Re: [arch-general] New Thunderbird build 3.0-2 installs lightning by default

2009-12-18 Thread Javier Vasquez
On 12/18/09, Magnus Therning mag...@therning.org wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Javier Vasquez j.e.vasque...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 On 12/15/09, Ionut Biru biru.io...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 12/15/2009 09:19 PM, Arvid Picciani wrote:
 On 12/15/2009 07:37 AM, Jürgen Hagemann wrote:

 ...

 thunderbird-3.0-3 has no gnomeui, no lightning.

 --
 Ionut


 And is this good?  The lightning XPI doesn't work for x86_64, the
 lightning in AUR doesn't work with 3.0 (I even tried to tweak PKGBUILD
 myself with no luck), so there's no lightning at all for x86_64
 architecture...

 I can see the logic behind the decision, if lightning (as shipped with
 TB3) is suggested to be turned off by upstream, then it's prudent to
 turn it off in the distro's default build too.  Irritating for me,
 yes, but I can live with it.

 I put up a binary package based on a modified PKGBUILD (actually, the
 file that needs modifying is mozconfig) at
 http://therning.org/magnus_arch/thunderbird-3.0-3.1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
 It's what I use and it works for me.  If you don't want to use the
 binary directly I'll be happy to post the source package for you.

 /M

 --
 Magnus Therning(OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4)
 magnus@therning.org  Jabber: magnus@therning.org
 http://therning.org/magnus identi.ca|twitter: magthe



The change is this one, right?

% diff mozconfig.1 mozconfig.2
24d23
 ac_add_options --enable-calendar

I understand what you're saying.  However the effect of following the
recommendation is orphaning x86_64 from lightning.

What seems an issue to me is not considering calendar integration
(whether by add-on, or built-in) as a must for thunderbird (so far
such integration for x86_64 is only possible built-in).

So I can compile my own thunderbird-lightning package (already did,
with the enable option before), but as the issue is that calendar
integration is not consider a must for thunderbird, while it is a need
for me, perhaps the best approach for me is to drop thunderbird for
another e-mail client for which calendar integration is a must...

If calendar integration was a must, another option might have been considered:

1.-  Drop calendar support for x86_64.  (selected option)
2.-  Keep calendar support with 3.0 built-in.
3.-  Don't update to 3.0 for x86_64 until calendar support is enabled
through add-on.

Any ways, I won't discuss further since answers indicate people is OK
with the decision...

Thanks,

-- 
Javier.


Re: [arch-general] New Thunderbird build 3.0-2 installs lightning by default

2009-12-17 Thread Javier Vasquez
On 12/15/09, Ionut Biru biru.io...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 12/15/2009 09:19 PM, Arvid Picciani wrote:
 On 12/15/2009 07:37 AM, Jürgen Hagemann wrote:

...

 thunderbird-3.0-3 has no gnomeui, no lightning.

 --
 Ionut


And is this good?  The lightning XPI doesn't work for x86_64, the
lightning in AUR doesn't work with 3.0 (I even tried to tweak PKGBUILD
myself with no luck), so there's no lightning at all for x86_64
architecture...

Just wondering...


-- 
Javier.


Re: [arch-general] New Thunderbird build 3.0-2 installs lightning by default

2009-12-17 Thread Ionut Biru

On 12/17/2009 07:28 PM, Javier Vasquez wrote:


And is this good?  The lightning XPI doesn't work for x86_64, the
lightning in AUR doesn't work with 3.0 (I even tried to tweak PKGBUILD
myself with no luck), so there's no lightning at all for x86_64
architecture...

Just wondering...




you can always use abs and add support for it.


--
Ionut


Re: [arch-general] New Thunderbird build 3.0-2 installs lightning by default

2009-12-17 Thread Magnus Therning
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Javier Vasquez j.e.vasque...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 12/15/09, Ionut Biru biru.io...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 12/15/2009 09:19 PM, Arvid Picciani wrote:
 On 12/15/2009 07:37 AM, Jürgen Hagemann wrote:

 ...

 thunderbird-3.0-3 has no gnomeui, no lightning.

 --
 Ionut


 And is this good?  The lightning XPI doesn't work for x86_64, the
 lightning in AUR doesn't work with 3.0 (I even tried to tweak PKGBUILD
 myself with no luck), so there's no lightning at all for x86_64
 architecture...

