Re: [arch-general] too many brick walls for graphical archlinux install

2020-01-06 Thread Jude DaShiell
I am pretty sure I got all of this figured out and it will likely need a
new install.
First install fenrir-screenreader not espeak.  Next install espeak-ng
and speech-dispatcher and gnome.
Once that's done get fenrir working then run spd-conf and take espeak-ng
and pulse for choices and do the tests.  If that works orca with gnome
ought to work.  espeak and espeakup do not work with spd-cay with
pulseaudio on the system and they're a command line interface dead end
by themselves as is festival.
I'll try doing this actual install to test and see if it will work and
post my findings here and if it does write something for the wiki a
little later.

On Mon, 6 Jan 2020, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 12:55:59
> From: Jude DaShiell 
> Reply-To: General Discussion about Arch Linux 
> To: arch-gene...@lists.archlinux.org
> Subject: Re: [arch-general] too many brick walls for graphical archlinux
> install
>
> I commented some lines out in /etc/pulse/client.conf and
> /etc/pulse/daemon.conf.  Next thing to try is install speech-dispatcher
> and festival and voices for festival and see if I can get spd-say talking.
> If so, that will mean the edits on those pulse files were adequate and
> then gnome and orca theoretically will install and work correctly using
> alsa.
> I read about a nopulse package on the arch bbs site in messages but
> couldn't find that on aur so decided to do some edits on the pulse
> configuration files.
> If I ever get this working, I'll probably get myself an arch account and
> write something for the wiki so others won't have to guess the way I have
> if they want to install gnome on archlinux and have orca talking.
>
>
>
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>

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Re: [arch-general] too many brick walls for graphical archlinux install

2020-01-06 Thread Justin Capella via arch-general
There is a distro that aims to do this, https://talkingarch.tk/

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020, 9:56 AM Jude DaShiell  wrote:

> I commented some lines out in /etc/pulse/client.conf and
> /etc/pulse/daemon.conf.  Next thing to try is install speech-dispatcher
> and festival and voices for festival and see if I can get spd-say talking.
> If so, that will mean the edits on those pulse files were adequate and
> then gnome and orca theoretically will install and work correctly using
> alsa.
> I read about a nopulse package on the arch bbs site in messages but
> couldn't find that on aur so decided to do some edits on the pulse
> configuration files.
> If I ever get this working, I'll probably get myself an arch account and
> write something for the wiki so others won't have to guess the way I have
> if they want to install gnome on archlinux and have orca talking.
>
>
>
> --
>


Re: [arch-general] too many brick walls for graphical archlinux install

2020-01-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf via arch-general
On Mon, 06 Jan 2020 18:10:24 +, mar77i via arch-general wrote:
>On Monday, January 6, 2020 6:55 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>> [...]
>> I read about a nopulse package on the arch bbs site in messages but
>> couldn't find that on aur so decided to do some edits on the pulse
>> configuration files.
>> [...]  
>
>I used to use `apulse`, a minimal layer that worked at least to have
>audio in firefox and other pulse-only applications. Once I wanted to
>activate my microphone in firefox, though, this setup did no longer
>work. I since installed pulse on my work laptop, while staying on alsa
>on my personal setups.

Hi,

apulse does not help to get rid of pulseaudio dependencies, you still
need a pulseaudio dummy package or to disable pulseaudio. It could be
helpful to use apps that require pulseaudio for audio, if pulseaudio
isn't installed.

I've got apulse installed, but stopped using it a while ago, since it
doesn't works without hiccups.

Btw. firefox from the extra repository is build with alsa and jack
enabled and doesn't require pulseaudio or apulse at all.

[rocketmouse@archlinux tmp]$ grep Features -A2
firefox/repos/extra-x86_64/PKGBUILD # Features
ac_add_options --enable-alsa
ac_add_options --enable-jack

Unfortunately firefox with jack and alsa support suffers from hiccups,
too. It's better to run google-chrome, since it doesn't suffer from
audio hiccups when using it with plain alsa.

I don't know if a "nopulse" package does exist. Assuming there should
be a "nopulse" package available, what does it provide?

Regards,
Ralf


Re: [arch-general] too many brick walls for graphical archlinux install

2020-01-06 Thread mar77i via arch-general
On Monday, January 6, 2020 6:55 PM, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
> [...]
> I read about a nopulse package on the arch bbs site in messages but
> couldn't find that on aur so decided to do some edits on the pulse
> configuration files.
> [...]

I used to use `apulse`, a minimal layer that worked at least to have audio in 
firefox and other pulse-only applications. Once I wanted to activate my 
microphone in firefox, though, this setup did no longer work. I since installed 
pulse on my work laptop, while staying on alsa on my personal setups.

cheers!
mar77i


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> I commented some lines out in /etc/pulse/client.conf and
> /etc/pulse/daemon.conf. Next thing to try is install speech-dispatcher
> and festival and voices for festival and see if I can get spd-say talking.
> If so, that will mean the edits on those pulse files were adequate and
> then gnome and orca theoretically will install and work correctly using
> alsa.
> If I ever get this working, I'll probably get myself an arch account and
> write something for the wiki so others won't have to guess the way I have
> if they want to install gnome on archlinux and have orca talking.
>
>
> --


Re: [arch-general] too many brick walls for graphical archlinux install

2020-01-06 Thread Jude DaShiell
I commented some lines out in /etc/pulse/client.conf and
/etc/pulse/daemon.conf.  Next thing to try is install speech-dispatcher
and festival and voices for festival and see if I can get spd-say talking.
If so, that will mean the edits on those pulse files were adequate and
then gnome and orca theoretically will install and work correctly using
alsa.
I read about a nopulse package on the arch bbs site in messages but
couldn't find that on aur so decided to do some edits on the pulse
configuration files.
If I ever get this working, I'll probably get myself an arch account and
write something for the wiki so others won't have to guess the way I have
if they want to install gnome on archlinux and have orca talking.



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