[arch-general] Re: Systemd : Analysis of reactions of Users

2012-07-27 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 27/07/12, Mike wrote:

> I'm aware of that, but that doesn't mean one can't fix them. Nobody
> said, that the code base of sysvinit shouldn't be modified.

It would have been fixed for a long time if it were easy enough. :-)

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Nicolas Sebrecht


[arch-general] Re: Systemd : Analysis of reactions of Users

2012-07-27 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 27/07/12, Mike wrote:

> Instead of fixing such problems we need something new that's broken too?

You have to know that fixing was tried more than once with various
approaches along time. Parallelism is one of the best-known of these
failed attempts. Smart logs, correct error reporting are other examples.

It's very hard to fix all the issues of init scripts. Some issues even
appeared to be nearly impossible to solve.

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Nicolas Sebrecht


[arch-general] Re: Systemd : Analysis of reactions of Users

2012-07-26 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 26/07/12, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 11:57 +0200, Dennis Herbrich wrote:
> 
> > By the way ...
> 
> ... is there the need to improve something that already works

As I've already said, it does NOT work. Systems based on init scripts
are BROKEN because some of them scripts won't give you any chance to
catch all the failures.

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Nicolas Sebrecht