[arch-general] ntp settings
Hi . I am trying to set the timezone up correctly and setup ntp to run . I have tried using System Settings in KDE but for some reason it does not accept the password . If i enter the password (root password) it reply's failed to Authenticate and greys everyting out for a few secondsi have sudo installed as that was suggeted as the problem on the previous install that crashed and burned what else is missing ntp is installed as well .. Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.2.2-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jan 26 08:40:20 CET 2012 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9600B Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
Re: [arch-general] ntp settings
On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 18:37 +, P Nikolic wrote: Hi . I am trying to set the timezone up correctly and setup ntp to run . I have tried using System Settings in KDE but for some reason it does not accept the password . If i enter the password (root password) it reply's failed to Authenticate and greys everyting out for a few secondsi have sudo installed as that was suggeted as the problem on the previous install that crashed and burned what else is missing ntp is installed as well .. Pete . Are you member of the group wheel? Did you setup sudo using visudo?
Re: [arch-general] ntp settings
On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 21:01 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 18:37 +, P Nikolic wrote: Hi . I am trying to set the timezone up correctly and setup ntp to run . I have tried using System Settings in KDE but for some reason it does not accept the password . If i enter the password (root password) it reply's failed to Authenticate and greys everyting out for a few secondsi have sudo installed as that was suggeted as the problem on the previous install that crashed and burned what else is missing ntp is installed as well .. Pete . Are you member of the group wheel? Did you setup sudo using visudo? You need to enter the users password (usually a user doesn't know the admins password ;) or simply set sudo not to ask for the password.
Re: [arch-general] ntp settings
PPS: kdesu? Than I suspect you need to use the root password.
Re: [arch-general] ntp settings
On Sunday 05 Feb 2012 21:01:04 Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 18:37 +, P Nikolic wrote: Hi . I am trying to set the timezone up correctly and setup ntp to run . I have tried using System Settings in KDE but for some reason it does not accept the password . If i enter the password (root password) it reply's failed to Authenticate and greys everyting out for a few secondsi have sudo installed as that was suggeted as the problem on the previous install that crashed and burned what else is missing ntp is installed as well .. Pete . Are you member of the group wheel? Did you setup sudo using visudo? Yes to wheel and no to visudo as i dont do vi now if you can joesudo or nanosudo then i can get there but vi no hope Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.2.2-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jan 26 08:40:20 CET 2012 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9600B Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
Re: [arch-general] ntp settings
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 08:31:11PM +, P Nikolic wrote: On Sunday 05 Feb 2012 21:01:04 Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 18:37 +, P Nikolic wrote: Hi . I am trying to set the timezone up correctly and setup ntp to run . I have tried using System Settings in KDE but for some reason it does not accept the password . If i enter the password (root password) it reply's failed to Authenticate and greys everyting out for a few secondsi have sudo installed as that was suggeted as the problem on the previous install that crashed and burned what else is missing ntp is installed as well .. Pete . Are you member of the group wheel? Did you setup sudo using visudo? Yes to wheel and no to visudo as i dont do vi now if you can joesudo or nanosudo then i can get there but vi no hope `VISUAL=nano visudo`. `VISUAL=joe visudo`. Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.2.2-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jan 26 08:40:20 CET 2012 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9600B Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
Re: [arch-general] ntp settings
On Sunday 05 Feb 2012 21:48:54 Lukas Fleischer wrote: On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 08:31:11PM +, P Nikolic wrote: On Sunday 05 Feb 2012 21:01:04 Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 18:37 +, P Nikolic wrote: Hi . I am trying to set the timezone up correctly and setup ntp to run . I have tried using System Settings in KDE but for some reason it does not accept the password . If i enter the password (root password) it reply's failed to Authenticate and greys everyting out for a few seconds i have sudo installed as that was suggeted as the problem on the previous install that crashed and burned what else is missing ntp is installed as well .. Pete . Are you member of the group wheel? Did you setup sudo using visudo? Yes to wheel and no to visudo as i dont do vi now if you can joesudo or nanosudo then i can get there but vi no hope `VISUAL=nano visudo`. `VISUAL=joe visudo`. Pete . yep sorted thanksjust me and vi do not mix at all never have never will same as i could never hang with edlin either i always use a TSR editor on dos Sidekickand joe on Linux Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.2.2-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jan 26 08:40:20 CET 2012 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9600B Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
