Re: [arch-general] Kernel 3.13

2014-01-28 Thread David C. Rankin
On 01/26/2014 02:17 PM, Dave wrote:
 Jonathan Hudson jh+a...@daria.co.uk wrote:
 When you upgrade to kernel 3.13, pacman considerately informs you that
 you must have a keyboard hook in mkinitcpio.conf.

 What you're not told is that if you have an AT keyboard, you also need
 to ensure that the atkbd module is loaded, otherwise you probably won't
 have a working keyboard on reboot.

 -jh
 
 Do you subscribe to arch-dev-public?  It's under discussion there and saved 
 me.
 


Yes, and I am still unclear what is required to insure that an appropriate
module is loaded for a normal laptop/desktop. I already include 'keyboard' in
HOOKS -- is that all that is needed or are there additional specific modules
that need to be probed? Does HOOKS=.. keyboard.. insure the atkbd module will
be loaded/probed?

I vote for a solution that insures a keyboard is always probed/detected/provided
if one exists whether that is shipping a modules-load.d fragment or leaving it
built-in. From the discussion, a manual probing seems like a bad answer.

-- 
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.


Re: [arch-general] Kernel 3.13

2014-01-28 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 28.01.2014 09:07, schrieb David C. Rankin:
 Yes, and I am still unclear what is required to insure that an appropriate
 module is loaded for a normal laptop/desktop.

Nothing. The keyboard should simply.

 I already include 'keyboard' in HOOKS

This is only required if you want to use the keyboard in early
userspace, which 90% of the time, you don't even have to (encrypted root
is one popular exception, handling a failsafe shell is another).

The 'keyboard' hook has been in the defaullt configuration for a a while
now.

 I vote for a solution that insures a keyboard is always 
 probed/detected/provided

If your keyboard doesn't work out of the box with 3.13-2, please add a
comment to the appropriate bug report [1] (that is for everyone -
comment on that bug if you have keyboard problems with 3.13-2).
Everything else is just a waste of time.

[1] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/38671



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Re: [arch-general] Kernel 3.13

2014-01-27 Thread phanisvara
have been using [testing] for a couple of years now and this is the 
first time i'm getting in trouble which i don't understand.

i don't use a PS2 keyboard and was encouraged from others' positive 
reports with 3.13, so i upgraded. unfortunately this doesn't work 
with me, apparently because of my bios / graphics card and i received 
a bunch of repeating errors during boot (pasted below).

i haven't seen this type of thing before and am not sure if this is 
bug report material or lack of understanding on my part -- and if bug 
report, against what, exactly?

first here's my system (inxi -b):

System:Host: phani Kernel: 3.12.8-1-ARCH x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: 
Awesome 3.5.2 Distro: Arch Linux
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: K53SK version: 1.0 Bios: American 
Megatrends version: K53SK.203 date: 10/11/2011
CPU:   Quad core Intel Core i7-2670QM CPU (-HT-MCP-) clocked at 
1178.289 MHz 
Graphics:  Card-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family 
Integrated Graphics Controller 
   Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Whistler LE 
[Radeon HD 6610M/7610M] 
   X.Org: 1.15.0 driver: intel Resolution: 1366x768@60.0hz, 
1920x1080@60.0hz 
   GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Mobile GLX 
Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.0.2
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit 
Ethernet Controller driver: r8168 
   Card-2: Intel Centrino Wireless-N 100 driver: iwlwifi 
Drives:HDD Total Size: 750.2GB (42.2% used)
Info:  Processes: 252 Uptime: 21 min Memory: 1598.1/5876.2MB 
Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.9.18 


and then there's the errors, during two separate boots. once with 
acpi_call-git installed, once without:

