux.org wrote:

 [2011-08-29 10:40:27 +0300] Evangelos Foutras:
  On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Gaetan Bisson
  bis...@archlinux.org wrote:
   Hi everyone,
  
   An update to dnsutils is in [testing]; it implements:
   - FS#25801 (move nsupdate to bind)
   - FS#25048 (make binaries smaller)
  
   Please test and signoff.
  
  Signoff x86_64.
 
 Somebody for i686?
 

signoff i686

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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-lts 2.6.32.46-1

2011-08-30 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:38:25 +0200
Tobias Powalowski tobias.powalow...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Latest LTS kernel is in testing,
 please signoff for both arches
 
 greetings
 tpowa

signoff i686

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] removing cryptsetup from base group

2011-08-09 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 17:42:32 +0200
Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.de wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 03:37:15PM +0300, Ionut Biru wrote:
  Hi,
  
  this package brings in our clean chroots libgcrypt dependency.
  
  Until recently, gnutls had libcrypt as dependency but now it relies
  on nettle. That means that packages  linked to gnutls and relied on
  libgcrypt dependency from it, will be broken.
  
  We have a gnutls 3.0.0 rebuild in progress in staging and because
  libgcrypt is in our clean chroots, everything is fine, functionality
  wise but I noticed that we skipped adding ligcrypt to dependency
  mostly because namcap and us assume that everybody have base group
  installed.
  
  Please check your packages to see if they link to libgcrypt and add
  it to dependency if they do.
 
 -1 to removing cryptsetup from base. Note that cryptsetup is an
 essential tool for setups with system encryption enabled and is
 required during boot time. It should also stay on our CDs (not only
 as available package but also installed on the root-image to allow
 for using the CD as a Live CD, even if partitions are encrypted; AIF
 probably depends on it as well). Additionally, removing cryptsetup
 from base will require users to install it manually when using
 mkinitcpio's encrypt hook. If you decide to remove it anyway, keep
 in mind to:
 
 * Keep it on our Live CDs.
 
 * Add a note to our default /etc/mkinitcpio.conf.
 
 * Maybe also add some note in AIF.

I agree with Lukas and support his arguments so another -1 for removing
the package from the base group.

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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-lts 2.6.32.44-1

2011-08-09 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 17:37:13 +0200
Tobias Powalowski tobias.powalow...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Latest LTS kernel is in testing,
 please signoff for both arches
 
 greetings
 tpowa

signoff x86_64

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Re: [arch-general] Printer driver

2011-04-29 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:50:55 +0200
Maciej Sobkowski macie...@maciejjo.pl wrote:

 Hi,
 I want to install driver for my Brother DCP-J315W printer. I've
 downloaded driver files from brother's site, since there is no
 package, neither in repo nor in aur. It was in deb format, also rpm
 available. The driver is split into two packages: dcpj315wlpr and
 dcpj315wcupswrapper. I converted them to tar.gz archive with
 deb2targz, extracted and I don't know where to put the files to get
 the driver working.
 
 Hierarchy in
 cupswrapper:  /usr/local/Brother/Printer/dcpj315w/cupswrapper/, and
 there are brcupsconfpt1  brdcpj315w.ppd  cupswrapperdcpj315w files.
 
 In lpr there is /usr/local/Brother/Printer/dcpj315w/lpd/ where are
 brdcpj315wfilter  filterdcpj315w  psconvertij2,
 
 and /usr/local/Brother/Printer/dcpj315w/inf/ where are
  brdcpj315wfunc  brio08ba.bcm  brio08bc.bcm  brio08bf.bcm
 brio08bk.bcm paperinfij2
 brdcpj315wrcbrio08bb.bcm  brio08be.bcm  brio08bg.bcm  ImagingArea
 setupPrintcapij
 
 and also usr/bin with brprintconf_dcpj315w.
 
 Should I put them in these directories in my system?
 
 maciejjo

Well there are quite a bunch of packages[1] in [unsupported] you could
use as a reference. I guess taking a package from there and modifying
it to fit for your printer, would be the easiest way to handle this.

Regards,
Thorsten

[1]https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?O=0K=Brotherdo_Search=Go
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Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

2011-04-05 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 08:41:13 +0200
Sven-Hendrik Haase s...@lutzhaase.com wrote:

 We all know the situation with dcron (it can't keep time properly) and
 it still is broken. No fix (or any changes for that matter) have gone
 into its upstream git for over a year now. There have been multiple
 yeah-I'll-take-a-looks from various people as well as its upstream
 maintainer and no work was done.
 
 I certainly don't want to offend anybody but I think it is time
 another crond was made quasi default by swapping it for dcron in base
 group. I know that users can do that themselves but the we shouldn't
 suggest packages we know are broken by putting them into the base
 group. Perhaps fcron is a fine choice.
 
 Bug report for reference: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/18681
 
 -- Sven-Hendrik

As I maintain fcron in [community]: I won't mind if it's decided to
replace dcron as default. If I remember correctly, this is the third
thread about a replacement because of this bug, so I'd welcome a clear
Yes, we decide to replace it with X. or a No, now stop to annoy
us.. Still I'm TU not Dev so that's a plain beg. 

