Re: [arch-general] can not login after upgrade
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:12:23 +0300 Tasos Latsas wrote: > > Maybe this workaround could be added to the Archlinux home page news : > > systemd-tools, as it could avoid this issue to all users with a separate > > /usr ? > > This is documented here [1] and I don't think it was introduced in the > recent systemd-tools update but rather this was the case for some time > now [2]. If I'm not mistaken support for a separate /usr was enabled > around January in mkinitcpio Forgive me if this has been asked countless times and I'm guessing it's just a matter of someone picking up the code. Is there a reason other than coding it why there isn't a run sdiff on .pacnew pacman option flag which could then be followed automatically with mkinitcpio?
Re: [arch-general] can not login after upgrade
On 13/06/12 13:34, Arno Gaboury wrote: > On 06/12/2012 10:19 PM, Kacper Żuk wrote: [snip] > As I have /usr on a separate partition, following your instructions > solved my issue (the filesystem was not mounted at boot). > With a live CD, I edited /etc/mkinitcpio.conf and added usr shutdown to > the HOOKS line, then chroot, following the wiki, and run mkinitcpio -p > linux. > > Now I can login my box :-) > > Maybe this workaround could be added to the Archlinux home page news : > systemd-tools, as it could avoid this issue to all users with a separate > /usr ? This is documented here [1] and I don't think it was introduced in the recent systemd-tools update but rather this was the case for some time now [2]. If I'm not mistaken support for a separate /usr was enabled around January in mkinitcpio [3]. Cheers [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mkinitcpio#.2Fusr_as_a_separate_partition [2] http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2011-October/022376.html [3] http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2012-January/022401.html -- Tasos Latsas GPG key: 0x414301DF http://coderwall.com/tlatsas signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-general] can not login after upgrade
On 06/12/2012 10:19 PM, Kacper Żuk wrote: W dniu 12.06.2012 21:59, Arno Gaboury pisze: After some reading across the forum, I see I am not the only one with this issue. my /usr and /boot are both on a separate partition from /. It seems this cause the issue. As far as I can understand, the solution seems to add the Hook back and rebuilt the image. Is this correct?? How can I do that? Form a live cd? Or can I do anything from Ubuntu? If that's the issue, you can mount your root partition in Ubuntu, chroot to it (read Change Root article on archwiki), edit and run . As I have /usr on a separate partition, following your instructions solved my issue (the filesystem was not mounted at boot). With a live CD, I edited /etc/mkinitcpio.conf and added usr shutdown to the HOOKS line, then chroot, following the wiki, and run mkinitcpio -p linux. Now I can login my box :-) Maybe this workaround could be added to the Archlinux home page news : systemd-tools, as it could avoid this issue to all users with a separate /usr ?
Re: [arch-general] can not login after upgrade
i can't think of anything that arch isn't capable of doing... but i think that i'm just "stuck" with arch... you may be right! (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. (> <) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.) On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:01 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 23:25 +0300, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας wrote: > > i would advise you to have only Arch and just "deal with it" > > I would advice to use different distros, that fit best to different > usages/needs, if there should be different usages/needs. > > ;) > Ralf > >
Re: [arch-general] can not login after upgrade
On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 23:25 +0300, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας wrote: > i would advise you to have only Arch and just "deal with it" I would advice to use different distros, that fit best to different usages/needs, if there should be different usages/needs. ;) Ralf
Re: [arch-general] can not login after upgrade
Le 12. 06. 12 22:25, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας a écrit : i would advise you to have only Arch and just "deal with it" (hours and hours was eaten to just make something "the arch way") ... but it's out of the subject did you find any solutions? (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. (> <) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.) On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Arno Gabourywrote: Le 12. 06. 12 21:57, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας a écrit : oh yes, it's not mounted at all, that's why you can't see it from ubuntu (arch& ubuntu? how could you? :P) it's not a problem, just mount the boot partition to //boot and the /boot partition CAN'T be empty, because you can't login, but you actually boot! (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. (> <) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.) On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: On 12 June 2012 20:50, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας<01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: another guy had problems with his VPS... when he updated he lost any connection with the VPS do you have /boot on a separate partition? Indeed, and if it is on separate partition it's probably not getting mounted properly. May be issue with changes regarding using fstab/labels vs UUID. Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net As for Ubuntu and Arch on same machine, Ubutnu was a good way for me to learn. Once I felt comfortable, I switched to Arch, and NEVER LOOK BACK !! :-) But I am still a, let's say a n00b++, and this issue is puzzling me. Yes, /boot and /usr are not on the root /, and you are right, the boot CAN NOT be empty, it is just NOT mounted. It seems I can do everything from Ubuntu, but I am not so sure to know how. I will try to figure out, and LEARN, again and again... I do not want to flame, but let me give you an advise too : BOTTOM POST in the ML, it is much more easy to follow :-) Yes, I have a solution, follwoing Corentin Delcourt and Kacper Zuk answer : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Chroot If that's the issue, you can mount your root partition in Ubuntu, chroot to it (read Change Root article on archwiki), edit /etc/mkinitcpio.conf and run mkinitcpio -p linux. Never did it before, but will manage to achieve to solve this issue. Learning, again and again.
