Re: [arch-general] Off-topic: Good laptop to run Arch on?
On Tue, 25 May 2010 22:19:28 -0400 Gregory Eric Sanderson gzou2...@gmail.com wrote: I have a lenovo thinkpad T500 with optional intel 5100 AGN wireless card and HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-U20N dvd recorder, and overall i'm quite satisfied. But I did get a few quirks : - Graphics card is a switchable intel/ATI gpu, and I had to force the BIOS to only use either ATI or Intel. For what it's worth, GPU switching is currently being worked on. I'm not sure if it's in .34, but .35 seems to look good for it. You will still need to restart X, but rummaging around in the BIOS might soon be a thing of the past.
Re: [arch-general] Off-topic: Good laptop to run Arch on?
On 05/22/2010 09:33 AM, Magnus Therning wrote: [snip] What laptops should I have a look at? Is there some brand (Dell, HP, ...) that is more Linux friendly than others? /M I have an HP dv6 that works perfectly in Arch. After my first laptop, I realized (like some other people suggested) that you should go with Intel parts if possible, so my current laptop is pretty much 100% Intel (lspci is a big list of intel, with one broadcom at the bottom). My previous laptop had an nvidia graphics card, which worked perfectly but ran much hotter and has some minor things that annoy me (no KMS, driver doesn't get built with the kernel). Nvidia is a good choice if you plan to run games, but an Intel card can run compiz fine and might be easier to work with. The advantage of the Intel processor (Core2 Duo) is that it uses less power, runs cooler and works better with laptop-mode-tools (look it up in extra). I have a broadcom wireless card (Broadcom BCM4322), which is annoying during the initial install, but has worked perfectly since then (including 802.n support). Sound works perfectly with no work (intel's hda driver has worked fine in ALSA for a couple years -- be careful of this if you use a slower updating distro like Fedora/Debian). Bluetooth worked out of the box (on Arch, out of the box means after installing bluez), no idea what kind it is (not listed by lscpi or lsusb). Might be part of the broadcom stuff. Mine also came with a webcam, and it seems to work fine. I don't remember doing anything special to set it up, but don't quote me on that. The one I bought isn't available anymore, but here's the specs if you want it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834147934 -Brendan Long PS: I haven't tried the card reader or lightscribe support.
Re: [arch-general] Off-topic: Good laptop to run Arch on?
I have a lenovo thinkpad T500 with optional intel 5100 AGN wireless card and HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-U20N dvd recorder, and overall i'm quite satisfied. But I did get a few quirks : - Graphics card is a switchable intel/ATI gpu, and I had to force the BIOS to only use either ATI or Intel. The open-source drivers don't support the ATI model yet, so I had to go with catalyst which has caused pains each time that I want to upgrade xorg. I haven't tried out the intel card under linux, but from what I read its well supported. -ACPI volume buttons don't work out-of-the-box, had to configure a key event listener and use amixer -Sound when playing a DVD is awfully quiet compared with winDVD, even with the volume at max Otherwise the rest (webcam, wireless, suspend, SD card reader, etc) works fine - On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 5:30 PM, David Rosenstrauch dar...@darose.netwrote: On 05/22/2010 11:33 AM, Magnus Therning wrote: What laptops should I have a look at? Is there some brand (Dell, HP, ...) that is more Linux friendly than others? My work laptop, a Dell Precision M4400, runs Arch fine. Had to install a few extra kernel modules (e.g., broadcom-wl), but everything else got picked up automagically. HTH, DR -- All musicians are drug addicts, no question about it. The ecstasy we get during a concert is proof enough. yet there is a slight difference between us, the musicians, and the typical 'street-junkie'... Instead of consuming powder, we consume vibrations Will et/ou Gregory Eric Sanderson Turcot Temlett MacDonnell Forbes et/ou Touffa! :)
Re: [arch-general] Off-topic: Good laptop to run Arch on?
