Re: [arch-general] Cannot install shaman from AUR

2010-06-06 Thread Attila
At Sonntag, 6. Juni 2010 03:13 Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227) wrote:

> It's been discussed before and rejected. If you want to know reasons and
> logic, search the forums or the MLs. No sense in beating a dead horse.

In principle this is okay but the question is was this rejected before or after 
the support for splitted packages in pacman?

At example for this a GUI would be even better: pacman -Ss kdeplasma-addons -)

If there is a chance that shaman get stable enough to step to extra this would 
be very nice but it is not a problem if not.

See you, Attila



Re: [arch-general] Cannot install shaman from AUR

2010-06-05 Thread Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227)
On 06/06/10 at 06:30am, Madhurya Kakati wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Xavier Chantry  
> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:36 AM, xenof0nt  wrote:
> >>
> >> Sorry there is no other alternative. The only solution is Shaman2 but
> >> currently is in Alpha stage. That means it is highly unstable and dangerous
> >> for your system.
> >> Arch will never provide a graphical tool for pacman.
> >> So if you can't live with this, then change to another distro
> >>
> >
> > Never say never.
> > Just curious, where does that come from ?
> > Why couldn't a sufficiently motivated developer write a GUI frontend
> > to libalpm good enough to get it packaged ?
> > This actually happened with shaman, it was packaged in community by
> > the main makepkg developer, Allan !
> >
> 
> Yea. Whats wrong with a GUI frontend? People will use pacman or the
> frontend- whichever they prefer. I know arch's wants to keep it simple
> but providing a good frontend in the repos isnt a bad idea.
It's been discussed before and rejected. If you want to know reasons and
logic, search the forums or the MLs. No sense in beating a dead horse.
-- 


Re: [arch-general] Cannot install shaman from AUR

2010-06-05 Thread Madhurya Kakati
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Xavier Chantry  wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:36 AM, xenof0nt  wrote:
>>
>> Sorry there is no other alternative. The only solution is Shaman2 but
>> currently is in Alpha stage. That means it is highly unstable and dangerous
>> for your system.
>> Arch will never provide a graphical tool for pacman.
>> So if you can't live with this, then change to another distro
>>
>
> Never say never.
> Just curious, where does that come from ?
> Why couldn't a sufficiently motivated developer write a GUI frontend
> to libalpm good enough to get it packaged ?
> This actually happened with shaman, it was packaged in community by
> the main makepkg developer, Allan !
>

Yea. Whats wrong with a GUI frontend? People will use pacman or the
frontend- whichever they prefer. I know arch's wants to keep it simple
but providing a good frontend in the repos isnt a bad idea.


Re: [arch-general] Cannot install shaman from AUR

2010-06-05 Thread Loui Chang
On Sat 05 Jun 2010 23:05 +0200, Xavier Chantry wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:36 AM, xenof0nt  wrote:
> > Arch will never provide a graphical tool for pacman.
> > So if you can't live with this, then change to another distro
> 
> Never say never.
> Just curious, where does that come from ?
> Why couldn't a sufficiently motivated developer write a GUI frontend
> to libalpm good enough to get it packaged ?

At least it'll never be in core. Good enough for me!



Re: [arch-general] Cannot install shaman from AUR

2010-06-05 Thread Brendan Long
On 06/04/2010 11:36 PM, xenof0nt wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 08:24:41 +0300, Madhurya Kakati
>  wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 10:41 AM, xenof0nt  wrote:
>>> Shaman is deprecated. Just don't use it anymore.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 08:07:32 +0300, Madhurya Kakati
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,
 i am unable to install shaman from AUR via yaourt error is
 http://pastebin.com/hfG3zEB
>>>
>>
>> is there any other option? and please don't tell me to use pacman. I
>> do use it. Just want to try out a graphical frontend.
>
>
> Sorry there is no other alternative. The only solution is Shaman2 but
> currently is in Alpha stage. That means it is highly unstable and
> dangerous for your system.
> Arch will never provide a graphical tool for pacman.
> So if you can't live with this, then change to another distro

What about packagekit? It seemed fairly stable when I tried it (I
stopped because it doesn't display messages about packages but I don't
if shaman does either).