Jan 28 01:52:38 phani kernel: [drm:atom_op_jump] *ERROR* atombios 
stuck in loop for more than 5secs aborting
Jan 28 01:52:38 phani kernel: [drm:atom_execute_table_locked] *ERROR* 
atombios stuck executing CEDE (len 62, WS 0, PS 0) @ 0xCEFA
Jan 28 01:52:38 phani kernel: [drm:atom_execute_table_locked] *ERROR* 
atombios stuck executing BBDE (len 1036, WS 4, PS 0) @ 0xBCDB
Jan 28 01:52:38 phani kernel: [drm:atom_execute_table_locked] *ERROR* 
atombios stuck executing BB74 (len 76, WS 0, PS 8) @ 0xBB7C
Jan 28 01:52:38 phani kernel: [drm] PCIE gen 2 link speeds already 
enabled
Jan 28 01:52:39 phani kernel: radeon :01:00.0: Wait for MC idle 
timedout !
Jan 28 01:52:39 phani kernel: radeon :01:00.0: Wait for MC idle 
timedout !
Jan 28 01:52:39 phani kernel: [drm] PCIE GART of 1024M enabled (table 
at 0x00273000).
Jan 28 01:52:39 phani kernel: radeon :01:00.0: WB enabled
Jan 28 01:52:39 phani kernel: radeon :01:00.0: fence driver on 
ring 0 use gpu addr 0x8c00 and cpu addr 
0x8800a3148c00
Jan 28 01:52:39 phani kernel: radeon :01:00.0: fence driver on 
ring 3 use gpu addr 0x8c0c and cpu addr 
0x8800a3148c0c
Jan 28 01:52:39 phani kernel: radeon :01:00.0: fence driver on 
ring 5 use gpu addr 0x00072118 and cpu addr 
0xc90017632118
Jan 28 01:52:39 phani kernel: [drm:r600_ring_test] *ERROR* radeon: 
ring 0 test failed (scratch(0x8504)=0x)
Jan 28 01:52:39 phani kernel: [drm:evergreen_resume] *ERROR* 
evergreen startup failed on resume
Jan 28 01:52:39 phani kernel: [drm:radeon_pm_resume_dpm] *ERROR* 
radeon: dpm resume failed
Jan 28 01:52:44 phani kernel: [drm:atom_op_jump] *ERROR* atombios 
stuck in loop for more than 5secs aborting
Jan 28 01:52:44 phani kernel: [drm:atom_execute_table_locked] *ERROR* 
atombios stuck executing C588 (len 1136, WS 0, PS 0) @ 0xC5B2
Jan 28 01:52:49 phani kernel: [drm:atom_op_jump] *ERROR* atombios 
stuck in loop for more than 5secs aborting
Jan 28 01:52:49 phani kernel: [drm:atom_execute_table_locked] *ERROR* 
atombios stuck executing CEDE (len 62, WS 0, PS 0) @ 0xCEFA
Jan 28 01:52:54 phani kernel: [drm:atom_op_jump] *ERROR* atombios 
stuck in loop for more than 5secs aborting
Jan 28 01:52:54 phani kernel: [drm:atom_execute_table_locked] *ERROR* 
atombios stuck executing CEDE (len 62, WS 0, PS 0) @ 0xCEFA
Jan 28 01:52:56 phani kdm[1076]: X server startup timeout, 
terminating
Jan 28 01:52:59 phani kernel: [drm:atom_op_jump] *ERROR* atombios 
stuck in loop for more than 5secs aborting
Jan 28 01:52:59 phani kernel: [drm:atom_execute_table_locked] *ERROR* 
atombios stuck executing CEDE (len 62, WS 0, PS 0) @ 0xCEFA
Jan 28 01:53:04 phani kernel: [drm:atom_op_jump] *ERROR* atombios 
stuck in loop for more than 5secs aborting
Jan 28 01:53:04 phani kernel: [drm:atom_execute_table_locked] *ERROR* 
atombios stuck executing CEDE (len 62, WS 0, PS 0) @ 0xCEFA
Jan 28 01:53:09 phani kernel: [drm:atom_op_jump] *ERROR* atombios 
stuck in loop for more than 5secs aborting
Jan 28 01:53:09 phani kernel: [drm:atom_execute_table_locked] *ERROR* 
atombios stuck executing CEDE (len 62, WS 0, PS 0) @ 0xCEFA
Jan 28 01:53:14 phani kernel: [drm:atom_op_jump] *ERROR* atombios 
stuck in loop for more than 5secs aborting
Jan 28 

Re: [arch-general] Kernel 3.13

2014-01-27 Thread Nowaker

i haven't seen this type of thing before and am not sure if this is
bug report material or lack of understanding on my part -- and if bug
report, against what, exactly?


Try disabling Radeon DPM with kernel switch. I don't remember the exact 
name, but it's probably something like radeon.dpm=0. I have recently 
read on the channel that DPM is enabled by default as of 3.13. If it's 
not DPM to blame I suggest to ask the guys on #radeon directly.


