Re: [arch-general] How to configure Qt 5 theme?
On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 12:49:23PM +0100, Andrea Scarpino wrote: On Monday 04 March 2013 19:22:04 GSC wrote: I want to configure qt5 apps (like qt creator) theme to use the same as qt4 apps (oxygen) in KDE. How can I do this? And is there an appmenu-qt5 port? There's no oxygen for Qt5 yet. Then how does it breathe!! Sorry, couldn't resist :P
Re: [arch-general] Arch handbook as PDF
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:15:18AM +0100, Karol Blazewicz wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Hi :) is there an up to date handbook, beginner's guide or even better the Wiki available as PDF? I already found outdated PDFs. There may never be, because Arch moves fast and the wiki itself is constantly getting out of date. Also https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/30825 Maybe you can print / transform the wiki page you're insterested in to a pdf or use e.g. https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/any/arch-wiki-docs/ or https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/any/arch-wiki-lite/ There was also the handbook by Dusty Phillips, but as Karol said much of the arch related stuff gets outdated fast.
[arch-general] Difference between mkarchroot and arch-chroot
Can someone elaborate on the difference between mkarchroot and arch-chroot? Basically, i want a chrooted environment for testing some program. Alternatively, is there any other better way to create an isolated environment, apart from chroot and VMs.
Re: [arch-general] Difference between mkarchroot and arch-chroot
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:13:58AM +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote: mkarchroot creates a new system root. If you want to test a program in an isolated environment, I suggest you look into systemd-nspawn. If you want more security, libvirt-lxc may be your friend (it seems lxc is broken in many ways and doesn't work right with systemd, libvirt-lxc however seems to be fine, I tested neither). Thank you. I will take a look at them.
Re: [arch-general] Difference between mkarchroot and arch-chroot
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 06:08:01PM +0100, Kwpolska wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:38 AM, gt static.vor...@gmx.com wrote: Can someone elaborate on the difference between mkarchroot and arch-chroot? arch-chroot — chrooting into an existing environment, using on the Arch install medium to get to your brand new root you pacstrap’d ten seconds ago (or for recovery of an existing root). mkarchroot — creating a brand new Arch Linux environment/root. So, two different things when you think about it. Yup, I got it later on. Was a bit stupid question, now I think about it :P Anyway, since Thomas mentioned systemd-nspawn, and it seems to do the same stuff as arch-chroot, I was wondering what are the differences between the two, and would arch-chroot be deprecated in the future?
Re: [arch-general] alternative to pmount
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 09:56:32PM -0500, Juan Diego Tascón wrote: Last week pmount went from extra to aur. I used to use pmount to allow users to mount external devices as simple as: pmount /dev/sdb1 Is there an alternative to pmount in core, extra or community that allows users to mount with a simple command an external storage device? udevil.
Re: [arch-general] Awesome 3.5
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 09:26:49PM +0100, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: Hello, as a Chritsmas gift, Awesome 3.5 was released yesterdaty and will be available in few minutes in our community-testing repository. As you can expect, this update _will_ break your configuration. Please take time to read the announce[0] from Uli about this release before upgrading. [snip] [0] http://www.mail-archive.com/awesome@naquadah.org/msg06536.html I don't use awesome but Uli's message was one of the funniest emails I have ever read. Nice start to the day :P
Re: [arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.6.10-1
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 07:36:30PM +0100, Tobias Powalowski wrote: Hi guys, please signoff 3.6.10 series for both arches. package is not in testing, please grab it from here: http://dev.archlinux.org/~tpowa/linux/ This will move to [core] directly, because 3.7 is in [testing]. signoff for i686
Re: [arch-general] Prosody update
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:11:26AM -0800, David Benfell wrote: Hi all, It appears that the prosody package dependencies have been updated, but not the program itself: atlanta# prosodyctl start ** Prosody was unable to find luasocket This package can be obtained in the following ways: Source: http://www.tecgraf.puc-rio.br/~diego/professional/luasocket/ luarocks: luarocks install luasocket Debian/Ubuntu:sudo apt-get install liblua5.1-socket2 luasocket is required for Prosody to run, so we will now exit. More help can be found on our website, at http://prosody.im/doc/depends ** ** Prosody was unable to find LuaSec This package can be obtained in the following ways: Source: http://www.inf.puc-rio.br/~brunoos/luasec/ luarocks: luarocks install luasec Debian/Ubuntu:http://prosody.im/download/start#debian_and_ubuntu SSL/TLS support will not be available More help can be found on our website, at http://prosody.im/doc/depends ** *** util/encodings couldn't be loaded. Check that you have a recent version of libidn The full error was: error loading module 'util.encodings' from file '/usr/lib/prosody/util/encodings.so': /usr/lib/prosody/util/encodings.so: undefined symbol: luaL_register *** *** util/hashes couldn't be loaded. Check that you have a recent version of OpenSSL (libcrypto in particular) The full error was: error loading module 'util.hashes' from file '/usr/lib/prosody/util/hashes.so': /usr/lib/prosody/util/hashes.so: undefined symbol: luaL_register *** This is since an update this morning, in which various Arch lua packages had to be replaced with similarly named lua- packages. There's a bug report already opened: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/33063?project=5cat%5B0%5D=33string=prosody Please report/followup there. By the way, it is still not working for me with prosody 0.8.2-7
Re: [arch-general] A systemd less Linux alternative to Arch is hard to find but exists
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 05:14:22PM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: Forgot a change Tom requested, please reject previous if not too late! I'm sure I will have to switch to systemd on all my systems eventually, but I don't give up that easily ;-) For those looking for many of the plusses of Arch, you may want to check out Sabayon. The forums say there are no other distros akin enough to Arch, and that you will be stuck with systemd eventually anyway but I disagree and you may be surprised about what Sabayon offers and the similarities to Arch. I have heard that sabayon is slow, i don't know if that's true or not. Also, If one needs to compile a few packages such as we do from the abs, should portage be used?, since it isn't generally advised to mix binary packages and portage. Also, have you tried calculate linux? In any case i don't know why anyone would leave arch and want to use systemd on sabayon :P
[arch-general] Modify installed package version
Hey guys is there a way to modify an installed package's version using pacman, instead of upgrading the package. That is, only change the version in the database, but don't actually upgrade a package. Alternatively can I rename the package directory inside /var/lib/pacman/local/ and %VERSION% string inside the desc file to achieve the same?
Re: [arch-general] Modify installed package version
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 05:16:30PM +1100, Gaetan Bisson wrote: [2012-10-23 10:35:56 +0530] gt: Alternatively can I rename the package directory inside /var/lib/pacman/local/ and %VERSION% string inside the desc file to achieve the same? Sure you can. But what exactly are you trying to achieve? Avoid upgrading a specific package? The IgnorePkg option of pacman.conf can make that happen in a much more robust way. Actually, it is related to IgnorePkg. I have a few packages locally compiled, for example mutt. I have stripped all unnecessary options from mutt, and added it to IgnorePkg. Now when an upgrade is available, i see the changes and decide whether to upgrade or not. In case of mutt, the last two upgrades had added patches which i didn't need. So i just changed the version in PKGBUILD to correspond to the arch repos. Now instead of compiling everytime due to an unnecessary version bump, i thought there must be a way to just change the version in the database, hence the question. Thanks to you and Matthew for the answers.
Re: [arch-general] Modify installed package version
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 01:08:28PM +0200, Giorgio Lando wrote: On Tue 23/10/12, 12:14, gt wrote: Actually, it is related to IgnorePkg. I have a few packages locally compiled, for example mutt. I have stripped all unnecessary options from mutt, and added it to IgnorePkg. Now when an upgrade is available, i see the changes and decide whether to upgrade or not. In case of mutt, the last two upgrades had added patches which i didn't need. So i just changed the version in PKGBUILD to correspond to the arch repos. Perhaps you can create a local repo with repo-add and list it in pacman.conf before the official ones. That's a nice idea, though the packages i modify are usually less than 5, so i am fine with the current methodology. I'll keep it in mind for the future. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 01:40:19PM +0200, Damjan wrote: In your case, I believe it's easiest if you change the name of the package to mutt-custom or some-such. Optionally you could also add provides=(mutt) if there are some other packages that depend on mutt. I can do that, but then i wouldn't be notified of upgrades by pacman.
[arch-general] syslog-ng depends on systemd?
Hi, with the recent update of syslog-ng (3.3.6-2), systemd has been added as a dependency. I though systemd providing its own logging and syslog-ng wasn't needed. Then why is systemd needed for syslog-ng to run? As far i can see from the diffs, nothing has changed apart from adding systemd as a dependency.
Re: [arch-general] syslog-ng depends on systemd?
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 07:24:28PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: Look in syslog-ng.conf: unix-dgram(/run/systemd/journal/syslog); That means, in its default configuration it requires systemd. So you had been modifying it to work with initscripts? I see in syslog-ng's changelog that it tries to detect systemd at buildtime and creates the conf file accordingly. So basically it just tries to play nice with systemd and doesn't really require it.
