[arch-general] Do I need HAL?
WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ? Not for X. You may still need it for other things... Allan Most notabaly KDE and Thunar and in gnome with gnome-power-manager to have some special keys support Hi, How can I know if I still need HAL? Best regards, Guillermo Leira
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On 06/21/2010 06:35 AM, Guillermo Leira wrote: WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ? Not for X. You may still need it for other things... Allan Most notabaly KDE and Thunar and in gnome with gnome-power-manager to have some special keys support Hi, How can I know if I still need HAL? Best regards, Guillermo Leira After an upgrade, it will remain on your system if you do a pacman -Qdt
Re: [arch-general] Do I need HAL?
On 21/06/10 20:35, Guillermo Leira wrote: WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ? Not for X. You may still need it for other things... Allan Most notabaly KDE and Thunar and in gnome with gnome-power-manager to have some special keys support Hi, How can I know if I still need HAL? run /etc/rc.d/hal stop and remove it from your DAEMONS array. If stuff breaks, you needed it. Allan
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On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:35:23 +0200 Guillermo Leira gle...@gleira.com wrote: WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ? Not for X. You may still need it for other things... Allan Most notabaly KDE and Thunar and in gnome with gnome-power-manager to have some special keys support Hi, How can I know if I still need HAL? Best regards, Guillermo Leira You still need it if you're using XFCE. Ananda signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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$ pacman -Qi hal Name : hal Version: 0.5.14-4 . Required By: gnome-vfs vlc . On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Ananda Samaddar ana...@samaddar.co.ukwrote: On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:35:23 +0200 Guillermo Leira gle...@gleira.com wrote: WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ? Not for X. You may still need it for other things... Allan Most notabaly KDE and Thunar and in gnome with gnome-power-manager to have some special keys support Hi, How can I know if I still need HAL? Best regards, Guillermo Leira You still need it if you're using XFCE. Ananda -- Arch Linuxer, Pythoner, Geek -- Blog: http://apt-blog.net
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On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 06:46:13AM -0400, Matthew Monaco wrote: How can I know if I still need HAL? [...] After an upgrade, it will remain on your system if you do a pacman -Qdt ... which will, however, only work if hal hasn't been installed explicitly and will also disregard optdeps. If you're not sure whether to remove hal or net, it's best to check packages for hal optdeps and disable hal for a while (remove it from the DAEMONS line in your /etc/rc.conf). If everything still works as expected you can most likely remove it.
Re: [arch-general] Do I need HAL?
Im not 100% sure if KDE will work whit out hall, but KDE doesent use hal directly instead it uses the Solid framework of KDE. Solid isint dependant of one spesific bacend, but its like phonon so you can have multiple differend back ends whit it. i do not have any Idea of the state of differend backebnd, mayby some one whit more knowelege could provide additional information.
Re: [arch-general] Do I need HAL?
How can I know if I still need HAL? run /etc/rc.d/hal stop and remove it from your DAEMONS array. If stuff breaks, you needed it. Allan Thank you very much to all. :-) I'll have to mix all the answers: I have systems with XFCE and GNOME, physical and virtual... I'll check dependencies and I'll also try to remove hal from daemons array. Best Regards, Guillermo Leira
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On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Ananda Samaddar ana...@samaddar.co.ukwrote: On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:35:23 +0200 Guillermo Leira gle...@gleira.com wrote: WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ? Not for X. You may still need it for other things... Allan Most notabaly KDE and Thunar and in gnome with gnome-power-manager to have some special keys support Hi, How can I know if I still need HAL? Best regards, Guillermo Leira You still need it if you're using XFCE. Ananda that's because Thunar and Exo still use hal
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Matthew Monaco wrote: On 06/21/2010 06:35 AM, Guillermo Leira wrote: Hi, How can I know if I still need HAL? Best regards, Guillermo Leira After an upgrade, it will remain on your system if you do a pacman -Qdt According to that rule, I don't need xorg-server !??? Some packages are missing a dep here, I think... Jerome -- mailto:jeber...@free.fr http://jeberger.free.fr Jabber: jeber...@jabber.fr signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 09:21:39PM +0200, Jérôme M. Berger wrote: After an upgrade, it will remain on your system if you do a pacman -Qdt According to that rule, I don't need xorg-server !??? Some packages are missing a dep here, I think... That's correct. Only few packages actually depend on xorg-server (blackbox, enter, grass, hacburn, lwm, nvidia-utils, perl-x11-protocol, windowlab and xkbsel). As a workaround you can either mark xorg-server as installed explicitly by uninstalling/reinstalling the package or by using `pacman -D --asexplicit` (the latter only works with pacman=3.4.0) or create a meta package with xorg-server as dependency.
