Re: [arch-general] Why are financial contributions not accepted?
2011/5/1 Cédric Girard girard.ced...@gmail.com On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Seblu se...@seblu.net wrote: What about create a association elsewhere in the world where it can be less expensive? In France, we have an association law 1901 (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_loi_de_1901) which allow a no taxes status. I was also thinking about this. But I think it implies the person who is responsible against the law has an address in France, and/or is French. -- Cédric Girard Have we considered joining SPI? They are an existing non-profit that allows people to donate to SPI and specify the open source project that they want the money to go to. It was set up by Debian to solve the same problem we are having. Arch would definitely fill the requirements for a joining member, we would be able to accept donations with a tax write off, and all we have to do it have an Arch representative go to the meetings every now and then. http://www.spi-inc.org/
Re: [arch-general] Why are financial contributions not accepted?
On 01/05/11 15:35, Johannes Held wrote: On 01.05.2011 04:13, Ray Kohler wrote: I also have donated in the past, and would do so again if it were made possible. What about a normal bank transfer to one of Arch's core maintainers? That would have taxation implications for that developer. Allan
Re: [arch-general] Why are financial contributions not accepted?
Excerpts from Ray Kohler's message of 2011-04-30 22:13:24 -0400: The donations were done via PayPal and those in charge decided PayPal wasn't trustworthy for use by non-profit organizations who don't have official government non-profit status. Have the leadership of Arch considered applying for official non-profit status or joining an organization such as the Software Freedom Conservancy[1]? [1]: http://sfconservancy.org/overview/ -- David Campbell
Re: [arch-general] Why are financial contributions not accepted?
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 3:30 AM, David Campbell davek...@archlinux.uswrote: Excerpts from Ray Kohler's message of 2011-04-30 22:13:24 -0400: The donations were done via PayPal and those in charge decided PayPal wasn't trustworthy for use by non-profit organizations who don't have official government non-profit status. Have the leadership of Arch considered applying for official non-profit status or joining an organization such as the Software Freedom Conservancy[1]? [1]: http://sfconservancy.org/overview/ I had a friend offer to help Arch become 501(c)3 a while ago; but that is an expensive and involved process (usually a couple thousand dollars and a couple hundred hours of work). I think joining the conservancy would be a great move for tax reasons. --Kaiting. -- Kiwis and Limes: http://kaitocracy.blogspot.com/
Re: [arch-general] Why are financial contributions not accepted?
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 2:39 AM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote: On 01/05/11 15:35, Johannes Held wrote: On 01.05.2011 04:13, Ray Kohler wrote: I also have donated in the past, and would do so again if it were made possible. What about a normal bank transfer to one of Arch's core maintainers? That would have taxation implications for that developer. At least the US allows for something like $5,000 tax exempt in personal gifts each year. --Kaiting. -- Kiwis and Limes: http://kaitocracy.blogspot.com/
Re: [arch-general] Why are financial contributions not accepted?
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 3:19 AM, Kaiting Chen kaitocr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 2:39 AM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote: On 01/05/11 15:35, Johannes Held wrote: On 01.05.2011 04:13, Ray Kohler wrote: I also have donated in the past, and would do so again if it were made possible. What about a normal bank transfer to one of Arch's core maintainers? That would have taxation implications for that developer. At least the US allows for something like $5,000 tax exempt in personal gifts each year. --Kaiting. -- Kiwis and Limes: http://kaitocracy.blogspot.com/ I believe the amount was $11,000 for 2010, but I need to check. This is a serious problem, for a lot of reasons, especially that Arch could use some more money :). The server resources are limited, and having more resources would be great! I will check with my accountant as to the best solution for this problem, I think that the easiest solution would be legal formation of an entity that deferred taxation responsibilities away from guys like Aaron. I don't think that we need to become a 501(c)3. That can be very expensive for an organization like Arch, since it is not blatantly clear that we are a non-profit (They hand those out like candy to organizations that help children for instance, but it took the Linux Kernel Foundation years to get it, even though I would argue that Linux definitely helps children). But another organization format will almost certainly be cheaper (most legal business entities in the USA can be formed for less than $50) and most of what 501(c)3 buys you is letting your donors declare the donation to be tax exempt. -Thomas S Hatch
Re: [arch-general] Why are financial contributions not accepted?
