Re: [arch-general] Pacman, adding comments to the packages

2012-08-16 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Joker-jar joker...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello, I propose to add the ability to add comments to the packages in
 pacman. For example, sometimes you need to install packages as a optional
 or makedepend. I always do it with --as-deps key. Later, when you run
 pacman -Qdt to see and cleanup orphan packages you can't distinguish
 really orphan packages and packages installed via the reasons,
 describedabove. In
 this case comments to the packages could be very useful. Sorry fo my
 english :)

You should open a task in the bugtracker if there's no such request already.


Re: [arch-general] Pacman, adding comments to the packages

2012-08-16 Thread Chris Sakalis
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Karol Blazewicz
karol.blazew...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Joker-jar joker...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello, I propose to add the ability to add comments to the packages in
 pacman. For example, sometimes you need to install packages as a optional
 or makedepend. I always do it with --as-deps key. Later, when you run
 pacman -Qdt to see and cleanup orphan packages you can't distinguish
 really orphan packages and packages installed via the reasons,
 describedabove. In
 this case comments to the packages could be very useful. Sorry fo my
 english :)

 You should open a task in the bugtracker if there's no such request already.

Hello,
just a suggestion. Wouldn't tracking which packages where installed as
optional dependencies be better? There could be a --as-optdeps option
for example.

--Chris Sakalis


Re: [arch-general] Pacman, adding comments to the packages

2012-08-16 Thread Marek Otahal
Hi! 
that is a great idea. 

On Thursday 16 of August 2012 18:07:40 Chris Sakalis wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Karol Blazewicz
 karol.blazew...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Joker-jar joker...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello, I propose to add the ability to add comments to the packages in
  pacman. For example, sometimes you need to install packages as a optional
  or makedepend. I always do it with --as-deps key. Later, when you run
  pacman -Qdt to see and cleanup orphan packages you can't distinguish
  really orphan packages and packages installed via the reasons,
  describedabove. In
  this case comments to the packages could be very useful. Sorry fo my
  english :)
 
  You should open a task in the bugtracker if there's no such request already.
I believe I've seen the issue somewhere on forums or bug tracker, can't find it 
now though. 
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=53788 metapax on aur seems it might 
do the job, but the 
download link is dead now.. 
 
 Hello,
 just a suggestion. Wouldn't tracking which packages where installed as
 optional dependencies be better? There could be a --as-optdeps option
 for example.
I agree, my idea was: 
pacman -S --create-meta name [description] dependency[-version] [dep2 ...]

$ pacman -S --create-meta myproject pkg1 pkg2-1.3

which would call makepkg and create package named myproject with only 
pkgname=myproject
pkgdesc=blah
depends=('pkg1','pkg2=1.3')


Usecase: 
*nice handling of optdepends for packages you install
*handling of temporal projects: eg for school I work on several projects at 
once, 
say for music-work i need midi player, notation visualizer, mp32midi parser 
etc...all these 
have to be installed explicitly nowadays and after a month I don't know whatnot 
have been installed for the 
project and can be removed now. 
*cleaner system and explicitely installed pkgs: eg for a new cellphone, one 
wants a driver, filemanager, gps app etc - 
that all could be just in a my-android metapkg. 

Additional note:  A feature would be
pacman -S my-meta-pkg --add dep3
pacman -S my-meta-pkg --remove dep2


 
 --Chris Sakalis
Will you set up the feature request on bugtracker or should I? 

Have a nice day, Mark

-- 

Marek Otahal :o)


Re: [arch-general] Pacman, adding comments to the packages

2012-08-16 Thread Joker-jar
 just a suggestion. Wouldn't tracking which packages where installed as
 optional dependencies be better? There could be a --as-optdeps option
 for example.

Do not forget about makedepends. Often you can't remember for what package
you install something in the orphans list as makedepend, or it's just
orphan. By the way, it would be nice to know the origin of real orphans
(for example, who depend on them earlier).

2012/8/17 Marek Otahal markota...@gmail.com

 Hi!
 that is a great idea.

 On Thursday 16 of August 2012 18:07:40 Chris Sakalis wrote:
  On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Karol Blazewicz
  karol.blazew...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Joker-jar joker...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hello, I propose to add the ability to add comments to the packages in
   pacman. For example, sometimes you need to install packages as a
 optional
   or makedepend. I always do it with --as-deps key. Later, when you run
   pacman -Qdt to see and cleanup orphan packages you can't distinguish
   really orphan packages and packages installed via the reasons,
   describedabove. In
   this case comments to the packages could be very useful. Sorry fo my
   english :)
  
   You should open a task in the bugtracker if there's no such request
 already.
 I believe I've seen the issue somewhere on forums or bug tracker, can't
 find it now though.
 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=53788 metapax on aur seems it
 might do the job, but the
 download link is dead now..
 
  Hello,
  just a suggestion. Wouldn't tracking which packages where installed as
  optional dependencies be better? There could be a --as-optdeps option
  for example.
 I agree, my idea was:
 pacman -S --create-meta name [description] dependency[-version] [dep2 ...]

 $ pacman -S --create-meta myproject pkg1 pkg2-1.3

 which would call makepkg and create package named myproject with only
 pkgname=myproject
 pkgdesc=blah
 depends=('pkg1','pkg2=1.3')


 Usecase:
 *nice handling of optdepends for packages you install
 *handling of temporal projects: eg for school I work on several projects
 at once,
 say for music-work i need midi player, notation visualizer, mp32midi
 parser etc...all these
 have to be installed explicitly nowadays and after a month I don't know
 whatnot have been installed for the
 project and can be removed now.
 *cleaner system and explicitely installed pkgs: eg for a new cellphone,
 one wants a driver, filemanager, gps app etc -
 that all could be just in a my-android metapkg.

 Additional note:  A feature would be
 pacman -S my-meta-pkg --add dep3
 pacman -S my-meta-pkg --remove dep2


 
  --Chris Sakalis
 Will you set up the feature request on bugtracker or should I?

 Have a nice day, Mark

 --

 Marek Otahal :o)