[arch-general] You have mail message at login
Whenever I log in to a TTY, I get this message. I read my system mails through mutt, so i don't need this. I have unset MAILCHECK in .bashrc, but no effect. I set MAIL_CHECK_ENAB to no in login.defs, but still no effect. Lastly i tried creating a .hushlogin file in the user's home, but even that didn't have any effect. The message only appears when logging in through a TTY though, not in any other terminal. Any idea what's causing it to show up? ps: Gaetan, here's the content of my .bash_profile [[ -f ~/.bashrc ]] . ~/.bashrc so, i believe .bashrc is sourced on login.
Re: [arch-general] You have mail message at login
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:33:53AM -0400, Sébastien Leblanc wrote: On 16 October 2012 01:42, gt static.vor...@gmx.com wrote: Whenever I log in to a TTY, I get this message. I read my system mails through mutt, so i don't need this. Pam is taking care of showing whether you have mail or not. In /etc/pam.d/system-login, comment this line: sessionoptional pam_mail.so dir=/var/spool/mail standard You should not get new mail prompts anymore. That did it! I had searched in the pam directory earlier, but didn't grep through the files for mail. Thanks a lot.
Re: [arch-general] You have mail message at login
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 04:24:37PM +0200, Krzysztof Warzecha wrote: 2012/10/16 gt static.vor...@gmx.com: Any idea what's causing it to show up? Well, you could always try brute force method. Login and run this as root: strace -vft -p $TARGET_GETTY_PID -o /tmp/strace-getty Now login in straced terminal, logout and grep for New mail in /tmp/strace-getty. You will get (among other things) pid of process which wrote new mail on screen. You can easily find (with grep) parent process. I believe you know what to do from here ;). Ingenious method. Though I read sebastien's reply earlier and hence had found the culprit, i nevertheless tried yours too. First line of strace-getty showed pam_mail.so. Thanks.
Re: [arch-general] xf86-video ***
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 02:41:23PM +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote: Hi . What is the easiest way to stop pacman trying to update all the xf86-video* drivers for cards i do not have the system uses the xf86-video-nouveau driver perfectly well but tries to install sis ati sirrus trident and more I know about adding files at the command line --exclude and about entering a list in pacman.conf but is there a way that is quicker. You probably installed the xorg-drivers group. pacman doesn't fetch those drivers if you instruct it to install a specific one.
Re: [arch-general] Suggestions for email for a paranoid Archer
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 02:13:54PM -0400, Dave Reisner wrote: Google has no interest in singular people. Moreover, Googlers who take an interest in data or logs belonging to singular people find themselves no longer working at Google. I would believe that googlers who are caught peeking at people's data are fired, though this would apply to other service providers too, not just google.
Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot
On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 11:49:05AM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: On 01/10/12 11:21, Armando M. Baratti wrote: Authoritarian and despotic. My ban, please. Done... and for two weeks because I had to look up what despotic meant. lol, always keep a dictionary handy. May I suggest sdcv.
Re: [arch-general] ABS and pacman
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 02:09:59PM -0400, Manolo Martínez wrote: Hello, I've just had a minor hiccup, because one of the packages updated in my pacman -Syu this morning substituted a version I had tweaked the ABS way. Nothing serious, as I say, and wholly my fault, but yet I was wondering: Would it be possible/make sense to have pacman inform us whenever it is going to substitute a package that has been ABS'd? I put my local packages under a group custom_packages and add IgnoreGroup = custom_packages in pacman.conf Whenever there's an update available, pacman notifies me as others have mentioned. Then I go to the arch git repo for the package, see the changes and decide if i need to add those changes to my package. For example yesterday mutt was updated due to a bug, but since that bug doesn't affect me, i didn't upgrade my custom mutt package.
Re: [arch-general] Upgrading an old system
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 08:35:01AM +0200, Guillermo Leira wrote: :-) It was an arch system. A Laptop with a 700 MHz PIII and 256 MB RAM. It's not very useful nowadays. And how would a pic prove it? I have the pacman log, but even that could be forged. :-) Don't worry we were just messing around :P
Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 10:19:42AM +0200, Tom Rand wrote: On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 11:18:52AM +0200, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:11:12 +0200 schrieb fredbezies fredbez...@gmail.com: I was fed up by the crap of the original poster. So I said what need to be written, even if it was a little hard. I will remove myself from this list, because it is no more than crap because of systemd haters. Oh, other people's opinions and experiences are crap? And yes, the systemd haters have good reasons to hate it, because systemd is crap exactly like PulseAudio. And, yes, most of the systemd haters have tested both themselves. Heiko way to go with kicking up a freeking troll fest! Is this gonna happen everytime systemd gets a bug? come on get off the systemd troll bandwagon just ignore it, seeing as you don't use it! And you need to express your opinion no matter what... The thread was silent since yesterday but people like you need to keep pouring more oil to the fire! If you consider him a troll, then add him to your ignore list. But at least do not reactivate dormant topics, just because you need to speak.
Re: [arch-general] Upgrading an old system
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 10:21:04PM +0200, Guillermo Leira wrote: Hi! I have just finished upgrading a system that was powered off (broken battery) since February 2011. Just for the fun of doing so. I couldn't help saying it... I'm quite proud of this achievement. ;-) Pics or it didn't happen! Also sent using Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 :P
Re: [arch-general] Help mounting Windows drive
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 09:57:06PM -0400, Randy wrote: On 09/09/2012 09:36 PM, rafael ff1 wrote: 2012/9/9 Randy gumper1...@gmail.com: In the past I have been able to mount my Windows computer using the following command: mount -t cifs -o username=USERNAME,password=PASSWORD //192.168.1.107/Users/gumper /mnt/share/ Now when I try this I receive the message: Unable to find suitable address. I am able to ping the IP address without any problem. Maybe missing DOMAIN or WORKGROUP in username= ? I just tried changing username=USERNAME to username=WORKGROUP/USERNAME and I get the same results. Try mount -t cifs -o username=USERNAME,password=PASSWORD 192.168.1.107\\Users\\gumper /mnt/share
Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 03:30:43PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 13:51 +0200, Damjan Georgievski wrote: And this is yet another example how initscripts are broken. I had a friend whose GDM was not coming up because it was starting too fast after dbus. As a last resort we rearranged the DAEMONS and moved gdm as the last daemon (after NM etc) and it magically started to work. I use GDM too, but it's not in the DAEMONS list. [root@archlinux spinymouse]# grep DAEMONS /etc/rc.conf # DAEMONS DAEMONS=(69switch_xorg.conf hwclock syslog-ng !network !netfs crond acpid dbus networkmanager rtirq) [root@archlinux spinymouse]# pacman -Qi gdm Name : gdm Version: 3.4.1-3 *?* You probably use the inittab method https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Display_Manager#inittab_method
Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 06:58:02PM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: On Aug 31, 2012 6:32 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Will this be an issue for him if he switches to full systemd as it has removed inittab Yes, inittab is ignored. It would be trivial to add support for it via a generator, but I don't know of any reason to. We never really used inittab in Arch. Just pointing out that I have been using the inittab method since 3 years. It is also mentioned in the arch wiki, and I am sure many people use/used the inittab way.
Re: [arch-general] systemd pulseaudio
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:10:22AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 10:07 +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote: Sorry for this second post, but I forgot [arch-general] in subject You don't need to add [arch-general] to the subject, it automatically is add to the mails coming through the list. And, I don't see any extra [arch-general] in the subject. so you forgot to add it again :D
Re: [arch-general] SystemD poll
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 05:56:32AM -0600, Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:24:31PM -0500, C Anthony Risinger wrote: so buck up, do something useful, or find another outlet ... puh-puh-please? I'm not sure exactly what you're asking for here. When I have time I do tinker with making daemontools more accessible. If I ever get it polished to the point of making a package out of it, I may submit it to the AUR -- If there is sufficient interest -- which, I can only discover by getting the idea in peoples' heads and weighing their reaction. There is already a package for daemontools in the AUR with a decent amount of votes. I am fairly interested in daemontools, but currently don't want to tinker with any init till I am forced to stop using initscripts :P Maybe you can test the AUR package and see if works as good as your own setup, and maybe you can contribute to that package if you ever find the time to do so.
