Re: [arch-general] What's with F# and mono?

2014-03-31 Thread Squall Lionheart
I found out that the F# Language Binding is available in the monodevelop
add-ins repository, but not for the version of Mono Develop that is in the
Arch Repos.  If you manually search for the F# language bindings here [1],
you will find it but are unable to download it.  I installed Xamarin Studio
on a Windows 7 machine and after hitting refresh on the Gallery tab, the
language binding show up.  I don't think this problem is the Arch package,
but a bug in the monodevelop add-in repositories.

[1] http://addins.monodevelop.com/

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Re: [arch-general] What's with F# and mono?

2014-03-28 Thread Squall Lionheart
>
> Great, there is hope then :)
>
> Do you happen to remember where you found that add-on for MonoDevelop?
> I can't seem to find one that can be downloaded AND plugged into MD.
>

I'm pretty sure that when I first set it up, I installed it from the Add-in
manager --> Language Bindings, but it's no longer there.  I did find this
[1], but the compile fails when I try it.  Let me know if you get it
working.


[1] https://github.com/fsharp/fsharpbinding


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Re: [arch-general] What's with F# and mono?

2014-03-27 Thread Magnus Therning
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:54:29AM -0600, Squall Lionheart wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Magnus Therning wrote:
> 
> > I'm just starting to dip my toes in the mono waters.  Slightly
> > prompted by my current situation at work.  In particular I'm
> > interested in F#, but I'm finding the whole situation around
> > mono/monodevelop + F# a bit confusing.
> >
> > 1. There are indications online that mono ships with F# [^1][^2].  But
> >the mono package in Arch doesn't include F#.  Looking at the
> >sources used to build the mono package there is no F# in sight.
> >Was it ever there?
> >
> > 2. The package on AUR[^3] for fsharp is rather outdated.  Not such a
> >big problem, the building received a lot of TLC so the package is
> >extremely simple to bring up-to-date.
> >
> > 3. Is there an F# add-in for monodevelop?  There seems to have been
> >one back in 2010, but it's not distributed any more, [^4].
> >However, other places say there is an add-in available, [^5]
> >(however, downloading fails).
> >
> > So, can anyone help me get a clearer picture of F# on mono (and
> > ArchLinux)?
> >
> > /M
> >
> > [^1]: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Nov-11.html - talking of
> > plans to include F# in mono.
> >
> > [^2]: http://is.gd/cNC5xb- - "F# is included in the standard Mono
> > release, but it's still missing from the MonoDevelop IDE."
> >
> > [^3]: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fsharp/
> >
> > [^4]: http://is.gd/YndnsA- - bug on F# add-in missing, closed for MD
> > 2.4, the last comment suggests it'd be re-opened
> >
> > [^5]: http://is.gd/YndnsA- which links to
> > http://addins.monodevelop.com/Project/Index/48
> 
> 
> I had this running in Arch using the packages from the standard
> repositories several months ago (new system since then).  I had to
> compile and install F# manually from [1].  If memory serves, I had
> to install an add-on/plug-in in mono develop for F# support to work.
> 
> [1] https://github.com/fsharp/fsharp

Great, there is hope then :)

Do you happen to remember where you found that add-on for MonoDevelop?
I can't seem to find one that can be downloaded AND plugged into MD.

/M

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Re: [arch-general] What's with F# and mono?

2014-03-26 Thread Squall Lionheart
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Magnus Therning wrote:

> I'm just starting to dip my toes in the mono waters.  Slightly
> prompted by my current situation at work.  In particular I'm
> interested in F#, but I'm finding the whole situation around
> mono/monodevelop + F# a bit confusing.
>
> 1. There are indications online that mono ships with F# [^1][^2].  But
>the mono package in Arch doesn't include F#.  Looking at the
>sources used to build the mono package there is no F# in sight.
>Was it ever there?
>
> 2. The package on AUR[^3] for fsharp is rather outdated.  Not such a
>big problem, the building received a lot of TLC so the package is
>extremely simple to bring up-to-date.
>
> 3. Is there an F# add-in for monodevelop?  There seems to have been
>one back in 2010, but it's not distributed any more, [^4].
>However, other places say there is an add-in available, [^5]
>(however, downloading fails).
>
> So, can anyone help me get a clearer picture of F# on mono (and
> ArchLinux)?
>
> /M
>
> [^1]: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Nov-11.html - talking of
> plans to include F# in mono.
>
> [^2]: http://is.gd/cNC5xb- - "F# is included in the standard Mono
> release, but it's still missing from the MonoDevelop IDE."
>
> [^3]: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fsharp/
>
> [^4]: http://is.gd/YndnsA- - bug on F# add-in missing, closed for MD
> 2.4, the last comment suggests it'd be re-opened
>
> [^5]: http://is.gd/YndnsA- which links to
> http://addins.monodevelop.com/Project/Index/48
>
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I had this running in Arch using the packages from the standard
repositories several months ago (new system since then).  I had to compile
and install F# manually from [1].  If memory serves, I had to install an
add-on/plug-in in mono develop for F# support to work.

[1] https://github.com/fsharp/fsharp

Thanks
Squall
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[arch-general] What's with F# and mono?

2014-03-25 Thread Magnus Therning
I'm just starting to dip my toes in the mono waters.  Slightly
prompted by my current situation at work.  In particular I'm
interested in F#, but I'm finding the whole situation around
mono/monodevelop + F# a bit confusing.

1. There are indications online that mono ships with F# [^1][^2].  But
   the mono package in Arch doesn't include F#.  Looking at the
   sources used to build the mono package there is no F# in sight.
   Was it ever there?

2. The package on AUR[^3] for fsharp is rather outdated.  Not such a
   big problem, the building received a lot of TLC so the package is
   extremely simple to bring up-to-date.

3. Is there an F# add-in for monodevelop?  There seems to have been
   one back in 2010, but it's not distributed any more, [^4].
   However, other places say there is an add-in available, [^5]
   (however, downloading fails).

So, can anyone help me get a clearer picture of F# on mono (and
ArchLinux)?

/M

[^1]: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Nov-11.html - talking of
plans to include F# in mono.

[^2]: http://is.gd/cNC5xb- - "F# is included in the standard Mono
release, but it's still missing from the MonoDevelop IDE."

[^3]: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fsharp/

[^4]: http://is.gd/YndnsA- - bug on F# add-in missing, closed for MD
2.4, the last comment suggests it'd be re-opened

[^5]: http://is.gd/YndnsA- which links to
http://addins.monodevelop.com/Project/Index/48

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programmers have strong expectations about what programs should look like,
and when those expectations are violated--in seemingly innocuous
ways--their performance drops drastically.
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