Re: [arch-general] KDE4 Anyone?

2008-01-21 Thread Federico Manganelli
Il Monday 21 January 2008 02:27:27 Mark Constable ha scritto:
> On Monday 21 January 2008 10:58:25 Rodrigo Coacci wrote:
> > >  I build it from source from svn using kdesvn-build,
> > >  a great tool you can find here
> > > http://kdesvn-build.kde.org/
> > > It's very simple to configure and It will build every
> > > kde module you need installing it where you want. My
> > > kde4 installation is in /opt/kde4
> > > ...
> >
> > Interesting. I'll try it if I get some spare time.
>
> I just tried it and am now stuck at this point and no amount
> of googling is getting me a solution. I'm not soliciting any
> suggestions, wrong list for that, just pointing out it may
> not be such an easy path after all.
>
>  The QtDBus module cannot be enabled because libdbus-1
>  version 0.62 was not found. Turn on verbose messaging (-v)
>  to /home/laptop/Desktop/Devel/kdesvn/qt-copy/configure.new
>  to see the final report.
>
I had never built qt-copy with kdesvn-build, I commented it out in the config
and stay with default qt (4.3.3 now in extra) arch package. Never had 
problems.
I've also kdemod qt package installed but they don't interfere if you set the 
right environment.
I do source of this file after text login (no kdm here):
http://pastebin.ca/867293
to set the environment , then simply startx (pointing your .xinitrc to 
startkde)
I hope this will help someone else :-)
cheers








Re: [arch-general] KDE4 Anyone?

2008-01-20 Thread Mark Constable
On Monday 21 January 2008 10:58:25 Rodrigo Coacci wrote:
> >  I build it from source from svn using kdesvn-build,
> >  a great tool you can find here
> > http://kdesvn-build.kde.org/
> > It's very simple to configure and It will build every
> > kde module you need installing it where you want. My
> > kde4 installation is in /opt/kde4 
> > ...
> Interesting. I'll try it if I get some spare time.

I just tried it and am now stuck at this point and no amount
of googling is getting me a solution. I'm not soliciting any
suggestions, wrong list for that, just pointing out it may
not be such an easy path after all.

 The QtDBus module cannot be enabled because libdbus-1
 version 0.62 was not found. Turn on verbose messaging (-v)
 to /home/laptop/Desktop/Devel/kdesvn/qt-copy/configure.new
 to see the final report.

So there is this generic kdesvn-build solution, kdemod4
which will probably be usable rsn, some very old kde4-svn
packages in AUR, some 64bit packages from tanis but I
can't find the source packages.

Anyone else know of any other options ?

--markc



Re: [arch-general] KDE4 Anyone?

2008-01-20 Thread Rodrigo Coacci
On Jan 20, 2008 7:03 PM, Federico Manganelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Il Saturday 19 January 2008 21:52:04 Rodrigo Coacci ha scritto:
> > So have anyone got up and running with KDE4 on Arch? I know about kdemod
> > testing, but they miss some dependencies (tapioca-qt, strigi...), so to
> do
> > those by hand i'd prefer to do all myself :-P
> > Also, any ideas on when we'll get KDE4 on extra or even testing?
>
> I use kde4 for my box for two month as my desktop and I'm quite happy with
> it
> I like to see changes and improvement come up day by day, it's very
> interesting , and I do my works as well.
>  I build it from source from svn using kdesvn-build , a great tool you can
> find here
> http://kdesvn-build.kde.org/
> It's very simple to configure and It will build every kde module you need
> installing it where you want. My kde4 installation is in /opt/kde4
> and don't mess with pacman database since it's not packaged. :-)
> Since the stuff is all there if I want to remove it I simply delete that
> folder and start again.
> So , tweak your .kdesvn-buildrc as you want , build with
> kdesvn-build --debug kdesupport kdelibs kdepimlibs kdebase
> set up a correct environment for the user (better with a script in
> /etc/profile.d) and you're done with your kde4 experience.
> cheers
>
>
>
>
>
Interesting. I'll try it if I get some spare time.

-- 
Cheers,
 Rodrigo

A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open
windows.
  ~Linus Torvalds


Re: [arch-general] KDE4 Anyone?

2008-01-20 Thread Federico Manganelli
Il Saturday 19 January 2008 21:52:04 Rodrigo Coacci ha scritto:
> So have anyone got up and running with KDE4 on Arch? I know about kdemod
> testing, but they miss some dependencies (tapioca-qt, strigi...), so to do
> those by hand i'd prefer to do all myself :-P
> Also, any ideas on when we'll get KDE4 on extra or even testing?

I use kde4 for my box for two month as my desktop and I'm quite happy with it
I like to see changes and improvement come up day by day, it's very 
interesting , and I do my works as well.
 I build it from source from svn using kdesvn-build , a great tool you can 
find here
http://kdesvn-build.kde.org/
It's very simple to configure and It will build every kde module you need 
installing it where you want. My kde4 installation is in /opt/kde4
and don't mess with pacman database since it's not packaged. :-)
Since the stuff is all there if I want to remove it I simply delete that 
folder and start again.
So , tweak your .kdesvn-buildrc as you want , build with
kdesvn-build --debug kdesupport kdelibs kdepimlibs kdebase
set up a correct environment for the user (better with a script in 
/etc/profile.d) and you're done with your kde4 experience.
cheers






Re: [arch-general] KDE4 Anyone?