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd
offtopic On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 01:25:46PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: I wouldn't touch Avahi with a barge pole either. Unfortunately I don't see any alternative to it. Can you point one out, if any? I use it for bonjour protocol support. /offtopic
Re: [arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 05:28:03PM +0200, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Thu, 16 Aug 2012 17:08:53 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org: This is a technical mailing list. If you want to discuss technical topics about Arch, you're in the right place. If you want to state your _opinion_, get yourself a blog. And if this opinion is about something going on (for the better or for the worse) in Arch Linux? If I have concerns about systemd for good reasons, even if they are not technical but, say if you like, personal? Well, the personal concerns can easily become technical ones sooner or later. See PA. Blaming ALSA for PA's bugs. What if this will happen with systemd, too? And I bet this will happen sooner or later. Shall I really shut up or open my own blog, which the Arch devs, TUs and other users for sure won't know or read? Or would it be better to say my opinion on this technical mailing list, so that people can think about that before probably doing a mistake? I agree. Posting on a blog doesn't get you the intended audience, unless it's a well known one. All you'll get is crawlers and spammers. I enjoy all the discussions on this list, and value the opinion of all users, and if there's someone/something I don't like, I just ignore that. As simple as that.
Re: [arch-general] SystemD poll
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 05:23:37PM +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 07:09:47PM +0200, Jelle van der Waa wrote: Also you're poll doesn't give any arguments for or against the move, unedacted users should look into the benefits of moving to systemd. They should look at both the pros and cons. One problem with this is that much of the the documentation (except the manpages) is available only on the author's blog. Which according to a previous comment will be 'opinion' rather than objective information. And IMHO even that is bit optimistic. Very well said. More so if the person in question is known to blow his own trumpet...
Re: [arch-general] Some funny bloke - 2
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 09:29:26PM +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: Just received a second bogus 'unsubscribe confirmation request'. This begins to look like stalking. The request was sent from anonymouse.org, so whoever is doing this is a miserable coward apart from whatever else. On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 04:42:33PM -0600, Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia wrote: On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 09:29:26PM +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: Just received a second bogus 'unsubscribe confirmation request'. This begins to look like stalking. The request was sent from anonymouse.org, so whoever is doing this is a miserable coward apart from whatever else. It was especially hurtful for me. QQ I've done my very best to stay focused on the actual software and the argumentation of their merits. Thankfully, they are courteous enough to send you a confirmation link :P On a more serious note, please ignore them, as I for one valued the contributions of you both.
Re: [arch-general] Lennart Poettering on udev-systemd
On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 02:05:10PM -0600, Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 02:37:54PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I suspect that BSD for artist that draw can be used, but for audio not. Am I mistaken? I'm not sure I understand the question. There's a lot of audio software in FreeBSD. Whether any of it suits your purposes, I can not say. http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ Arch certainly has great stuff in this department. The AUR's full of decent packages. But I'm not really an artist interested in audio so I can't say how any of it compares. Offtopic: Your system clock seems to be way off.
Re: [arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.4.8-1
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 08:22:47AM +0200, Tobias Powalowski wrote: Hi guys, please signoff 3.4.8 series for both arches. package is not in testing, please grab it from here: http://dev.archlinux.org/~tpowa/linux/ This will move to [core] directly, because 3.5.1 is in [testing]. signoff i686. everything working fine, including suspend on a pentium 4.
Re: [arch-general] Something wrong with firefox/thunderbird driving X cpu usage - 100%
On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 04:14:20PM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: On 08/09/2012 03:56 PM, Baho Utot wrote: Must keep up with the I need a new version because the old one is working too well. Must find something to break Aye, the microsoft culture has finally invaded linux. No kidding! In more ways than one... It's nice to know the new thunderbird only requires about 100M more RAM than thunderbird 2.x did. Good lord! So much for tight, well optimized code that uses minimal resources. Take a look at: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Testing:Memory_Usage_Problems ** don't forget to look under the References section at the end. Especially the bug fixes that talk about correcting massive memory usage... Why don't you guys try something like claws or sylpheed, if you are having problem with thunderbird. I have used claws a couple of times and I can say that it consumes minimal resources (for a graphical client). Also, for browser based solutions maybe you can give opera (it includes a good email client), or seamonkey a try. In the end if you don't have something against cli clients, you can try mutt or sup.
Re: [arch-general] New dual install iso -- Where the heck is arch-setup??
On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 01:17:37AM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: Guys, What happened to the arch setup autoinstaller script that guided you though the install process?? It was minimal, and worked very well to guide you through. Even helpful with raid installs after your arrays were assembled and partitioned. Now, unless I'm completely missing something, we a back to a total manual install with archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall. I've looked at the basic setup wiki and the install guide wiki and I don't see the friendly install tool referenced anywhere. So am I missing it, or are we just back to a manual install? (guessing where packages are /usr/bin, /usr/sbin or /sbin. On archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall, /usr/sbin is not in the default path, so typing dhcpcd as instructed in the wiki -- does nothing... I really liked the old arch installer. It was a fairly brain-dead install that nicely walked you though the install process with minimal keystrokes and choices required. Is that installer on the archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall image? If so where? (This is an arch client vbox install if that makes any difference...) David, you are fairly active on the mailing lists, and it's amusing that you totally missed the discussions related to the removal of AIF a few weeks ago.
Re: [arch-general] Install wiki - recommendations regarding 'swap' ?
On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 08:46:05PM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: All, After installing without AIF, I want to update the install wiki to drop a note about swap. It isn't addressed at all. What is the current Arch recommendation regarding swap creation? I.E.: recommended for systems w/less that 1G of RAM, create swap file of what size? (256M?) Even if swap is not recommended, I at least want to drop that note in the basic install. Thanks. As others on this thread have elaborated, it comes down to the individual's need. I don't think any distro can dictate about the need of a swap or not.
Re: [arch-general] chromium crash when print dialog is invoked
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 10:15:33AM +0200, Magnus Therning wrote: On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Oon-Ee Ng ngoonee.t...@gmail.com wrote: Probably the only people running Linux systems without cups are the DIY distro groups (Arch, gentoo etc.) as I don't think this would have been caught in the bigger distros where if I'm not mistaken cups is installed by default I think you are spot on. Correct me if I'm wrong, but print-to-file is available without having cups running, right? (I'm nowhere near any of my Linux machines at the moment so I can't test it for myself.) Yes, I often use print to file (mainly with firefox), and it does not require the cups daemon to be running. Also, I am experiencing chromium hanging when trying to print on a non-DE environment.
Re: [arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.4.7-1
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 08:22:53AM +0200, Tobias Powalowski wrote: Hi guys, please signoff 3.4.7 series for both arches. package is not in testing, please grab it from here: http://dev.archlinux.org/~tpowa/linux/ This will move to [core] directly, because 3.5 is in [testing]. Signoff i686.
Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 09:18:50AM +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote: I'm worried about all this too. I have an Atom at home, so moving back to Gentoo is not an option. I have some programs made to be compiled against dietlibc, which does not support *BSD, so this is not an option either. I took a look at Slackware, but I'm not enthusiastic about using old packages, and I was put off by the install method. Yes, Arch's method is the easiest and cleanest, specially this variant: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fast_Arch_Install_from_existing_Linux_System#Another_method:_Installing_from_an_existing_Linux_with_an_Arch_installation_image I have many customizations, and a rolling release seems essential to me. So, what to do? I *shall not* use UDEV/Poetterix. I understand the developers' predicament: what should they do when the KISS principle is in a collision course with upstream trends? I don't have a solution, but I fear that this course will end up by killing Arch. The rc.conf problem is just a symptom... You can try aptosid, or linux mint debian edition.
Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 02:39:35PM +0200, Nelson Marambio wrote: Am 22.07.2012 10:58, schrieb gt: You can try aptosid, or linux mint debian edition. Really Mint ? I switched FROM Mint TO Arch because upgrading Mint ended up in a re-installation of the whole system :-( On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 03:38:52PM -0700, David Benfell wrote: On 07/22/12 05:39, Nelson Marambio wrote: Really Mint ? I switched FROM Mint TO Arch because upgrading Mint ended up in a re-installation of the whole system :-( Yes, dist-upgrade simply doesn't work anymore because Ubuntu, Mint, and I assume Debian are all making changes between releases that break the upgrades. That, too, is why I switched to Arch Linux. Nelson, David LMDE is not the usual mint. It is rolling release based on debian testing, so no dist-upgrade stuff. Frankly, I haven't tried it, but I don't think it will break stuff anymore than arch does. All I have heard is praise about it, but I am too engrossed in arch to give it a thought, yet.
Re: [arch-general] claws-mail is it possible to see own posts to mailinglist?
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 09:16:57AM +0200, Tobias Powalowski wrote: Hi, I have a big problem with claws-mail, is it somehow possible to see own posts to mailinglists? I'm using gmail imap and somehow my own posts are not shown. Thunderbird does not have this issue. greetings tpowa You don't have a sent or all mail folder/tag ?
Re: [arch-general] claws-mail is it possible to see own posts to mailinglist?
