Re: [arch-general] Colin Pitrat is out of the office.

2008-08-01 Thread Travis Willard
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Colin Pitrat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I will be out of the office starting 01/08/2008 and will not return until
 11/08/2008.

 I will respond to your message when I return.

Oh no!  If you're out of the office, whoever will handle our
office-based issues?  You haven't even given the contact email of
someone who may be reached in your absence.

Heh, I love auto-replies to mailing lists.


Re: [arch-general] should gawk be in group base-devel?

2008-06-03 Thread Travis Willard
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:05 AM, Neil Darlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 It is often quoted that, for package building purposes, it is assumed a user
 has packages in group base-devel installed.

Ideally, the user should have BOTH base and base-devel installed for
package building.



Re: [arch-general] resurrecting srcpac

2008-05-27 Thread Travis Willard
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Michael Klier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Not clear, at least not to me:

- undecided whether to keep the package specific configs in /etc/srcpac.d
  or in /var/srcpac

Of the two, I'd suggest /etc/srcpac.d - it's essentially configuration data.

- if called with sudo what would be the benefit to drop privileges to the
  user who invoked srcpac instead than nobody. AJAIK makpkg doesn't
  support user specific build options, but the ones set in
  /etc/makepkg.conf (please correct me if I am wrong on this)

makepkg supports ~/.makepkg.conf as well - additionally, if you use
the original user instead of nobody, then permissions on the final
package file will be nice and pretty too. :)



Re: [arch-general] new url for cvs.archlinux.org?

2008-04-29 Thread Travis Willard
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Attila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

  i read the informations about the new abs and the step behind to svn again 
 but
  i'm too silly to find where i can look for the changes of a package as before
  under cvs.archlinux.org.

  Can someone post the new link or is this still under development?

  See you, Attila

I think the new url is repos.archlinux.org



Re: [arch-general] New abs and /var/abs/community

2008-04-16 Thread Travis Willard
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:48 AM, Karolina Lindqvist
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   With the new abs, community disappeared from /var/abs.
Do I need to do something special to get it?
  
after abs
  
shakti:~$ ls /var/abs
core  extra  local  README  testing  unstable
shakti:~$ grep REPOS /etc/abs.conf
# REPOS to be parsed by abs (in this order)
REPOS=(core extra unstable community testing)
shakti:~$

  Travis may have accidentally forgot the community repo when making up
  the cron job for this - should be easy though:
cvs -d/home/cvs-community export -r CURRENT community
  should do it, I think

Yup, totally forgot about community.  D'oh.  I'll whip something up
soon to fix this.

--
Travis



Re: [arch-general] Bad Wiki Editing - Wireless_Setup

2008-03-06 Thread Travis Willard
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 2:01 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   2008/3/6, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   Whomever recently (in the last hour or so) edited the wiki page for
Wireless_Setup messed up the characters. I am only getting square
   blocks now in many places.
  
AND no one is listed as the most recent author either.
  
I would go in a correct this, IF I knew how to back off the
   lastest(s) revisions, but alas I am not wiki-savvy.
  
Thanks for reading this far.
  
Very best regards;
  
Bob Finch
  
   Hi Bob,
   I have fixed the page, a japanese user (Yafengabc) rewrote the English
   page in Japanese language. I have created Japanese page and restored the
   older English page.
   Thanks for  marked ;)
   Regards
  
   --
   BaSh
   Linux User: #430842

  Um thanks for trying.

  However it is STILL messed up as far as I can tell, newer edit date...same
  problem.


If you look at the revision history, a guy named Yafengabc made the
original change.  BaSh fixed it, then Yafengabc came back and un-fixed
it again.  Then, moments later, he re-fixed it on his own.

Check it out now. Should be fine.



Re: [arch-general] Packages without license field in official repos

2008-02-22 Thread Travis Willard
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Xavi Soler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My intention is to know the number of non-free packages installed on my
  system. In Debian I can use 'vrms' [1]. I think Arch has nothing similar, but
  I can start programming an application like 'vrms' (maybe using libalpm or
  calling pacman directly).

  My first test has been typing:

  $ pacman -Q | pacman -Qi | less

  and reading carefully the license fields: most (BSDs and MITs specially)
  say 'custom'. The big problem I've found is that, quite often, I read the
  word 'none' there, but I can't understant how can it happen in packages
  stored in official repos. There are a lot of packages without license field.

  I could do a heavy research to know which packages include a license field 
 and
  which don't, and then warn their mantainers. But it would be a waste of time.

A waste of time we've already done.  We know which packages don't have
licenses - we even have a huge todo list of them.  We'll get to them
at some point.



Re: [arch-general] Packages without license field in official repos

2008-02-22 Thread Travis Willard
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Xavi Soler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 22 February 2008 19:36:38 Travis Willard wrote:
   On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Xavi Soler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
My intention is to know the number of non-free packages installed on my
 system. In Debian I can use 'vrms' [1]. I think Arch has nothing
similar, but I can start programming an application like 'vrms' (maybe
using libalpm or calling pacman directly).
   
 My first test has been typing:
   
 $ pacman -Q | pacman -Qi | less
   
 and reading carefully the license fields: most (BSDs and MITs specially)
 say 'custom'. The big problem I've found is that, quite often, I read
the word 'none' there, but I can't understant how can it happen in
packages stored in official repos. There are a lot of packages without
license field.
   
