Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Tim Gelter
Tim Gelter wrote:
> Octavian Florea wrote:
>> Tim Gelter wrote:
>>> I appreciate the offer, but it'd be easy enough to do something like:
>>> alias firefox="killall firefox && firefox"
>>> What I'm looking for is an answer to why Firefox has this issue on arch,
>>> but not on other mainstream distros. Or am I really the only user
>>> experiencing this issue? (other than the couple of guys who responded
>>> saying that deleting a lock file or two solved the issue for them)
>> I experienced the same issues (in Kubuntu, though) when using
>> gtk-qt-engine. I switched to qtcurve and firefox closed normally.
> interesting. I too am using gtk-qt-engine. I'll get rid of it to see if
> that helps. For what it's worth, rather than using qtcurve, I'm going to
> use gtk-kde4-oxygen-theme instead.
> 
Well, it appears that Octavian tracked down the issue to gtk-qt-engine.
I'm not having trouble anymore since removing it. The question still
remains then, why does gtk-qt-engine cause trouble on Arch and not on
Ubuntu/Fedora? I suppose that's a question I'll have to bring up with
the kdemod developers. Thank you all for your help!
-Tim



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Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Tim Gelter
Octavian Florea wrote:
> Tim Gelter wrote:
>> I appreciate the offer, but it'd be easy enough to do something like:
>> alias firefox="killall firefox && firefox"
>> What I'm looking for is an answer to why Firefox has this issue on arch,
>> but not on other mainstream distros. Or am I really the only user
>> experiencing this issue? (other than the couple of guys who responded
>> saying that deleting a lock file or two solved the issue for them)
> I experienced the same issues (in Kubuntu, though) when using
> gtk-qt-engine. I switched to qtcurve and firefox closed normally.
interesting. I too am using gtk-qt-engine. I'll get rid of it to see if
that helps. For what it's worth, rather than using qtcurve, I'm going to
use gtk-kde4-oxygen-theme instead.



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Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Octavian Florea

Tim Gelter wrote:

I appreciate the offer, but it'd be easy enough to do something like:
alias firefox="killall firefox && firefox"
What I'm looking for is an answer to why Firefox has this issue on arch,
but not on other mainstream distros. Or am I really the only user
experiencing this issue? (other than the couple of guys who responded
saying that deleting a lock file or two solved the issue for them)
I experienced the same issues (in Kubuntu, though) when using 
gtk-qt-engine. I switched to qtcurve and firefox closed normally.


Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Tim Gelter
Andrei Thorp wrote:
> Excerpts from Tim Gelter's message of Mon Jul 20 11:18:38 -0400 2009:
>> Andrei Thorp wrote:
>>> Excerpts from Tim Gelter's message of Mon Jul 20 10:48:54 -0400 2009:
 Damien Churchill wrote:
> 2009/7/20 Dario :
>> Hi!
>>
>> In data lunedì 20 luglio 2009 06:48:00, Tim Gelter ha scritto:
>>> "Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new
>>> window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart
>>> your system."
>> Mmm I remember something like this happening on Windows (*cough*) 
>> machines at
>> school. The solution was to clear the hidden Application Data (or what is
>> called) folder under Documents and Settings. Here probably is something 
>> like a
>> lock file, I think.
>>
>> Ciao!
>>
>> Carotinho
>> Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale!
>>  http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com
>>
>>
> In ~/.config/mozilla/firefox/[profile] there will be 2 files, "lock"
> and ".parent_lock" that need to be removed, at least those are the
> offending 2 when this has happened to me.
 In my case, this isn't a lock file issue. As I explained in my email
 that triggered this thread, the firefox process does in fact continue
 running after I attempt to close firefox. It'll run (consuming very
 little resources) for as long as it takes (minutes, hours, whatever) for
 me to decide to launch firefox again. At this point, I must kill the
 existing firefox process before launching firefox once more. Again, this
 isn't a lock file issue in my case.
>>> I don't know what you issue is (though I don't find Firefox good in
>>> general), but I can provide you a way to automatically kill Firefox on
>>> firefox exit if you like...
>>>
>>> (just a wrapper shell script/alias)
>> I appreciate the offer, but it'd be easy enough to do something like:
>> alias firefox="killall firefox && firefox"
>> What I'm looking for is an answer to why Firefox has this issue on arch,
>> but not on other mainstream distros. Or am I really the only user
>> experiencing this issue? (other than the couple of guys who responded
>> saying that deleting a lock file or two solved the issue for them)
> 
> Yeah, I figured you'd know how to do this. I can't speak for everyone,
> but I have no such issues like this with Firefox personally, I'm sorry
> to say.