I have an Acer 4736ZG runs arch fine, nvidia graphic. test the machine with a ubuntu cd is a good idea. On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Gregory Eric Sanderson gzou2...@gmail.com wrote: I have a lenovo thinkpad T500 with optional intel 5100 AGN wireless card and HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-U20N dvd recorder, and overall i'm quite satisfied. But I did get a few quirks : - Graphics card is a switchable intel/ATI gpu, and I had to force the BIOS to only use either ATI or Intel. The open-source drivers don't support the ATI model yet, so I had to go with catalyst which has caused pains each time that I want to upgrade xorg. I haven't tried out the intel card under linux, but from what I read its well supported. -ACPI volume buttons don't work out-of-the-box, had to configure a key event listener and use amixer -Sound when playing a DVD is awfully quiet compared with winDVD, even with the volume at max Otherwise the rest (webcam, wireless, suspend, SD card reader, etc) works fine - On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 5:30 PM, David Rosenstrauch dar...@darose.net wrote: On 05/22/2010 11:33 AM, Magnus Therning wrote: What laptops should I have a look at? Is there some brand (Dell, HP, ...) that is more Linux friendly than others? My work laptop, a Dell Precision M4400, runs Arch fine. Had to install a few extra kernel modules (e.g., broadcom-wl), but everything else got picked up automagically. HTH, DR -- All musicians are drug addicts, no question about it. The ecstasy we get during a concert is proof enough. yet there is a slight difference between us, the musicians, and the typical 'street-junkie'... Instead of consuming powder, we consume vibrations Will et/ou Gregory Eric Sanderson Turcot Temlett MacDonnell Forbes et/ou Touffa! :) -- Arch Linuxer, Pythoner, Geek -- Blog: http://apt-blog.net
Re: [arch-general] Off-topic: Good laptop to run Arch on?
On 05/22/2010 11:33 AM, Magnus Therning wrote: What laptops should I have a look at? Is there some brand (Dell, HP, ...) that is more Linux friendly than others? My work laptop, a Dell Precision M4400, runs Arch fine. Had to install a few extra kernel modules (e.g., broadcom-wl), but everything else got picked up automagically. HTH, DR
Re: [arch-general] Off-topic: Good laptop to run Arch on?
Am Samstag 22 Mai 2010 schrieb Guilherme M. Nogueira: I have a Lenovo Y450 which runs arch x86_64 fine, except for a small problem with the lcd brightness control. Card reader, webcam, suspend and hdmi audio/video are ok. As subnotebook, i can recommend the acer 1810t, everything works fine, limitation is displaysize and missind dvd drive but the rest works all fine. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tp...@archlinux.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[arch-general] Off-topic: Good laptop to run Arch on?
It's that time for me again... my desktop is getting long in the tooth so I'm starting to look around for a replacement. This time I thought I'd also include laptops in my search. However, with laptops it's difficult to find out just how well they work with Linux. Are all the built-in devices, webcams, fingerprint scanners etc, fully supported? Is the power management (ACPI) fully supported? Etc, etc... In the past I've heard good things about Linux on IBM's ThinkPads. But I've heard some VERY bad things about getting Linux working well on Lenovo's recent models. So, I resort to ask for advice on this mailing list. What laptops should I have a look at? Is there some brand (Dell, HP, ...) that is more Linux friendly than others? /M -- Magnus Therning(OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus identi.ca|twitter: magthe signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-general] Off-topic: Good laptop to run Arch on?
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 04:33:36PM +0100, Magnus Therning wrote: It's that time for me again... my desktop is getting long in the tooth so I'm starting to look around for a replacement. This time I thought I'd also include laptops in my search. However, with laptops it's difficult to find out just how well they work with Linux. Are all the built-in devices, webcams, fingerprint scanners etc, fully supported? Is the power management (ACPI) fully supported? Etc, etc... In the past I've heard good things about Linux on IBM's ThinkPads. But I've heard some VERY bad things about getting Linux working well on Lenovo's recent models. So, I resort to ask for advice on this mailing list. What laptops should I have a look at? Is there some brand (Dell, HP, ...) that is more Linux friendly than others? /M -- Magnus Therning(OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus identi.ca|twitter: magthe I'd consider any Lenovo Thinkpad, except for SL series. There is a very friendly article about their drivers - http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Drivers . The only thing, that SL series has, and the other ones don't, is HDMI interface. So, if it's essential for you, then Thinkpads won't suffice.