However just as a notice: it's not a plain package replacement, as one
other package has to be modified for this, if not there are currently
some problems with fcron's build process if that's not done.

fcron needs the user and group 'cron' which are later used at the
system to exist already at build time, to create these in the chroots is
currently not possible to do with devtools, because of missing PAM
Authorization within the chroots.

Long story short: If it's moved to [core] don't forget to provide a
cron user and a cron group[1] with the filesystem package.

Regards,
Thorsten

[1]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:UID_/_GID_Database
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Re: [arch-general] Package deletion request

2011-02-14 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:15:09 +0200
D. Can Celasun dcela...@gmail.com wrote:

 2011/2/14 Lukáš Jirkovský l.jirkov...@gmail.com
 
  On 14 February 2011 13:43, D. Can Celasun dcela...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   I've adopted, updated and reuploaded the ejecter[1] package as
   indicator-ejecter[2] to follow the general naming convention
   regarding Ayatana packages [3] . Can someone please delete the
   original ejecter package?
  
   [1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=20493
   [2] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=46497
   [3] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=99746p=1
  
   Thanks.
  
 
  Deleted ejecter.
  BTW: could you please set the category in your indicator-ejecter
  package?
 
  Lukas
 
 
 Done - thanks for reminding!
 
 Can

Please send future requests to the aur-general mailing list and not the
arch-general list. 

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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel-2.6.36.3-2

2011-01-25 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:38:44 +0100 Tobias Powalowski t.p...@gmx.de
wrote:
 Upstream update. This package is NOT in testing (2.6.37 currently
 resides there), but at:
 http://dev.archlinux.org/~tpowa/kernel26/
 
 fixed udev crash #22343
 fixed ext3 default mount option #22544
 
 please signoff for both arches.
 
 greetings
 tpowa

signoff x86_64

System ran for several hours without a problem or unusual log messages.

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Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.37 BKL

2011-01-05 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:28:42 -0600 Yaro Kasear y...@marupa.net wrote:
 On Wednesday, January 05, 2011 05:51:02 pm Matthew Monaco wrote:
  Devs,
  
  Any plans about the BKL setting in .37? I've been running the rc's
  without it for a while now.
 
 What is BKL?

The Big Kernel Lock, search the Web there are plenty of explanations.

A short description is, that it is from the beginning of the
Multiprocessor support by Linux which prevents conflicts created by
doing some stuff at the central Kernel structures at the same time.

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Re: [arch-general] what happened to nut (network-ups-tools)?

2010-11-30 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:03:28 -0600 David C. Rankin
drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:
 Guys,
 
   Where did nut go? I just checked and network-ups-tools is no
 longer available. Did it change names? I must have missed it. Thanks.
 

It was moved to AUR since we had no components to really debug it,
there was silence from userbase so it was decided to move it in order
to give users of this package the possibility to debug and fix the
problem by themselves, keeping it in [community] was no fine solution
for that.

https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/19351
http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2010-September/010921.html

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] openssl 1.0.0.b-2

2010-11-17 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 17:41:59 +1000
Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote:
 On 17/11/10 16:43, Pierre Schmitz wrote:
  On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:40:27 +0100, Pierre Schmitz
  pie...@archlinux.de  wrote:
  Side note: make test does no longer pass with this version. It
  might be just the test itself that is broken though (tested
  different arches and also on Ubuntu). But I need to look into this
  though.
 
  This is now fixed in 1.0.0.b-2. So please sign off that one.
 
 
 signoff i686.
 
 Allan

Also signoff i686
Thorsten

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] openssl 1.0.0.b-2

2010-11-17 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:46:54 +0100
Thorsten Töpper atsut...@freethoughts.de wrote:
 On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 17:41:59 +1000
 Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote:
  On 17/11/10 16:43, Pierre Schmitz wrote:
   On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:40:27 +0100, Pierre Schmitz
   pie...@archlinux.de  wrote:
   Side note: make test does no longer pass with this version. It
   might be just the test itself that is broken though (tested
   different arches and also on Ubuntu). But I need to look into
   this though.
  
   This is now fixed in 1.0.0.b-2. So please sign off that one.
  
  
  signoff i686.
  
  Allan
 
 Also signoff i686
 Thorsten
 

And a signoff for x86_64 (desktop).

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Re: [arch-general] UbuntuOne

2010-10-05 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 13:57:05 -0500
Samir csg...@esamir.com wrote:
 I've noticed that there are some UbuntuOne related packages in aur,
 but many of them are very out of date.
 
 In theory, I'm told that we should be able to get UbuntuOne working
 under any Linux distro..I was wondering if there was any reason for
 the
 current state of the aur packages.  Is there a technicaly issue that
 prevents us from having more updated packages?

As packages in AUR are maintained by common users this has not really
to do with Arch itself. from a quick view it seems the Maintainer is
inactive. If you want to take care of the package write him a mail
asking what's the matter and if he can orphan the package if he is no
longer interested in them, if there was no reaction after two weeks,
write an orphan request to the [aur-general] mailing list. And one of
us TUs will orphan it for you.
 
