Re: [arch-general] GDM Locked - is Gnome locked

2010-11-02 Thread Guillermo Leira
> -Mensaje original-
> De: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org [mailto:arch-general-
> boun...@archlinux.org] En nombre de Guillermo Leira
> Enviado el: sábado, 30 de octubre de 2010 16:03
> Para: 'General Discussion about Arch Linux'
> Asunto: Re: [arch-general] GDM Locked - is Gnome locked
> 
> > > On 06:51 Tue 19 Oct , Guillermo Leira wrote:
> > > > > After the last Pacman -Syu, I can't login with gdm. As soon as I 
> > > > > click on my
> > > > > username, the system seems to freeze... Although not completely: I 
> > > > > can ping
> > > > > from other computer, but I can't ssh.
> > > > >
> > > > > Before I click on the username, the "switch off" icon at the right 
> > > > > down corner
> > > > > works. Once I click on the username, nothing else works, and I 
> > > > > neither can
> > > > > ctrl-alt-F1 to the console...
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions/questions?
> > > >
> > > > I have removed GDM and installed SLIM. Now I can login, but the screen
> > > shows nothing... And if I try to CTRL-ALT-F1 to the console, the system
> > > locks again. It is not a GDM problem.
> > > >
> > > > If I run startx from the command line, X starts.
> > > >
> > > > Any advice?
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Guillermo
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hi Guillermo,
> > >
> > > try and make yourself a new user. If that one can work with the X-part of
> > > your system - then some rights in your local $HOME directory are broken
> > > (.xinitrc
> > > would be a candidate for this kind of weird behaviour, but also
> > > .ICEauthority or .Xauthority).
> > > If of cause the new user account does have the same problems, your
> /etx/X11
> > > or worse might have wrong user rights.
> > > Have also a look i a file called .xerrors, .xsession-errors  - or
> something
> > > like that (can't remember the correct name anymore), there could be some
> > > hints in
> > > it, if it does exist, what your problem is.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Karl
> > >
> > >
> > When you run Slim, you also get a /var/log/slim.log to look at.
> 
> I have tried to make a new user, but it has the same problem. I have started X
> as root, and works. Then I installed xfce, and it hangs as well. Twm runs fine
> for all users. Gnome and xfce hang even for root.
> 
> The .xsession-errors file is not updated. It is dated a couple of months
> ago...
> 
> I have created an .xinitrc for root, and it also gets locked when I select
> gnome or xfce.
> 
> As the system gets completely locked, I have to power cycle it, and the Xorg
> log files have 0 bytes when I reboot...
> 
> I checked KMS. I included intel_agp and i915 in mkinitcpio.conf, but it seems
> to be unrelated to the problem, as twm works.
> 
> Help... :-(
> 
> I don't even know what to look for. And I wouldn't like to reinstall the
> system (that would be too easy).
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Guillermo Leira
> 

Just FYI. The issue is solved, but I don't like very much how...

I enabled the testing repository, run pacman -Syu, and I everything was working 
fine again. I'm sorry, there where 33 packages, I don't know which one did the 
magic.

I have updated another computer that had not been updated for a couple of 
weeks, and it died the same way. And the cure was the same: Enable the testing 
repository.

I have another six computers running Arch, and some virtual machines, and I 
have had no problem with them.

The two computers with problems are completely different: A laptop with Intel 
graphics, and a desktop with Nvidia. But they also have some things in common 
and different of the other computers: Both of them boot from an external USB 
drive (the internal hard drive has XP installed), and they are the only ones 
with x86_64.

Best Regards,

Guillermo Leira




Re: [arch-general] GDM Locked - is Gnome locked

2010-10-30 Thread Guillermo Leira
> > On 06:51 Tue 19 Oct , Guillermo Leira wrote:
> > > > After the last Pacman -Syu, I can't login with gdm. As soon as I clikc
> > on my
> > > > username, the system seems to freeze... Although not completely: I can
> > ping
> > > > from other computer, but I can't ssh.
> > > >
> > > > Before I click on the username, the "switch off" icon at the right down
> > corner
> > > > works. Once I click on the username, nothing else works, and I neither
> > can
> > > > ctrl-alt-F1 to the console...
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions/questions?
> > >
> > > I have removed GDM and installed SLIM. Now I can login, but the screen
> > shows nothing... And if I try to CTRL-ALT-F1 to the console, the system
> > locks again. It is not a GDM problem.
> > >
> > > If I run startx from the command line, X starts.
> > >
> > > Any advice?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Guillermo
> > >
> >
> > Hi Guillermo,
> >
> > try and make yourself a new user. If that one can work with the X-part of
> > your system - then some rights in your local $HOME directory are broken
> > (.xinitrc
> > would be a candidate for this kind of weird behaviour, but also
> > .ICEauthority or .Xauthority).
> > If of cause the new user account does have the same problems, your /etx/X11
> > or worse might have wrong user rights.
> > Have also a look i a file called .xerrors, .xsession-errors  - or something
> > like that (can't remember the correct name anymore), there could be some
> > hints in
> > it, if it does exist, what your problem is.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Karl
> >
> >
> When you run Slim, you also get a /var/log/slim.log to look at.

I have tried to make a new user, but it has the same problem. I have started X 
as root, and works. Then I installed xfce, and it hangs as well. Twm runs fine 
for all users. Gnome and xfce hang even for root.

The .xsession-errors file is not updated. It is dated a couple of months ago...

I have created an .xinitrc for root, and it also gets locked when I select 
gnome or xfce.

As the system gets completely locked, I have to power cycle it, and the Xorg 
log files have 0 bytes when I reboot...

