[arch-general] startup messages gone
There has been some recent change somewhere in the startup process that makes startup messages disappear once the process is completed and the login prompt appears. I had (and have) in /etc/initttab: c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -i -8 38400 tty1 linux I added the -i to prevent clearing the terminal, and it worked. Not any more. Not even with Shift+PageUp. Anyone knows what changed? TIA Jorge Almeida
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 00:33, Jorge Almeida jjalme...@gmail.com wrote: There has been some recent change somewhere in the startup process that makes startup messages disappear once the process is completed and the login prompt appears. I had (and have) in /etc/initttab: c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -i -8 38400 tty1 linux I added the -i to prevent clearing the terminal, and it worked. Not any more. Not even with Shift+PageUp. Anyone knows what changed? TIA Jorge Almeida There's a special character at the beginning of /etc/issue that clears the screen. Try removing that. ~Celti
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Patrick Burroughs celticmad...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 00:33, Jorge Almeida jjalme...@gmail.com wrote: There has been some recent change somewhere in the startup process that makes startup messages disappear once the process is completed and the login prompt appears. I had (and have) in /etc/initttab: c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -i -8 38400 tty1 linux I added the -i to prevent clearing the terminal, and it worked. Not any more. Not even with Shift+PageUp. Anyone knows what changed? TIA Jorge Almeida There's a special character at the beginning of /etc/issue that clears the screen. Try removing that. ~Celti https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Disable_Clearing_of_Boot_Messages
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Patrick Burroughs celticmad...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 00:33, Jorge Almeida jjalme...@gmail.com wrote: There has been some recent change somewhere in the startup process that makes startup messages disappear once the process is completed and the login prompt appears. I had (and have) in /etc/initttab: c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -i -8 38400 tty1 linux I added the -i to prevent clearing the terminal, and it worked. Not any more. Not even with Shift+PageUp. Anyone knows what changed? TIA Jorge Almeida There's a special character at the beginning of /etc/issue that clears the screen. Try removing that. FYI: All the special characters in /etc/issue will go away in the next filesystems release (as agetty deals with it now). Also, if you want to see what happened during boot, there is /var/log/boot Cheers, Tom
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On 09/27/2011 10:33 AM, Jorge Almeida wrote: There has been some recent change somewhere in the startup process that makes startup messages disappear once the process is completed and the login prompt appears. I had (and have) in /etc/initttab: c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -i -8 38400 tty1 linux I added the -i to prevent clearing the terminal, and it worked. Not any more. Not even with Shift+PageUp. Anyone knows what changed? TIA Jorge Almeida agetty(8) says: --noclear Do not clear the screen before prompting for the login name (the screen is normally cleared). So try that and let me know if it works (don't remove -i). I'm also interested in this but I can't reboot atm. -- cantabile Jayne is a girl's name. -- River
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:12:29PM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: FYI: All the special characters in /etc/issue will go away in the next filesystems release (as agetty deals with it now). Also, if you want to see what happened during boot, there is /var/log/boot Something remotely related for which I'd appreciate a solution: On one of the laptops I use, at some point during the boot sequence the display brightness is reduced to almost invisible. Any ideas of where to look to fix this ? TIA, -- FA
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
Excerpts from Fons Adriaensen's message of 2011-09-27 12:55:51 +0200: On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:12:29PM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: FYI: All the special characters in /etc/issue will go away in the next filesystems release (as agetty deals with it now). Also, if you want to see what happened during boot, there is /var/log/boot Something remotely related for which I'd appreciate a solution: On one of the laptops I use, at some point during the boot sequence the display brightness is reduced to almost invisible. Any ideas of where to look to fix this ? TIA, It could be a kernel bug with this specific laptop. When the display brightness control on my laptop didn't work I filed a bug at kernel.org, provided additional information and one or two kernel releases later it worked.
