Re: [Arches] Test suite in Arches

[Alexei Peters]

Hi Tharindu,
It looks like PyUnit is in fact the unittest module in python (from their
docs, *'Unless you're stuck in the year 2000, PyUnit is in your Python
standard library as module unittest.'*)

I also just saw this: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytest-django/
One thing caught my eye when they describe the advantages of pytest which
was "Database re-use: no need to re-create the test database for every test
run."
That may be something we might have to look out for.

Anyway, we have options.
Cheers,
Alexei


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On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Tharindu Rusira
wrote:

>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Peters wrote:
>
>> Hi Tharindu,
>> Django uses the builtin unittest module.  It would be nice to use that if
>> possible.
>>
> Of course it's possible, Alexei. I think that would be a better approach
> to use this native unittest module.
>
> Thanks,
> -Tharindu
>
>
>>
>> https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/testing/
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexei
>>
>>
>> Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - 971.227.3173
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Tharindu Rusira <
>> tharindurus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Alexei,
>>> In my gsoc project I'm planning to write unit tests using PyUnit[1]. So
>>> I wanted to know whether PyUnit framework is fine or we have a project
>>> specific test mechanism.
>>>
>>> [1] http://pyunit.sourceforge.net
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> On Mar 18, 2014 10:05 AM, "Alexei Peters"  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Tharindu,
 At the moment we don't have any automated test routines.
 That's why we have project "Integrate a build/ci server and automated
 unit tests into the Arches dev environment".
 It would be lovely to have that!
 Cheers,
 Alexei


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 On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Tharindu Rusira <
 tharindurus...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> I would like to know the current level of code coverage in Arches. I
> browsed through Arches source code in bitbucket[1] but I could not find 
> any
> test cases.
>
> [1] https://bitbucket.org/arches/arches
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> M.P. Tharindu Rusira Kumara
>
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> University of Moratuwa,
> Sri Lanka.
> +94757033733
> www.tharindu-rusira.blogspot.com
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Re: [Arches] GSOC 2014 Proposal : Improving spatio-temporal relationships

[Alexei Peters]

Hi Sindhu,
There was just recently a thread on this project that you might want to
take a look at.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/archesproject/EkxJ8vPeGG0

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On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Sindhu Kiranmai Ernala <
eskiranma...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Arches Project - Project 17: Improve Representation of Spatial-Temporal
> Relationships
>
> Hi, I am Sindhu Kiranmai, a third year undergraduate student at
> International Institute of Information Technology- Hyderabad, India
> pursuing Btech in Computer Science + MS by Research in Exact Humanities. I
> got interested in Arches, from previous experience on working with a
> similar digital humanities project: History Visualizer, which is a web
> based tool facilitating various visualizations (through space, time, both
> space and time) for historic and cultural data. The basic version of the
> project can be found here :
> http://web2py.tusharonweb.in/maps_recent/default/index (Some javascript
> functionalities are deprecated due to upgradation of GoogleMaps API V2 to
> V3) I wish to contribute to project 17 as part of GSOC 2014.
>
> My programming language of choice is Python. I have good experience in
> HTML, XML,CSS, Javascript, Jquery and also MVC web frameworks, Web2Py and
> django in specific.
>
> *Project idea:* The current model for representing cultural periods is
> fairly limited and needs to be expanded to a more spatial-temporal
> representation. Now, spatio-temporal representation can be of two kinds :
> 1) space-in specific-time : this representation would give
> cultural/heritage information at all spaces (mapped geographically) at a
> particular time. Eg: Heritage sites all over the world (or space specific
> to the user's query), during the period of 1700-1800.
> 2) time-in specific-space : this representation would give
> cultural/heritage information of a particular geographical space over
> different time periods. Eg: The heritage sites in London, through different
> time periods(in 1700, 1800,1900...).
>
> Both the above representations improve spatio-temporal relationships, but
> which is more suitable in the case of Arches should be discussed.
>
> There are two approaches to the implementation of this project as
> suggested by Dennis.
>
> 1) Using CIDOC Conceptual Reference Model (CRM) which provides a formal
> structure for describing implicit and explicit relationships used in
> cultural heritage documentation. In the context of spatio-temporal
> relationships, I went through CIDOC CRM which provides classes like
> Period(E4), Event(E5), Temporal entity (E2) and Spacetime snapshot(E93)
> which could be incorporated into Arches graphs for improving the
> spatio-temporal relationships. I will formalize which classes to be used
> and update soon.
>
> 2) Improving spatio-temporal relationships to enhance filtering on Arches
> database and improving search UI. The solution I propose for this approach
> is similar to a project I worked on, namely History visualizer. The UI can
> be seen here :
> http://web2py.tusharonweb.in/maps_recent/default/space_time.html
> On scrolling through the timeline, historical events at that particular
> time are shown to be mapped at their geographic spaces. Implementation for
> this would require work on front-end and javascript intergration of the
> timeline onto the geospatial map.
>
> The first approaches improves the richness Arches graphs and the second
> provides a better search UI for the user. I am personally interested in
> working on approach 1, using CIDOC CRM, as ontology is one of my research
> interests I am currently pursuing. But I hope it is not too ambitious to
> believe that  both the approaches could be worked on.
>
> I am currently not very familiar with the integration of CIDOC CRM into
> Arches graphs but I am going through the model to better understand this.
> Guidance here would be really helpful.
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Re: [Arches] Test suite in Arches

