Re: [arch-general] [pacman-dev] pyqt packages confusion
On 08/05/11 14:01, kachelaqa wrote: On Sunday 08 May 2011 02:52:26 kachelaqa wrote: by "pyqt developers", do you mean phil thompson, the author/maintainer of pyqt? Yes. Also see https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/22391 and http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/pipermail/pyqt/2011-January/thread.html thanks for the links i assume the thread from the pyqt mailing-list is this one: http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/pipermail/pyqt/2011-January/029094.html that mainly discusses various sip issues, but i cannot see any discussion about compatibility regarding pyuic, pyrcc, etc for clarity, i have now asked a more specific question here: http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/pipermail/pyqt/2011-May/029791.html the maintainer of pyqt has now confirmed that pyuic is compatible between python 2 and 3. nevertheless, i still think it is an ugly solution to have python3 as a dependency of a python2 package. many users will have removed python3 from their systems, as there are currently relatively few other packages that depend on it.
Re: [arch-general] [pacman-dev] pyqt packages confusion
On Sunday 08 May 2011 02:52:26 kachelaqa wrote: by "pyqt developers", do you mean phil thompson, the author/maintainer of pyqt? Yes. Also see https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/22391 and http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/pipermail/pyqt/2011-January/thread.html thanks for the links i assume the thread from the pyqt mailing-list is this one: http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/pipermail/pyqt/2011-January/029094.html that mainly discusses various sip issues, but i cannot see any discussion about compatibility regarding pyuic, pyrcc, etc for clarity, i have now asked a more specific question here: http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/pipermail/pyqt/2011-May/029791.html
Re: [arch-general] [pacman-dev] pyqt packages confusion
On 8 May 2011 17:59, Andrea Scarpino wrote: > On Sunday 08 May 2011 11:06:14 Kwpolska wrote: >> Are you serious? Do you really want to get rid of python2? That's > Why are you trolling guys? I said "a day", not tomorrow. Why the python3 > version has to depend on python2, if we remove python2 in the year 2030? I believe what you meant is "one day", or more precisely, "one fine day in the future" :) Anyway, would it not be possible to provide a pyqt-common package instead of making one depend on the other? -- GPG/PGP ID: 8AADBB10
Re: [arch-general] [pacman-dev] pyqt packages confusion
On Sunday 08 May 2011 11:06:14 Kwpolska wrote: > Are you serious? Do you really want to get rid of python2? That's Why are you trolling guys? I said "a day", not tomorrow. Why the python3 version has to depend on python2, if we remove python2 in the year 2030? -- Andrea
Re: [arch-general] [pacman-dev] pyqt packages confusion
On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 02:15:51AM +0200, Andrea Scarpino wrote: > I changed this because we are going to remove python2 a day. Are you serious? Do you really want to get rid of python2? That's impossible. Python Wiki[1] says: > The downside of breaking backwards compatibility in 3.x is that > a lot of that [quality] software doesn't work on 3.x yet. [1]: http://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3 "Should I use Python 2 or Python 3 for my development activity?" -- Cheers, -- Kwpolska (http://kwpolska.co.cc) O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org pgpHua5SIWTis.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-general] [pacman-dev] pyqt packages confusion
On Sunday 08 May 2011 02:52:26 kachelaqa wrote: > by "pyqt developers", do you mean phil thompson, the author/maintainer > of pyqt? Yes. Also see https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/22391 and http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/pipermail/pyqt/2011-January/thread.html -- Andrea
Re: [arch-general] [pacman-dev] pyqt packages confusion
On Saturday 07 May 2011 15:35:24 kachelaqa wrote: > firstly: > > why does python2-pyqt now depend on pyqt (for python3)? why should it be > necessary to drag in python3 and pyqt(3) for a python2 package? In the previous packages the python3 version had the python2 version as its dependence; I changed this because we are going to remove python2 a day. > secondly: > > looking at the file lists, it appears that several critical files are > now missing from python2-pyqt, namely: > > /usr/bin/pyuic4 > /usr/bin/pylupdate4 > /usr/bin/pyrcc4 > /usr/lib/qt/plugins/designer/libpythonplugin.so > (and possibly a few others) > presumably, the intention is that those files will be provided by the > pyqt(3) package instead. which makes no sense to me, because they are > not guaranteed to be compatible. > > IMHO these two packages *must* be kept separate - it should be possible > to install each package completely independently, without any danger of > either one clobbering the files of the other. I, with the help of an user from the community, did a search and asked PyQt developers about this, and they say we can use those files for both versions of PyQt built with different python version. > (nb: it might also be worth noting here that the new python2-pyqt > package also breaks the python2-qscintilla package. bug report: > https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/24144) Fixed. Thanks. -- Andrea
