Re: [arch-general] Which browser to use? [was: Firefox user data autofill doesn't work as before]
On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 13:07:46 +0100, Peter Nabbefeld wrote: >Am 09.03.2017 um 12:52 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: >> On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 11:18:29 +0100, Martin Kühne via arch-general >> wrote: >>> I actually tried Vivaldi for a while. It's pretty cool for the >>> features it delivers out of the box, and it uses DDG by default. >>> However I found that Firefox' memory management turns out >>> preferable, since I had a few points where vivaldi would choke on >>> too many tabs. >> >> The OP is a little bit lazy. I launched opera and have taken a look >> for around 2 seconds at opera://settings/. >> >> opera://settings/ > Browser > Search >> >> Set which search engine is used when searching from the combined >> search and address bar >> >I'm not very sure, I tried this about a year ago ... I could replace >the search engine in one place, I think, but not in the other (IIRC >this has been for new tabs). It depends on what you actually want. You could disable the "Search box", but I don't know how to change it. As an example, you could add e.g. StartPage with a keyword to the address bar search, you could as well add the xquick (startpage) toolbar by an extension. But as defaults you perhaps only could select between the given defaults, Google, DuckDuckGo etc., but e.g. not StartPage. However, I only spend 1 minute with this, I'm not an expert, even not an user of nowadays Opera.
Re: [arch-general] Which browser to use? [was: Firefox user data autofill doesn't work as before]
Am 09.03.2017 um 12:52 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 11:18:29 +0100, Martin Kühne via arch-general wrote: I actually tried Vivaldi for a while. It's pretty cool for the features it delivers out of the box, and it uses DDG by default. However I found that Firefox' memory management turns out preferable, since I had a few points where vivaldi would choke on too many tabs. The OP is a little bit lazy. I launched opera and have taken a look for around 2 seconds at opera://settings/. opera://settings/ > Browser > Search Set which search engine is used when searching from the combined search and address bar I'm not very sure, I tried this about a year ago ... I could replace the search engine in one place, I think, but not in the other (IIRC this has been for new tabs). Regards P.
Re: [arch-general] Which browser to use? [was: Firefox user data autofill doesn't work as before]
On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 11:18:29 +0100, Martin Kühne via arch-general wrote: >I actually tried Vivaldi for a while. It's pretty cool for the >features it delivers out of the box, and it uses DDG by default. >However I found that Firefox' memory management turns out preferable, >since I had a few points where vivaldi would choke on too many tabs. The OP is a little bit lazy. I launched opera and have taken a look for around 2 seconds at opera://settings/. opera://settings/ > Browser > Search Set which search engine is used when searching from the combined search and address bar
Re: [arch-general] Which browser to use? [was: Firefox user data autofill doesn't work as before]
On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 09:19:48 +0100, Jelle van der Waa wrote: >On 03/09/17 at 08:23am, Peter Nabbefeld wrote: >> >> So, I wonder why Firefox is in a "preferred" registry (extra), while >> Opera is in "community" and Vivaldi is in "aur". > >Well it's not even Open Source software, so why would someone be happy >with a blob. The OP should consider to find a new browser, that fits most good to his needs. There are a lot of browsers available and a lot are open source.
Re: [arch-general] Which browser to use? [was: Firefox user data autofill doesn't work as before]
On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 08:23:06 +0100, Peter Nabbefeld wrote: >So, I wonder why Firefox is in a "preferred" registry (extra), while >Opera is in "community" and Vivaldi is in "aur". > >As far as I can see, Vivaldi is an Opera clone. I cannot see, how to >replace Google as a search engine in Opera - what about in Vivaldi? I don't know, you need to find out yourself. Most likely it's possible to replace search engines, but I've got a different workflow. I'm using search engines by loading their websites.
Re: [arch-general] Which browser to use? [was: Firefox user data autofill doesn't work as before]
2017-03-09 8:23 GMT+01:00 Peter Nabbefeld : [...] > So, I wonder why Firefox is in a "preferred" registry (extra), while Opera > is in "community" and Vivaldi is in "aur". That is how ArchLinux works: The developers are volunteers who choose for themselves which packages they maintain. Community is run by Trusted Users (also volunteers), Extra is for "official" developers. AUR is a sort-of public playground; anyone can publish PKGBUILDS there. If $dev decides to adopt Vivaldi for example, it might show up in Extra. If no dev decides to do this, then it won't show up in Extra either. mvg, Guus Snijders
Re: [arch-general] Which browser to use? [was: Firefox user data autofill doesn't work as before]
I actually tried Vivaldi for a while. It's pretty cool for the features it delivers out of the box, and it uses DDG by default. However I found that Firefox' memory management turns out preferable, since I had a few points where vivaldi would choke on too many tabs. cheers! mar77i
Re: [arch-general] Which browser to use? [was: Firefox user data autofill doesn't work as before]
On 03/09/2017 02:23 AM, Peter Nabbefeld wrote: > So, I wonder why Firefox is in a "preferred" registry (extra), while > Opera is in "community" and Vivaldi is in "aur". > > As far as I can see, Vivaldi is an Opera clone. I cannot see, how to > replace Google as a search engine in Opera - what about in Vivaldi? I really have no idea. Firefox makes me happy enough to not consider considering any other browser. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-general] Which browser to use? [was: Firefox user data autofill doesn't work as before]
On 03/09/17 at 08:23am, Peter Nabbefeld wrote: > > So, I wonder why Firefox is in a "preferred" registry (extra), while Opera > is in "community" and Vivaldi is in "aur". Well it's not even Open Source software, so why would someone be happy with a blob. -- Jelle van der Waa signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[arch-general] Which browser to use? [was: Firefox user data autofill doesn't work as before]
Am 09.03.2017 um 04:49 schrieb Eli Schwartz via arch-general: On 03/08/2017 10:07 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Ok I understand, https://aur.archlinux.org/login/ is an insecure web site, since the issue mentioned by the OP happens with this login. However, for my taste it's not a problem to select the user name, but this history problem is an issue for me, as well as the safebrowsing that gets added, even if you removed it. Some of many issues, that are reason for me to use other web browsers. Could you explain what's actually insecure with https://aur.archlinux.org/login/ ? It's a https page, not a http page. I cannot, in fact, explain what is insecure about https://aur.archlinux.org/login/ but this is probably because it works perfectly for me... You are dreaming. Please wake up. The history once upon a time worked as the history still works for nearly any other browser. Fortunately there are other browsers we could chose and a lot of people migrated to other browsers. It's not an unrelated rant, since the OP dislikes two changes, I try to explain that many users discontinued using Firefox. By the pulseaudio thread I already mentioned other firefox based and firefox alike projects. That web browser developers go different ways in general is not only an issue for firefox, that's why there's vivaldi ;). Yes, please let's answer the OP by telling him to find an alternative browser. Thanks for clearing that up, I was *wondering* what your post was getting at. :) However, in regards to security firefox would be the last browser I would use. Java script settings were removed [...] So, I wonder why Firefox is in a "preferred" registry (extra), while Opera is in "community" and Vivaldi is in "aur". As far as I can see, Vivaldi is an Opera clone. I cannot see, how to replace Google as a search engine in Opera - what about in Vivaldi? Kind regards Peter
