Re: [arch-general] Proprietary nvidia driver for different kernels
Now I COMPLETELY understand the difference between switching form nvidia to nv or vice versa and switching from nvidia to nouveau and vice versa [1] ;). Regards, Ralf [1] # pacman -Syu nouveau-dri :: libgl and nvidia-utils are in conflict. Remove nvidia-utils? [y/N] y error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: lib32-nvidia-utils: requires nvidia-utils :: nvidia: requires nvidia-utils=304.43 # pacman -R nvidia lib32-nvidia-utils error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: google-earth: requires lib32-libgl :: lib32-mesa: requires lib32-libgl # pacman -Syu lib32-libgl :: lib32-libgl and lib32-nvidia-utils are in conflict. Remove lib32-nvidia-utils? [y/N] y Targets (4): lib32-nvidia-utils-304.43-1 [removal] tzdata-2012f-1 xf86-video-nouveau-1.0.2-1 lib32-libgl-8.0.4-4 # pacman -R nvidia # pacman -Syu nouveau-dri Targets (4): libdrm-nouveau1-2.4.33-1 libgl-8.0.4-3 nvidia-utils-304.43-1 [removal] nouveau-dri-8.0.4-2
Re: [arch-general] Proprietary nvidia driver for different kernels
On Sun, 2012-09-16 at 21:30 +0200, Joakim Hernberg wrote: Have you tried nouveau lately? It has improved a lot lately... Thank you :) indeed it works with the kernel-rt. I still have to test it a little bit longer and to check if audio production will be ok too, but until now it's ok for averaged desktop usage. Unfortunately I can't install nouveau-dri, since this conflicts with libgl and nvidia-utils and I'll use the proprietary driver with the standard kernel. Only drawback, after startup and when starting the Xfce session, the monitor relay is switching very often. The advantage is, that I don't need to readjust the monitor when switching between nouveau and nvidia. In the past nouveau only was a PITA, but now everything seems to be fine. Regards, Ralf
Re: [arch-general] Proprietary nvidia driver for different kernels
On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:27:04 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Unfortunately I can't install nouveau-dri, since this conflicts with libgl and nvidia-utils and I'll use the proprietary driver with the standard kernel. If I were you, I'd try nouveau all the way. only reason not to would be gaming. One thing I still have to check out though is if the support for vblank is working, otherwise it might have some tearing when watching video. But I agree, it's a pain switching between nvidia and nouveau, but I'd be inclined to blame nvidia itself for that...:) In any case it's nice to see that a opensource alternative to the closed nividia driver is available and working better all the time! -- Joakim
Re: [arch-general] Proprietary nvidia driver for different kernels
I don't play computer games. Perhaps I'll render 3D videos or use Google Earth. I'll give it a try and remove the proprietary driver. Watching videos and editing videos must be possible for my needs too. I was pissed off when the old nouveau driver didn't work for my machine and some distros already dropped the nv driver. If 3D should work with the kernel-rt, I don't need the standard kernel anymore, resp. perhaps I'll keep a second kernel for emergency cases. Hopefully the nouveau driver won't cause real-time issues. I guess I'll run a jack midi latency test later or tomorrow. In any case it's nice to see that a opensource alternative to the closed nividia driver is available and working better all the time! Unfortunately we only can use it until 21 December 2012 ;D. Regards, Ralf
Re: [arch-general] Proprietary nvidia driver for different kernels
On 17 Sep 2012 18:46, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: I don't play computer games. In any case it's nice to see that a opensource alternative to the closed nividia driver is available and working better all the time! Unfortunately we only can use it until 21 December 2012 ;D. Unfortunately I have to use nvidia drivers for CUDA programming.. I might get a specific card just for the CUDA stuff and still load the nouveau for xorg. I don't think its possible with just one GPU, is it? Switching from nvidia to nouveau using the scripts in the wiki for now. Regards, Ralf
Re: [arch-general] Proprietary nvidia driver for different kernels
Joakim Hernberg jbh at alchemy.lu writes: But I agree, it's a pain switching between nvidia and nouveau, but I'd be inclined to blame nvidia itself for that...:) Not their fault. But nevertheless, they are the ones trying to fix it: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2012-September/027295.html
Re: [arch-general] Proprietary nvidia driver for different kernels
On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 19:02 +0100, Leonidas Spyropoulos wrote: On 17 Sep 2012 18:46, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: I don't play computer games. In any case it's nice to see that a opensource alternative to the closed nividia driver is available and working better all the time! Unfortunately we only can use it until 21 December 2012 ;D. Unfortunately I have to use nvidia drivers for CUDA programming.. I might get a specific card just for the CUDA stuff and still load the nouveau for xorg. I don't think its possible with just one GPU, is it? Switching from nvidia to nouveau using the scripts in the wiki for now. I don't know. Btw. I was switching between nv and nvidia for several distros using a very primitive script: $ cat /etc/rc.d/69switch_xorg.conf #! /bin/sh # /etc/rcS.d/Switch_xorg_conf rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf case $(uname -r) in *rt*) cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf ;; *) cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf ;; esac At the moment nv is for nouveau. I didn't know those scrips: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA#Switching_between_nvidia_and_nouveau_drivers If I should use those scripts, I guess I would replace pacman -S, by pacman -U to install always the versions I know as being stable for my needs. Perhaps I only need nouveau, have no time to test it now, I'll watch The Simpsons at the moment ... commercial break finished ... Regards, Ralf Regards, Ralf
[arch-general] Proprietary nvidia driver for different kernels
Hi :) until now I switch between the FLOSS nv driver and the proprietary nvidia driver at startup, depending to the kernel I boot. IOW I use the nv driver with kernel-rt and the proprietary with 3.5.3-1-ARCH. If I try to boot the kernel-rt, I get a black screen. [spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi nvidia | grep Ver Version: 304.43-1 [spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi nvidia-rt | grep Ver Version: 304.43-1 [spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi nvidia-utils | grep Ver Version: 304.43-1 [spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi xf86-video-nv | grep Ver Version: 2.1.20-1 [spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ grep DAEMONS /etc/rc.conf # DAEMONS DAEMONS=(!69switch_xorg.conf hwclock syslog-ng !network !netfs crond acpid dbus networkmanager rtirq) Any ideas? The graphics is a GeForce 7200 GS. The nv driver is ok, but I have to readjust the monitor if I switch from nvidia and soon or later it will be dropped. The vesa driver won't provide the needed resolution and noveau
Re: [arch-general] Proprietary nvidia driver for different kernels
On Sun, 2012-09-16 at 21:30 +0200, Joakim Hernberg wrote: On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 20:35:57 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: ... nouveau never worked on my machine. Have you tried nouveau lately? It has improved a lot lately... That's a good question. $ pacman -Si xf86-video-nouveau Version: 1.0.1-1 Conflicts With : xorg-server1.11.99.902 Build Date : Tue Jun 19 03:43:40 2012 $ pacman -Qi xorg-server Version: 1.12.4-1 $ pacman -Qi libdrm Name : libdrm Version: 2.4.39-1 I don't know. I'll test it again. At least nouveau 0.0.15 and libdrm 2.4.21 for another outdated Linux don't work, but I'm sure I also tested newer versions. Regards, Ralf
