Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Inappropriate bugtracker behavior
Excerpts from Emmanuel Benisty's message of 2010-11-16 12:19:16 +0100: > yeah, wrong list... > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Emmanuel Benisty wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:10 PM, RedShift wrote: > >> Someone (which shall remain nameless unless privately asked) on the > >> bugtracker has been demonstrating inappropriate behavior. This includes, > >> but > >> not limited to: > >> > >> * Insulting developers for not accepting certain bugs > >> * Insulting anyone who disagrees with him, sometimes subtle but definitely > >> there > > > > ban him, who cares? a random guy on the internets yelling at people > > doing stuff for free? seriously? trash his account, let him use > > another distro. > > reading the title I had hoped that the bugtracker called someone a dimwit or something.. too bad :/
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Inappropriate bugtracker behavior
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:53:36 +0700 > schrieb Emmanuel Benisty : > >> Please ask the guy the same question. > > I probably would if I knew who it was or which bugs are affected. So I > don't know if he is really just insulting - of course there are such > people - or if he has a reason to be angry. I had some reasons in the > past. It's a good thing to have strong opinions. It sucks to *insult* people, especially those involved in a community project.
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Inappropriate bugtracker behavior
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > On 11/16/2010 01:53 PM, Emmanuel Benisty wrote: >> >> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Heiko Baums >> wrote: >>> >>> Am Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:19:16 +0700 >>> schrieb Emmanuel Benisty: >>> > ban him, who cares? a random guy on the internets yelling at people > doing stuff for free? seriously? trash his account, let him use > another distro. >>> >>> Are you really sure that this is a good attitude and an appropriate >>> behaviour? >>> >> >> Please ask the guy the same question. > > OK. Lets stop this nonsense. What is true on the forums is nonsense on the bugtracker? > We, as developers and the admin for the bugtracker, can deal with this > without your opinions. Then you should keep this private.
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Inappropriate bugtracker behavior
Am Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:53:36 +0700 schrieb Emmanuel Benisty : > Please ask the guy the same question. I probably would if I knew who it was or which bugs are affected. So I don't know if he is really just insulting - of course there are such people - or if he has a reason to be angry. I had some reasons in the past. Heiko
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Inappropriate bugtracker behavior
On 11/16/2010 01:53 PM, Emmanuel Benisty wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:19:16 +0700 schrieb Emmanuel Benisty: ban him, who cares? a random guy on the internets yelling at people doing stuff for free? seriously? trash his account, let him use another distro. Are you really sure that this is a good attitude and an appropriate behaviour? Please ask the guy the same question. OK. Lets stop this nonsense. We, as developers and the admin for the bugtracker, can deal with this without your opinions. -- Ionuț
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Inappropriate bugtracker behavior
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:19:16 +0700 > schrieb Emmanuel Benisty : > >> > ban him, who cares? a random guy on the internets yelling at people >> > doing stuff for free? seriously? trash his account, let him use >> > another distro. > > Are you really sure that this is a good attitude and an appropriate > behaviour? > Please ask the guy the same question.
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Inappropriate bugtracker behavior
Am Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:19:16 +0700 schrieb Emmanuel Benisty : > > ban him, who cares? a random guy on the internets yelling at people > > doing stuff for free? seriously? trash his account, let him use > > another distro. Are you really sure that this is a good attitude and an appropriate behaviour? Heiko
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Inappropriate bugtracker behavior
yeah, wrong list... On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Emmanuel Benisty wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:10 PM, RedShift wrote: >> Someone (which shall remain nameless unless privately asked) on the >> bugtracker has been demonstrating inappropriate behavior. This includes, but >> not limited to: >> >> * Insulting developers for not accepting certain bugs >> * Insulting anyone who disagrees with him, sometimes subtle but definitely >> there > > ban him, who cares? a random guy on the internets yelling at people > doing stuff for free? seriously? trash his account, let him use > another distro. >
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Inappropriate bugtracker behavior
Am Tue, 16 Nov 2010 08:10:03 +0100 schrieb RedShift : > Someone (which shall remain nameless unless privately asked) on the > bugtracker has been demonstrating inappropriate behavior. This > includes, but not limited to: > > * Insulting developers for not accepting certain bugs > * Insulting anyone who disagrees with him, sometimes subtle but > definitely there > > This has occurred multiple times in the past as well (I looked it up). > > From my point of view, he clearly is not a developer. > > Any recommendations on how to proceed? I do not wish to continue this > issue on the bugtracker itself. I don't know about whom and which bug you're talking, so I don't want to say too much. But there have indeed been more than one bugs in the past (assigned to one certain developers) which have been closed at once as invalid even if they indeed have been reproducible bugs. And I was relative unfriendly told to give more informations about e.g. possibly affected drivers etc. which I already had given in the original bug report. In the meantime there was another developer who has closed a well known bug report and denied to reopen it with only an inexplicable reason. This bug is still a known upstream bug. Such an inappropriate bug handling happened four times in the meantime. So could this be the reason why the person who you're talking about is angry? Are those not accepted bugs really not downstream bugs? I already started a thread about the inappropriate behaviour resp. bad attitude of some - not all - developers in flyspray in the past. Just ignoring him is not the way to handle it unless you have talked to the person and know that he is just insulting without a reason. Heiko
