Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

2010-08-02 Thread Burlynn Corlew Jr
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:37 AM, David C. Rankin 
drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:

 Guys,

It is rare I go a week without some type of update. My last update
 was:

 [2010-07-25 04:49] upgraded wavegain (1.2.8-1 - 1.2.8-2)

 Looking at archdev-public, there is a 7/24 no more untiered mirrors post
 from Roman about the need to shut down mirrors. Is this what is behind no
 more updates for me? If so, what do I need to change in my mirror list,
 pacman.conf, etc. to make sure I can get updates again?

If it is just because Arch is perfect and there will no longer be a
 need for any updates -- I'm good with that too. Just let me know :p

 --
 David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
 Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
 510 Ochiltree Street
 Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
 Telephone: (936) 715-9333
 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
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https://www.archlinux.de/?page=MirrorStatus
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mirror
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_Guide#Mirrorcheck_for_up-to-date_packages

It is possible your current installed package list has had no updates, but
not likely. You would do all of us a favor by expanding your searches for
answers to farther than the mailing list.


Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

2010-08-02 Thread Robert Howard
I've noticed the same thing. No updates in a week. Very unusual for the
packages I use.

On Aug 2, 2010 3:17 AM, Burlynn Corlew Jr burl...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:37 AM, David C. Rankin 
 drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:

 Guys,

 It is rare I go a week without some type of update. My last update
 was:

 [2010-07-25 04:49] upgraded wavegain (1.2.8-1 - 1.2.8-2)

 Looking at archdev-public, there is a 7/24 no more untiered mirrors
post
 from Roman about the need to shut down mirrors. Is this what is behind no
 more updates for me? If so, what do I need to change in my mirror list,
 pacman.conf, etc. to make sure I can get updates again?

 If it is just because Arch is perfect and there will no longer be a
 need for any updates -- I'm good with that too. Just let me know :p

 --
 David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
 Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
 510 Ochiltree Street
 Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
 Telephone: (936) 715-9333
 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
 www.rankinlawfirm.com



 https://www.archlinux.de/?page=MirrorStatus
 http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mirror

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_Guide#Mirrorcheck_for_up-to-date_packages

 It is possible your current installed package list has had no updates, but
 not likely. You would do all of us a favor by expanding your searches for
 answers to farther than the mailing list.


Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

2010-08-02 Thread Peter Lewis
On Monday 02 Aug 2010 at 08:24 Robert Howard wrote:
 I've noticed the same
thing. No updates in a week. Very unusual for the
 packages I use.

This
thread just prompted me to check and yeah I hadn't had anything for at least
a few days. I just did a sort of Monte-Carlo test, by switching mirrors in
/etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist and suddenly got a whole load of updates.

For
reference, the mirror I was using (with no updates) was


http://www.mirrorservice.org/

and the one I switched to (with the
updates) was

http://ftp5.gwdg.de

HTH!

Pete.


Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

2010-08-02 Thread Kazuo Teramoto
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:33 AM, Peter Lewis p...@muddygoat.org wrote:
 thread just prompted me to check and yeah I hadn't had anything for at least
 a few days. I just did a sort of Monte-Carlo test, by switching mirrors in
 /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist and suddenly got a whole load of updates.

Well... we dont have so much mirrors so a monte carlo sampling is
needed, we can do it in a deterministic way

I use reflector for this, its choose mirrors by updatedness, and can
sort using rankmirrors

Kazuo
-- 
«Dans la vie, rien n'est à craindre, tout est à comprendre»
Marie Sklodowska Curie.


Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

2010-08-02 Thread Guillermo Leira
 -Mensaje original-
 De: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org [mailto:arch-general-
 boun...@archlinux.org] En nombre de Peter Lewis
 Enviado el: lunes, 02 de agosto de 2010 9:33
 Para: arch-general@archlinux.org
 Asunto: Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered
 mirror' thing?
 
 On Monday 02 Aug 2010 at 08:24 Robert Howard wrote:
  I've noticed the same
 thing. No updates in a week. Very unusual for the
  packages I use.
 
 This
 thread just prompted me to check and yeah I hadn't had anything for at
least
 a few days. I just did a sort of Monte-Carlo test, by switching mirrors in
 /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist and suddenly got a whole load of updates.
 