[Tharindu Rusira]

On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Peters  wrote:

> Hi Tharindu,
> Django uses the builtin unittest module.  It would be nice to use that if
> possible.
>
Of course it's possible, Alexei. I think that would be a better approach
to use this native unittest module.

Thanks,
-Tharindu


>
> https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/testing/
>
> Cheers,
> Alexei
>
>
> Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - 971.227.3173
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Tharindu Rusira <
> tharindurus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Alexei,
>> In my gsoc project I'm planning to write unit tests using PyUnit[1]. So I
>> wanted to know whether PyUnit framework is fine or we have a project
>> specific test mechanism.
>>
>> [1] http://pyunit.sourceforge.net
>>
>> Regards,
>> On Mar 18, 2014 10:05 AM, "Alexei Peters"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tharindu,
>>> At the moment we don't have any automated test routines.
>>> That's why we have project "Integrate a build/ci server and automated
>>> unit tests into the Arches dev environment".
>>> It would be lovely to have that!
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alexei
>>>
>>>
>>> Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - 971.227.3173
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Tharindu Rusira <
>>> tharindurus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi everyone,
 I would like to know the current level of code coverage in Arches. I
 browsed through Arches source code in bitbucket[1] but I could not find any
 test cases.

 [1] https://bitbucket.org/arches/arches

 Thanks,

 --
 M.P. Tharindu Rusira Kumara

 Department of Computer Science and Engineering,
 University of Moratuwa,
 Sri Lanka.
 +94757033733
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Re: [Arches] GsoC 2014 Introduction

[Alexei Peters]

Hi Carlos,
Welcome to the Arches project!
When you say package wizard, I assume you mean the project
entitled"Installation Wizard".
Is that correct?
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On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Carlos Mauro Cardenas Fernandez <
ccarden...@pucp.pe> wrote:

>
> Hello!
>
> My name is Carlos Cárdenas first year student at Lima Perú and graduate
> system engineer like computer science, this is my second career on science.
>
> I'm intersted in contributing for arches i want work for the package
> wizard for linux and windows.
>
> Since I'm a bit late to the party. But before I do that, I (more details
> on detailed introduction later :) )
>
> Regards,
>  (Carlos Cárdenas)
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Re: [Arches] Test suite in Arches

[Alexei Peters]

Hi Tharindu,
Django uses the builtin unittest module.  It would be nice to use that if
possible.

https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/testing/

Cheers,
Alexei


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On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Tharindu Rusira
wrote:

> Thanks Alexei,
> In my gsoc project I'm planning to write unit tests using PyUnit[1]. So I
> wanted to know whether PyUnit framework is fine or we have a project
> specific test mechanism.
>
> [1] http://pyunit.sourceforge.net
>
> Regards,
> On Mar 18, 2014 10:05 AM, "Alexei Peters"  wrote:
>
>> Hi Tharindu,
>> At the moment we don't have any automated test routines.
>> That's why we have project "Integrate a build/ci server and automated
>> unit tests into the Arches dev environment".
>> It would be lovely to have that!
>> Cheers,
>> Alexei
>>
>>
>> Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - 971.227.3173
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Tharindu Rusira <
>> tharindurus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> I would like to know the current level of code coverage in Arches. I
>>> browsed through Arches source code in bitbucket[1] but I could not find any
>>> test cases.
>>>
>>> [1] https://bitbucket.org/arches/arches
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> --
>>> M.P. Tharindu Rusira Kumara
>>>
>>> Department of Computer Science and Engineering,
>>> University of Moratuwa,
>>> Sri Lanka.
>>> +94757033733
>>> www.tharindu-rusira.blogspot.com
>>>
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[Arches] GsoC 2014 Introduction

[Carlos Mauro Cardenas Fernandez]

 


Hello!