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Re: [arch-general] Request to orphan package

2010-08-14 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:53:56 +0200
Laurent Carlier lordhea...@gmail.com wrote:
 Le samedi 14 août 2010 17:44:19, ptchinster a écrit :
  Hello,
  
  I am the maintainer of eclipse-android
  (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14544). One of the
  dependancies is eclipse-classic
  (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=32314) (v3.5 as opposed to
  3.6 in the main repos) which is NOT maintained by me. There are
  several issues with this PKGBUILD including being out of date, not
  having a working build(), and not offering a correct provides array.
  The first of which was brought to the current maintainers attention
  back on May 13th, and he hasn't touched it since.
  
  I am willing to adopt this package as soon as orphaned.
  
  Thanks,
  
  ptchinster
 
 You can adopt it!
 
 Give it love, love, love!

But please send future requests to the [aur-general] mailing list.

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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.34.2-2

2010-08-04 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 16:39:02 +0200
Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote:
 This new build fixes the b43 trouble lots of users have been having.
 This package is NOT in testing (2.6.35 currently resides there), but
 at:
 
 http://dev.archlinux.org/~thomas/kernel26/
 
 Please sign off (also, please someone with the b43 problem test if
 this is fixed).
 

Kernel runs and b43 works fine at my laptop.

Sign-off i686.

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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.34.2-2

2010-08-04 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 18:11:27 +0200
Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote:
 Am 04.08.2010 17:50, schrieb Thorsten Töpper:
  On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 16:39:02 +0200
  Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote:
  This new build fixes the b43 trouble lots of users have been
  having. This package is NOT in testing (2.6.35 currently resides
  there), but at:
 
  http://dev.archlinux.org/~thomas/kernel26/
 
  Please sign off (also, please someone with the b43 problem test if
  this is fixed).
 
  
  Kernel runs and b43 works fine at my laptop.
  
  Sign-off i686.
  
 
 I don't see you among the error reports. Was yours broken with
 2.6.34.2-1?
 

It was broken, I did the upgrade yesterday evening but didn't boot the
machine since then, so I tested it after I read the mail above and did
the upgrade to -2 afterwards.

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Re: [arch-general] Chroot 32bit under 64bit; Problems with kernel package

2010-07-25 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:22:45 +0930
Jordan Windsor jorda...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm following the guide available at this URL:
 http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch64_Install_bundled_32bit_system
 Currently I'm stuck on this step:
 
 [r...@archpc ~]# pacman --root /opt/arch32 --cachedir
 /opt/arch32/var/cache/pacman/pkg --config /opt/arch32/pacman.conf -S
 base base-devel
 error: failed to prepare transaction (package architecture is not
 valid) :: package kernel26-i915-2.6.34.1-1-x86_64 does not have a
 valid architecture
 
 I'm wondering how I should go about getting this chroot working.
 I'll be using the chroot to compile wine, I was unable to get it
 working with gcc-multilib.
 
 Thanks.

Why don't you use the devtools to create and use the chroot for
packaging? It'll help you a lot:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:Building_in_a_Clean_Chroot

Thorsten
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Re: [arch-general] Xorg 1.8 Nouveau dependencies

2010-06-26 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 12:00:44 +0100
Michishige Kaito chris.webs...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey,
 
 So, we all heard it doesn't need HAL anymore. But what does it need?
 It would seem like it depends on either nvidia or nvidia-utils
 because I got rid of those last night and now X won't start. Well...
 it _does_ start, but all I get is a bunch of nice coloured stripes
 across the screen in random angles and sizes. I'm not really sure how
 to handle this, since I can't seem to access my system now. I'm
 burning an arch ISO while I type, and gonna try that. Whilst... any
 tips?

You don't need a full reinstall.

When you're in grub select the entry, press e, select the kernel line
and press e again, add a single 3 to the end of the line and press
return to save this, then press b to boot this temporarily modified
entry.

If that does not work because you start your login manager as a DAEMON,
do the same with a single 1 and not a 3, so your System will boot
without daemons and you can kick the login manager from the init system
and start the daemons by using telinit 3.

As I'm not familiar with the new configuration either I can't give you
any tips for that.

Regards,
Thorsten
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Re: [arch-general] package obsolete dependencies

2010-05-12 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Wed, 12 May 2010 23:17:16 +0400
Evgeny Burmentyev vir.fo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello.
 1. The qiv package has an obsolete dependency libexif. The 2.2.3
 Changelog says:
 [tw] use gdk_pixbuf to autorotate with EXIF tags instead of libexif.
 Note: needs at least GDK 2.12
 
 2. The libtorrent will require makedepends=(cppunit) from the next
 release (it already requires it in the main svn repository).
 
 I'm terribly sorry, if I posted in a wrong place (tell me, if I did,
 and where to post such things next time, for I have some from time to
 time).

File bugreports at http://bugs.archlinux.org/

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