To whomever might have insight into what's happening, here is what
happens if I attach to the running firefox process after closing
firefox. I can also attach a trace of firefox from the beginning of
operation if that would help. If this is better meant to be included as
a bug report, I can certainly do that but I fear it'll be rejected as
"works for me" by a developer as it seems it only affects some of us.
#  ps -ef | grep -i firefox
tgelter   4688  4329  2 08:40 ?00:01:23 /usr/bin/firefox
root ~ #  strace -p 4688
Process 4688 attached - interrupt to quit
futex(0x7fea3538c0d0, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 2, NULL

^C 
Process 4688 detached



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Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Andrei Thorp
Excerpts from Tim Gelter's message of Mon Jul 20 11:18:38 -0400 2009:
> Andrei Thorp wrote:
> > Excerpts from Tim Gelter's message of Mon Jul 20 10:48:54 -0400 2009:
> >> Damien Churchill wrote:
> >>> 2009/7/20 Dario :
>  Hi!
> 
>  In data lunedì 20 luglio 2009 06:48:00, Tim Gelter ha scritto:
> > "Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new
> > window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart
> > your system."
>  Mmm I remember something like this happening on Windows (*cough*) 
>  machines at
>  school. The solution was to clear the hidden Application Data (or what is
>  called) folder under Documents and Settings. Here probably is something 
>  like a
>  lock file, I think.
> 
>  Ciao!
> 
>  Carotinho
>  Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale!
>   http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>> In ~/.config/mozilla/firefox/[profile] there will be 2 files, "lock"
> >>> and ".parent_lock" that need to be removed, at least those are the
> >>> offending 2 when this has happened to me.
> >> In my case, this isn't a lock file issue. As I explained in my email
> >> that triggered this thread, the firefox process does in fact continue
> >> running after I attempt to close firefox. It'll run (consuming very
> >> little resources) for as long as it takes (minutes, hours, whatever) for
> >> me to decide to launch firefox again. At this point, I must kill the
> >> existing firefox process before launching firefox once more. Again, this
> >> isn't a lock file issue in my case.
> > 
> > I don't know what you issue is (though I don't find Firefox good in
> > general), but I can provide you a way to automatically kill Firefox on
> > firefox exit if you like...
> > 
> > (just a wrapper shell script/alias)
> I appreciate the offer, but it'd be easy enough to do something like:
> alias firefox="killall firefox && firefox"
> What I'm looking for is an answer to why Firefox has this issue on arch,
> but not on other mainstream distros. Or am I really the only user
> experiencing this issue? (other than the couple of guys who responded
> saying that deleting a lock file or two solved the issue for them)

Yeah, I figured you'd know how to do this. I can't speak for everyone,
but I have no such issues like this with Firefox personally, I'm sorry
to say.
-- 
Andrei Thorp, Developer: Xandros Corp. (http://www.xandros.com)


Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Dan Vratil
On Monday 20 July 2009 17:18:38 Tim Gelter wrote:
> Andrei Thorp wrote:
> > Excerpts from Tim Gelter's message of Mon Jul 20 10:48:54 -0400 2009:
> >> Damien Churchill wrote:
> >>> 2009/7/20 Dario :
>  Hi!
> 
>  In data lunedì 20 luglio 2009 06:48:00, Tim Gelter ha scritto:
> > "Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new
> > window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart
> > your system."
> 
>  Mmm I remember something like this happening on Windows (*cough*)
>  machines at school. The solution was to clear the hidden Application
>  Data (or what is called) folder under Documents and Settings. Here
>  probably is something like a lock file, I think.
> 
>  Ciao!
> 
>  Carotinho
>  Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale!
>   http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com
> >>>
> >>> In ~/.config/mozilla/firefox/[profile] there will be 2 files, "lock"
> >>> and ".parent_lock" that need to be removed, at least those are the
> >>> offending 2 when this has happened to me.
> >>
> >> In my case, this isn't a lock file issue. As I explained in my email
> >> that triggered this thread, the firefox process does in fact continue
> >> running after I attempt to close firefox. It'll run (consuming very
> >> little resources) for as long as it takes (minutes, hours, whatever) for
> >> me to decide to launch firefox again. At this point, I must kill the
> >> existing firefox process before launching firefox once more. Again, this
> >> isn't a lock file issue in my case.
> >
> > I don't know what you issue is (though I don't find Firefox good in
> > general), but I can provide you a way to automatically kill Firefox on
> > firefox exit if you like...
> >
> > (just a wrapper shell script/alias)
>
> I appreciate the offer, but it'd be easy enough to do something like:
> alias firefox="killall firefox && firefox"
> What I'm looking for is an answer to why Firefox has this issue on arch,
> but not on other mainstream distros. Or am I really the only user
> experiencing this issue? (other than the couple of guys who responded
> saying that deleting a lock file or two solved the issue for them)

I experience this troubles too, no lock files, just process running even after 
closing FF's main window.
I have Arch64, FF 3.5.1

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Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Tim Gelter
Andrei Thorp wrote:
> Excerpts from Tim Gelter's message of Mon Jul 20 10:48:54 -0400 2009:
>> Damien Churchill wrote:
>>> 2009/7/20 Dario :
 Hi!

 In data lunedì 20 luglio 2009 06:48:00, Tim Gelter ha scritto:
> "Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new
> window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart
> your system."
 Mmm I remember something like this happening on Windows (*cough*) machines 
 at
 school. The solution was to clear the hidden Application Data (or what is
 called) folder under Documents and Settings. Here probably is something 
 like a
 lock file, I think.

 Ciao!

 Carotinho
 Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale!
  http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com


>>>
>>> In ~/.config/mozilla/firefox/[profile] there will be 2 files, "lock"
>>> and ".parent_lock" that need to be removed, at least those are the
>>> offending 2 when this has happened to me.
>> In my case, this isn't a lock file issue. As I explained in my email
>> that triggered this thread, the firefox process does in fact continue
>> running after I attempt to close firefox. It'll run (consuming very
>> little resources) for as long as it takes (minutes, hours, whatever) for
>> me to decide to launch firefox again. At this point, I must kill the
>> existing firefox process before launching firefox once more. Again, this
>> isn't a lock file issue in my case.
> 
> I don't know what you issue is (though I don't find Firefox good in
> general), but I can provide you a way to automatically kill Firefox on
> firefox exit if you like...
> 
> (just a wrapper shell script/alias)
I appreciate the offer, but it'd be easy enough to do something like:
alias firefox="killall firefox && firefox"
What I'm looking for is an answer to why Firefox has this issue on arch,
but not on other mainstream distros. Or am I really the only user
experiencing this issue? (other than the couple of guys who responded
saying that deleting a lock file or two solved the issue for them)



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Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Andrei Thorp
Excerpts from Tim Gelter's message of Mon Jul 20 10:48:54 -0400 2009:
> Damien Churchill wrote:
> > 2009/7/20 Dario :
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> In data lunedì 20 luglio 2009 06:48:00, Tim Gelter ha scritto:
> >>> "Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new
> >>> window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart
> >>> your system."
> >> Mmm I remember something like this happening on Windows (*cough*) machines 
> >> at
> >> school. The solution was to clear the hidden Application Data (or what is
> >> called) folder under Documents and Settings. Here probably is something 
> >> like a
> >> lock file, I think.
> >>
> >> Ciao!
> >>
> >> Carotinho
> >> Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale!
> >>  http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com
> >>
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > In ~/.config/mozilla/firefox/[profile] there will be 2 files, "lock"
> > and ".parent_lock" that need to be removed, at least those are the
> > offending 2 when this has happened to me.
> In my case, this isn't a lock file issue. As I explained in my email
> that triggered this thread, the firefox process does in fact continue
> running after I attempt to close firefox. It'll run (consuming very
> little resources) for as long as it takes (minutes, hours, whatever) for
> me to decide to launch firefox again. At this point, I must kill the
> existing firefox process before launching firefox once more. Again, this
> isn't a lock file issue in my case.