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 01:07:40PM +0530, gt wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 09:16:57AM +0200, Tobias Powalowski wrote: Hi, I have a big problem with claws-mail, is it somehow possible to see own posts to mailinglists? I'm using gmail imap and somehow my own posts are not shown. Thunderbird does not have this issue. greetings tpowa You don't have a sent or all mail folder/tag ? EDIT: Maybe this is relevant http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php?title=Using_Claws_with_Gmail
Re: [arch-general] arch with a specific kernel version
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 03:11:51PM +0100, andrea crotti wrote: I would like to create multiple arch linux installations with a specific (a quite old 2.6 version) kernel version. Is that in theory possible/easy? I have a new one recently created but the downport doesn't seem so easy, so maybe it would just be easier to start with an older one, any suggestions?? You can theoretically do that, but you'll probably have to use older versions of all other software too (apart from the kernel). Take a look at http://arm.konnichi.com/ You can manually download all the older versions of the required software from this site, but it won't be an easy task.
Re: [arch-general] mpd, ncmpcpp
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 01:47:48PM +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote: Dear list I am switching lots of my GUI apps to CLI ones. Currently, I am moving from Clemetine music player to ncmpcpp. [snip] So, when are you switching to mutt :P
Re: [arch-general] A question specifically about upgrading an existing arch system from grub legacy to grub without UEFI or GPT
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 05:26:23PM +0100, mike cloaked wrote: I have been following the discussions in various places including on this list about the forthcoming change from grub to become grub-legacy and the default bootloader becoming grub2. On all my arch systems I have grub with MBR partitioning, booting to BIOS initially - and none of my systems is modern enough to have UEFI instead of BIOS. So I have been reading up on what I will need to do when grub2 version 2.00 appears in [core] - and how to successfully achieve the changeover. However I still cannot determine if it will be necessary to make sure that there is a post-MBR gap of 2MiB between the MBR and the first partition when the system will remain using MBR partitioning and grub2 will be the bootloader. So this applies to systems with no GPT partitions, and no UEFI. In my systems that have been running some time some have 64 sectors to where the start of the first partition is, and others have 2,000 sectors which is about 1MiB - and I still don't know if grub2 version 2.00 will not work on those systems or not. I do know that other distros such as Fedora version F16 have systems running successfully using grub2 prior to version 2.00 with MBR partitioning and BIOS and boot perfectly well without the 2MiB post MBR gap. Perhaps this changes with the release of grub2 version 2.00? Achieving a post-MBR gap of at least 2MiB will be a painful process as shrinking the first partition and then moving it towards partition 2 with an MBR partitioned disk is time consuming and not always successful in those systems where in the past I have adjusted the partitions on a drive. Maybe the recent versions of tools such as PartedMagic will cope better than it did a couple of years ago? Can someone help out with a clear explanation please. I am usually pretty good with upgrades and preparation but this has foxed me! i.e. specifically for a BIOS-MBR hard drive using grub2 that it is vital to have a post-MBR gap of at least 2 MiB (where no GPT partitioning will be in use)? Why do you need to upgrade to grub2? Even if grub-legacy won't be in the official repositories, it'll be in the AUR. Also, you don't need to reinstall grub every now and then, so i don't see the need to upgrade.
[arch-general] k3b/cdrecord problem burning dual layer disc
Hey folks A few days ago i was trying to burn an iso to a dual layer dvd, but i got an i/o error. Thankfully though the burn failed, but it spared the disc :) I tried downgrading cdrtools but that didn't fix it either. I found out that the iso was about 4200 MB in size and apparently trying to burn it to a dual layer dvd gave me the error. I tried burning a larger iso, about 6500 MB to the same disc and it went fine. Also burning the smaller iso to a single layer dvd went fine too. So there was no problem with the iso. So, i think there's a bug in cdrecord or maybe k3b? Trying to burn a single layer dvd sized iso to a double layer dvd fails. Can others confirm the same?
Re: [arch-general] Booting archlinux .iso to take a look
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:24:26AM -0400, Chris Jones wrote: On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 04:07:34AM EDT, Jelle van der Waa wrote: [..] Bit of a shame Archlinux does not provide a live environment that lets you verify you can run X11.. connect to the network.. etc. You can connect to the network with the live-cd, since the netinstall uses the internet to download the packages. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I only have access to a wireless connection at this point. With current ubuntu-based liveCD's¹ that are designed to demo the product, my wireless connection is available as soon as I'm presented with the desktop. When you boot the Archlinux .iso, once you're at the root prompt, you would need to extract the relevant packages such as wicd or network-manager et al. manually from the .iso before you can contemplate bringing up a wireless connection². Nothing wrong with that, mind you³.. The .iso is simply not designed to work that way. Btw checkout the testiso's for more recent kernels, worked fine for me in a VM. Because the network connection from your VM to the host system is not a wireless connection. It emulates a standard wired connection that requires no exotic firmware or additional packages: aeverything you need to access the network is ‘in the kernel’. I am not being critical of Archlinux from a general standpoint.. it's just that my circumstances are what they are and as such the .iso does not currently meet my requirements. CJ ¹ .. which means that these liveCD's ship some non-free firmware to keep my wifi NIC satisfied.. ² .. and copy over the iwlwifi-*-ucode blobs from a /lib/firmware/ that lives in another partition.. ³ .. I have the same wifi firmware problem with debian as with Archlinux for instance.. Answering to your original question about trying out archlinux using a live environment. Archlinux doesn't ship without anything but the bare essentials to run an OS. There is no DE, GUI, default apps, etc. as all is left to the user to decide what to use. As has been mentioned before basically arch live cd is mainly useful for installation and/or recovery. There are many arch based distributions, some shipping live cds with guis, which you can use to take for a test ride. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Based_Distributions_(Active)
Re: [arch-general] locale variables
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 06:23:47PM +0200, nelsonmaram...@gmx.de wrote: TY for your answer. For now, I use *sdiff* to edit and merge with new *.pacnew* files. I was confused this time because Thunar explorer show me local.gen as a binary! But this is not the case, so I will merge the two local.gen. Have a closer look to the filename: there is locale.gen, the plain text file where you uncomment the entries you need. And there is locale_gen , really a binary, which you execute after editing the locale.gen. Actually locale-gen resides in /usr/sbin. So Arno wouldn't find it in /etc. Also, locale-gen isn't a binary either, it's a shell script.
Re: [arch-general] [Offtopic] back up /var/log before shutdown
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:36:17AM +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote: Dear all, [snip] TY for advising. Hello Arno Sorry for the offtopic bit, but i have noticed that your threads tend to branch out from some other thread, many times. I believe that you use the reply button on an existing topic and then start your own thread. This looks very weird and is also confusing, as i think your message is related to the one you forked, while it is not. Please always start a new thread ;)
Re: [arch-general] [Offtopic] back up /var/log before shutdown
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 09:51:03PM +0200, Geert Hendrickx wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 14:38:27 +0530, gt wrote: Hello Arno [snip] Please always start a new thread ;) For the mutt users, just press # to decouple the message from the parent thread. :-) /offtopic Thanks for the advice. I knew about the feature, but never got around to using it.
Re: [arch-general] Arch as a web server
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:08:02PM +0200, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: On 06/19/2012 11:56 AM, Arno Gaboury wrote: Hi all, I plan to settle in the comimg months a web server to deliver many services to the trading community (I am myself a trader). I daily use Arch as my system on my home box, and I must admit I am very satisfied by its strength and its very active and deep involved community. My plan is to first train building the website on a VM server, then go to a remote dedicated server. Can you please give me some pro/against reasons for using Debian distro rather than Archlinux as a web server? Is there any provider offering Arch distro, as it seems it is hard, near impossible, to find one. TY for your advises. I've been running an Arch web server for 3 years and there are absolutely no problems. Can you please elaborate how you manage the regular updates, especially kernel, udev, glibc etc. Do you hold back the upgrades to packages which require a restart?
Re: [arch-general] create Arch based distro
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:11:15AM +0300, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας wrote: no, no, it was just an example... On Jun 20, 2012 12:08 AM, Ike Devolder ike.devol...@gmail.com wrote: Op woensdag 20 juni 2012 00:05:01 schreef Δημήτρης Ζέρβας: chakra?? chakra project: kde-centric originally arch based distro http://www.chakra-project.org/ a full list: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Based_Distributions Well i assume, you want a custom distro. Give archiso a try. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Archiso
Re: [arch-general] nvidia 295.59-1 dmesg output
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:25:07PM -0700, Don deJuan wrote: On 06/18/2012 12:05 PM, Rodrigo Rivas wrote: GRUB2 documentation is notably difficult to read, but from http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Simple-configuration.html#Simple-configuration I guess that the relevant option to disable this feature is to use GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text instead of GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep. Thanks again for your input and time to find those links to share. The last with text was ticket for me. No need for vga=0 with that. The only downfall though with having to do this is if I go to a different TTY the text is massive, I get why it is just sucks, I liked having normal size text when on the terminal. Again thank you, hopefully Nvidia will get this sorted out soon and can go back to the old method. I don't think nvidia is going to sort this out, hence the warning message. On the other hand, you can stick with the high resolution tty for now, as it is not guaranteed to break. If it does, then you can switch to the lower resolution.
