Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Dario
Hi!

In data lunedì 20 luglio 2009 06:48:00, Tim Gelter ha scritto:
 Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new
 window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart
 your system.

Mmm I remember something like this happening on Windows (*cough*) machines at 
school. The solution was to clear the hidden Application Data (or what is 
called) folder under Documents and Settings. Here probably is something like a 
lock file, I think.

Ciao!

Carotinho
Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale!
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Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Damien Churchill
2009/7/20 Dario carotin...@yahoo.it:
 Hi!

 In data lunedì 20 luglio 2009 06:48:00, Tim Gelter ha scritto:
 Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new
 window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart
 your system.

 Mmm I remember something like this happening on Windows (*cough*) machines at
 school. The solution was to clear the hidden Application Data (or what is
 called) folder under Documents and Settings. Here probably is something like a
 lock file, I think.

 Ciao!

 Carotinho
 Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale!
  http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com




In ~/.config/mozilla/firefox/[profile] there will be 2 files, lock
and .parent_lock that need to be removed, at least those are the
offending 2 when this has happened to me.


Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Sascha Siegel

Thank you! This works fine!

Greetings :)

Am Jul 20, 2009 um 9:45 AM schrieb Damien Churchill:


2009/7/20 Dario carotin...@yahoo.it:

Hi!

In data lunedì 20 luglio 2009 06:48:00, Tim Gelter ha scritto:

Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new
window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or  
restart

your system.


Mmm I remember something like this happening on Windows (*cough*)  
machines at
school. The solution was to clear the hidden Application Data (or  
what is
called) folder under Documents and Settings. Here probably is  
something like a

lock file, I think.

Ciao!

Carotinho
Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale!
 http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com





In ~/.config/mozilla/firefox/[profile] there will be 2 files, lock
and .parent_lock that need to be removed, at least those are the
offending 2 when this has happened to me.




Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Tim Gelter
Damien Churchill wrote:
 2009/7/20 Dario carotin...@yahoo.it:
 Hi!

 In data lunedì 20 luglio 2009 06:48:00, Tim Gelter ha scritto:
 Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new
 window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart
 your system.
 Mmm I remember something like this happening on Windows (*cough*) machines at
 school. The solution was to clear the hidden Application Data (or what is
 called) folder under Documents and Settings. Here probably is something like 
 a
 lock file, I think.

 Ciao!

 Carotinho
 Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale!
  http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com


 
 
 In ~/.config/mozilla/firefox/[profile] there will be 2 files, lock
 and .parent_lock that need to be removed, at least those are the
 offending 2 when this has happened to me.
In my case, this isn't a lock file issue. As I explained in my email
that triggered this thread, the firefox process does in fact continue
running after I attempt to close firefox. It'll run (consuming very
little resources) for as long as it takes (minutes, hours, whatever) for
me to decide to launch firefox again. At this point, I must kill the
existing firefox process before launching firefox once more. Again, this
isn't a lock file issue in my case.



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Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Tim Gelter
Andrei Thorp wrote:
 Excerpts from Tim Gelter's message of Mon Jul 20 10:48:54 -0400 2009:
 Damien Churchill wrote:
 2009/7/20 Dario carotin...@yahoo.it:
 Hi!

 In data lunedì 20 luglio 2009 06:48:00, Tim Gelter ha scritto:
 Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new
 window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart
 your system.
 Mmm I remember something like this happening on Windows (*cough*) machines 
 at
 school. The solution was to clear the hidden Application Data (or what is
 called) folder under Documents and Settings. Here probably is something 
 like a
 lock file, I think.

 Ciao!

 Carotinho
 Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale!
  http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com



 In ~/.config/mozilla/firefox/[profile] there will be 2 files, lock
 and .parent_lock that need to be removed, at least those are the
 offending 2 when this has happened to me.
 In my case, this isn't a lock file issue. As I explained in my email
 that triggered this thread, the firefox process does in fact continue
 running after I attempt to close firefox. It'll run (consuming very
 little resources) for as long as it takes (minutes, hours, whatever) for
 me to decide to launch firefox again. At this point, I must kill the
 existing firefox process before launching firefox once more. Again, this
 isn't a lock file issue in my case.
 