 I could do a heavy research to know which packages include a license
field and which don't, and then warn their mantainers. But it would be a
waste of time.
  
   A waste of time we've already done.  We know which packages don't have
   licenses - we even have a huge todo list of them.  We'll get to them
   at some point.

  I was talking about packages that have a known license but it is not in the
  PKGBUILD. For example, acpi is a GPL program in [extra] which don't have a
  licence field in its PKGBUILD.

So was I.



Re: [arch-general] AUR Release 1.5.0

2008-02-19 Thread Travis Willard
On Feb 19, 2008 10:21 AM, Kevin Monceaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -S,

 On Mon, 18 Feb 2008, Simo Leone wrote:

  I will be updating the AUR on main site sometime this evening. There
  might be intermittent downtime and maintenance messages, but downtime
  will be minimal.

 The new layout looks great.  But, it appears to have broken the aurvote
 package.  I just updated a package via yaourt and when it tried to check
 the vote status via aurvote, I got:

 == Checking for yaourt's vote status
 /tmp/aurvote-tmp-dokpm0/0.8.12-1/span/a/span: No such file or
 directory
 grep: /tmp/aurvote-tmp-dokpm0/0.8.12-1/span/a/span: No such file or
 directory
 grep: /tmp/aurvote-tmp-dokpm0/0.8.12-1/span/a/span: No such file or
 directory
 voted status not found voted status not found voted status not found voted
 status not found voted status not found voted status not found ERROR:
 Can't access http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?do_Details=1ID= voted
 status not found

 It doesn't look like anyone has filed a bug for the problem yet.  I'll do
 so as soon as I finish this e-mail.

Aurvote is a package in Unsupported - comment on its AUR page, don't
file a bug.  These packages aren't our responsibility.

http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=9845



Re: [arch-general] get pid of daemon in init script

2008-02-08 Thread Travis Willard
On Feb 8, 2008 3:06 PM, Sentinel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 It works perfectly (at least for me), just you have to ensure, that you
 call it with appropriate rights while testing:
 my testing:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ su
 Password:
 with power comes great responsibility
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sentinel# PID=`pidof -o %PPID -x /usr/sbin/proftpd`
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sentinel# echo $PID
 7469
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sentinel# [ -z $PID ]  echo pid is empty
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sentinel#

 Tom

That is because you already have /usr/sbin/proftpd running.  In the
case of running the start initscript, the PID is sampled before the
application ever starts, and hence will return no PID, as Dan already
explained.



Re: [arch-general] New User(sort of) and a packaging question

2008-01-29 Thread Travis Willard
On Jan 29, 2008 11:22 AM, Jason Chu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 07:55:26AM -0600, Kevin Monceaux wrote:
  Jason,
 
  On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Jason Chu wrote:
 
  Being the guy who wrote namcap, I'm pretty sure it doesn't do this at all.
 
  Can I get a copy of the PKGBUILD to test with?  It sounds like it should be
  detecting these...
 
  I sent you a private e-mail with the PKGBUILD attached.

 Ok, after building the PKGBUILD and running namcap on it, I got these
 messages:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] a]$ namcap c3270-3.3.7p1-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
 c3270  W: Dependency included but already satisfied (ncurses)
 c3270  W: Dependency included but already satisfied (readline)

 The depends line looks like this:

 depends=('ncurses' 'openssl' 'readline')

 Notice how openssl isn't listed by namcap as already satisfied?  If you
 follow the dependency tree, you'll find that ncurses and readline and
 covered by a dependency on openssl (openssl - glibc - bash - readline -
 ncurses).

 Namcap tries to give you the smallest subset of dependencies that your
 package needs.

 Now, there was a proposal to change the functionality.  To list all of the
 packages that your package directly depends on.  This will eventually
 happen, but that's not how it works right now.

 In conclusion, there is nothing in namcap about ignoring dependencies in
 the base group.

Ah - yeah, that makes more sense - sorry for the confusion.  I'm
curious, though, why he reported it listing no deps missing at all
when his depends=() array was empty.



Re: [arch-general] New User(sort of) and a packaging question

2008-01-28 Thread Travis Willard
On Jan 28, 2008 11:46 AM, Kevin Monceaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I found a few mentions of namcap on the wiki.  I tried it on the package I
 created, which I don't currently have any dependencies listed in, and the
 only problems it reports are missing maintainer and CVS id tags.  It
 mentions nothing about the missing dependencies.  By the way, What does
 the name namcap stand for?

namcap will find dependencies only when run on a built package - it
can't analyse a PKGBUILD and discover deps for you.

Build the package, then run namcap
/path/to/pkgname-pkgver-pkgrel.pkg.tar.gz and it'll tell you.  If you
can't even build the package because of missing deps on your system,
then check out the project's documentation - they're usually pretty
good about telling you what you need.



Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-30 Thread Travis Willard
On Nov 30, 2007 8:20 AM, Vinay Shastry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Nov 30, 2007 6:41 PM, Johannes Held [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hussam Al-Tayeb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   It will look more elegant that way.
  Let's use html-email with fancy logos and background images.
  :-)

 And something flash based! how can you forget flash???


This thread is getting offtopic fast.

Locked.





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