Re: [arch-general] nvidia 295.59-1 dmesg output
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 10:16:55AM -0700, Don deJuan wrote: Are you still seeing the output in the newest one that came after this update push? I am still seeing it. Not sure I really get what the issue even is. Just upgraded to the latest driver, and yes i am still seeing it as well. The issue is that nvidia has decided to warn people that these framebuffer drivers may cause problems. They weren't supported earlier too, but worked anyhow. But recently they are causing problems for some people so nvidia thought it would be best to warn people about the use of these drivers. You must be having a vga= entry in your boot parameters, as do i. I tried with vga=0 and didn't see this message. See the following message by Uroš for more details. On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 10:44:10AM +, Uroš Vampl wrote: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2561806postcount=39 Basically, vesafb with the nvidia driver was never supported. It used to work, it may still work, but that's by pure chance.
Re: [arch-general] nvidia 295.59-1 dmesg output
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 01:40:08AM -0700, Don deJuan wrote: On 06/15/2012 11:33 PM, gt wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 06:55:10AM +0100, Jason Steadman wrote: On 16 June 2012 06:46, gt static.vor...@gmx.com wrote: Hey guys, after upgrading to 295.59 from 295.53, i am seeing the following in the dmesg output: NVRM: Your system is not currently configured to drive a VGA console NVRM: on the primary VGA device. The NVIDIA Linux graphics driver NVRM: requires the use of a text-mode VGA console. Use of other console NVRM: drivers including, but not limited to, vesafb, may result in NVRM: corruption and stability problems, and is not supported. Any idea what this is about. Seems to be about the framebuffer driver. But earlier no configuration was needed for that. Moreover the virtual console seems to be working fine. Anyone else got a similar message in the log? UEFI install by any chance? I ask because the message correlates to http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2543252postcount=13 Nope, no uefi. It's a pentium 4, with nvidia geforce 210 card. Are you also seeing this in dmesg as well? nvidia :01:00.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0 nvidia :01:00.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0 vgaarb: device changed decodes: PCI::01:00.0,olddecodes=io+mem,decodes=none:owns=io+mem NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module 295.59 Wed Jun 6 21:19:40 PDT 2012 No, i am not getting any similar message.
Re: [arch-general] nvidia 295.59-1 dmesg output
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 01:19:58PM +0300, Ionut Biru wrote: On 06/16/2012 08:46 AM, gt wrote: Hey guys, after upgrading to 295.59 from 295.53, i am seeing the following in the dmesg output: NVRM: Your system is not currently configured to drive a VGA console NVRM: on the primary VGA device. The NVIDIA Linux graphics driver NVRM: requires the use of a text-mode VGA console. Use of other console NVRM: drivers including, but not limited to, vesafb, may result in NVRM: corruption and stability problems, and is not supported. Any idea what this is about. Seems to be about the framebuffer driver. But earlier no configuration was needed for that. Moreover the virtual console seems to be working fine. Anyone else got a similar message in the log? you have omitted what i the most important. your boot list parameters and lsmod. boot parameter (grub legacy): kernel /boot/vmlinuz-linux root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/ ro edd=off resume=/dev/sda2 vga=792 lsmod output: Module Size Used by lm85 14753 0 hwmon_vid 2280 1 lm85 snd_hda_codec_hdmi 21248 4 nvidia 10938779 40 sg 20881 0 snd_hda_codec_realtek51533 1 snd_pcm_oss33381 0 snd_mixer_oss 12863 2 snd_pcm_oss snd_hda_intel 20208 1 snd_hda_codec 80701 3 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel ppdev 4750 0 nfs 232277 0 nfs_acl 1931 1 nfs snd_pcm61237 4 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel lockd 52245 1 nfs parport_pc 26633 0 snd_page_alloc 5901 2 snd_pcm,snd_hda_intel snd_hwdep 4746 1 snd_hda_codec snd_timer 14902 1 snd_pcm i2c_i8017088 0 8139too18023 0 snd44426 9 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_pcm_oss,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_pcm,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_mixer_oss i2c_core 16653 3 lm85,i2c_i801,nvidia parport26095 2 ppdev,parport_pc intel_agp 8720 0 mii 3439 1 8139too iTCO_wdt 10705 0 auth_rpcgss25802 1 nfs microcode 8825 0 intel_gtt 11229 1 intel_agp processor 23783 0 button 3614 0 iTCO_vendor_support 1545 1 iTCO_wdt agpgart21967 3 nvidia,intel_agp,intel_gtt soundcore 4378 2 snd evdev 7630 4 sunrpc153824 4 nfs,auth_rpcgss,lockd,nfs_acl fscache36651 1 nfs ext4 385248 4 crc16 1091 1 ext4 jbd2 62437 1 ext4 mbcache 4345 1 ext4 usbhid 31733 0 hid67113 1 usbhid sd_mod 26959 7 sr_mod 13180 0 cdrom 30472 1 sr_mod pata_acpi 2388 0 ata_generic 2391 0 uhci_hcd 19776 0 ata_piix 18776 5 libata146055 3 pata_acpi,ata_generic,ata_piix scsi_mod 112541 4 sg,libata,sd_mod,sr_mod ehci_hcd 36086 0 usbcore 123297 4 uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd,usbhid usb_common 622 1 usbcore
[arch-general] nvidia 295.59-1 dmesg output
Hey guys, after upgrading to 295.59 from 295.53, i am seeing the following in the dmesg output: NVRM: Your system is not currently configured to drive a VGA console NVRM: on the primary VGA device. The NVIDIA Linux graphics driver NVRM: requires the use of a text-mode VGA console. Use of other console NVRM: drivers including, but not limited to, vesafb, may result in NVRM: corruption and stability problems, and is not supported. Any idea what this is about. Seems to be about the framebuffer driver. But earlier no configuration was needed for that. Moreover the virtual console seems to be working fine. Anyone else got a similar message in the log?
Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:18:17AM -0300, Victor Silva wrote: 2012/6/14 gt static.vor...@gmx.com Since you have already reverted to the old kernel, you don't further need to downgrade it, as you have already downgraded it. (Assuming, you did a pacman -U old-kernel) I did it for the kenel which hangs, the one before it does not boot as described on the previous posts. So somehow I need to find the last working configuration. Also is shutdown -F a dangerous practice? Cause this works for me. from the man page, -F switch forces a fsck on reboot. So, i don't think it is dangerous.
Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:14:06PM -0300, Victor Silva wrote: Oki I reverted to the old kernel and I'm back to the old scenario how can I properly downgrade a kernel? Regards and thx for the help so far guys. This community rocks. Since you have already reverted to the old kernel, you don't further need to downgrade it, as you have already downgraded it. (Assuming, you did a pacman -U old-kernel)
Re: [arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.3.8-1
On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 10:51:26AM +0200, Tobias Powalowski wrote: Am 06.06.2012 17:13, schrieb Sudaraka Wijesinghe: On 06/06/12 18:31, Tobias Powalowski wrote: Hi guys, please signoff 3.3.8 series for both arches. package is not in testing, please grab it from here: http://dev.archlinux.org/~tpowa/linux/ This will move to [core] directly, because 3.4.1 is in [testing]. greetings tpowa Just installed and rebooted x86_64, all seem to be good. anyone for i686? I am getting the following error: linux-headers-3.3.8-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz: invalid or corrupted package (PGP signature)
Re: [arch-general] broken zip after upgrade
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 09:52:54AM +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote: Dear list, after a whole bunch of fresh upgrades yesterday, 2012/05/12, I can not unzip with File Roller (default app), with expanding tar.gz still working. Here are the two error messages: */There is no command installed for Zip archive files. Do you want to search for a command to open this file?/* Then I click on search command button, it brings a new window: */There was an internal error trying to search for applications: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided by any .service files/* I have no certitude, but I suspect the outdated polkit 0.104 could be the culprit. There is a new 0.105 version since a few weeks on the website: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/polkit/snapshot/polkit-0.105.tar.gz Following instructions, I was able to build it fine, but I don't want to make install on my system, as I understand it is a good way to break it. I decided to create a package following the Archwiki. Here is my PKGBUILD file : /*# $Id$ # Maintainer: Jan de Groot j...@archlinux.org pkgname=polkit pkgver=0.105 pkgrel=2 pkgdesc=Application development toolkit for controlling system-wide privileges arch=(i686 x86_64) license=('LGPL') url=http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PolicyKit; depends=('glib2' 'pam' 'expat') makedepends=('intltool' 'gtk-doc' 'gobject-introspection') replaces=('policykit') options=('!libtool') source=(http://cgit.freedesktop.org/polkit/snapshot/$pkgname-$pkgver.tar.gz) md5sums=('ad070a194d444fa89f627fd54a124fad') build() { cd $pkgname-$pkgver autoconf ./autogen.sh make } check() { cd $pkgname-$pkgver make -k check } package() { cd $pkgname-$pkgver make DESTDIR=$pkgdir install install -m644 $srcdir/polkit.pam $pkgdir/etc/pam.d/polkit-1 }*/ I corrected the old 0.104 one according to the new changes. I have problem with md5sums, and have no real idea how to write the numbers. makepkg returns an error : /*Validating source files with md5sums... polkit-0.105.tar.gz ... FAILED*/ So 2 questions : how to deal with this md5sums error? Once this issue is solved, can I makepkg and install on my system, whitout breaking anything? You can temporarily skip the md5sum check using $ makepkg --skipinteg
Re: [arch-general] FS#29803 - Kernel 3.3.4-2 panic
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 02:56:02PM +0200, Martti Kühne wrote: Maybe pasting some output would help? [1] cheers! mar77i [1] http://paste.pocoo.org/ Offtopic: lodgeit died a few days back :(
Re: [arch-general] wallpaper for 1920x1080 screens.
