Re: [arch-general] Gnome Sound Events and Settings

2011-01-23 Thread Ionuț Bîru

On 01/23/2011 09:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 06:38:08PM +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote:

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Sound preferences exists only if you install pulseaudio and
corresponding pulse package for gnome (pacman -S pulseaudio-gnome)


I cannot find pulseaudio-gnome in standard repos.  Or I should say,
pacman doesn't find such a package.  I haven't looked in AUR yet.


because is a group. pacman -Sg pulseaudio-gnome

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Ionuț


[arch-general] Gnome Sound Events and Settings

2011-01-22 Thread Steve Holmes
What tools are needed in Arch to configure the login and logout sounds
for GNOME? 

When I go into the Volume control, I can only change the alert sounds
and that, I can do OK but right now, I cannot get any sounds to work
for Login, Logout, e-mail, etc.  I've seen references in google for
other distros having something called Sound-Preferences or something
but I don't see anything like that for Arch.  Google also pulled up
some forum references to this same question but no answers were ever
given.

What do other GNOME users do about this in Arch? I'm not aware of how
to specify the paths for the right files.  Ifound the sound files
themselves in /usr/share/sounds but can't figure out where to go from
here.

Any ideas?


Re: [arch-general] Gnome Sound Events and Settings

2011-01-22 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Saturday, January 22, 2011 09:28:35 am Steve Holmes wrote:
 What tools are needed in Arch to configure the login and logout sounds
 for GNOME?
 
 When I go into the Volume control, I can only change the alert sounds
 and that, I can do OK but right now, I cannot get any sounds to work
 for Login, Logout, e-mail, etc.  I've seen references in google for
 other distros having something called Sound-Preferences or something
 but I don't see anything like that for Arch.  Google also pulled up
 some forum references to this same question but no answers were ever
 given.
 
 What do other GNOME users do about this in Arch? I'm not aware of how
 to specify the paths for the right files.  Ifound the sound files
 themselves in /usr/share/sounds but can't figure out where to go from
 here.
 
 Any ideas?

I encountered this issue a few years ago, when for whatever reason the GNOME 
developers stripped away sound theming for no reason.

Perhaps the option is buried deep within the gconf-editor?


Re: [arch-general] Gnome Sound Events and Settings

2011-01-22 Thread Ionuț Bîru

On 01/22/2011 05:28 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:

What tools are needed in Arch to configure the login and logout sounds
for GNOME?

When I go into the Volume control, I can only change the alert sounds
and that, I can do OK but right now, I cannot get any sounds to work
for Login, Logout, e-mail, etc.  I've seen references in google for
other distros having something called Sound-Preferences or something
but I don't see anything like that for Arch.  Google also pulled up
some forum references to this same question but no answers were ever
given.

Sound preferences exists only if you install pulseaudio and 
corresponding pulse package for gnome (pacman -S pulseaudio-gnome)



What do other GNOME users do about this in Arch? I'm not aware of how
to specify the paths for the right files.  Ifound the sound files
themselves in /usr/share/sounds but can't figure out where to go from
here.

Any ideas?


Gnome project relies on sound-theme-freedesktop as the default theme 
from it. For some reasons they removed the login and logout sound and 
many more to replace it. That happened more that 1 year ago.


If you want sounds, try search a sound theme on gnome-look.org


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Ionuț


Re: [arch-general] Gnome Sound Events and Settings

2011-01-22 Thread Ionuț Bîru

On 01/22/2011 07:40 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 06:38:08PM +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote:

Sound preferences exists only if you install pulseaudio and
corresponding pulse package for gnome (pacman -S pulseaudio-gnome)


Why pulse audio? I have heard so much bad press about it, I never
installed it on my system.  I have other facilities on my system that
require sound to transcend multiple users like speech dispatcher and
screen reader applications that are adversely affected by using pulse
audio.  I wonder if I could just find and build the sound preferences
portion myself with my own package without using pulse? I understand
that once pulse is running, you can't use ALSA or anything else at the
same time.



lets not start a rant about this. This is what gnome decided long time 
ago and we actually patched (and is not the arch way) that out to 
provided gstreamer support over pulse.



Gnome project relies on sound-theme-freedesktop as the default theme
from it. For some reasons they removed the login and logout sound
and many more to replace it. That happened more that 1 year ago.

If you want sounds, try search a sound theme on gnome-look.org


Actually, I have the borealis package tarball here and was figuring to
install it.  It is just the sound files though so I need to know how
to tell GNOME where to find these files and associate them with the
appropriate events.  It is these sound events I can't find in GNOME to
assign the files.


now that i'm thinking more about it there should be under the volume 
control a drop down list labeled as Sound theme (and have as entries No 
sound and Default) and below that where you can select the alert sound. 
The most annoying thing is that you can't modify the alert sound volume 
(that is available only with pulse).


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Re: [arch-general] Gnome Sound Events and Settings

2011-01-22 Thread Steve Holmes
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 08:01:05PM +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote:
 lets not start a rant about this. This is what gnome decided long
 time ago and we actually patched (and is not the arch way) that out
 to provided gstreamer support over pulse.

Oh, so one could install the gnome-pulse stuff and just not run the
pulse daemon? that might be an interesting thing to try.  I'll need to
examine that package.

 now that i'm thinking more about it there should be under the volume
 control a drop down list labeled as Sound theme (and have as entries
 No sound and Default) and below that where you can select the alert
 sound. The most annoying thing is that you can't modify the alert
 sound volume (that is available only with pulse).

Interesting; I had no idea GNOME was relying so heavily on Pulse
Audio.  Anyway, I have been through the volume control and see the
options you speak of.  That is only the general alert sounds though
and doesn't include things like Login, logout, etc.  These are .ogg
files and you can choose between things like Glass, Bark, Sonar, and
No sound.  On occasion I hear other sounds during things like errors
and questions but haven't yet figured out exactly which files are
being used and how chosen.  It seems very comvoluted at how to
configure sound events in gnome now days.


Re: [arch-general] Gnome Sound Events and Settings

2011-01-22 Thread Steve Holmes
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 06:38:08PM +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote:
 ...
 Sound preferences exists only if you install pulseaudio and
 corresponding pulse package for gnome (pacman -S pulseaudio-gnome)

I cannot find pulseaudio-gnome in standard repos.  Or I should say,
pacman doesn't find such a package.  I haven't looked in AUR yet.