Re: [arch-general] Off-topic: Good laptop to run Arch on?
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 04:33:36PM +0100, Magnus Therning wrote: It's that time for me again... my desktop is getting long in the tooth so I'm starting to look around for a replacement. This time I thought I'd also include laptops in my search. However, with laptops it's difficult to find out just how well they work with Linux. Are all the built-in devices, webcams, fingerprint scanners etc, fully supported? Is the power management (ACPI) fully supported? Etc, etc... In the past I've heard good things about Linux on IBM's ThinkPads. But I've heard some VERY bad things about getting Linux working well on Lenovo's recent models. So, I resort to ask for advice on this mailing list. What laptops should I have a look at? Is there some brand (Dell, HP, ...) that is more Linux friendly than others? /M -- Magnus Therning(OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus identi.ca|twitter: magthe I'm using a Lenoxo Thinkpad x200 and except for the fingerprint reader _everything_ works completely fine. -- Lukas Grässlin GnuPG-Key: http://lg.ath.cx/lukasgraess...@gmx.de.asc
Re: [arch-general] Off-topic: Good laptop to run Arch on?
Hmm...Get something which has Intel Wireless + Intel/Nvidia Graphics and Intel Chipset. These days almost all hardware is supported out of the box. it depends on your budget. While buying, take a Ubuntu Live CD with you and boot the laptop to check comparability. you can also cross-check support by running lspci and pasting output in Debian[1]. few more resources for your help. Ubuntu Laptop testing[2] Dell with Ubuntu factory installed[3] [1]http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ [2]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Reports [3]http://is.gd/ckHzH Hope it helps. Regards, Gaurish Sharma www.gaurishsharma.com 2010/5/22 Lukas Grässlin lukasgraess...@gmx.de: On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 04:33:36PM +0100, Magnus Therning wrote: It's that time for me again... my desktop is getting long in the tooth so I'm starting to look around for a replacement. This time I thought I'd also include laptops in my search. However, with laptops it's difficult to find out just how well they work with Linux. Are all the built-in devices, webcams, fingerprint scanners etc, fully supported? Is the power management (ACPI) fully supported? Etc, etc... In the past I've heard good things about Linux on IBM's ThinkPads. But I've heard some VERY bad things about getting Linux working well on Lenovo's recent models. So, I resort to ask for advice on this mailing list. What laptops should I have a look at? Is there some brand (Dell, HP, ...) that is more Linux friendly than others? /M -- Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus identi.ca|twitter: magthe I'm using a Lenoxo Thinkpad x200 and except for the fingerprint reader _everything_ works completely fine. -- Lukas Grässlin GnuPG-Key: http://lg.ath.cx/lukasgraess...@gmx.de.asc
Re: [arch-general] Off-topic: Good laptop to run Arch on?
On May 22, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Lukas Grässlin lukasgraess...@gmx.de wrote: I'm using a Lenoxo Thinkpad x200 and except for the fingerprint reader _everything_ works completely fine. Is it a Thompson reader? While I don't have it set up ATM, in the past I've used thinkfinger to successfully login thru [xkg]dm, on the terminal (sudo/su), and screensavers with my fingerprint... Pretty neat. C Anthony
Re: [arch-general] Off-topic: Good laptop to run Arch on?
I have a Lenovo Y450 which runs arch x86_64 fine, except for a small problem with the lcd brightness control. Card reader, webcam, suspend and hdmi audio/video are ok. -- Guilherme M. Nogueira Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. - Arthur C. Clarke