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 08:06:12PM +0200, Boris Le Ninivin wrote: I've uploaded a bunch of variations : http://borisln.deviantart.com/gallery/ , feel free to distribute/use them :) Nice, a color for everyone. Maybe, they should indeed be bundled into the archlinux-wallpaper package. I've licensed them under a CC BY SA license, so you can even sell them if you want :D (But I doubt it could earn you much money :P) Who would be cheap enough to make money off your effort, though there are many sick people out there.
[arch-general] qt applications gone black
Hey guys I am facing a strange issue. All qt applications have become black, making them impossible to use. Here's an example showing vlc and avidemux-qt https://imgur.com/a/PR5vH Anyone else facing this issue? The closest i found someone with a similar problem is: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/next-kde-4-8-2-regression-firefox-thunderbird-joined-the-all-blacks-942693/ But the guy is using kde, and i am using dwm + xf86-video-intel
Re: [arch-general] qt applications gone black
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 03:28:42PM +0700, Diep Pham Van wrote: I have same problem before, you must install libgnomeui and change GUI style in qtconfig. I had removed libgnomeui a year back, and everything was working fine in the meantime. Unfortunately libgnomeui fetches a lot of unnecessary gnome stuff, gvfs, udisks2 etc. Isn't there some other solution?
Re: [arch-general] qt applications gone black
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 11:31:08AM +0200, CodeVision wrote: On Wed, 9 May 2012 14:34:27 +0530 gt static.vor...@gmx.com wrote: I had removed libgnomeui a year back, and everything was working fine in the meantime. Unfortunately libgnomeui fetches a lot of unnecessary gnome stuff, gvfs, udisks2 etc. Isn't there some other solution? From your picture and description, the problem you have seems similar to the problem I had a while ago. If the error message you get when you run e.g. VLC from the command line is: QGtkStyle was unable to detect the current GTK+ theme. I reckon its the same problem. As far as I know, there's no real solution for it, just a few workarounds. I solved it by installing 'gconf' [1] which has a lot less dependencies than libgnomeui. If you are not running gnome, you might also have to run: gconftool-2 --set --type string /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_theme your_theme_name For more information you can look in this forum thread [2], where I also got this solution from. Hope it helps. [1] http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/gconf/ or http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/gconf/ [2] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=775685 Nope my problem was different. Thanks for your help, but i finally found a solution on the forums itself. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=93325 The last post by ecmel solves the problem for me. I had recently borrowed .Xresources colours from someone on the forums, which were like *.background: *.foreground: ... Changing them to urxvt.background, i.e., removing the wildcard solved the problem. Who would have thought that .Xresources would be accessed by qt, but apparently it is. Thanks to all for the help.
Re: [arch-general] procps dependency
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 05:59:04PM +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote: I am trying to build and burn the archboot iso file on my x86_64 Arch. *|[gabx@magnolia Desktop]$ sudo pacman -S archboot Password: resolving dependencies... warning: cannot resolve procps=3.2.8-4, a dependency of archboot :: The following package cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable dependencies: archboot Do you want to skip the above package for this upgrade? [y/N] n|* procps-ng 3.3.2-2 is installed on my box. ** From what I read and understand, Arch went recently from procps to procps-ng, so it is normal that my system doesn't have anymore the procps package listed as installed and I can safely ignore. Please can someone confirm? You should be fine. Though you should open a bug report against archboot, as it shouldn't depend on procps, but procps-ng instead.
Re: [arch-general] wget
On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 12:55:59PM +0530, Debashish Saha wrote: are the commands are different for archlinux and linuxmint? i dont know, if it is so sorry for disturbing you.can u say what is mailling list for linuxmint? It's not about commands. Archlinux is a different distribution than linux mint. This list mainly involves arch related discussions. As for linux mint mailing list: http://librelist.com/browser/linuxmint/ (it's not an official list) You will be better off using linux mint forums: http://forums.linuxmint.com/ PS: Just curious, how did you land on arch mailing list? Are you using arch too? Also, please learn to use search engines.
Re: [arch-general] PKGBUILD provides not handled correctly?
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 05:01:16PM -0300, Norbert Zeh wrote: Thanks for all your quick replies. Immediately after firing off this email, I thought it would be something like this, but for some reason I didn't bother to read the manpage :( Some would have considered this reason enough for a RTFM response. It's wonderful to see that these types of responses are very rare in the arch community. Again, thanks for your help. RTFM responses aren't rare in arch community. You were just lucky :P But, people admitting that they should have RTFM, as you did, are rare :)
Re: [arch-general] Screen locking problem in KDE
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 10:52:54AM +0300, Dmitry Korzhevin wrote: Hello guys, Please give me advice - how can i debug problem with screen locking in KDE? I don't find any similar problems in arch forums/mailing lists. This problem appeared after update. Standart Ctrl+Alt+L doesn't work, plasma applet (screen lock) doesn't work too. Does this command work? qdbus org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver /ScreenSaver Lock -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [arch-general] findutils and locate
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 08:22:03AM +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote: -rwxr-sr-x 1 root locate 39512 Mar 3 05:53 /usr/bin/locate it is running with the default as you can see this is getting a bit strange to say the least think the next is going to be uninstall and reinstall it see if that helps any incase some dep has not been picked up automatically , The thing is there are no complaints to be seen Remove the .db along with trying a re-install. -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [arch-general] findutils and locate
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 04:38:01PM +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote: Right my /etc/updatedb.conf is as follows # directories to exclude from the slocate database: PRUNEPATHS=/media /mnt /tmp /var/tmp /var/cache /var/lock /var/run /var/spool /home/pete/nas /home/pete/Movies /home/pete/Music /home/pete/nas1 # filesystems to exclude from the slocate database: PRUNEFS=afs auto autofs binfmt_misc cifs coda configfs cramfs debugfs devpts devtmpfs ftpfs iso9660 mqueue ncpfs nfs nfs4 proc ramfs securityfs shfs smbfs sshfs sysfs tmpfs udf usbfs vboxsf yet i get zero file finds for any file name that i know is definately on the system in a location that IS searchable Does /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db exist? If it does, then when was the last time it was accessed? -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [arch-general] fake archlinux list message
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 06:29:43PM +0300, George Nikolopoulos wrote: hi all, i received the attached message. I don't know much about email headers but it seems to have all the headers as if posted from arch linux servers. Furthermore the address gerolde.archlinux.org points to an irrelevant page. [...] It's indeed a spam message, though i didn't receive it, assuming it was sent to the list. Anyway, gerolde is the name of the main arch server. You can read about all archlinux servers here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Category:DeveloperWiki:Server_Configuration -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [arch-general] elinks is unverifiable
On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 10:43:20AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: Script started on Sun Apr 1 10:40:14 2012 [root@localhost ~]# exitpacman -Ss soundsexit[K[Kpacman -Sy elinks Apart from what Christoph said, never run pacman -Sy pkg. This can cause trouble, as the dependencies for the package won't be updated, if available. So run pacman -Syu separately first. -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [arch-general] mkisofs question
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 06:18:33PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: Can any options be used with mkisofs to tell it if an single image will have a size larger than 1 dvd can hold, make as many additional images as necessary so that everything will fit on more than a single dvd? From the mkisofs manpage: -split-output Split the output image into several files of approximately 1 GB. This isn't exactly what you are looking for, but close enough. -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [arch-general] Funny issue with bash-completion and __git_ps1
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:49:15AM +0200, Martti Kühne wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:05:48AM +0200, martin kalcher wrote: Hey hey After the last bash-completion and git update there is a funny issue with the Git Prompt [1]: __git_ps1 is not defined The bash-completion update moved most completion scripts to /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/ and sources them if needed. See line 1933 in: /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion __git_ps1 is defined in: /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/git So if you type 'git pulTAB' this file gets sourced and the error disappears. I worked around this by sourcing this file manually in my .bashrc My question is, where i should report this bug. Is it a git problem or a bash-completion problem. I think its a git issue, because __git_ps1 is no complete function and should be defined somewhere else... Or shall i shut my mouth and continue sourcing it in my .bashrc? you can go on sourcing the file in your .bashrc and report the issue upstream. although my personal opinion to the whole story is pacman -Rcs, since the problems with bash-completions are old, and the symptoms are recurring, in all different shapes, and the source code is a legendary mess. What would you recommend instead? I too face problems time and again with bash-completion and would like to get rid of it. Do you have some special settings in your .bashrc? -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [arch-general] Funny issue with bash-completion and __git_ps1
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 09:19:37AM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: On 03/28/2012 03:28 AM, gt wrote: What would you recommend instead? I too face problems time and again with bash-completion and would like to get rid of it. Do you have some special settings in your .bashrc? No, just get rid of it. Your local bash completion will continue to work just fine without the 'bash_completion' package. I have had nothing but strange prompt issues with the package so I just finally removed it completely. Now completion and prompts work normal again -- in all situations. Thanks i guess i'll remove it then. On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 04:19:45PM +0200, Martti Kühne wrote: AFAIK, the bash_completion script that is installed with the bash-completion package merely is a latch script where all other software's completion routines are sourced from '/etc/bash_completion.d'. You're free to source or not source whatever you want from that directory without the latch script installed, since it's your system/cpu time. The dependencies arising from that can be made flexible by wrapping the source with a test -f each time. That would leave you with a few additional lines in your ~/.bashrc or /etc/bash.bashrc, while keeping out the bloated mess that is bash_completion. See also, /etc/bash.bashrc line 23 Thanks for the explanation, i'll take a look. -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
[arch-general] fsck on each boot?