I checked KMS. I included intel_agp and i915 in mkinitcpio.conf, but it seems 
to be unrelated to the problem, as twm works.

Help... :-(

I don't even know what to look for. And I wouldn't like to reinstall the system 
(that would be too easy).

Best Regards,

Guillermo Leira




Re: [arch-general] GDM Locked

2010-10-19 Thread karl
On 06:51 Tue 19 Oct , Guillermo Leira wrote:
> > After the last Pacman -Syu, I can't login with gdm. As soon as I clikc on my
> > username, the system seems to freeze... Although not completely: I can ping
> > from other computer, but I can't ssh.
> > 
> > Before I click on the username, the "switch off" icon at the right down 
> > corner
> > works. Once I click on the username, nothing else works, and I neither can
> > ctrl-alt-F1 to the console...
> > 
> > Any suggestions/questions?
> 
> I have removed GDM and installed SLIM. Now I can login, but the screen shows 
> nothing... And if I try to CTRL-ALT-F1 to the console, the system locks 
> again. It is not a GDM problem.
> 
> If I run startx from the command line, X starts.
> 
> Any advice?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Guillermo
> 

The behaviour that switching to the console freezes the output happens normaly, 
when kernel mode settings aren't activated / functioning / vesa instead of 
the nouveau-driver (radeon, intel, whatever) is used.
Have a look ...

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KMS
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nouveau

Kind regards,

Karl



Re: [arch-general] GDM Locked

2010-10-19 Thread Cédric Girard
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:56 AM, karl  wrote:

> On 06:51 Tue 19 Oct , Guillermo Leira wrote:
> > > After the last Pacman -Syu, I can't login with gdm. As soon as I clikc
> on my
> > > username, the system seems to freeze... Although not completely: I can
> ping
> > > from other computer, but I can't ssh.
> > >
> > > Before I click on the username, the "switch off" icon at the right down
> corner
> > > works. Once I click on the username, nothing else works, and I neither
> can
> > > ctrl-alt-F1 to the console...
> > >
> > > Any suggestions/questions?
> >
> > I have removed GDM and installed SLIM. Now I can login, but the screen
> shows nothing... And if I try to CTRL-ALT-F1 to the console, the system
> locks again. It is not a GDM problem.
> >
> > If I run startx from the command line, X starts.
> >
> > Any advice?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Guillermo
> >
>
> Hi Guillermo,
>
> try and make yourself a new user. If that one can work with the X-part of
> your system - then some rights in your local $HOME directory are broken
> (.xinitrc
> would be a candidate for this kind of weird behaviour, but also
> .ICEauthority or .Xauthority).
> If of cause the new user account does have the same problems, your /etx/X11
> or worse might have wrong user rights.
> Have also a look i a file called .xerrors, .xsession-errors  - or something
> like that (can't remember the correct name anymore), there could be some
> hints in
> it, if it does exist, what your problem is.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Karl
>
>
When you run Slim, you also get a /var/log/slim.log to look at.


-- 
Cédric Girard


Re: [arch-general] GDM Locked

2010-10-19 Thread karl
On 06:51 Tue 19 Oct , Guillermo Leira wrote:
> > After the last Pacman -Syu, I can't login with gdm. As soon as I clikc on my
> > username, the system seems to freeze... Although not completely: I can ping
> > from other computer, but I can't ssh.
> > 
> > Before I click on the username, the "switch off" icon at the right down 
> > corner
> > works. Once I click on the username, nothing else works, and I neither can
> > ctrl-alt-F1 to the console...
> > 
> > Any suggestions/questions?
> 
> I have removed GDM and installed SLIM. Now I can login, but the screen shows 
> nothing... And if I try to CTRL-ALT-F1 to the console, the system locks 
> again. It is not a GDM problem.
> 
> If I run startx from the command line, X starts.
> 
> Any advice?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Guillermo
> 

Hi Guillermo,

try and make yourself a new user. If that one can work with the X-part of your 
system - then some rights in your local $HOME directory are broken (.xinitrc 
would be a candidate for this kind of weird behaviour, but also .ICEauthority 
or .Xauthority).
If of cause the new user account does have the same problems, your /etx/X11 or 
worse might have wrong user rights.
Have also a look i a file called .xerrors, .xsession-errors  - or something 
like that (can't remember the correct name anymore), there could be some hints 
in 
it, if it does exist, what your problem is.

Best regards,

Karl



Re: [arch-general] GDM Locked

2010-10-18 Thread Guillermo Leira
> After the last Pacman -Syu, I can't login with gdm. As soon as I clikc on my
> username, the system seems to freeze... Although not completely: I can ping
> from other computer, but I can't ssh.
> 
> Before I click on the username, the "switch off" icon at the right down corner
> works. Once I click on the username, nothing else works, and I neither can
> ctrl-alt-F1 to the console...
> 
> Any suggestions/questions?

I have removed GDM and installed SLIM. Now I can login, but the screen shows 
nothing... And if I try to CTRL-ALT-F1 to the console, the system locks again. 
It is not a GDM problem.

If I run startx from the command line, X starts.

Any advice?

Best regards,

Guillermo




[arch-general] GDM Locked

2010-10-18 Thread Guillermo Leira
Hi!

After the last Pacman -Syu, I can't login with gdm. As soon as I clikc on my 
username, the system seems to freeze... Although not completely: I can ping 
from other computer, but I can't ssh.

Before I click on the username, the "switch off" icon at the right down corner 
works. Once I click on the username, nothing else works, and I neither can 
ctrl-alt-F1 to the console...

Any suggestions/questions?

Best Regards,

Guillermo