What about Google Checkout? On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 3:19 AM, Kaiting Chen kaitocr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 2:39 AM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote: On 01/05/11 15:35, Johannes Held wrote: On 01.05.2011 04:13, Ray Kohler wrote: I also have donated in the past, and would do so again if it were made possible. What about a normal bank transfer to one of Arch's core maintainers? That would have taxation implications for that developer. At least the US allows for something like $5,000 tax exempt in personal gifts each year. --Kaiting. -- Kiwis and Limes: http://kaitocracy.blogspot.com/ I believe the amount was $11,000 for 2010, but I need to check. This is a serious problem, for a lot of reasons, especially that Arch could use some more money :). The server resources are limited, and having more resources would be great! I will check with my accountant as to the best solution for this problem, I think that the easiest solution would be legal formation of an entity that deferred taxation responsibilities away from guys like Aaron. I don't think that we need to become a 501(c)3. That can be very expensive for an organization like Arch, since it is not blatantly clear that we are a non-profit (They hand those out like candy to organizations that help children for instance, but it took the Linux Kernel Foundation years to get it, even though I would argue that Linux definitely helps children). But another organization format will almost certainly be cheaper (most legal business entities in the USA can be formed for less than $50) and most of what 501(c)3 buys you is letting your donors declare the donation to be tax exempt. -Thomas S Hatch -- Martin No manden archivos por mail, usen DropBoxhttps://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTIwODk0MDk . 2GB + 250MB bonus de almacenamiento gratis online.
Re: [arch-general] Why are financial contributions not accepted?
Le samedi 30 avril 2011 à 22:13 -0400, Ray Kohler a écrit : The donations were done via PayPal and those in charge decided PayPal wasn't trustworthy for use by non-profit organizations who don't have official government non-profit status. The last time I donated was via Flattr. Not just a simple Flattr. You can donate the amount you wish with Flattr. but I guess not everyone got a Flattr account.
Re: [arch-general] Why are financial contributions not accepted?
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 3:19 AM, Kaiting Chen kaitocr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 2:39 AM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote: On 01/05/11 15:35, Johannes Held wrote: On 01.05.2011 04:13, Ray Kohler wrote: I also have donated in the past, and would do so again if it were made possible. What about a normal bank transfer to one of Arch's core maintainers? That would have taxation implications for that developer. At least the US allows for something like $5,000 tax exempt in personal gifts each year. --Kaiting. -- Kiwis and Limes: http://kaitocracy.blogspot.com/ I believe the amount was $11,000 for 2010, but I need to check. This is a serious problem, for a lot of reasons, especially that Arch could use some more money :). The server resources are limited, and having more resources would be great! I will check with my accountant as to the best solution for this problem, I think that the easiest solution would be legal formation of an entity that deferred taxation responsibilities away from guys like Aaron. I don't think that we need to become a 501(c)3. That can be very expensive for an organization like Arch, since it is not blatantly clear that we are a non-profit (They hand those out like candy to organizations that help children for instance, but it took the Linux Kernel Foundation years to get it, even though I would argue that Linux definitely helps children). But another organization format will almost certainly be cheaper (most legal business entities in the USA can be formed for less than $50) and most of what 501(c)3 buys you is letting your donors declare the donation to be tax exempt. What about create a association elsewhere in the world where it can be less expensive? In France, we have an association law 1901 (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_loi_de_1901) which allow a no taxes status. Regards, -- Sébastien Luttringer www.seblu.net
Re: [arch-general] Why are financial contributions not accepted?
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Seblu se...@seblu.net wrote: What about create a association elsewhere in the world where it can be less expensive? In France, we have an association law 1901 (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_loi_de_1901) which allow a no taxes status. I was also thinking about this. But I think it implies the person who is responsible against the law has an address in France, and/or is French. -- Cédric Girard
[arch-general] Why are financial contributions not accepted?
It's not that I really have money to give away, but I was struck by the notice on the Arch web site that financial contributions are not currently accepted, although they have been in the past. Given that there has apparently been some discussion of lack of resources for the distro, it seems to me to be reasonable to ask why those of us who can't code can't try to provide a little relief and support for Arch's hard-working volunteers in other ways. -- Bill Day williamson@gmail.com
Re: [arch-general] Why are financial contributions not accepted?
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Bill Day williamson@gmail.com wrote: It's not that I really have money to give away, but I was struck by the notice on the Arch web site that financial contributions are not currently accepted, although they have been in the past. Given that there has apparently been some discussion of lack of resources for the distro, it seems to me to be reasonable to ask why those of us who can't code can't try to provide a little relief and support for Arch's hard-working volunteers in other ways. The donations were done via PayPal and those in charge decided PayPal wasn't trustworthy for use by non-profit organizations who don't have official government non-profit status. I also have donated in the past, and would do so again if it were made possible.
Re: [arch-general] Why are financial contributions not accepted?
On 01.05.2011 04:13, Ray Kohler wrote: I also have donated in the past, and would do so again if it were made possible. What about a normal bank transfer to one of Arch's core maintainers?
