Re: [arch-general] Switching between Internet connections

2012-12-08 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:41:56 -0600
Leonid Isaev lis...@umail.iu.edu wrote:

  Is this behavior normal or a bug?  
 
 I think it is normal.

This discussion may shed some light on the bad reasoning likely behind
what you are experiencing as ipv6 overscoped on the back of one
necessity.

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=135110703125929w=2


[arch-general] Switching between Internet connections

2012-12-07 Thread Sudaraka Wijesinghe
Hello,

My laptop is connected to a LAN with Internet connection and it gets the
IP stuff (address, routing, dns) via dhcp using the default systemd
scripts on boot. I also have a 3G modem (USB) which I have created the
ppp scripts to connect based on the Wiki article
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/3G_and_GPRS_modems_with_pppd

Both connections work fine, except after switching to modem from LAN
some applications (pidgin, xchat, ect. which were running) still uses
the DNS nameserver from previous connection (LAN) meaning they still
trying to send DNS queries to LAN router (which is not reachable at that
time). This gets fixed after that application is closed and reopened.

Is this behavior normal or a bug?

Thanks.

P.S.

To disconnect/connect from LAN I either use:
 # systemctl stop dhcpcd@wlan0
 # systemctl start dhcpcd@wlan0
or
 # dhcpcd -k wlan0
 # dhcpcd wlan0

To disconnect/connect I use poff/pon commands and the scripts are setup
exactly as described on the Wiki.


-- 
Sudaraka Wijesinghe.




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Re: [arch-general] Switching between Internet connections

2012-12-07 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:02:12 +0530
Sudaraka Wijesinghe sudaraka.wijesin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 My laptop is connected to a LAN with Internet connection and it gets the
 IP stuff (address, routing, dns) via dhcp using the default systemd
 scripts on boot. I also have a 3G modem (USB) which I have created the
 ppp scripts to connect based on the Wiki article
 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/3G_and_GPRS_modems_with_pppd
 
 Both connections work fine, except after switching to modem from LAN
 some applications (pidgin, xchat, ect. which were running) still uses
 the DNS nameserver from previous connection (LAN) meaning they still
 trying to send DNS queries to LAN router (which is not reachable at that
 time). This gets fixed after that application is closed and reopened.
 
 Is this behavior normal or a bug?

I think it is normal. If you suspect DNS is the problem, just use a static
resolv.conf with google/comodo dns nameservers (add nohook resolv.conf
to /etc/dhcpcd.conf to forbid dhcpcd to touch the file).

 
 Thanks.
 
 P.S.
 
 To disconnect/connect from LAN I either use:
  # systemctl stop dhcpcd@wlan0
  # systemctl start dhcpcd@wlan0
 or
  # dhcpcd -k wlan0
  # dhcpcd wlan0
 
 To disconnect/connect I use poff/pon commands and the scripts are setup
 exactly as described on the Wiki.
 
 

So, you become root everytime you change network? If you need this kind
of dynamic connectivity, you'll be much better off using networkmanager...

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Re: [arch-general] Switching between Internet connections

2012-12-07 Thread Stefano Avallone
On Friday 07 December 2012 13:02:12 Sudaraka Wijesinghe wrote:
 Hello,
 
 My laptop is connected to a LAN with Internet connection and it gets the
 IP stuff (address, routing, dns) via dhcp using the default systemd
 scripts on boot. I also have a 3G modem (USB) which I have created the
 ppp scripts to connect based on the Wiki article
 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/3G_and_GPRS_modems_with_pppd
 
 Both connections work fine, except after switching to modem from LAN
 some applications (pidgin, xchat, ect. which were running) still uses
 the DNS nameserver from previous connection (LAN) meaning they still
 trying to send DNS queries to LAN router (which is not reachable at that
 time). This gets fixed after that application is closed and reopened.
 
 Is this behavior normal or a bug?

If I understood it correctly, it is normal. The applications you mention 
establish TCP connections using the IP address available at the time you 
launch them as the IP source address. If you later switch interface to 
connect to the Internet (and hence change your IP address), that address is no 
longer available and hence the TCP connection is broken. You can only restart 
the application, so that a new TCP connection is established using the new IP 
address.

There are solutions to such a problem (e.g., HIP - Host Identity Protocol), 
but they are not yet deployed.

Bests,
Stefano 




 Thanks.
 
 P.S.
 
 To disconnect/connect from LAN I either use:
  # systemctl stop dhcpcd@wlan0
  # systemctl start dhcpcd@wlan0
 
 or
 
  # dhcpcd -k wlan0
  # dhcpcd wlan0
 
 To disconnect/connect I use poff/pon commands and the scripts are setup
 exactly as described on the Wiki.