Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [idea] global link database for all packages
James Rayner schrieb: There's some vague support, though I have no idea how well/if it still works. Nor is it documented well. btw, I've been meaning to contact you to work out some way to make autowifi and netcfg work well together. Haha, I have a very good idea on how to do it, but not the time to implement it right now. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [idea] global link database for all packages
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Thomas Bächlertho...@archlinux.org wrote: I collected it together from several (old) HOWTOs back in 2001 and there's a wiki page on Arch (originally written by your's truly) - sad that netcfg doesn't include support (or does it?). There's some vague support, though I have no idea how well/if it still works. Nor is it documented well. btw, I've been meaning to contact you to work out some way to make autowifi and netcfg work well together. James
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [idea] global link database for all packages
Damjan Georgievski schrieb: Now, rp-pppoe's /etc/ppp/plugins/rp-pppoe.so and ppp-2.4.4's /usr/lib/pppd/2.4.4/rp-pppoe.so are doing the same thing, only the rp-pppoe version should be a bit newer and better. I dont have a clear overview of what the differences are (the ppp one is an older fork of the rp-pppoe version), but I could make a diff and check for obvious things if needed. That's what I thought. My impression was that the ppp project is mostly dead, but its sources were imported into a git[1] last year and there was active development. Nothing was ever released though. Anyway, putting a plugin into /etc/ is stupid regardless of why it is being done. [1] http://git.ozlabs.org/?p=ppp.git;a=summary signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [idea] global link database for all packages
Thomas Bächler wrote: Allan McRae schrieb: For example: http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/pkgdyn/out/i686/core.badfhs.txt Where does that come from? It's not in any package I know of. rp-pppoe-3.10-1/files:etc/ppp/plugins/rp-pppoe.so That is stupid. ppp plugins are supposed to be in /usr/lib/pppd/$VERSION and the ppp package already contains the rp-pppoe plugin. Why does rp-pppoe install it again? Why do we even need rp-pppoe? There are an old open ticket for this: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13876 FS#13876 - [rp-pppoe] package: .so file in /etc -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [idea] global link database for all packages
Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi schrieb: Pierre Schmitz wrote: * Only extract files from /opt /lib /sbin /bin /usr/lib /usr/sbin /usr/bin This will be omit some ELF files that are outside these directories: For example: http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/pkgdyn/out/i686/core.badfhs.txt Where does that come from? It's not in any package I know of. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [idea] global link database for all packages
Thomas Bächler wrote: Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi schrieb: Pierre Schmitz wrote: * Only extract files from /opt /lib /sbin /bin /usr/lib /usr/sbin /usr/bin This will be omit some ELF files that are outside these directories: For example: http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/pkgdyn/out/i686/core.badfhs.txt Where does that come from? It's not in any package I know of. rp-pppoe-3.10-1/files:etc/ppp/plugins/rp-pppoe.so
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [idea] global link database for all packages
Allan McRae schrieb: For example: http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/pkgdyn/out/i686/core.badfhs.txt Where does that come from? It's not in any package I know of. rp-pppoe-3.10-1/files:etc/ppp/plugins/rp-pppoe.so That is stupid. ppp plugins are supposed to be in /usr/lib/pppd/$VERSION and the ppp package already contains the rp-pppoe plugin. Why does rp-pppoe install it again? Why do we even need rp-pppoe? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [idea] global link database for all packages
On Wed 01 Jul 2009 14:32 +0200, Thomas Bächler wrote: Allan McRae schrieb: For example: http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/pkgdyn/out/i686/core.badfhs.txt Where does that come from? It's not in any package I know of. rp-pppoe-3.10-1/files:etc/ppp/plugins/rp-pppoe.so That is stupid. ppp plugins are supposed to be in /usr/lib/pppd/$VERSION and the ppp package already contains the rp-pppoe plugin. Why does rp-pppoe install it again? Why do we even need rp-pppoe? Hahha. Maybe because of this: http://www.samba.org/ppp/features.html Some features of ppp include * works sometimes `man rp-pppoe` My design goals for this PPPoE client were as follows, in descending order of importance: o It must work. There's no documentation about pppoe in ppp either. rp-pppoe helps me make my ADSL connection easily.
