Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.
Guys, relax, we are all in the same wagon, it's a nonsense to make anything personal nor to demonstrate who has the bigger dick, fuck off all that shit. As some _DEVS_ had actually stated, let's discuss everything from a TECHNICAL point of view, arguing and ranting because personal dislikes of proposed new technology or procedures should not have a place here, there is a special section in our forums for that and even if you prefer ML you can create a new thread for your rants. Folks, we are suppose to be a community of geeks/nerds/hobbyst whatever else who happens to like IT, who happens to like and in many cases work with GNU/Linux and similar technologies AND -most important- who happens to fucking like Arch Linux because of every single other distro out there Arch is the only one that rocks our boat. So try to be constructive and if someone says something that upsets you please choose your words with care and re-read two or three times your emails before pushing Send because there's no way back afterwards. Let's act like adults (we're all grown ups here), not selfish idiots. Cheers, archers! -- -msx
Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.
On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 12:41 -0500, Leonid Isaev wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:07:29 +0200 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 18:54 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > L. Poettering takes photos from himself in front of the mirror (google!) > > > very often and publishes them by the Internet. I'm a pro-audio user. How > > > many pro-audio cards are working with PA? L. Poettering, the boy with > > > the same haircut as Bill Gates, blames the ALSA driver, but with jack > > > and ALSA there are no issues. > > Is there any relation between these 4 sentences? Hint: noone cares about your > random thoughts... > > > > > > > I don't like consolekit and systemd seems to improve this, anyway, ... > > > > > > Splitting /etc/rc.conf isn't bad per se and claiming that XP needs to be > > > restored/reinstalled every quarter of a year is nonsense. > > > > Resume: > > > > I don't like L. Poettering (I don't know him personally, so I might be > > completely wrong), I don't like pulseaudio (for good reasons), I don't > > have knowledge about systemd, but I'm willing to learn. > > Are you in the habit of not liking people you don't know? > > > > > What has got Windows to do with that? And why needs a Windows admin to > > reinstall it ever 3 month? An admin should fix issues. Many users are > > able to install it every 3 month them selfs. > > > > And what has all that to do with /etc/rc.conf splitting? > > > > And what does consolekit have to do with rc.conf? > You're right. It was my "broken English" way + personal impressions to mention, that this thread perhaps should be closed.
Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.
On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 14:27 -0300, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote: > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 14:13 -0300, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Ralf Mardorf > >> wrote: > >> > And what has all that to do with /etc/rc.conf splitting? > >> > >> And some people wonder why Arch devs don't read arch-general... > > > > I only can apologize for my relatively less spam, not for the tons of > > spam others already added. > > It's not meant to you directly. Your last sentence triggered the reply > I've kept for some time just for myself. I could elaborate, but I'm > not sure if the problematic people would really understand. Most of us are men ;). There's another thread, where somebody add a note to a simple logical fact (it seems so be a sub-thread of this thread) and he's right, since I don't like him, I don't add +1 :D. I might bite in my own ass, once I've to handle stuff that is in any kind (math, philosophy) irrational, just because of the proud not to add a +1. IMO there are no "problematic people", some of us, including myself (perhaps on other lists) sometimes overdo things a little bit. How cares? We are humans, we might sound like idiots on mailing lists, but a simple phone call sometimes (often?) could change our minds. - Ralf
Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.
On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:07:29 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 18:54 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > L. Poettering takes photos from himself in front of the mirror (google!) > > very often and publishes them by the Internet. I'm a pro-audio user. How > > many pro-audio cards are working with PA? L. Poettering, the boy with > > the same haircut as Bill Gates, blames the ALSA driver, but with jack > > and ALSA there are no issues. Is there any relation between these 4 sentences? Hint: noone cares about your random thoughts... > > > > I don't like consolekit and systemd seems to improve this, anyway, ... > > > > Splitting /etc/rc.conf isn't bad per se and claiming that XP needs to be > > restored/reinstalled every quarter of a year is nonsense. > > Resume: > > I don't like L. Poettering (I don't know him personally, so I might be > completely wrong), I don't like pulseaudio (for good reasons), I don't > have knowledge about systemd, but I'm willing to learn. Are you in the habit of not liking people you don't know? > > What has got Windows to do with that? And why needs a Windows admin to > reinstall it ever 3 month? An admin should fix issues. Many users are > able to install it every 3 month them selfs. > > And what has all that to do with /etc/rc.conf splitting? > And what does consolekit have to do with rc.conf? -- Leonid Isaev GnuPG key: 0x164B5A6D Fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 14:13 -0300, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Ralf Mardorf >> wrote: >> > And what has all that to do with /etc/rc.conf splitting? >> >> And some people wonder why Arch devs don't read arch-general... > > I only can apologize for my relatively less spam, not for the tons of > spam others already added. It's not meant to you directly. Your last sentence triggered the reply I've kept for some time just for myself. I could elaborate, but I'm not sure if the problematic people would really understand. -- A: Because it obfuscates the reading. Q: Why is top posting so bad? For more information, please read: http://idallen.com/topposting.html --- Denis A. Altoe Falqueto Linux user #524555 ---
Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.
On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 14:13 -0300, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote: > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > > And what has all that to do with /etc/rc.conf splitting? > > And some people wonder why Arch devs don't read arch-general... I only can apologize for my relatively less spam, not for the tons of spam others already added. Pardon, Ralf
Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > And what has all that to do with /etc/rc.conf splitting? And some people wonder why Arch devs don't read arch-general... -- A: Because it obfuscates the reading. Q: Why is top posting so bad? For more information, please read: http://idallen.com/topposting.html --- Denis A. Altoe Falqueto Linux user #524555 ---
Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.
On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 18:54 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > L. Poettering takes photos from himself in front of the mirror (google!) > very often and publishes them by the Internet. I'm a pro-audio user. How > many pro-audio cards are working with PA? L. Poettering, the boy with > the same haircut as Bill Gates, blames the ALSA driver, but with jack > and ALSA there are no issues. > > I don't like consolekit and systemd seems to improve this, anyway, ... > > Splitting /etc/rc.conf isn't bad per se and claiming that XP needs to be > restored/reinstalled every quarter of a year is nonsense. Resume: I don't like L. Poettering (I don't know him personally, so I might be completely wrong), I don't like pulseaudio (for good reasons), I don't have knowledge about systemd, but I'm willing to learn. What has got Windows to do with that? And why needs a Windows admin to reinstall it ever 3 month? An admin should fix issues. Many users are able to install it every 3 month them selfs. And what has all that to do with /etc/rc.conf splitting?
Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.
On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 16:12 +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > > > I am realistic and professional, because I speak from experience, like > > > > I said before more than 25 years. > > > > If the next employer you'll make an application should read this, you > > "was" an professional. > > > Is that a joke because I don't get it? I'd hire him, if I could afford > him! I'm kidding, not serious.
Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.
> > > I am realistic and professional, because I speak from experience, like > > > I said before more than 25 years. > > If the next employer you'll make an application should read this, you > "was" an professional. Is that a joke because I don't get it? I'd hire him, if I could afford him!