I recently added the fsck hook to mkinitcpio.conf after seeing it being recommended in the forums. I don't have a separate /usr though. Anyway, now after every boot i see: performing fsck on root-device It shows up clean, and happens in a flash of a second. So my question is that is the hook supposed to perform fsck everytime? Earlier (without the hook), it used to happen only on unclean shutdowns. -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [arch-general] aria2c left a mess on system
On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 08:57:48AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: I've now cleared it off, but what had happened was a download of an iso with a torrent file and afterwards the iso had a unique inode it couldn't be checked with md5sum because md5sum claimed it didn't exist. I didn't even try it with the asc file since md5sum didn't work. Also the file command couldn't find the iso file either. This was the case for both root and a user doing the checks and the file permissions were set to 640 for both the root and user accounts yet neither could check the file. I've had situations with aria2c where it has crashed and died with exceptions on this machine in the past too. After all of that aggravation, I cleared the whole mess off my system and am about to deep six aria2c for good measure. The original bittorrent is no better and in many ways worse so if I do anything with that type of download again I'll either have to find me a 3rd linux alternative that can run from the command line or just use free download manager on windows to get it done. You can try rtorrent, transmission, deluge, etc they are quite good. Also, if you are having problems with aria2 then report them to the developer. He is quick to fix them. ps: Please try to make use of paragraphs, it'll make your post more clear. -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [arch-general] wodim unuseable
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:01:08PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: That reminds me, I was going to re-add cdrtools to the repositories, but I forgot, because I never write CDs or DVDs anyway (and when I do, it works with what I have installed right now). If you rarely use it and if you only use very basic functionality, you may not run into problems that are visible to you ... if you are lucky. genisoimage creates nearly all ISO images with defects that may hit you in the future. genisoimage misses many important features needed for DVDs and BluRays wodim does not write BluRay at all and writing DVDs only works on a few cases. BTW: Linux-2.2 may also still work - do you really like to use it today? Wodim is code from 2004, it misses half of the development efforts seen in the original software. I know that growisofs uses mkisofs, but didn't know that the present version is 4+ years old. Anyway, i just removed dvd+rw-tools, and k3b whines about not finding growisofs in the PATH. What should i do? Joerg, out of curiosity, do you use the commandline version of your baby, or some frontend? @ Thomas, it would be great to have cdrtools in the repositories. -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [arch-general] wodim unuseable
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 01:01:35PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: gt static.vor...@gmx.com wrote: Anyway, i just removed dvd+rw-tools, and k3b whines about not finding growisofs in the PATH. What should i do? If you install cdrtools, this message should disappear. I do have cdrtools installed, and k3b does detect cdrecord, mkisofs, readcd etc. But still k3b says this on startup: Unable to find growisofs executable K3b uses growisofs to actually write DVDs. Without growisofs you will not be able to write DVDs. Make sure to install at least version 5.10. Solution: Install the dvd+rw-tools package. Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable K3b uses dvd+rw-format to format DVD-RWs and DVD+RWs. Solution: Install the dvd+rw-tools package. PS: I have been using cdrtools instead of cdrkit since many years ;) -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [arch-general] wodim unuseable
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:33:38AM -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: On 03/20/2012 10:30 AM, gt wrote: perhaps you also need dvd+rw-tools? That's the whole discussion of the thread. I did have dvd+rw-tools installed, but after Joerg insisted that they are not necessary, i removed them. And it seems the k3b warning is superficial, it works fine without dvd+rw-tools. -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [arch-general] wodim unuseable
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 03:50:30PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: gt static.vor...@gmx.com wrote: I do have cdrtools installed, and k3b does detect cdrecord, mkisofs, readcd etc. But still k3b says this on startup: Unable to find growisofs executable K3b uses growisofs to actually write DVDs. Without growisofs you will not be able to write DVDs. Make sure to install at least version 5.10. Solution: Install the dvd+rw-tools package. Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable K3b uses dvd+rw-format to format DVD-RWs and DVD+RWs. Solution: Install the dvd+rw-tools package. Do you use an old version of k3b? Do you use a modified version of k3b? an unmodified k3b prevers to write DVDs via cdrecord since several years. I am using the latest k3b from arch's repos. v2.0.2 But, i ignored the error and tried to write a DVD, and the burn went fine without growisofs. -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [arch-general] wodim unuseable
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:54:20AM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net wrote: Track01 on dvd's always comes up with unknown length when trying to burn a dvd with wodim. That's out of two different containers of dvd's too. These dvd's are single-sided so no danger of blue ray being used here. Fortunately I can do the burn with another system. Cdrecord introduced DVD support in February/March 1998, so there is 14 years of verified DVD support in cdrecord. wodim started with the cdrecord version from September 2004, removed the DVD support code and replaced it with something half baken. Since May 6th 2007, there was no development activity on wodim besides from typo-corrections. I recommend to use the actively maintained original cdrtools instead of the dead fork. Joerg, will you recommend cdrtools over growisofs for dvds? As apparently both mkisofs and growisofs do the same thing. -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [arch-general] partition mount, strange entry in log
On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 07:31:57AM +, Jason Steadman wrote: On 8 March 2012 07:28, gt static.vor...@gmx.com wrote: From the past few weeks, i get this in the log during boot: kernel: [8.165927] EXT4-fs (sdb1): mounting ext3 file system using the ext4 subsystem kernel: [8.194637] EXT4-fs (sdb1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null) Here's the relevant part of the fstab: UUID=-- /mnt/sdb1 ext3 auto,users,rw,exec,noatime 0 2 I understand that this isn't anything worrysome, but what exactly does this mean: using the ext4 subsytem -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org It means exactly what is says, Arch now uses ext4 to mount ext2/3 partitions. Is it something new in the kernel or something arch specific? Also, what does it mean to the end user? Are my ext3 partitions behaving like ext4 now? Is it something like this: http://v.gd/Gt8PhR -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [arch-general] partition mount, strange entry in log
- Original Message - From: Jason Steadman Sent: 03/08/12 02:40 PM To: General Discussion about Arch Linux Subject: Re: [arch-general] partition mount, strange entry in log On 8 March 2012 09:05, gt static.vor...@gmx.com wrote: Is it something new in the kernel or something arch specific? Also, what does it mean to the end user? Are my ext3 partitions behaving like ext4 now? Is it something like this: http://v.gd/Gt8PhR Explained here - https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/25341 Thanks, it's clear now.