I can see the logic behind the decision, if lightning (as shipped with
TB3) is suggested to be turned off by upstream, then it's prudent to
turn it off in the distro's default build too.  Irritating for me,
yes, but I can live with it.

I put up a binary package based on a modified PKGBUILD (actually, the
file that needs modifying is mozconfig) at
http://therning.org/magnus_arch/thunderbird-3.0-3.1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
It's what I use and it works for me.  If you don't want to use the
binary directly I'll be happy to post the source package for you.

/M

-- 
Magnus Therning(OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4)
magnus@therning.org  Jabber: magnus@therning.org
http://therning.org/magnus identi.ca|twitter: magthe


Re: [arch-general] New Thunderbird build 3.0-2 installs lightning by default

2009-12-15 Thread Xavier
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Arvid Picciani a...@exys.org wrote:
 On 12/15/2009 07:37 AM, Jürgen Hagemann wrote:

 The new TB update from today enables and installs lightning by default.
 Bugreport: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17510?project=1pagenum=1
 This is a bad idea, because some people don´t want it.
 Mozilla doesn´t recommend to set the calendar flag on building...
 Another point is, that the builtin calendar extension is not localized.
 So, on non-english systems people have a language mix in TB...

 http://hereticlinux.org/repo/i686/thunderbird-3.0-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz

 no dbus, no gnomeui, no lightning
 depds compatible with arch stable



If you just want to give one link, please give the pkgbuild one, so
that we can see what it does (and also no need to cover both
architectures) :
http://bitbucket.org/aep/arch-antidesktop/src/tip/thunderbird/

It was not too hard to find but it was not direct either.


Re: [arch-general] New Thunderbird build 3.0-2 installs lightning by default

2009-12-15 Thread Ionut Biru

On 12/15/2009 09:19 PM, Arvid Picciani wrote:

On 12/15/2009 07:37 AM, Jürgen Hagemann wrote:

The new TB update from today enables and installs lightning by default.
Bugreport: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17510?project=1pagenum=1
This is a bad idea, because some people don´t want it.
Mozilla doesn´t recommend to set the calendar flag on building...
Another point is, that the builtin calendar extension is not localized.
So, on non-english systems people have a language mix in TB...


http://hereticlinux.org/repo/i686/thunderbird-3.0-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz

no dbus, no gnomeui, no lightning
depds compatible with arch stable



thunderbird-3.0-3 has no gnomeui, no lightning.

--
Ionut


[arch-general] New Thunderbird build 3.0-2 installs lightning by default

2009-12-14 Thread Jürgen Hagemann
The new TB update from today enables and installs lightning by default.
Bugreport: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17510?project=1pagenum=1
This is a bad idea, because some people don´t want it.
Mozilla doesn´t recommend to set the calendar flag on building...
Another point is, that the builtin calendar extension is not localized.
So, on non-english systems people have a language mix in TB...
-- 
Regards
Juergen




Re: [arch-general] New Thunderbird build 3.0-2 installs lightning by default

2009-12-14 Thread David C. Rankin

On 12/15/2009 12:37 AM, Jürgen Hagemann wrote:

The new TB update from today enables and installs lightning by default.
Bugreport: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17510?project=1pagenum=1
This is a bad idea, because some people don´t want it.
Mozilla doesn´t recommend to set the calendar flag on building...
Another point is, that the builtin calendar extension is not localized.
So, on non-english systems people have a language mix in TB...


Yep,

	Got hit with it tonight myself. Scarred the heck out of me since it picked up 
my old lightning config. The strange part is that I have had lightning 
disabled for at least a year since updating tbird to version 2.x which broke 
lightning integration. Easiest way to handle it is to go to tool - add-ons - 
extensions and 'disable' or 'remove' lightning. I just disabled it for the 
time being. That got rid of the error message:


An error was encountered preparing the calendar located at 
moz-profile-calendar:// for use. It will not be available.


Error code: 0x80004005

Description

[Exception... Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) 
[mozIStorageStatement.reset]  nsresult: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) 
location: JS frame :: 
file:///usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0/extensions/%7Be2fd4-76b-420-bd-a41df33103D/modules/calStorageUpgrade.jsm 
:: ensureUpdatedTimezones :: line 380  data: no]



--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
Telephone: (936) 715-9333
Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
www.rankinlawfirm.com