My name is Carlos Cárdenas first year student at Lima Perú and graduate 
system engineer like computer science, this is my second career on science.

I'm intersted in contributing for arches i want work for the package wizard 
for linux and windows.

Since I'm a bit late to the party. But before I do that, I (more details on 
detailed introduction later :) )

Regards,
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Re: [Arches] Test suite in Arches

[Tharindu Rusira]

Thanks Alexei,
In my gsoc project I'm planning to write unit tests using PyUnit[1]. So I
wanted to know whether PyUnit framework is fine or we have a project
specific test mechanism.

[1] http://pyunit.sourceforge.net

Regards,
On Mar 18, 2014 10:05 AM, "Alexei Peters"  wrote:

> Hi Tharindu,
> At the moment we don't have any automated test routines.
> That's why we have project "Integrate a build/ci server and automated unit
> tests into the Arches dev environment".
> It would be lovely to have that!
> Cheers,
> Alexei
>
>
> Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - 971.227.3173
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Tharindu Rusira  > wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I would like to know the current level of code coverage in Arches. I
>> browsed through Arches source code in bitbucket[1] but I could not find any
>> test cases.
>>
>> [1] https://bitbucket.org/arches/arches
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> M.P. Tharindu Rusira Kumara
>>
>> Department of Computer Science and Engineering,
>> University of Moratuwa,
>> Sri Lanka.
>> +94757033733
>> www.tharindu-rusira.blogspot.com
>>
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Re: [Arches] Test suite in Arches

[Alexei Peters]

Hi Tharindu,
At the moment we don't have any automated test routines.
That's why we have project "Integrate a build/ci server and automated unit
tests into the Arches dev environment".
It would be lovely to have that!
Cheers,
Alexei


Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - 971.227.3173


On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Tharindu Rusira
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> I would like to know the current level of code coverage in Arches. I
> browsed through Arches source code in bitbucket[1] but I could not find any
> test cases.
>
> [1] https://bitbucket.org/arches/arches
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> M.P. Tharindu Rusira Kumara
>
> Department of Computer Science and Engineering,
> University of Moratuwa,
> Sri Lanka.
> +94757033733
> www.tharindu-rusira.blogspot.com
>
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[Arches] Test suite in Arches

[Tharindu Rusira]

Hi everyone,
I would like to know the current level of code coverage in Arches. I
browsed through Arches source code in bitbucket[1] but I could not find any
test cases.

[1] https://bitbucket.org/arches/arches

Thanks,

-- 
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Department of Computer Science and Engineering,
University of Moratuwa,
Sri Lanka.
+94757033733
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[Arches] Re: Problems running Arches with Vagrant

[Rob Gaston]

Also, vagrant destroy/vagrant up must be executed from the root project 
folder, but I suspect you already knew that. :)