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [idea] global link database for all packages
On Wed 01 Jul 2009 09:48 -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Thomas Bächlertho...@archlinux.org wrote: Allan McRae schrieb: For example: http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/pkgdyn/out/i686/core.badfhs.txt Where does that come from? It's not in any package I know of. rp-pppoe-3.10-1/files:etc/ppp/plugins/rp-pppoe.so That is stupid. ppp plugins are supposed to be in /usr/lib/pppd/$VERSION and the ppp package already contains the rp-pppoe plugin. Why does rp-pppoe install it again? Why do we even need rp-pppoe? Good question - does anyone actually use it? http://www.archlinux.de/?page=PackageStatistics Eh. 72% of pkgstats users do.
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [idea] global link database for all packages
Loui Chang wrote: On Wed 01 Jul 2009 09:48 -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Thomas Bächlertho...@archlinux.org wrote: Allan McRae schrieb: For example: http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/pkgdyn/out/i686/core.badfhs.txt Where does that come from? It's not in any package I know of. rp-pppoe-3.10-1/files:etc/ppp/plugins/rp-pppoe.so That is stupid. ppp plugins are supposed to be in /usr/lib/pppd/$VERSION and the ppp package already contains the rp-pppoe plugin. Why does rp-pppoe install it again? Why do we even need rp-pppoe? Good question - does anyone actually use it? http://www.archlinux.de/?page=PackageStatistics Eh. 72% of pkgstats users do. No, 28% know they don't want it even though it is in base. Slightly different... Allan
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [idea] global link database for all packages
Pierre Schmitz wrote: * Only extract files from /opt /lib /sbin /bin /usr/lib /usr/sbin /usr/bin This will be omit some ELF files that are outside these directories: For example: http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/pkgdyn/out/i686/core.badfhs.txt http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/pkgdyn/out/i686/extra.badfhs.txt http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/pkgdyn/out/i686/community.badfhs.txt -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [idea] global link database for all packages
On Sunday 28 June 2009 19:25:08 Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi wrote: This will be omit some ELF files that are outside these directories: For example: http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/pkgdyn/out/i686/core.badfhs.txt http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/pkgdyn/out/i686/extra.badfhs.txt http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/pkgdyn/out/i686/community.badfhs.txt Sure, but those packages are just broken. You cannot put binaries into /usr/share or even /etc. Doesn't namcap catch those? If not it should be implemented. -- Pierre Schmitz, http://users.archlinux.de/~pierre
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [idea] global link database for all packages
Pierre Schmitz wrote: On Sunday 28 June 2009 19:25:08 Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi wrote: This will be omit some ELF files that are outside these directories: For example: http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/pkgdyn/out/i686/core.badfhs.txt http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/pkgdyn/out/i686/extra.badfhs.txt http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/pkgdyn/out/i686/community.badfhs.txt Sure, but those packages are just broken. You cannot put binaries into /usr/share or even /etc. Doesn't namcap catch those? If not it should be implemented. The current namcap definitely does not. I haven't checked in git. A feature request probably needs files. Everything with a binary in /usr/share needs a bug report filed also. Allan
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [idea] global link database for all packages
Allan McRae wrote: Pierre Schmitz wrote: On Sunday 28 June 2009 19:25:08 Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi wrote: This will be omit some ELF files that are outside these directories: For example: http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/pkgdyn/out/i686/core.badfhs.txt http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/pkgdyn/out/i686/extra.badfhs.txt http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/pkgdyn/out/i686/community.badfhs.txt Sure, but those packages are just broken. You cannot put binaries into /usr/share or even /etc. Absolutelly, yes. Doesn't namcap catch those? If not it should be implemented. The current namcap definitely does not. I haven't checked in git. A feature request probably needs files. OK. Everything with a binary in /usr/share needs a bug report filed also. Allan OK, so I will start opening one bug report for each pkg don't complaint about this. -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [idea] global link database for all packages
Pierre Schmitz wrote: Hi, I just got an idea which might be worth to think about. Namcap is quite useful but due to its limitation of only seeing a certain pkg file at a time it cannot answer all questions. The idea is to create a database (similar to the file list we already create) which includes lists of files and to which they are linked. snip Hi, Some times ago I sended to the list this: http://github.com/djgera/pkgdyn For the database output and output usable data: http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/pkgdyn http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/pkgdyn/out/i686/core.the-BIG-dependency-family.sortbynrdeps.txt -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D