 For
 reference, the mirror I was using (with no updates) was
 
 
 http://www.mirrorservice.org/
 
 and the one I switched to (with the
 updates) was
 
 http://ftp5.gwdg.de
 
 HTH!
 
 Pete.

Mirrorservice.org has not given me any update for some days. I changed to
another mirror, and I'm receiving updates again. That mirror seems to be not
updating...

Best Regards,

Guillermo




Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

2010-08-02 Thread Peter Lewis
On Monday 02 Aug 2010 at 08:48 Kazuo Teramoto wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at
4:33 AM, Peter Lewis p...@muddygoat.org wrote:
  thread just prompted me
to check and yeah I hadn't had anything for at
  least a few days. I just
did a sort of Monte-Carlo test, by switching
  mirrors in
/etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist and suddenly got a whole load of
  updates.
 

Well... we dont have so much mirrors so a monte carlo sampling is
 needed,
we can do it in a deterministic way

Indeed :-) That's just me trying to
get an indicative result to show there's something to investigate. Or
laziness. Probably that, actually.

 I use reflector for this, its choose
mirrors by updatedness, and can
 sort using rankmirrors

Thanks for the
tip.

Pete.


Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

2010-08-02 Thread David C. Rankin

On 08/02/2010 02:17 AM, Burlynn Corlew Jr wrote:

https://www.archlinux.de/?page=MirrorStatus
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mirror
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_Guide#Mirrorcheck_for_up-to-date_packages

It is possible your current installed package list has had no updates, but
not likely. You would do all of us a favor by expanding your searches for
answers to farther than the mailing list.



Burlynn, thanks...

	I monitor this list and the arch-dev list. If there is something affecting the 
ability to update, I expect to see notice in one of those two places. I have 
added the MirrorStatus to my arch bookmarks, and looking at the list, none of my 
first configured mirrors are on the list anymore. Thus, pacman would check the 
old/'no longer updated' mirrors, find that there were no changes and quit 
without update. That's bad.


	So it seems that users who haven't seen updates in the past 4days - week, are 
probably bitten by the same issue. For the US, I added the following at the top 
of my mirror list:


# United States
Server = ftp://mirror.rit.edu/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64
Server = http://mirror.rit.edu/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64
Server = http://mirror.yellowfiber.net/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64

Before, manually adding the mirrors, I was using:

# United States
Server = ftp://mirror.cs.vt.edu/pub/ArchLinux/$repo/os/x86_64
Server = http://mirror.cs.vt.edu/pub/ArchLinux/$repo/os/x86_64
Server = http://mirrors.gigenet.com/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64
Server = 
ftp://ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64
Server = 
http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64

Server = ftp://mirrors.hosef.org/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64

When I checked for updates again, there were ~ 300M of updates ready.

--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
Telephone: (936) 715-9333
Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
www.rankinlawfirm.com


Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

2010-08-02 Thread Martín Cigorraga
Would be useful to put a script in cron using reflector to update mirrors
say, once a week?


Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

2010-08-02 Thread David Rosenstrauch

On 08/02/2010 06:44 PM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:

Notices did go out on one of the lists (forgot which one) that the new
tiered mirror scheme was coming into effect.


Link?  I don't recall seeing anything about that either here or on the 
Arch announcements list.


Thanks,

DR


Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

2010-08-02 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 22:38 -0400, David Rosenstrauch wrote:
 On 08/02/2010 06:44 PM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
  Notices did go out on one of the lists (forgot which one) that the new
  tiered mirror scheme was coming into effect.
 
 Link?  I don't recall seeing anything about that either here or on the 
 Arch announcements list.
 
 Thanks,
 
 DR

http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2010-July/017431.html

Which you could of course have found by reading the very first post that
started this thread in which he mentions the topic and that it was
posted on arch-dev-public.



[arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

2010-08-01 Thread David C. Rankin

Guys,

It is rare I go a week without some type of update. My last update was:

[2010-07-25 04:49] upgraded wavegain (1.2.8-1 - 1.2.8-2)

Looking at archdev-public, there is a 7/24 no more untiered mirrors post from 
Roman about the need to shut down mirrors. Is this what is behind no more 
updates for me? If so, what do I need to change in my mirror list, pacman.conf, 
etc. to make sure I can get updates again?


	If it is just because Arch is perfect and there will no longer be a need for 
any updates -- I'm good with that too. Just let me know :p


--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
Telephone: (936) 715-9333
Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
www.rankinlawfirm.com