Re: [arch-general] ntp settings
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 08:57:06PM +, P Nikolic wrote: On Sunday 05 Feb 2012 21:48:54 Lukas Fleischer wrote: On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 08:31:11PM +, P Nikolic wrote: On Sunday 05 Feb 2012 21:01:04 Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 18:37 +, P Nikolic wrote: Hi . I am trying to set the timezone up correctly and setup ntp to run . I have tried using System Settings in KDE but for some reason it does not accept the password . If i enter the password (root password) it reply's failed to Authenticate and greys everyting out for a few seconds i have sudo installed as that was suggeted as the problem on the previous install that crashed and burned what else is missing ntp is installed as well .. Pete . Are you member of the group wheel? Did you setup sudo using visudo? Yes to wheel and no to visudo as i dont do vi now if you can joesudo or nanosudo then i can get there but vi no hope `VISUAL=nano visudo`. `VISUAL=joe visudo`. Pete . yep sorted thanksjust me and vi do not mix at all never have never will same as i could never hang with edlin either i always use a TSR editor on dos Sidekickand joe on Linux Anyway, please consider consulting the appropriate man page (visudo(8) in this case) next time... Oh, and please read [1]. No offense, but this will help you get more feedback for sure. Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.2.2-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jan 26 08:40:20 CET 2012 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9600B Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux [1] http://tinyurl.com/4qcee
Re: [arch-general] ntp settings
Myself being a non-vi user, I find that visudo is hard for people used to nano. Besides, use of visudo is only critical for systems where no one knows the root password (default Ubuntu for example). If you know the root password and are on a generally single user system where there is no risk that two people would be modifying the sudoers file at the same time, don't be afraid to edit /etc/sudoers with nano. If you manage to break sudo, you can always fix it with su -c nano /etc/sudoers and by typing the root password. -- Sébastien Leblanc
Re: [arch-general] ntp settings
I use scite to edit sudoers) and it doesn't seem like work well and lets me save a file with errors. Where vi shall not -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Sébastien Leblanc leblancse...@gmail.com wrote: Myself being a non-vi user, I find that visudo is hard for people used to nano. Besides, use of visudo is only critical for systems where no one knows the root password (default Ubuntu for example). If you know the root password and are on a generally single user system where there is no risk that two people would be modifying the sudoers file at the same time, don't be afraid to edit /etc/sudoers with nano. If you manage to break sudo, you can always fix it with su -c nano /etc/sudoers and by typing the root password. -- Sébastien Leblanc
Re: [arch-general] ntp settings
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 05:21:47PM -0500, Sébastien Leblanc wrote: Myself being a non-vi user, I find that visudo is hard for people used to nano. Besides, use of visudo is only critical for systems where no one knows the root password (default Ubuntu for example). If you know the root password and are on a generally single user system where there is no risk that two people would be modifying the sudoers file at the same time, don't be afraid to edit /etc/sudoers with nano. If you manage to break sudo, you can always fix it with su -c nano /etc/sudoers and by typing the root password. visudo(8) does more than locking. It performs basic syntax checks after editing and tells you if (and where) any errors were found. It's the right tool for this job, so why bother with workarounds if using another editor is as simple as setting $VISUAL or $EDITOR (which you should do in your shell rc file anyway if you're not used to using vi(1))? Furthermore, it's pretty usual that only very few (to none) users know the root password, even if there's a larger number of privileged users. -- Sébastien Leblanc
Re: [arch-general] ntp settings
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 17:40, Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.de wrote: visudo(8) does more than locking. It performs basic syntax checks after editing and tells you if (and where) any errors were found. It's the right tool for this job, so why bother with workarounds if using another editor is as simple as setting $VISUAL or $EDITOR (which you should do in your shell rc file anyway if you're not used to using vi(1))? $EDITOR is already set in my .bashrc. I always tried to run it this way: ~ $ sudo visudo but it never worked. Even putting vars before invoking sudo does not work: ~ $ EDITOR=nano VISUAL=nano sudo visudo I just found out that sudo clears (at least some) environment variables and you have to put this variable after 'sudo'. ~ $ sudo EDITOR=nano visudo I did not use visudo because I never bothered trying to make it work with nano. Thanks to you, I now know how. -- Sébastien Leblanc
Re: [arch-general] ntp settings
On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 17:53 -0500, Sébastien Leblanc wrote: ~ $ sudo EDITOR=nano visudo Since you can't use sudo, as long as it isn't set, the best way is to go with the Wiki: The command is run as root: # EDITOR=nano visudo https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sudo ;) OT: On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 17:21 -0500, Sébastien Leblanc wrote: use of visudo is only critical for systems where no one knows the root password (default Ubuntu for example). $ sudo passwd root ;) Cheers! Ralf