 I don't know what you issue is (though I don't find Firefox good in
 general), but I can provide you a way to automatically kill Firefox on
 firefox exit if you like...
 
 (just a wrapper shell script/alias)
I appreciate the offer, but it'd be easy enough to do something like:
alias firefox=killall firefox  firefox
What I'm looking for is an answer to why Firefox has this issue on arch,
but not on other mainstream distros. Or am I really the only user
experiencing this issue? (other than the couple of guys who responded
saying that deleting a lock file or two solved the issue for them)



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Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Dan Vratil
On Monday 20 July 2009 17:18:38 Tim Gelter wrote:
 Andrei Thorp wrote:
  Excerpts from Tim Gelter's message of Mon Jul 20 10:48:54 -0400 2009:
  Damien Churchill wrote:
  2009/7/20 Dario carotin...@yahoo.it:
  Hi!
 
  In data lunedì 20 luglio 2009 06:48:00, Tim Gelter ha scritto:
  Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new
  window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart
  your system.
 
  Mmm I remember something like this happening on Windows (*cough*)
  machines at school. The solution was to clear the hidden Application
  Data (or what is called) folder under Documents and Settings. Here
  probably is something like a lock file, I think.
 
  Ciao!
 
  Carotinho
  Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale!
   http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com
 
  In ~/.config/mozilla/firefox/[profile] there will be 2 files, lock
  and .parent_lock that need to be removed, at least those are the
  offending 2 when this has happened to me.
 
  In my case, this isn't a lock file issue. As I explained in my email
  that triggered this thread, the firefox process does in fact continue
  running after I attempt to close firefox. It'll run (consuming very
  little resources) for as long as it takes (minutes, hours, whatever) for
  me to decide to launch firefox again. At this point, I must kill the
  existing firefox process before launching firefox once more. Again, this
  isn't a lock file issue in my case.
 
  I don't know what you issue is (though I don't find Firefox good in
  general), but I can provide you a way to automatically kill Firefox on
  firefox exit if you like...
 
  (just a wrapper shell script/alias)

 I appreciate the offer, but it'd be easy enough to do something like:
 alias firefox=killall firefox  firefox
 What I'm looking for is an answer to why Firefox has this issue on arch,
 but not on other mainstream distros. Or am I really the only user
 experiencing this issue? (other than the couple of guys who responded
 saying that deleting a lock file or two solved the issue for them)

I experience this troubles too, no lock files, just process running even after 
closing FF's main window.
I have Arch64, FF 3.5.1

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Dan Vrátil
vra...@progdansoft.com
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Jabber prog...@jabber.cz
Tel. +420 732 326 870
http://www.progdan.homelinux.net


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Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Andrei Thorp
Excerpts from Tim Gelter's message of Mon Jul 20 11:18:38 -0400 2009:
 Andrei Thorp wrote:
  Excerpts from Tim Gelter's message of Mon Jul 20 10:48:54 -0400 2009:
  Damien Churchill wrote:
  2009/7/20 Dario carotin...@yahoo.it:
  Hi!
 
  In data lunedì 20 luglio 2009 06:48:00, Tim Gelter ha scritto:
  Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new
  window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart
  your system.
  Mmm I remember something like this happening on Windows (*cough*) 
  machines at
  school. The solution was to clear the hidden Application Data (or what is
  called) folder under Documents and Settings. Here probably is something 
  like a
  lock file, I think.
 
  Ciao!
 
  Carotinho
  Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale!
   http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com
 
 
 
  In ~/.config/mozilla/firefox/[profile] there will be 2 files, lock
  and .parent_lock that need to be removed, at least those are the
  offending 2 when this has happened to me.
  In my case, this isn't a lock file issue. As I explained in my email
  that triggered this thread, the firefox process does in fact continue
  running after I attempt to close firefox. It'll run (consuming very
  little resources) for as long as it takes (minutes, hours, whatever) for
  me to decide to launch firefox again. At this point, I must kill the
  existing firefox process before launching firefox once more. Again, this
  isn't a lock file issue in my case.
  
