Re: [arch-general] Anyway to tranlate installer?
gan lu wrote: I hope I can, or I will report a bug for tracking, thanks. Not being able to translate the installer into your language proper does not qualify as a bug. It would be best if you left the bug tracker for tracking serious, *real*, bugs - like systems that freeze for no apparent reason, slow video after a package upgrade etc... ~Just because you cannot do something.. do not think it impossible for another~ ;)
Re: [arch-general] Anyway to tranlate installer?
On Mon 2008-05-19 11:22 , Justin Gx wrote: gan lu wrote: I hope I can, or I will report a bug for tracking, thanks. Not being able to translate the installer into your language proper does not qualify as a bug. It would be best if you left the bug tracker for tracking serious, *real*, bugs - like systems that freeze for no apparent reason, slow video after a package upgrade etc... Indeed, it's a feature request ( http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10425 ) -- Alessio (molok) Bolognino Please send personal email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Public Key http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xFE0270FB GPG Key ID = 1024D / FE0270FB 2007-04-11 Key Fingerprint = 9AF8 9011 F271 450D 59CF 2D7D 96C9 8F2A FE02 70FB pgpkgOo4GwxZe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-general] Anyway to tranlate installer?
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:22 AM, Justin Gx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gan lu wrote: I hope I can, or I will report a bug for tracking, thanks. Not being able to translate the installer into your language proper does not qualify as a bug. It would be best if you left the bug tracker for tracking serious, *real*, bugs - like systems that freeze for no apparent reason, slow video after a package upgrade etc... ~Just because you cannot do something.. do not think it impossible for another~ ;) Yes, with notice from *Charles-Henri d'Adhémar (chicha)http://bugs.archlinux.org/user/1847 * , I reported a feature request instead :-0, see: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10425?project=1order=dateopenedsort=desc**. However this kind of discussion reminds me if I am thinking the way too much more from marketing or user's view?
Re: [arch-general] Anyway to tranlate installer?
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 12:48 AM, gan lu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 11:56 PM, gan lu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope I can, or I will report a bug for tracking, thanks. Right now the installer isn't really ready for translations. I'm sure it could be switched to gettext macros in the same way makepkg does it, but it's just not done yet. So I made a bug report [1], I hope this situation would be taken seriously by devs and improved quickly. I am making a list for i18n improvement for Archlinux, which is one of it. [1]:http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10425 It's a fact of open source software that things are only taken seriously if the contributor to the project NEEDS/WANTS it. I don't think i18n is a huge deal to any of our developers, so this won't come up as a high priority for any of us. That is not to say that i18n is *unimportant*. It most certainly is not. But I know for a fact that it will get done much faster by someone who actually cares about translations. My suggestion: find someone willing to write a patch for the installer who actually cares about i18n. If you expect the devs to do it themselves, then it will get done, just not as quickly as you'd expect, which may end up frustrating you. The installer has a git repo here: http://projects.archlinux.org/?p=installer.git;a=summary Find someone to patch in gettext macros (see makepkg for a good implementation), and it will get applied very quickly. Otherwise, we have much more pressing matters to spend our time on (i.e. getting out the next ISO)
Re: [arch-general] Anyway to tranlate installer?
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 01:02:43AM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote: It's a fact of open source software that things are only taken seriously if the contributor to the project NEEDS/WANTS it. I don't think i18n is a huge deal to any of our developers, so this won't come up as a high priority for any of us. That is not to say that i18n is *unimportant*. It most certainly is not. But I know for a fact that it will get done much faster by someone who actually cares about translations. My suggestion: find someone willing to write a patch for the installer who actually cares about i18n. If you expect the devs to do it themselves, then it will get done, just not as quickly as you'd expect, which may end up frustrating you. The installer has a git repo here: http://projects.archlinux.org/?p=installer.git;a=summary Find someone to patch in gettext macros (see makepkg for a good implementation), and it will get applied very quickly. Otherwise, we have much more pressing matters to spend our time on (i.e. getting out the next ISO) I just saw through the makepkg script, adding gettext support seems to be easy. I'll start work on it on the weekend. Regards, -- Abhishek Dasgupta http://abhidg.mine.nu GPG 67972DOF pgpkeys.mit.edu pgpiPHtKxPaKR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-general] Anyway to tranlate installer?
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Abhishek Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 01:02:43AM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote: It's a fact of open source software that things are only taken seriously if the contributor to the project NEEDS/WANTS it. I don't think i18n is a huge deal to any of our developers, so this won't come up as a high priority for any of us. That is not to say that i18n is *unimportant*. It most certainly is not. But I know for a fact that it will get done much faster by someone who actually cares about translations. My suggestion: find someone willing to write a patch for the installer who actually cares about i18n. If you expect the devs to do it themselves, then it will get done, just not as quickly as you'd expect, which may end up frustrating you. The installer has a git repo here: http://projects.archlinux.org/?p=installer.git;a=summary Find someone to patch in gettext macros (see makepkg for a good implementation), and it will get applied very quickly. Otherwise, we have much more pressing matters to spend our time on (i.e. getting out the next ISO) It's understandable, it's just over my capability to make a patch, I am not a programmer anyway, so I add a feature request in bug tracker for reminding. I just saw through the makepkg script, adding gettext support seems to be easy. I'll start work on it on the weekend. Great, thank you very much. Regards, -- Abhishek Dasgupta http://abhidg.mine.nu GPG 67972DOF pgpkeys.mit.edu
Re: [arch-general] Anyway to tranlate installer?
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 11:56 PM, gan lu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope I can, or I will report a bug for tracking, thanks. Right now the installer isn't really ready for translations. I'm sure it could be switched to gettext macros in the same way makepkg does it, but it's just not done yet. So I made a bug report [1], I hope this situation would be taken seriously by devs and improved quickly. I am making a list for i18n improvement for Archlinux, which is one of it. [1]:http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10425
