Re: [arch-general] KDE4 Anyone?

2008-01-20 Thread JJDaNiMoTh
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:26:07 +0100
RedShift [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rodrigo Coacci wrote:
  So have anyone got up and running with KDE4 on Arch? I know about kdemod 
  testing, but they miss some dependencies (tapioca-qt, strigi...), so to 
  do those by hand i'd prefer to do all myself :-P
  Also, any ideas on when we'll get KDE4 on extra or even testing?
  
  -- 
  Cheers
   Rodrigo
  
 
 
 IMO KDE 4 is all but ready for production, from what I've heard even the 
 KDE developpers suggest waiting untill at least KDE 4.1 for it to be 
 actually usable.
 
 Glenn
 

http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174
KDE 4.0 != KDE4 ... and devs of arch know it :)

-- 
JJDaNiMoTh - ArchLinux Trusted User


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Re: [arch-general] KDE4 Anyone?

2008-01-20 Thread Mark Constable
On 20 Jan 2008 20:09, JJDaNiMoTh wrote:
 http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174
 KDE 4.0 != KDE4 ... and devs of arch know it :)

This comment sums up the posting, which seems to be a bit
of magnet for those who want to point how untidy the 4.0
release was...

 http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174#comment-7091

The original canonical posting about 4.0, for anyone who
might have missed it, is...

 http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/01/talking-bluntly.html

pacman 3.1.1 will be out in a few days (I presume) and that
will help the next KDEmod4 release, KDE 4.0.1 will be out
in maybe 2 weeks with a first round of fixes and Qt4.4 will
be out in about 8 weeks and that will enable plasma to be
far more complete around KDE 4.0.3.

--markc



Re: [arch-general] KDE4 Anyone?

2008-01-20 Thread Rodrigo Coacci
On Jan 20, 2008 8:51 AM, Mark Constable [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 20 Jan 2008 20:09, JJDaNiMoTh wrote:
  http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174
  KDE 4.0 != KDE4 ... and devs of arch know it :)

 This comment sums up the posting, which seems to be a bit
 of magnet for those who want to point how untidy the 4.0
 release was...

  http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174#comment-7091

 The original canonical posting about 4.0, for anyone who
 might have missed it, is...

  http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/01/talking-bluntly.html

 pacman 3.1.1 will be out in a few days (I presume) and that
 will help the next KDEmod4 release, KDE 4.0.1 will be out
 in maybe 2 weeks with a first round of fixes and Qt4.4 will
 be out in about 8 weeks and that will enable plasma to be
 far more complete around KDE 4.0.3.

 --markc


Well, from the kdemod thread it seems I'll have to upgrade arch to testing,
so I guess I'll stick with my Xfce for now...
Thanks everybody for the replies.

-- 
Cheers
 Rodrigo

A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open
windows.
  ~Linus Torvalds


Re: [arch-general] KDE4 Anyone?

2008-01-20 Thread Federico Manganelli
Il Saturday 19 January 2008 21:52:04 Rodrigo Coacci ha scritto:
 So have anyone got up and running with KDE4 on Arch? I know about kdemod
 testing, but they miss some dependencies (tapioca-qt, strigi...), so to do
 those by hand i'd prefer to do all myself :-P
 Also, any ideas on when we'll get KDE4 on extra or even testing?

I use kde4 for my box for two month as my desktop and I'm quite happy with it
I like to see changes and improvement come up day by day, it's very 
interesting , and I do my works as well.
 I build it from source from svn using kdesvn-build , a great tool you can 
find here
http://kdesvn-build.kde.org/
It's very simple to configure and It will build every kde module you need 
installing it where you want. My kde4 installation is in /opt/kde4
and don't mess with pacman database since it's not packaged. :-)
Since the stuff is all there if I want to remove it I simply delete that 
folder and start again.
So , tweak your .kdesvn-buildrc as you want , build with
kdesvn-build --debug kdesupport kdelibs kdepimlibs kdebase
set up a correct environment for the user (better with a script in 
/etc/profile.d) and you're done with your kde4 experience.
cheers






Re: [arch-general] KDE4 Anyone?

2008-01-19 Thread wd
Seemes waiting KDE4.1 now?

2008/1/20, Rodrigo Coacci [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 So have anyone got up and running with KDE4 on Arch? I know about kdemod
 testing, but they miss some dependencies (tapioca-qt, strigi...), so to do
 those by hand i'd prefer to do all myself :-P
 Also, any ideas on when we'll get KDE4 on extra or even testing?

 --
 Cheers
  Rodrigo

 A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open
 windows.
   ~Linus Torvalds


Re: [arch-general] KDE4 Anyone?

2008-01-19 Thread Mark Constable
On 20 Jan 2008 09:26, RedShift wrote:
  So have anyone got up and running with KDE4 on Arch? I know about kdemod 
  testing, but they miss some dependencies (tapioca-qt, strigi...), so to 
  do those by hand i'd prefer to do all myself :-P

Aparently waiting on pacman 3.1.1, in a few days, to sort
out some dependency issues. Keep an eye on this thread...

 http://www.kdemod.ath.cx/bbs/viewtopic.php?id=406action=new

  Also, any ideas on when we'll get KDE4 on extra or even testing?
 
 IMO KDE 4 is all but ready for production, from what I've heard even the 
 KDE developpers suggest waiting untill at least KDE 4.1 for it to be 
 actually usable.

It's usable to varying degrees right now and a lot of folks
are just keen to try it out. I've got a Kubuntu laptop and
even just using their KDE4 packages on top of 3.5.8 KWin
(without the plasma desktop) is a worthwhile experience.

--markc