Re: [arch-general] can not login after upgrade
i would advise you to have only Arch and just "deal with it" (hours and hours was eaten to just make something "the arch way") ... but it's out of the subject did you find any solutions? (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. (> <) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.) On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Arno Gaboury wrote: > Le 12. 06. 12 21:57, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας a écrit : > >> oh yes, it's not mounted at all, that's why you can't see it from ubuntu >> (arch& ubuntu? how could you? :P) >> >> it's not a problem, just mount the boot partition to //boot >> and the /boot partition CAN'T be empty, because you can't login, but you >> actually boot! >> >> (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile >> (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. >> (> <) come join the dark side. >> /_|_\ (we have cookies.) >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Mateusz Loskot >> wrote: >> >> On 12 June 2012 20:50, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας<01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> another guy had problems with his VPS... when he updated he lost any connection with the VPS do you have /boot on a separate partition? >>> >>> Indeed, and if it is on separate partition it's probably not >>> getting mounted properly. >>> May be issue with changes regarding using fstab/labels vs UUID. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> -- >>> Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net >>> >>> > As for Ubuntu and Arch on same machine, Ubutnu was a good way for me to > learn. Once I felt comfortable, I switched to Arch, and NEVER LOOK BACK !! > :-) > But I am still a, let's say a n00b++, and this issue is puzzling me. > Yes, /boot and /usr are not on the root /, and you are right, the boot CAN > NOT be empty, it is just NOT mounted. > It seems I can do everything from Ubuntu, but I am not so sure to know > how. I will try to figure out, and LEARN, again and again... >
Re: [arch-general] can not login after upgrade
Le 12. 06. 12 21:57, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας a écrit : oh yes, it's not mounted at all, that's why you can't see it from ubuntu (arch& ubuntu? how could you? :P) it's not a problem, just mount the boot partition to //boot and the /boot partition CAN'T be empty, because you can't login, but you actually boot! (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. (> <) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.) On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: On 12 June 2012 20:50, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας<01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: another guy had problems with his VPS... when he updated he lost any connection with the VPS do you have /boot on a separate partition? Indeed, and if it is on separate partition it's probably not getting mounted properly. May be issue with changes regarding using fstab/labels vs UUID. Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net As for Ubuntu and Arch on same machine, Ubutnu was a good way for me to learn. Once I felt comfortable, I switched to Arch, and NEVER LOOK BACK !! :-) But I am still a, let's say a n00b++, and this issue is puzzling me. Yes, /boot and /usr are not on the root /, and you are right, the boot CAN NOT be empty, it is just NOT mounted. It seems I can do everything from Ubuntu, but I am not so sure to know how. I will try to figure out, and LEARN, again and again...
Re: [arch-general] can not login after upgrade
W dniu 12.06.2012 21:59, Arno Gaboury pisze: After some reading across the forum, I see I am not the only one with this issue. my /usr and /boot are both on a separate partition from /. It seems this cause the issue. As far as I can understand, the solution seems to add the Hook back and rebuilt the image. Is this correct?? How can I do that? Form a live cd? Or can I do anything from Ubuntu? If that's the issue, you can mount your root partition in Ubuntu, chroot to it (read Change Root article on archwiki), edit /etc/mkinitcpio.conf and run mkinitcpio -p linux.