- Rob

On Monday, March 17, 2014 7:46:04 PM UTC-7, Rob Gaston wrote:
>
> Hi Daphne,
>
> It's tough to tell what has gone wrong without seeing the output from the 
> build, but I suspect that the something has gone wrong w/ the CDS package 
> installation.  A few things to check:
>
>- I assume you are, but please ensure you are working from the v2 
>installation guide: https://leanpub.com/archesv2installationguide
>- Please ensure that you've cloned the CDS package repo into the 
>packages folder.
>- Please ensure that your settings_local.py file is present and 
>contains the INSTALLED_PACKAGES value as described in the documentation 
>("Loading CDS Package" section). I noticed that the docs didn't quite turn 
>out right re: the two commands to write to that file and they got crammed 
>into one line, hopefully that didn't trip you up.  It would be helpful in 
>diagnosing if you could post the content of your settings_local.py file 
>(also it should be in the same directory as settings.py).  The package 
> name 
>in this tuple must match the package folder name exactly.
>- If you're still struggling with installation please send the build 
>output along.  Pipe the output to a text file and send it along.  You can 
>do this by running the following two commands from a local shell (NOT 
> ssh'd 
>into your vagrant vm) and then sending the output.txt file created:
>
> vagrant destroy
>
> vagrant up > output.txt
>
>
> I hope this helps!  Let us know.
>
> - Rob
>
>
> On Monday, March 17, 2014 6:55:46 PM UTC-7, Daphne Ippolito wrote:
>>
>> Hi.
>> I've been trying to set up my development environment, and I feel that I 
>> am close but missing something important.
>>
>> From vagrant, I run ./runserver-vagrant.sh as per the instructions in 
>> the installation guide. The server has an initialization error, reproduced 
>> below, but otherwise seems to be launched correctly.
>>
>> The error when the server starts:
>> "{0.90.3}: Initialization Failed ... - 
>> ElasticSearchIllegalStateException[Failed to obtain node lock, is the 
>> following location writable?: 
>> [/vagrant/archesproject/arches/Search/engines/elasticsearch-0.90.3/data/elasticsearch]]"
>>
>> When I start up the client, it gets stuck in the "initializing" page with 
>> an endlessly cycling progress bar.
>>
>> There are two errors in the console:
>> Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (NOT 
>> FOUND) http://127.0.0.1:8000/Arches/Media/js/i18n/en-us.js
>> Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'App' of undefined 
>> Arches.App.js:41
>>
>> The server reports one 404 among the list of successful GETs:
>>
>> [17/Mar/2014 20:01:25] "GET /Arches/Media/js/i18n/en-us.js HTTP/1.1" 404 
>> 1664
>> The folder at '/Arches/Media/js/i18n' doesn't exist in my arches 
>> directory.
>>
>> Does anyone have an idea what I am doing wrong?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Daphne
>>
>

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[Arches] Re: Problems running Arches with Vagrant

[Rob Gaston]

Hi Daphne,

It's tough to tell what has gone wrong without seeing the output from the 
build, but I suspect that the something has gone wrong w/ the CDS package 
installation.  A few things to check:

   - I assume you are, but please ensure you are working from the v2 
   installation guide: https://leanpub.com/archesv2installationguide
   - Please ensure that you've cloned the CDS package repo into the 
   packages folder.
   - Please ensure that your settings_local.py file is present and contains 
   the INSTALLED_PACKAGES value as described in the documentation ("Loading 
   CDS Package" section). I noticed that the docs didn't quite turn out right 
   re: the two commands to write to that file and they got crammed into one 
   line, hopefully that didn't trip you up.  It would be helpful in diagnosing 
   if you could post the content of your settings_local.py file (also it 
   should be in the same directory as settings.py).  The package name in this 
   tuple must match the package folder name exactly.
   - If you're still struggling with installation please send the build 
   output along.  Pipe the output to a text file and send it along.  You can 
   do this by running the following two commands from a local shell (NOT ssh'd 
   into your vagrant vm) and then sending the output.txt file created:

vagrant destroy

vagrant up > output.txt


I hope this helps!  Let us know.

- Rob


On Monday, March 17, 2014 6:55:46 PM UTC-7, Daphne Ippolito wrote:
>
> Hi.
> I've been trying to set up my development environment, and I feel that I 
> am close but missing something important.
>
> From vagrant, I run ./runserver-vagrant.sh as per the instructions in the 
> installation guide. The server has an initialization error, reproduced 
> below, but otherwise seems to be launched correctly.
>
> The error when the server starts:
> "{0.90.3}: Initialization Failed ... - 
> ElasticSearchIllegalStateException[Failed to obtain node lock, is the 
> following location writable?: 
> [/vagrant/archesproject/arches/Search/engines/elasticsearch-0.90.3/data/elasticsearch]]"
>
> When I start up the client, it gets stuck in the "initializing" page with 
> an endlessly cycling progress bar.
>
> There are two errors in the console:
> Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (NOT 
> FOUND) http://127.0.0.1:8000/Arches/Media/js/i18n/en-us.js
> Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'App' of undefined 
> Arches.App.js:41
>
> The server reports one 404 among the list of successful GETs:
>
> [17/Mar/2014 20:01:25] "GET /Arches/Media/js/i18n/en-us.js HTTP/1.1" 404 
> 1664
> The folder at '/Arches/Media/js/i18n' doesn't exist in my arches 
> directory.
>
> Does anyone have an idea what I am doing wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Daphne
>

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[Arches] Re: Problems running Arches with Vagrant

[Daphne Ippolito]

I should mention I am on Mac 10.9.

I have tried to raise the privileges of '/vagrant/archesproject/
arches/Search/engines/elasticsearch-0.90.3/data/elasticsearch' but that 
hasn't cleared the error.