I don't know what you issue is (though I don't find Firefox good in
general), but I can provide you a way to automatically kill Firefox on
firefox exit if you like...

(just a wrapper shell script/alias)
-- 
Andrei Thorp, Developer: Xandros Corp. (http://www.xandros.com)


Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Tim Gelter
Damien Churchill wrote:
> 2009/7/20 Dario :
>> Hi!
>>
>> In data lunedì 20 luglio 2009 06:48:00, Tim Gelter ha scritto:
>>> "Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new
>>> window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart
>>> your system."
>> Mmm I remember something like this happening on Windows (*cough*) machines at
>> school. The solution was to clear the hidden Application Data (or what is
>> called) folder under Documents and Settings. Here probably is something like 
>> a
>> lock file, I think.
>>
>> Ciao!
>>
>> Carotinho
>> Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale!
>>  http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com
>>
>>
> 
> 
> In ~/.config/mozilla/firefox/[profile] there will be 2 files, "lock"
> and ".parent_lock" that need to be removed, at least those are the
> offending 2 when this has happened to me.
In my case, this isn't a lock file issue. As I explained in my email
that triggered this thread, the firefox process does in fact continue
running after I attempt to close firefox. It'll run (consuming very
little resources) for as long as it takes (minutes, hours, whatever) for
me to decide to launch firefox again. At this point, I must kill the
existing firefox process before launching firefox once more. Again, this
isn't a lock file issue in my case.



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Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Sascha Siegel

Thank you! This works fine!

Greetings :)

Am Jul 20, 2009 um 9:45 AM schrieb Damien Churchill:


2009/7/20 Dario :

Hi!

In data lunedì 20 luglio 2009 06:48:00, Tim Gelter ha scritto:

"Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new
window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or  
restart

your system."


Mmm I remember something like this happening on Windows (*cough*)  
machines at
school. The solution was to clear the hidden Application Data (or  
what is
called) folder under Documents and Settings. Here probably is  
something like a

lock file, I think.

Ciao!

Carotinho
Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale!
 http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com





In ~/.config/mozilla/firefox/[profile] there will be 2 files, "lock"
and ".parent_lock" that need to be removed, at least those are the
offending 2 when this has happened to me.




Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Damien Churchill
2009/7/20 Dario :
> Hi!
>
> In data lunedì 20 luglio 2009 06:48:00, Tim Gelter ha scritto:
>> "Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new
>> window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart
>> your system."
>
> Mmm I remember something like this happening on Windows (*cough*) machines at
> school. The solution was to clear the hidden Application Data (or what is
> called) folder under Documents and Settings. Here probably is something like a
> lock file, I think.
>
> Ciao!
>
> Carotinho
> Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale!
>  http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com
>
>


In ~/.config/mozilla/firefox/[profile] there will be 2 files, "lock"
and ".parent_lock" that need to be removed, at least those are the
offending 2 when this has happened to me.


Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-20 Thread Dario
Hi!

In data lunedì 20 luglio 2009 06:48:00, Tim Gelter ha scritto:
> "Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new
> window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart
> your system."

Mmm I remember something like this happening on Windows (*cough*) machines at 
school. The solution was to clear the hidden Application Data (or what is 
called) folder under Documents and Settings. Here probably is something like a 
lock file, I think.

Ciao!

Carotinho
Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale!
 http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com



Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-19 Thread Raeven K. Bathory
hmm, i could only trigger it once and when i attached to the process with
strace i saw it hung on EAGAIN
i quit the browser while watching a youtube video which sort of aligns with
the EAGAIN error


Re: [arch-general] Firefox on Arch - crash on exit

2009-07-19 Thread Jonas E. Huber
Hello all,

Am Montag, 20. Juli 2009 06.48:00 schrieb Tim Gelter:
> "Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new
> window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart
> your system."

I can confirm this problem using "normal" (not from kdemod) KDE 4 from 
the repos on a ThinkPad X61s with onboard Intel graphics (i.e. no 
proprietary driver) and a workstation as well (both running with 
x86_64).

Up to now I have never searched for a real solution to this one because 
I'm hardly running no instance of firefox and hence this glitch does not 
appear very frequently in my scenario. However, it would be nice if 
someone had figured out a fix... :-)

Cheers,

Jonas