Re: [arch-general] can not login after upgrade
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Arno Gaboury wrote: > After some reading across the forum, I see I am not the only one with this > issue. my /usr and /boot are both on a separate partition from /. It seems > this cause the issue. > As far as I can understand, the solution seems to add the Hook back and > rebuilt the image. > > Is this correct?? > > How can I do that? Form a live cd? Or can I do anything from Ubuntu? Arch install image can boot into an installed system. You can then add usr, fsck and shutdown hooks, as instructed in mkinitcpio.conf and rebuild the image with mkinitcpio -p linux. Hope that helps. -- A: Because it obfuscates the reading. Q: Why is top posting so bad? For more information, please read: http://idallen.com/topposting.html --- Denis A. Altoe Falqueto Linux user #524555 ---
Re: [arch-general] can not login after upgrade
"add the Hook back and rebuilt the image." O_o (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. (> <) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.) On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Arno Gaboury wrote: > Le 12. 06. 12 21:47, Arno Gaboury a écrit : > > Hi all, >> >> I am running a fresh update X86_64 Archlinux on BTRFS. >> >> I left my box unused for near one month (15/05-12/06). I did a system >> update today, following all latest news: >> -first updated pacman >> - moved to systemd and libusbx, did all the updates. Everything went OK. >> -upgraded the filesystem with the --force option. >> >> No errors at all. >> >> When rebooting, I did not see the usual init process details with all >> services, going to the login prompt VERY quickly (a few sec). >> At the login prompt, here is what I have: >> >> Archlinux 3.4.2-1-ARCH >> (none)login: >> >> >> I can type whatever I want (all user names, or anything else), I am >> always back to the propmt. I can no more login. >> >> I dual boot with Ubuntu. From Ubuntu, I see my Arch /boot folder is >> empty!! >> >> I have no proposal in Grub2 to boot from a previous version. >> >> So now, what shall I do ? >> >> TY for any help, as I am a litle disapointed and first time with such a >> big problem. >> >> > After some reading across the forum, I see I am not the only one with this > issue. my /usr and /boot are both on a separate partition from /. It seems > this cause the issue. > As far as I can understand, the solution seems to add the Hook back and > rebuilt the image. > > Is this correct?? > > How can I do that? Form a live cd? Or can I do anything from Ubuntu? >
Re: [arch-general] can not login after upgrade
Le 12. 06. 12 21:47, Arno Gaboury a écrit : Hi all, I am running a fresh update X86_64 Archlinux on BTRFS. I left my box unused for near one month (15/05-12/06). I did a system update today, following all latest news: -first updated pacman - moved to systemd and libusbx, did all the updates. Everything went OK. -upgraded the filesystem with the --force option. No errors at all. When rebooting, I did not see the usual init process details with all services, going to the login prompt VERY quickly (a few sec). At the login prompt, here is what I have: Archlinux 3.4.2-1-ARCH (none)login: I can type whatever I want (all user names, or anything else), I am always back to the propmt. I can no more login. I dual boot with Ubuntu. From Ubuntu, I see my Arch /boot folder is empty!! I have no proposal in Grub2 to boot from a previous version. So now, what shall I do ? TY for any help, as I am a litle disapointed and first time with such a big problem. After some reading across the forum, I see I am not the only one with this issue. my /usr and /boot are both on a separate partition from /. It seems this cause the issue. As far as I can understand, the solution seems to add the Hook back and rebuilt the image. Is this correct?? How can I do that? Form a live cd? Or can I do anything from Ubuntu?
Re: [arch-general] can not login after upgrade
oh yes, it's not mounted at all, that's why you can't see it from ubuntu (arch & ubuntu? how could you? :P) it's not a problem, just mount the boot partition to //boot and the /boot partition CAN'T be empty, because you can't login, but you actually boot! (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. (> <) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.) On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: > On 12 June 2012 20:50, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας <01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: > > another guy had problems with his VPS... > > when he updated he lost any connection with the VPS > > do you have /boot on a separate partition? > > Indeed, and if it is on separate partition it's probably not > getting mounted properly. > May be issue with changes regarding using fstab/labels vs UUID. > > Best regards, > -- > Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net >
Re: [arch-general] can not login after upgrade
On 12 June 2012 20:50, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας <01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: > another guy had problems with his VPS... > when he updated he lost any connection with the VPS > do you have /boot on a separate partition? Indeed, and if it is on separate partition it's probably not getting mounted properly. May be issue with changes regarding using fstab/labels vs UUID. Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net
Re: [arch-general] can not login after upgrade
another guy had problems with his VPS... when he updated he lost any connection with the VPS do you have /boot on a separate partition? (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. (> <) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.) On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Arno Gaboury wrote: > Hi all, > > I am running a fresh update X86_64 Archlinux on BTRFS. > > I left my box unused for near one month (15/05-12/06). I did a system > update today, following all latest news: > -first updated pacman > - moved to systemd and libusbx, did all the updates. Everything went OK. > -upgraded the filesystem with the --force option. > > No errors at all. > > When rebooting, I did not see the usual init process details with all > services, going to the login prompt VERY quickly (a few sec). > At the login prompt, here is what I have: > > Archlinux 3.4.2-1-ARCH > (none)login: > > > I can type whatever I want (all user names, or anything else), I am always > back to the propmt. I can no more login. > > I dual boot with Ubuntu. From Ubuntu, I see my Arch /boot folder is empty!! > > I have no proposal in Grub2 to boot from a previous version. > > So now, what shall I do ? > > TY for any help, as I am a litle disapointed and first time with such a > big problem. > >