On Monday, 17 March 2014 21:55:46 UTC-4, Daphne Ippolito wrote:
>
> Hi.
> I've been trying to set up my development environment, and I feel that I 
> am close but missing something important.
>
> From vagrant, I run ./runserver-vagrant.sh as per the instructions in the 
> installation guide. The server has an initialization error, reproduced 
> below, but otherwise seems to be launched correctly.
>
> The error when the server starts:
> "{0.90.3}: Initialization Failed ... - 
> ElasticSearchIllegalStateException[Failed to obtain node lock, is the 
> following location writable?: 
> [/vagrant/archesproject/arches/Search/engines/elasticsearch-0.90.3/data/elasticsearch]]"
>
> When I start up the client, it gets stuck in the "initializing" page with 
> an endlessly cycling progress bar.
>
> There are two errors in the console:
> Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (NOT 
> FOUND) http://127.0.0.1:8000/Arches/Media/js/i18n/en-us.js
> Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'App' of undefined 
> Arches.App.js:41
>
> The server reports one 404 among the list of successful GETs:
>
> [17/Mar/2014 20:01:25] "GET /Arches/Media/js/i18n/en-us.js HTTP/1.1" 404 
> 1664
> The folder at '/Arches/Media/js/i18n' doesn't exist in my arches 
> directory.
>
> Does anyone have an idea what I am doing wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Daphne
>

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[Arches] Problems running Arches with Vagrant

[Daphne Ippolito]

Hi.
I've been trying to set up my development environment, and I feel that I am 
close but missing something important.

>From vagrant, I run ./runserver-vagrant.sh as per the instructions in the 
installation guide. The server has an initialization error, reproduced 
below, but otherwise seems to be launched correctly.

The error when the server starts:
"{0.90.3}: Initialization Failed ... - 
ElasticSearchIllegalStateException[Failed to obtain node lock, is the 
following location writable?: 
[/vagrant/archesproject/arches/Search/engines/elasticsearch-0.90.3/data/elasticsearch]]"

When I start up the client, it gets stuck in the "initializing" page with 
an endlessly cycling progress bar.

There are two errors in the console:
Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (NOT 
FOUND) http://127.0.0.1:8000/Arches/Media/js/i18n/en-us.js
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'App' of undefined 
Arches.App.js:41

The server reports one 404 among the list of successful GETs:

[17/Mar/2014 20:01:25] "GET /Arches/Media/js/i18n/en-us.js HTTP/1.1" 404 
1664
The folder at '/Arches/Media/js/i18n' doesn't exist in my arches directory.

Does anyone have an idea what I am doing wrong?

Thanks,
Daphne

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RE: [Arches] Re: Ideas for GSoC Project: Improve Representation of Spatial-Temporal Relationships

[Van Daele, Koen]

Hi Daphne,

I think that anything that has to deal with vague temporal or spatial 
information will automatically turn out te be fairly complex.

The fuzzy endpoints of periods is probably the easier one. There the big hurdle 
is making a good UI that allows for people to enter vague temporal information 
in a simple and straightforward way that doesn't take to long. We've currently 
implemented this with a set of widget that allow choosing a start period and an 
end period whereby both can have different levels of fuzzyness. Eg. A period of 
time that runs from 'the 8th century BC' till the year 57 BC (Iron Age in 
Belgium). It's a very textual way of entering data, but that seems to match our 
users best. Although in actual fact we currently only use the Fuzzy Temporal 
Intervals for dates of "Events" (an excavation, a survey, aerial photography, 
...) For dating of sites and monuments we use an entirely different approach 
based solely on a thesaurus of periods.

I think the second direction: Allow periods and regions to be associated poses 
a lot more conceptual issues. I guess one could define a whole set of different 
"Iron Ages", but I have a hard time seeing how it would all work on a practical 
level. Especially once you start to factor in bringing together data from 
different implementations and the fact that a region can be vague as well. I 
also think that another complicating factor can be researches who tend take 
their chronological system with them. For example, in Flanders, a part of the 
Iron Age archaeologists use the French division of the Iron Age and another 
group uses the Dutch division. One group tends to work closer to the French 
border, the other one closer to the Dutch border. But they also seem to be 
aligned with the universities the archaeologists graduated from. So I'm not 
even sure anyone would be capable of geographically defining those ares. 
Also, when someone then tries to search for Late Iron Age, should they get 
results from the French Late Iron Age, the Dutch one or both? Or should it be 
impossible to search for something like 'Late Iron Age' and only possible to 
search for a specific one? I'm also not sure if the definition of a certain 
period in a certain area has stayed constant through time. That probably 
affects things as well. Anyway, it's an absolutely facinating research topic, 
but one where I think you really need to define a clear scope for your project 
and resist the tempation of going to far away from it. And make sure that you 
can communicate to users of your system which choices you've made and why.