  I don't know what you issue is (though I don't find Firefox good in
  general), but I can provide you a way to automatically kill Firefox on
  firefox exit if you like...
  
  (just a wrapper shell script/alias)
 I appreciate the offer, but it'd be easy enough to do something like:
 alias firefox=killall firefox  firefox
 What I'm looking for is an answer to why Firefox has this issue on arch,
 but not on other mainstream distros. Or am I really the only user
 experiencing this issue? (other than the couple of guys who responded
 saying that deleting a lock file or two solved the issue for them)

Yeah, I figured you'd know how to do this. I can't speak for everyone,
but I have no such issues like this with Firefox personally, I'm sorry
to say.
-- 
Andrei Thorp, Developer: Xandros Corp. (http://www.xandros.com)


Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Tim Gelter
Andrei Thorp wrote:
 Excerpts from Tim Gelter's message of Mon Jul 20 11:18:38 -0400 2009:
 Andrei Thorp wrote:
 Excerpts from Tim Gelter's message of Mon Jul 20 10:48:54 -0400 2009:
 Damien Churchill wrote:
 2009/7/20 Dario carotin...@yahoo.it:
 Hi!

 In data lunedì 20 luglio 2009 06:48:00, Tim Gelter ha scritto:
 Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new
 window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart
 your system.
 Mmm I remember something like this happening on Windows (*cough*) 
 machines at
 school. The solution was to clear the hidden Application Data (or what is
 called) folder under Documents and Settings. Here probably is something 
 like a
 lock file, I think.

 Ciao!

 Carotinho
 Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale!
  http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com


 In ~/.config/mozilla/firefox/[profile] there will be 2 files, lock
 and .parent_lock that need to be removed, at least those are the
 offending 2 when this has happened to me.
 In my case, this isn't a lock file issue. As I explained in my email
 that triggered this thread, the firefox process does in fact continue
 running after I attempt to close firefox. It'll run (consuming very
 little resources) for as long as it takes (minutes, hours, whatever) for
 me to decide to launch firefox again. At this point, I must kill the
 existing firefox process before launching firefox once more. Again, this
 isn't a lock file issue in my case.
 I don't know what you issue is (though I don't find Firefox good in
 general), but I can provide you a way to automatically kill Firefox on
 firefox exit if you like...

 (just a wrapper shell script/alias)
 I appreciate the offer, but it'd be easy enough to do something like:
 alias firefox=killall firefox  firefox
 What I'm looking for is an answer to why Firefox has this issue on arch,
 but not on other mainstream distros. Or am I really the only user
 experiencing this issue? (other than the couple of guys who responded
 saying that deleting a lock file or two solved the issue for them)
 
 Yeah, I figured you'd know how to do this. I can't speak for everyone,
 but I have no such issues like this with Firefox personally, I'm sorry
 to say.

To whomever might have insight into what's happening, here is what
happens if I attach to the running firefox process after closing
firefox. I can also attach a trace of firefox from the beginning of
operation if that would help. If this is better meant to be included as
a bug report, I can certainly do that but I fear it'll be rejected as
works for me by a developer as it seems it only affects some of us.
#  ps -ef | grep -i firefox
tgelter   4688  4329  2 08:40 ?00:01:23 /usr/bin/firefox
root ~ #  strace -p 4688
Process 4688 attached - interrupt to quit
futex(0x7fea3538c0d0, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 2, NULL

^C unfinished ...
Process 4688 detached



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Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Octavian Florea

Tim Gelter wrote:

I appreciate the offer, but it'd be easy enough to do something like:
alias firefox=killall firefox  firefox
What I'm looking for is an answer to why Firefox has this issue on arch,
but not on other mainstream distros. Or am I really the only user
experiencing this issue? (other than the couple of guys who responded
saying that deleting a lock file or two solved the issue for them)
I experienced the same issues (in Kubuntu, though) when using 
gtk-qt-engine. I switched to qtcurve and firefox closed normally.


Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Tim Gelter
Octavian Florea wrote:
 Tim Gelter wrote:
 I appreciate the offer, but it'd be easy enough to do something like:
 alias firefox=killall firefox  firefox
 What I'm looking for is an answer to why Firefox has this issue on arch,
 but not on other mainstream distros. Or am I really the only user
 experiencing this issue? (other than the couple of guys who responded
 saying that deleting a lock file or two solved the issue for them)
 I experienced the same issues (in Kubuntu, though) when using
 gtk-qt-engine. I switched to qtcurve and firefox closed normally.
interesting. I too am using gtk-qt-engine. I'll get rid of it to see if
that helps. For what it's worth, rather than using qtcurve, I'm going to
use gtk-kde4-oxygen-theme instead.



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Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Tim Gelter
Tim Gelter wrote:
 Octavian Florea wrote:
 Tim Gelter wrote:
 I appreciate the offer, but it'd be easy enough to do something like:
 alias firefox=killall firefox  firefox
 What I'm looking for is an answer to why Firefox has this issue on arch,
 but not on other mainstream distros. Or am I really the only user
 experiencing this issue? (other than the couple of guys who responded
 saying that deleting a lock file or two solved the issue for them)
 I experienced the same issues (in Kubuntu, though) when using
 gtk-qt-engine. I switched to qtcurve and firefox closed normally.
 interesting. I too am using gtk-qt-engine. I'll get rid of it to see if
 that helps. For what it's worth, rather than using qtcurve, I'm going to
 use gtk-kde4-oxygen-theme instead.
 
Well, it appears that Octavian tracked down the issue to gtk-qt-engine.
I'm not having trouble anymore since removing it. The question still
remains then, why does gtk-qt-engine cause trouble on Arch and not on
Ubuntu/Fedora? I suppose that's a question I'll have to bring up with
the kdemod developers. Thank you all for your help!
-Tim



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[arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-19 Thread Tim Gelter
Hello listmates,

I'm hoping someone can shed some light on what's going on with Firefox.
While running arch (not ubuntu 9.04/fedora 11 which I also have
installed on the same laptop), I run into the following scenario nearly
every time I attempt to launch Firefox.

Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new
window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart
your system.
Sure enough, I'm not being lied to:
$  ps -ef | grep firefox
tgelter  10871  4318  2 22:30 ?00:00:02 /usr/bin/firefox
$  killall firefox  firefox
and I'm in business.

The thing is, it doesn't matter how I shut down Firefox (click the X,
file-quit, ctrl+w closing each tab until the last takes down Firefox),
I always end up in the same situation. I went to #archlinux on freenode
to talk about the issue a while back (this issue has been plaguing me
for weeks) and was told to try disabling extensions/themes, creating a
new profile and using that, pacman -Rsn firefox  pacman -Sy
firefoxing, I even got so fed up that I did a fresh install on a new
partition and tried again. Nothing has worked, at all. Following is my
info, I really doubt I'm the first person to run into this so please,
can anyone help?

arch x86_64 on a Lenovo T61 laptop (nvidia video card w/ proprietary driver)
x86_64 version of Firefox, x86_64 versions of jre/flash installed (this
is a must)
I run a kde 4.2.4 desktop installed from kdemod.
$  pacman -Sl | awk '{print $1}' | sort | uniq -c
   1900 community
175 core
   1983 extra
390 kdemod-core
 82 kdemod-extragear
 62 kdemod-playground
As you can see above, I don't have any testing/unstable packages
installed though there are some from extra  kdemod-playground.

If you need any other info, let me know. Remember this problem only
happens under arch, I have the same usage patterns and package
selections under Fedora/Ubuntu as far as I know.



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Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-19 Thread Raeven K. Bathory
hmm, i could only trigger it once and when i attached to the process with
strace i saw it hung on EAGAIN
i quit the browser while watching a youtube video which sort of aligns with
the EAGAIN error