Re: [arch-general] gmail and mailing list

2010-01-13 Thread Mauro Santos
On 01/13/2010 02:19 AM, Shridhar Daithankar wrote:
 On Wednesday 13 January 2010 01:55:40 Patrick Brisbin wrote:
 I've mine set to yes as well but I still don't get my own posts. Oh well,
  mutt to the rescue again:

   # cc myself when replying to an ML
   # note: with this, you can't :q! mid-compose to abort
   # instead, just :wq and abort from the compose menu
   unhook send-hook
   send-hook ~u push 'edit-cc,pbris...@gmail.comenter'
 
 Inspired from gmail conversations that include my own replies, I have set the 
 sent-mail folder to the inbox itself, in the kmail. Now everything is 
 properly 
 threaded including my own replies.
 
 Not to mention I don't have to maintain sentmail anymore. 
 

I don't use Gmail's web interface either, I fetch all messages through
pop and this gmail feature sort of breaks the threads.

I've been looking into this and there is an option in thunderbird (which
I use) to place replies in the folder of the message being replied to.
This should sort it out.


[arch-general] gmail and mailing list

2010-01-12 Thread Xavier
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Mauro Santos
registo.maill...@gmail.com wrote:
 P.S.: As a sidenote: Is it normal/intentional that I don't get my own
 mails back via the list? Or is this some weird GMail stuff?

 It's a gmail issue.

 I'm not sure if there is a setting or something like that, but i've
 noticed the same and also heard other people about it.


 mvg,
    Guus


 Same problem here, and they even know about it, they might as well
 provide some workaround or option to change it.

 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=6588


I don't understand how that is an issue. Why do you want to see your
own mails in the inbox ?
For each ML I subscribe to, I create a new label and a new filter, and
I set it to skip inbox and archive because I do not want ML to clutter
my inbox. Much better that way :)
But to each his own.
That said I think it's always better to have configure options and control.


Re: [arch-general] gmail and mailing list

2010-01-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Xavier shinin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Mauro Santos
 registo.maill...@gmail.com wrote:
 P.S.: As a sidenote: Is it normal/intentional that I don't get my own
 mails back via the list? Or is this some weird GMail stuff?

 It's a gmail issue.

 I'm not sure if there is a setting or something like that, but i've
 noticed the same and also heard other people about it.

 Same problem here, and they even know about it, they might as well
 provide some workaround or option to change it.

 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=6588


 I don't understand how that is an issue. Why do you want to see your
 own mails in the inbox ?
 For each ML I subscribe to, I create a new label and a new filter, and
 I set it to skip inbox and archive because I do not want ML to clutter
 my inbox. Much better that way :)
 But to each his own.
 That said I think it's always better to have configure options and control.

I see mine just fine in the Sent folder. I don't think mailman
actually sends a list mail to the original sender, does it?

Either way, they are threaded together when it becomes a conversation


Re: [arch-general] gmail and mailing list

2010-01-12 Thread Xavier
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote:

 I see mine just fine in the Sent folder. I don't think mailman
 actually sends a list mail to the original sender, does it?

 Either way, they are threaded together when it becomes a conversation


It is apparently a mailman option.

Receive your own posts to the list?
Ordinarily, you will get a copy of every message you post to the list.
If you don't want to receive this copy, set this option to No. 

It was set to yes for me, that was probably the default, I don't
remember ever changing that.


Re: [arch-general] gmail and mailing list

2010-01-12 Thread Patrick Brisbin
On 01/12/10 at 07:57pm, Xavier wrote:
 It was set to yes for me, that was probably the default, I don't
 remember ever changing that.

I've mine set to yes as well but I still don't get my own posts. Oh well, mutt
to the rescue again:

  # cc myself when replying to an ML
  # note: with this, you can't :q! mid-compose to abort
  # instead, just :wq and abort from the compose menu
  unhook send-hook
  send-hook ~u push 'edit-cc,pbris...@gmail.comenter'

-- 
patrick brisbin


Re: [arch-general] gmail and mailing list

2010-01-12 Thread Damjan Georgievski
 It was set to yes for me, that was probably the default, I don't
 remember ever changing that.

 I've mine set to yes as well but I still don't get my own posts.

afaik Google filters them probably thinking it's a loop or something



-- 
damjan


Re: [arch-general] gmail and mailing list

2010-01-12 Thread Shridhar Daithankar
On Wednesday 13 January 2010 01:55:40 Patrick Brisbin wrote:
 I've mine set to yes as well but I still don't get my own posts. Oh well,
  mutt to the rescue again:
 
   # cc myself when replying to an ML
   # note: with this, you can't :q! mid-compose to abort
   # instead, just :wq and abort from the compose menu
   unhook send-hook
   send-hook ~u push 'edit-cc,pbris...@gmail.comenter'

Inspired from gmail conversations that include my own replies, I have set the 
sent-mail folder to the inbox itself, in the kmail. Now everything is properly 
threaded including my own replies.

Not to mention I don't have to maintain sentmail anymore. 

-- 
 Shridhar


Re: [arch-general] gmail and mailing list

2010-01-12 Thread Sergey Manucharian
Excerpts from Alexander Duscheleit's message of Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:11
+0100:

 I don't use GMails web interface, i just pull all my mail from there
 via IMAP and it's sorted on my local server via sieve/dovecot together
 with a bunch of other accounts.
 This feature thus destroys threads for me, and I never know, if a
 mail actually has reached the ML (my connection tends to be flaky at
 times) until somebody replies to it.

The same is here - I use claws-mail and want (having all the threads
to be complete) to make sure that my message gets the destination. I've
just tried to create a filter (at gmail) to label it (there is no a
filter option to move/keep to/in inbox) - let's see if it effects
something.

Cheers,
Sergey