--
Kind regards,
Damian Nowak
StratusHost
www.AtlasHost.eu


Re: [arch-general] Kernel 3.13

2014-01-27 Thread Timothée Ravier
On 27/01/2014 21:07, phanisvara wrote:
 (..)
 Jan 28 01:58:33 phani kernel: [drm:atom_execute_table_locked] *ERROR* 
 atombios stuck executing CEDE (len 62, WS 0, PS 0) @ 0xCEFA
 (...)

Have a look at https://bugs.freedesktop.org and search for your bug in
the DRI section. If you find none, report it with full dmesg log.

-- 
Timothée Ravier


Re: [arch-general] Kernel 3.13

2014-01-27 Thread phanisvara
On Monday 27 Jan 2014 22:31:36 Nowaker wrote:
  i haven't seen this type of thing before and am not sure if this
  is bug report material or lack of understanding on my part --
  and if bug report, against what, exactly?
 
 Try disabling Radeon DPM with kernel switch. I don't remember the
 exact name, but it's probably something like radeon.dpm=0. I have
 recently read on the channel that DPM is enabled by default as of
 3.13. If it's not DPM to blame I suggest to ask the guys on
 #radeon directly.

thanks a lot, disabling DPM with radeon.dpm=0 as kernel param. 
workded fine. i then remembered that i had some custom config. in 
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ which had proven useful earlier.

after removing both, 20-radeon.conf  20-intel.conf from that 
directory, everything starts fine w/o the no-DPM parameter. seems with 
the new kernel, these tweaks aren't needed anymore  :)

-- 
phani.


Re: [arch-general] Kernel 3.13

2014-01-27 Thread phanisvara
On Monday 27 Jan 2014 22:40:18 Timothée Ravier wrote:
 On 27/01/2014 21:07, phanisvara wrote:
  (..)
  Jan 28 01:58:33 phani kernel: [drm:atom_execute_table_locked]
  *ERROR* atombios stuck executing CEDE (len 62, WS 0, PS 0) @
  0xCEFA (...)
 
 Have a look at https://bugs.freedesktop.org and search for your bug
 in the DRI section. If you find none, report it with full dmesg
 log.

thanks, i would have done that if i hadn't found that this wasn't a 
bug but my own mistake. i had some weird radeon configuration in 
xorg.conf.d which aren't needed, or even working anymore.

-- 
phani.


[arch-general] Kernel 3.13

2014-01-26 Thread Jonathan Hudson
When you upgrade to kernel 3.13, pacman considerately informs you that
you must have a keyboard hook in mkinitcpio.conf.

What you're not told is that if you have an AT keyboard, you also need
to ensure that the atkbd module is loaded, otherwise you probably won't
have a working keyboard on reboot.

-jh






Re: [arch-general] Kernel 3.13

2014-01-26 Thread Dave
Jonathan Hudson jh+a...@daria.co.uk wrote:
When you upgrade to kernel 3.13, pacman considerately informs you that
you must have a keyboard hook in mkinitcpio.conf.

What you're not told is that if you have an AT keyboard, you also need
to ensure that the atkbd module is loaded, otherwise you probably won't
have a working keyboard on reboot.

-jh

Do you subscribe to arch-dev-public?  It's under discussion there and saved me.

--
Dave

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Re: [arch-general] Kernel 3.13

2014-01-26 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Jonathan Hudson jh+a...@daria.co.uk wrote:
 When you upgrade to kernel 3.13, pacman considerately informs you that
 you must have a keyboard hook in mkinitcpio.conf.

 What you're not told is that if you have an AT keyboard, you also need
 to ensure that the atkbd module is loaded, otherwise you probably won't
 have a working keyboard on reboot.

 -jh

linux 3.13-1 is in [testing] and if you use [testing] repos you should
subscribe to arch-dev-public ML:
https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2014-January/025830.html


Re: [arch-general] Kernel 3.13

2014-01-26 Thread Jonathan Hudson
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:17:13 +, Dave wrote:

Jonathan Hudson jh+a...@daria.co.uk wrote:
When you upgrade to kernel 3.13, pacman considerately informs you that
you must have a keyboard hook in mkinitcpio.conf.

What you're not told is that if you have an AT keyboard, you also need
to ensure that the atkbd module is loaded, otherwise you probably won't
have a working keyboard on reboot.

-jh

Do you subscribe to arch-dev-public?  It's under discussion there and saved me.

--
Dave

GPG/PGP ID: CDB94DA1


Thanks for the clue.

-jh