Re: [arch-general] Fwd: Notebook freeze and slow when copy big files to external usb

2013-12-05 Thread XeCycle
Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com writes:

 Hi, I when I make a copy of a large file to a 2GB or 8GB usb 3.0
 external hard drive, I notice that arch remains slow, frozen ... He
 struggles to open windows are minimized. I have the kernel:

 3.12.2-1-ARCH

 Update the whole system to the last. Can you think because it can be?

 I also went from the 3.11 kernel

 However, debian, ubuntu, opensuse me not pass this ...

 It's happened to someone else?

 Thanks for everything.

BTW what is the filesystem?  I experienced similar problems on an
internal disk, of which the filesystem is NTFS.  NTFS-3g seems to
consume too much CPU in the case of very large writes, and that
caused me a hang.

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Re: [arch-general] Fwd: Notebook freeze and slow when copy big files to external usb

2013-12-05 Thread André Vitor
Try:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_Storage_Devices#Poor_copy_performance_to_USB_pendrive
Other possibility is a different kernel scheduler, more aware of disk load
and desktop responsiveness, like
linux-ckhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/linux-ck
.


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 8:01 AM, XeCycle xecy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com writes:

  Hi, I when I make a copy of a large file to a 2GB or 8GB usb 3.0
  external hard drive, I notice that arch remains slow, frozen ... He
  struggles to open windows are minimized. I have the kernel:
 
  3.12.2-1-ARCH
 
  Update the whole system to the last. Can you think because it can be?
 
  I also went from the 3.11 kernel
 
  However, debian, ubuntu, opensuse me not pass this ...
 
  It's happened to someone else?
 
  Thanks for everything.

 BTW what is the filesystem?  I experienced similar problems on an
 internal disk, of which the filesystem is NTFS.  NTFS-3g seems to
 consume too much CPU in the case of very large writes, and that
 caused me a hang.

 --
 Carl Lei (XeCycle)
 Department of Physics and Astronomy, SJTU
 OpenPGP public key: 7795E591




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Re: [arch-general] Fwd: Notebook freeze and slow when copy big files to external usb

2013-12-05 Thread Lukas Jirkovsky
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, I when I make a copy of a large file to a 2GB or 8GB usb 3.0
 external hard drive, I notice that arch remains slow, frozen ... He
 struggles to open windows are minimized. I have the kernel:

Take a look at this article on LWN:
https://lwn.net/Articles/572911/

In short: it may be fixed by changing
/proc/sys/vm/dirty_background_ratio of even better
/proc/sys/vm/dirty_background_bytes to some reasonable small value.

Lukas


Re: [arch-general] Fwd: Notebook freeze and slow when copy big files to external usb

2013-12-05 Thread Flexo Rodriguez
On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 12:33:38PM +0800, BlissSam wrote:
 在 2013-12-4,19:08,Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com 写道:
 
  Hi, I when I make a copy of a large file to a 2GB or 8GB usb 3.0
  external hard drive, I notice that arch remains slow, frozen ... He
  struggles to open windows are minimized. I have the kernel:
  
  3.12.2-1-ARCH
  
  Update the whole system to the last. Can you think because it can be?
  
  I also went from the 3.11 kernel
  
  However, debian, ubuntu, opensuse me not pass this ...
  
  It's happened to someone else?
  
  Thanks for everything.
 
 
 I experience this as well. No matter copying to an external drive or internal 
 HDD. I experience very terrible freeze.
 
 Last time when I was copying big files, I locked the screen on GNOME and went 
 out. When I came back and found the copy was still in process since the LED 
 of my HDD is flashing. I typed my password and waited nearly 3 minutes until 
 it stopped freezing and unlocked my screen!
This isn't a) the same as described above and b) not a kernelbug. It's simply 
the
combination of (slow) hdd, usb and the scheduler. Processes like your gnome and
other os-stuff are sleeping while higher-priority processes come in. But the
biggest problem will be that your internal-drive + usb are blocking the bus and
while writing and reading big files the access time for other processes can be
very slow (your hdd is at max. usage rate).

 
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 Best regards,
 StarBrilliant


[arch-general] Fwd: Notebook freeze and slow when copy big files to external usb

2013-12-04 Thread Maykel Franco
Hi, I when I make a copy of a large file to a 2GB or 8GB usb 3.0
external hard drive, I notice that arch remains slow, frozen ... He
struggles to open windows are minimized. I have the kernel:

3.12.2-1-ARCH

Update the whole system to the last. Can you think because it can be?

I also went from the 3.11 kernel

However, debian, ubuntu, opensuse me not pass this ...

It's happened to someone else?

Thanks for everything.


Re: [arch-general] Fwd: Notebook freeze and slow when copy big files to external usb

2013-12-04 Thread Jakub Klinkovský
On 04.12.13 at 12:08, Maykel Franco wrote:
 Hi, I when I make a copy of a large file to a 2GB or 8GB usb 3.0
 external hard drive, I notice that arch remains slow, frozen ... He
 struggles to open windows are minimized. I have the kernel:
 
 3.12.2-1-ARCH
 
 Update the whole system to the last. Can you think because it can be?
 
 I also went from the 3.11 kernel
 
 However, debian, ubuntu, opensuse me not pass this ...
 
 It's happened to someone else?
 
 Thanks for everything.

See ArchWiki:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Maximizing_Performance#Tuning_kernel_parameters

Even USB 3 is slow compared to RAM...

See also this article on LWN for more information:
http://lwn.net/Articles/572911/


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Re: [arch-general] Fwd: Notebook freeze and slow when copy big files to external usb

2013-12-04 Thread BlissSam
在 2013-12-4,19:08,Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com 写道:

 Hi, I when I make a copy of a large file to a 2GB or 8GB usb 3.0
 external hard drive, I notice that arch remains slow, frozen ... He
 struggles to open windows are minimized. I have the kernel:
 
 3.12.2-1-ARCH
 
 Update the whole system to the last. Can you think because it can be?
 
 I also went from the 3.11 kernel
 
 However, debian, ubuntu, opensuse me not pass this ...
 
 It's happened to someone else?
 
 Thanks for everything.


I experience this as well. No matter copying to an external drive or internal 
HDD. I experience very terrible freeze.

Last time when I was copying big files, I locked the screen on GNOME and went 
out. When I came back and found the copy was still in process since the LED of 
my HDD is flashing. I typed my password and waited nearly 3 minutes until it 
stopped freezing and unlocked my screen!

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Best regards,
StarBrilliant

Re: [arch-general] Fwd: Notebook freeze and slow when copy big files to external usb

2013-12-04 Thread Kirill Churin
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, I when I make a copy of a large file to a 2GB or 8GB usb 3.0
 external hard drive, I notice that arch remains slow, frozen ... He
 struggles to open windows are minimized. I have the kernel:

 3.12.2-1-ARCH

 Update the whole system to the last. Can you think because it can be?

 I also went from the 3.11 kernel

 However, debian, ubuntu, opensuse me not pass this ...

 It's happened to someone else?

 Thanks for everything.

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12309

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