[arch-general] partition mount, strange entry in log
From the past few weeks, i get this in the log during boot: kernel: [8.165927] EXT4-fs (sdb1): mounting ext3 file system using the ext4 subsystem kernel: [8.194637] EXT4-fs (sdb1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null) Here's the relevant part of the fstab: UUID=-- /mnt/sdb1 ext3 auto,users,rw,exec,noatime 0 2 I understand that this isn't anything worrysome, but what exactly does this mean: using the ext4 subsytem -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [arch-general] renaming files
On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 11:13:03PM +, pete wrote: Hi folks Bit sort of off topic but hopefully ok I have some 350 picture files with names along the lines of IMG_7127 EOS-1D Mark III copy.jpgi would like to rename them all to more like IMG_7127.jpg i have tried a few times tonight and cant get my head around it anyone got a script that can do it If you don't mind graphical tools, try metamorphose2, it's available in the aur, and is an extremely powerful renamer, and quite easy to use too. -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [arch-general] Building taskjuggler 2.4.3 form AUR fails
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:28:02AM +0100, Thorsten wrote: Hi List, on a freshly updated arch with a freshly pulled AUR I can't install taskjuggler (2.4). Taskjuggler3 can be installed, but I want to use Emacs orgmode's taskjuggler export, thats geared towards taskjuggler 2.4. Anybody with the same problem? - make[2]: Entering directory `/home/tj/abs/taskjuggler/src/taskjuggler-2.4.3/TestSuite' Testing in CSV-Reports ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. Testing in HTML-Reports ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. ... ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. Testing in Misc ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. ... ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. Testing in Scheduler Testing in Syntax Testing in TJX-Reports ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. Syntax error in XML file 'tjxreport-1-Export.tjx'. cmp: EOF on tjxreport-1-Export2.tjx gzip: tjxreport-1-Export2.tjx: unexpected end of file 1,1022d0 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 standalone=no? !DOCTYPE taskjuggler PUBLIC -//The TaskJuggler Project//DTD TaskJuggler 2.0//EN http://www.taskjuggler.org/dtds/TaskJuggler-2.0.dtd; taskjuggler project timezone=GMT timingResolution=3600 shortTimeFormat=%H:%M weekStartMonday=1 timeFormat=%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S %Z yearlyWorkingDays=260.714 dailyWorkingHours=8 version=1.0 id=prj name=tjxreport test start humanReadable=2003-01-01 00:00:00 GMT 1041379200/start end humanReadable=2003-04-01 00:00:00 GMT 1049155200/end now humanReadable=2003-02-01 00:00:00 GMT 1044057600/now currencyFormat fracDigits=0 fractionSep=. signPrefix=( thousandSep=, signSuffix=) / workingHours 2 errors detected! make[2]: *** [all-local] Fehler 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/tj/abs/taskjuggler/src/taskjuggler-2.4.3/TestSuite' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Fehler 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tj/abs/taskjuggler/src/taskjuggler-2.4.3' make: *** [all] Fehler 2 == FEHLER: Ein Fehler geschah in build(). Breche ab ... ~/abs/taskjuggler $ ls PKGBUILD pkg src taskjuggler-2.4.3.tar.bz2 ~/abs/taskjuggler $ sudo pacman -U taskjuggler-2.4.3.tar.bz2 loading packages... error: missing package metadata in taskjuggler-2.4.3.tar.bz2 error: 'taskjuggler-2.4.3.tar.bz2': invalid or corrupted package ~/abs/taskjuggler $ The package isn't being installed by pacman, because the compilation failed. What you are trying to install using pacman -U is the package source code. pacman operates on .tar.xz or .tar.gz files only anyway. You should investigate why the compilation is failing. -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [arch-general] /var/log/btmp empty
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:11:06PM -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote: I think FTMP_FILE is obsolete. Logging of failed login attempts is handled by pam. Try running faillog(8)... Also I am not sure if /var/log/btmp has to be kept at all. Thanks, i didn't know about faillog. Unfortunately, it doesn't behave exactly like lastb, it only displays the failed attempts after the last successful login. But something is better than nothing :) -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
[arch-general] /var/log/btmp empty
Hello folks My failed login attempts aren't being recorded, and lastb shows no output. The permissions are correct: -rw--- 1 root root 0 Nov 15 06:39 /var/log/btmp Reading a previous message on the mailing list, i tried setting FTMP_FILE /var/log/btmp in /etc/login.defs. But this gives the following error (right after typing the username on a tty): configuration error - unknown item 'FTMP_FILE' (notify administrator) So two questions: 1. Why isn't the option being recognised, even though it is present in the man page for login.defs? 2. How do i enable logging to /var/log/btmp? -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
[arch-general] Fw: Re: Waiting for UDev uevents to be processed [BUSY]
Well it would seem he still found it useful. But forgot to cc the mailing list. - Forwarded message from Rob Lewis rrl...@gmail.com - Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:20:20 -0500 From: Rob Lewis rrl...@gmail.com To: gt codere...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arch-general] Waiting for UDev uevents to be processed [BUSY] Thanks! That thread at least confirms that two others will the same laptop are having the same issue. As for what the problem is, not quite sure yet but I will try reverting to a older kernel. On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:50 PM, gt codere...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 07:45:54PM -0500, Rob Lewis wrote: I am running into an issue I have never really run into in the past with my current laptop. Upon installing arch linux I reboot and face the following issue which hangs forever during the bot process: Waiting for UDev uevents to be processed [BUSY] I have a Lenovo Thinkpad W520 with NVidia Optimus and I enabled NVidia Discrete mode in the BIOS. I cannot boot into my system after installation, however sometimes it will skip by this error and I will lose all keyboard input and cannot login as a result. My workaround for the moment is to put the BIOS into Optimus mode (Intel and NVidia cards are enabled) and use the Intel video driver. I have tried nomodeset during the boot process but no luck. Googling the problem i find most people get a timeout after 30 seconds to find out what is causing the problem, but my system hangs forever. Is anyone else running into this issue or experienced enough to help me find out what the problem is? I have been running Arch since August 2011 with no issues up until now. Any help is appreciated, -Rob Maybe this thread can help. Many people seem to have problems with udev recently. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=134012 -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org - End forwarded message -
Re: [arch-general] Cannot upgrade.
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:48:57PM +0530, Madhurya Kakati wrote: On 02/14/12 at 11:49pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote: The pacman upgrade didn't cause trouble here. When I run pacman -Syu the first time, only pacman was shown. Directly after installing it I run pacman -Syu again and there where 5 targets. # ntpdate ntp.favey.ch 14 Feb 23:34:30 # pacman -Syu :: Synchronizing package databases... core extra community multilib archaudio-production is up to date archaudio-preview is up to date kxstudio-free kxstudio-free is up to date kxstudio-non-fre kxstudio-non-free is up to date arch-fonts is up to date archaudio-nightly is up to date archaudio-experimental is up to date Dude, what are these extra repos for? Can you tell me how to include them in my pacman.conf? Thanks. Well if you want lesser headaches, avoid 3rd party repos. Read wonder's post here: http://archlinux.me/wonder/2012/02/13/how-to-increase-the-stability-of-your-system/ (especially the 3rd point) But if you still insist, here is a list: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unofficial_User_Repositories -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [arch-general] Waiting for UDev uevents to be processed [BUSY]
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 07:45:54PM -0500, Rob Lewis wrote: I am running into an issue I have never really run into in the past with my current laptop. Upon installing arch linux I reboot and face the following issue which hangs forever during the bot process: Waiting for UDev uevents to be processed [BUSY] I have a Lenovo Thinkpad W520 with NVidia Optimus and I enabled NVidia Discrete mode in the BIOS. I cannot boot into my system after installation, however sometimes it will skip by this error and I will lose all keyboard input and cannot login as a result. My workaround for the moment is to put the BIOS into Optimus mode (Intel and NVidia cards are enabled) and use the Intel video driver. I have tried nomodeset during the boot process but no luck. Googling the problem i find most people get a timeout after 30 seconds to find out what is causing the problem, but my system hangs forever. Is anyone else running into this issue or experienced enough to help me find out what the problem is? I have been running Arch since August 2011 with no issues up until now. Any help is appreciated, -Rob Maybe this thread can help. Many people seem to have problems with udev recently. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=134012 -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [arch-general] [mirrorlist] Remove ftp mirrors from the default list
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:06:49AM +0800, Abdul Halim Mat Ali wrote: I don't find download small files is slow especially when the mirror is at your country. Furthermore, my country namely Singapore only have one mirror and that one mirror using FTP. Arch-devs. Kindly do not delete FTP from the list. The mirrors list are user config and not everybody use the same mirror and it is up to us to use which mirror. So, I don't see a point on remove the ftp mirrors. Well i would like to point out that, you have indonesia, taiwan, japan servers near you. And they support http. Japan's jaist.ac.jp is one of the best servers i have tried. -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [arch-general] DPMS
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 09:59:44AM +, P Nikolic wrote: On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 10:54:15 Christoph Vigano wrote: On 02/09/2012 10:37 AM, P Nikolic wrote: snip So where can i put the xset command for it to work correctly every time you could always put settings like these into your $HOME/.xinitrc, that's where I have stored those settings. Hi Christoph I have tried in there it just gets ignored i know in the suse world i used to put it there but cant get it to behave on Arch which is a pity because Arch is far better in almost every other way .. How do you login? i.e., which login manager do you use? -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
Re: [arch-general] DPMS
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 02:13:57PM +, P Nikolic wrote: On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 16:11:05 gt wrote: How do you login? i.e., which login manager do you use? i use KDM I don't think that kdm uses xinitrc by default. You'll have to make it use xinitrc. It supports xsession i think. Maybe try symlinking ~/.xsession to ~/.xinitrc. -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org