Re: [arch-general] Cannot install shaman from AUR

2010-06-05 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:36 AM, xenof0nt  wrote:
>
> Sorry there is no other alternative. The only solution is Shaman2 but
> currently is in Alpha stage. That means it is highly unstable and dangerous
> for your system.
> Arch will never provide a graphical tool for pacman.
> So if you can't live with this, then change to another distro
>

Never say never.
Just curious, where does that come from ?
Why couldn't a sufficiently motivated developer write a GUI frontend
to libalpm good enough to get it packaged ?
This actually happened with shaman, it was packaged in community by
the main makepkg developer, Allan !


Re: [arch-general] Cannot install shaman from AUR

2010-06-04 Thread xenof0nt
On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 08:24:41 +0300, Madhurya Kakati  
 wrote:



On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 10:41 AM, xenof0nt  wrote:

Shaman is deprecated. Just don't use it anymore.




On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 08:07:32 +0300, Madhurya Kakati  


wrote:


Hi,
i am unable to install shaman from AUR via yaourt error is
http://pastebin.com/hfG3zEB




is there any other option? and please don't tell me to use pacman. I
do use it. Just want to try out a graphical frontend.



Sorry there is no other alternative. The only solution is Shaman2 but  
currently is in Alpha stage. That means it is highly unstable and  
dangerous for your system.

Arch will never provide a graphical tool for pacman.
So if you can't live with this, then change to another distro


Re: [arch-general] Cannot install shaman from AUR

2010-06-04 Thread Allan McRae

On 05/06/10 15:28, "Jérôme M. Berger" wrote:

Madhurya Kakati wrote:

On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 10:41 AM, xenof0nt  wrote:

Shaman is deprecated. Just don't use it anymore.




On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 08:07:32 +0300, Madhurya Kakati
wrote:


Hi,
i am unable to install shaman from AUR via yaourt error is
http://pastebin.com/hfG3zEB


is there any other option? and please don't tell me to use pacman. I
do use it. Just want to try out a graphical frontend.


shaman2-svn...



Warning!  alpha software.  Not a god choice for managing your system...


Re: [arch-general] Cannot install shaman from AUR

2010-06-04 Thread Jérôme M. Berger
Madhurya Kakati wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 10:41 AM, xenof0nt  wrote:
>> Shaman is deprecated. Just don't use it anymore.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 08:07:32 +0300, Madhurya Kakati 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> i am unable to install shaman from AUR via yaourt error is
>>> http://pastebin.com/hfG3zEB
> 
> is there any other option? and please don't tell me to use pacman. I
> do use it. Just want to try out a graphical frontend.
> 
shaman2-svn...

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Re: [arch-general] Cannot install shaman from AUR

2010-06-04 Thread Madhurya Kakati
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 10:41 AM, xenof0nt  wrote:
> Shaman is deprecated. Just don't use it anymore.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 08:07:32 +0300, Madhurya Kakati 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> i am unable to install shaman from AUR via yaourt error is
>> http://pastebin.com/hfG3zEB
>

is there any other option? and please don't tell me to use pacman. I
do use it. Just want to try out a graphical frontend.


Re: [arch-general] Cannot install shaman from AUR

2010-06-04 Thread xenof0nt

Shaman is deprecated. Just don't use it anymore.




On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 08:07:32 +0300, Madhurya Kakati  
 wrote:



Hi,
i am unable to install shaman from AUR via yaourt error is
http://pastebin.com/hfG3zEB


[arch-general] Cannot install shaman from AUR

2010-06-04 Thread Madhurya Kakati
Hi,
i am unable to install shaman from AUR via yaourt error is
http://pastebin.com/hfG3zEBd
Thanks