2008-01-20 Thread Rodrigo Coacci
On Jan 20, 2008 8:51 AM, Mark Constable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 20 Jan 2008 20:09, JJDaNiMoTh wrote:
> > http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174
> > KDE 4.0 != KDE4 ... and devs of arch know it :)
>
> This comment sums up the posting, which seems to be a bit
> of magnet for those who want to point how untidy the 4.0
> release was...
>
>  http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174#comment-7091
>
> The original canonical posting about 4.0, for anyone who
> might have missed it, is...
>
>  http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/01/talking-bluntly.html
>
> pacman 3.1.1 will be out in a few days (I presume) and that
> will help the next KDEmod4 release, KDE 4.0.1 will be out
> in maybe 2 weeks with a first round of fixes and Qt4.4 will
> be out in about 8 weeks and that will enable plasma to be
> far more complete around KDE 4.0.3.
>
> --markc
>
>
Well, from the kdemod thread it seems I'll have to upgrade arch to testing,
so I guess I'll stick with my Xfce for now...
Thanks everybody for the replies.

-- 
Cheers
 Rodrigo

A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open
windows.
  ~Linus Torvalds


Re: [arch-general] KDE4 Anyone?

2008-01-20 Thread Mark Constable
On 20 Jan 2008 20:09, JJDaNiMoTh wrote:
> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174
> KDE 4.0 != KDE4 ... and devs of arch know it :)

This comment sums up the posting, which seems to be a bit
of magnet for those who want to point how untidy the 4.0
release was...

 http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174#comment-7091

The original canonical posting about 4.0, for anyone who
might have missed it, is...

 http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/01/talking-bluntly.html

pacman 3.1.1 will be out in a few days (I presume) and that
will help the next KDEmod4 release, KDE 4.0.1 will be out
in maybe 2 weeks with a first round of fixes and Qt4.4 will
be out in about 8 weeks and that will enable plasma to be
far more complete around KDE 4.0.3.

--markc



Re: [arch-general] KDE4 Anyone?

2008-01-20 Thread JJDaNiMoTh
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:26:07 +0100
RedShift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Rodrigo Coacci wrote:
> > So have anyone got up and running with KDE4 on Arch? I know about kdemod 
> > testing, but they miss some dependencies (tapioca-qt, strigi...), so to 
> > do those by hand i'd prefer to do all myself :-P
> > Also, any ideas on when we'll get KDE4 on extra or even testing?
> > 
> > -- 
> > Cheers
> >  Rodrigo
> > 
> 
> 
> IMO KDE 4 is all but ready for production, from what I've heard even the 
> KDE developpers suggest waiting untill at least KDE 4.1 for it to be 
> actually usable.
> 
> Glenn
> 

http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174
KDE 4.0 != KDE4 ... and devs of arch know it :)

-- 
JJDaNiMoTh - ArchLinux Trusted User


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Re: [arch-general] KDE4 Anyone?

2008-01-19 Thread Mark Constable
On 20 Jan 2008 09:26, RedShift wrote:
> > So have anyone got up and running with KDE4 on Arch? I know about kdemod 
> > testing, but they miss some dependencies (tapioca-qt, strigi...), so to 
> > do those by hand i'd prefer to do all myself :-P

Aparently waiting on pacman 3.1.1, in a few days, to sort
out some dependency issues. Keep an eye on this thread...

 http://www.kdemod.ath.cx/bbs/viewtopic.php?id=406&action=new

> > Also, any ideas on when we'll get KDE4 on extra or even testing?
> 
> IMO KDE 4 is all but ready for production, from what I've heard even the 
> KDE developpers suggest waiting untill at least KDE 4.1 for it to be 
> actually usable.

It's usable to varying degrees right now and a lot of folks
are just keen to try it out. I've got a Kubuntu laptop and
even just using their KDE4 packages on top of 3.5.8 KWin
(without the plasma desktop) is a worthwhile experience.

--markc



Re: [arch-general] KDE4 Anyone?

2008-01-19 Thread RedShift

Rodrigo Coacci wrote:
So have anyone got up and running with KDE4 on Arch? I know about kdemod 
testing, but they miss some dependencies (tapioca-qt, strigi...), so to 
do those by hand i'd prefer to do all myself :-P

Also, any ideas on when we'll get KDE4 on extra or even testing?

--
Cheers
 Rodrigo




IMO KDE 4 is all but ready for production, from what I've heard even the 
KDE developpers suggest waiting untill at least KDE 4.1 for it to be 
actually usable.


Glenn



Re: [arch-general] KDE4 Anyone?

2008-01-19 Thread Marc Deop i Argemí
On Saturday 19 January 2008, Rodrigo Coacci wrote:
> So have anyone got up and running with KDE4 on Arch? I know about kdemod
> testing, but they miss some dependencies (tapioca-qt, strigi...), so to do
> those by hand i'd prefer to do all myself :-P

Have you tried Tardo's repo?

> Also, any ideas on when we'll get KDE4 on extra or even testing?

Not soon ;) Probably not untill 4.1 comes up




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Re: [arch-general] KDE4 Anyone?

2008-01-19 Thread wd
Seemes waiting KDE4.1 now?

2008/1/20, Rodrigo Coacci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> So have anyone got up and running with KDE4 on Arch? I know about kdemod
> testing, but they miss some dependencies (tapioca-qt, strigi...), so to do
> those by hand i'd prefer to do all myself :-P
> Also, any ideas on when we'll get KDE4 on extra or even testing?
>
> --
> Cheers
>  Rodrigo
>
> A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open
> windows.
>   ~Linus Torvalds