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
hey
this quick and minimalistic patch [1] to rc.{sysinit,single,multi}
here works to capture almost the complete boot output in per-script
manner in /bootlog. don't forget to mkdir /bootlog when you apply it.
use less -r to read them, and don't be irritated, it will change the
results for right-aligned output (like [DONE]). dmesg errors aren't
recorded, but those go to /var/log/dmesg.log anyway.
[1] http://ix.io/1Tx/diff
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Patrick Burroughs celticmad...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 00:33, Jorge Almeida jjalme...@gmail.com wrote: There has been some recent change somewhere in the startup process that makes startup messages disappear once the process is completed and the login prompt appears. I had (and have) in /etc/initttab: c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -i -8 38400 tty1 linux I added the -i to prevent clearing the terminal, and it worked. Not any more. Not even with Shift+PageUp. Anyone knows what changed? There's a special character at the beginning of /etc/issue that clears the screen. Try removing that. The -i makes the contents of /etc/issue irrelevant. That's why I put in /etc/inittab, although it's not the best solution. Thanks J.A.
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Disable_Clearing_of_Boot_Messages Thank you. It seems the behaviour of agetty changed. The --noclear option appears to be the relevant one. I think it wasn't there before, but I may be wrong. Jorge
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Jorge Almeida jjalme...@gmail.com wrote: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Disable_Clearing_of_Boot_Messages Thank you. It seems the behaviour of agetty changed. The --noclear option appears to be the relevant one. I think it wasn't there before, but I may be wrong. Jorge Yes, it's one of the new things. http://userweb.kernel.org/~kzak/util-linux-ng/ is still down, so you have to use 'man agetty' if you want to check other options.
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
FYI: All the special characters in /etc/issue will go away in the next filesystems release (as agetty deals with it now). Yes, that's really the point. Clearing or not the terminal, depending on the flag, seems the proper way to do it, rather than editing /etc/issue. Also, if you want to see what happened during boot, there is /var/log/boot Thanks. Jorge
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:30 AM, cantabile cantabile.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/27/2011 10:33 AM, Jorge Almeida wrote: agetty(8) says: --noclear Do not clear the screen before prompting for the login name (the screen is normally cleared). So try that and let me know if it works (don't remove -i). I'm also interested in this but I can't reboot atm. I can't reboot either, but I'm pretty sure you're right. I suppose the --noclear is new and was not advertised Thanks Jorge
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Jorge Almeida jjalme...@gmail.com wrote: I can't reboot either, but I'm pretty sure you're right. I suppose the --noclear is new and was not advertised Thanks Jorge Not sure if someone already posted this: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/25980
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
Not sure if someone already posted this: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/25980 That's it. I already rebooted and it comes out OK. --noclear is the option to use. J.A.
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Jorge Almeida jjalme...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure if someone already posted this: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/25980 That's it. I already rebooted and it comes out OK. --noclear is the option to use. Strange, it doesnt work for me :( here is what I have in /etc/inittab: c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty --noclear -8 -s 38400 tty1 linux
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:00 PM, SanskritFritz sanskritfr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Jorge Almeida jjalme...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure if someone already posted this: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/25980 That's it. I already rebooted and it comes out OK. --noclear is the option to use. Strange, it doesnt work for me :( here is what I have in /etc/inittab: c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty --noclear -8 -s 38400 tty1 linux Can you try without the -s? (I will not pretend that I understand the issues with gettys, but I think the default, whatever this means, does not have the flag, only the 38400 argument.) J.
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:00 PM, SanskritFritz sanskritfr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Jorge Almeida jjalme...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure if someone already posted this: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/25980 That's it. I already rebooted and it comes out OK. --noclear is the option to use. Strange, it doesnt work for me :( here is what I have in /etc/inittab: c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty --noclear -8 -s 38400 tty1 linux Did you remember to delete the special characters from /etc/issue ? -t
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: Did you remember to delete the special characters from /etc/issue ? Ah, you're right, I forgot about that. Now it works, thank you!