Cheers,
Koen

Van: archesproject@googlegroups.com [archesproject@googlegroups.com] namens 
Daphne Ippolito [daphne...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: zondag 16 maart 2014 20:08
Aan: archesproject@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: [Arches] Re: Ideas for GSoC Project: Improve Representation of 
Spatial-Temporal Relationships

Hi.
Thanks for your responses. I don't know Dutch, but your abstract did a good job 
of explaining what the situation is and the terminology I should be looking 
into.

There seems to be  two separate directions this project could go in.

 1.  Improving the way Arches deals with endpoints of periods by allowing for 
the input of fuzziness. This task doesn't have a spatial component to it. The 
project would involve implementing a way for users to specify uncertainty and 
subjectivity in their period definitions using the algorithms you mention in 
your post.
 2.  Creating the ability for periods to be spatially referenced. This task 
only deals with the spatial, not the temporal, definition of periods. It has 
two tiers of complexity. First, allow periods to be associated with geospatial 
regions. Second, devise a system to represent the fuzziness of these geospatial 
regions.

I am not sure whether both can be tackled in one summer, or if I should pin my 
focus on one.

Thanks for all the input.

-Daphne

On Sunday, 16 March 2014 05:10:07 UTC-4, Koen Van Daele wrote:
Hi Daphne,

I did some work on representing vague/imperfect temporal information in 
relational databases. It's a very interesting, but quite complicated subject. I 
did a masterpaper on it, but that's in Dutch. I don't suppose you speak Dutch? 
It does also contain an English abstract. You can find the masterpaper here: 
http://lib.ugent.be/fulltxt/RUG01/001/418/820/RUG01-001418820_2010_0001_AC.pdf. 
I did a conference paper on this subject at CAA 2012. You can find the slids 
here: 
http://www.slideshare.net/koenedaele/imperfect-temporal-information-in-data-sets.
 The digital paper should have been published by now, but the CAA publication 
process seems to be quite slow at the moment.

The basic idea was to treat spans of time as fuzzy sets. I then implemented and 
tested a few different algorithms on actually reasoning with these fuzzy 
temporal intervals. The implementation consists of using postgis geometries for 
representing fuzy t

Re: [Arches] Re: Ideas for GSoC Project: Improve Representation of Spatial-Temporal Relationships

[Adam Lodge]

Hi Daphne,  

I wanted to provide some input on two of the items you addressed in your 
previous messages.

1. You asked if Arches supports sub-periods.  The answer is yes.  In fact 
Arches supports any type of thesauri to have hierarchical relationships.  
Whenever you hit a pick list in the UI (be it for search or for entering 
attributes on controlled vocabularies), the initial view of the pick list items 
is flat.  However, if you select the item that says "View Concept Tree", you 
will then see the hierarchical arrangement of the concepts that compose the 
thesauri.  If you try that for period within the advanced search, you will see 
exactly what you are looking for.

2. You asked about the two directions that your proposal could go in.  I 
recommend you follow the first path - that is, accommodating the input and 
query of fuzzy dates.  The reasoning here is that the team is already pretty 
well stacked with people who have lots of experience in the realm of spatial 
data management and visualization, and we could use more focused help on 
dealing effectively with temporal data.

Looking forward to your proposal…
Adam  

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On Sunday, March 16, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Daphne Ippolito wrote:

> Hi.
> Thanks for your responses. I don't know Dutch, but your abstract did a good 
> job of explaining what the situation is and the terminology I should be 
> looking into.
>  
> There seems to be  two separate directions this project could go in.  
> Improving the way Arches deals with endpoints of periods by allowing for the 
> input of fuzziness. This task doesn't have a spatial component to it. The 
> project would involve implementing a way for users to specify uncertainty and 
> subjectivity in their period definitions using the algorithms you mention in 
> your post.
> Creating the ability for periods to be spatially referenced. This task only 
> deals with the spatial, not the temporal, definition of periods. It has two 
> tiers of complexity. First, allow periods to be associated with geospatial 
> regions. Second, devise a system to represent the fuzziness of these 
> geospatial regions.  
>  
> I am not sure whether both can be tackled in one summer, or if I should pin 
> my focus on one.
>  
> Thanks for all the input.
>  
> -Daphne
>  
> On Sunday, 16 March 2014 05:10:07 UTC-4, Koen Van Daele wrote:
> > Hi Daphne,
> >  
> > I did some work on representing vague/imperfect temporal information in 
> > relational databases. It's a very interesting, but quite complicated 
> > subject. I did a masterpaper on it, but that's in Dutch. I don't suppose 
> > you speak Dutch? It does also contain an English abstract. You can find the 
> > masterpaper here: 
> > http://lib.ugent.be/fulltxt/RUG01/001/418/820/RUG01-001418820_2010_0001_AC.pdf.
> >  I did a conference paper on this subject at CAA 2012. You can find the 
> > slids here: 
> > http://www.slideshare.net/koenedaele/imperfect-temporal-information-in-data-sets.
> >  The digital paper should have been published by now, but the CAA 
> > publication process seems to be quite slow at the moment.
> >  
> > The basic idea was to treat spans of time as fuzzy sets. I then implemented 
> > and tested a few different algorithms on actually reasoning with these 
> > fuzzy temporal intervals. The implementation consists of using postgis 
> > geometries for representing fuzy temporal intervals and PL/PGSQL functions 
> > for actually comparing them. I packaged the code as a library and released 
> > it under an MIT license on Github: https://github.com/koenedaele/pgFTI.  
> > Work has been done on porting one of the algorithms to a pure C based 
> > extension to postgresql for better performance (this would also remove the 
> > dependency on PostGIS). Still need to package that one up and release it to 
> > the public.
> >  
> > I also recently gave a similar talk at the University of Paris about this 
> > subject that also listed some other ways of dealing with time in our 
> > databases. You can find the slides for this talk here: 
> > http://www.slideshare.net/koenedaele/paris2014. In that talk I also mention 
> > how we deal with periods and subperiods by using a thesaurus. I think this 
> > should be feasible with Arches as well.
> >  
> > So, some of these might give you some ideas for dealing with the typical 
> > vagueness of temporal information inherent in archaeology.
> >  
> > I never had to deal with the fact that one period can have different 
> > temporal borders in different parts of the world (where those parts are in 
> > themselves inherently vague as well). Seems like a tough nut to crack. I'll 
> > see if I can come up with any helpful suggestions on that topic.
> >  
> > Cheers,
> > Koen
> >  
> > Op vrijdag 14 maart 2014 22:52:54 UTC+1 schreef Daphne Ippolito:
> > >  
> > > Hello.
> > >  
> > >  
> > > Before I start writing my GSoC proposal, I wanted to share some of my

Re: [Arches] Entity Relationship Diagram

[Adam Lodge]

Brian, 

Per your request, an ERD of the Arches physical data model is attached to this 
message.

That said, what makes Arches powerful and unique is its ability to ingest a 
logical schema based on resource graphs which define the resources to be 
managed within an Arches instance and those resources' attributes.  For further 
information, check out the chapter in the install documentation title "The Core 
Data Standard (CDS) Package."  

Cheers,
Adam

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On Monday, March 17, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Brian Crane wrote:

> Is an ER diagram available for the Arches database?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brian 
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Re: [Arches] Re: Improve temporal based searching

[Alexei Peters]

Hi Nidhi,
Can you be more specific?  The project "Improve Temporal Based Searching"
lays out the basics.  Is there something else you'd like to know?
Cheers,
Alexei


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On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:07 AM, Nidhi Jain  wrote:

>
> I am interested in working on this project "Improve Temporal Based
> Searching" and I need guidance on which direction to start.I would like
> to know about the current search efficiency of arches and the method used.
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[Arches] Entity Relationship Diagram

[Brian Crane]

Is an ER diagram available for the Arches database?

Thanks,

Brian

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[Arches] Re: Metadata

[Brian Crane]

Dennis,

Sorry to be so slow responding. Dublin Core seems like a very good place to 
start for documents. I was thinking of something along the lines of the 
FGDC geospatial metadata. Those are feature set level metadata, and are 
pretty elaborate, but a subset might be useful at the record level. The NPS 
is working on establishing cultural resources geospatial data transfer 
standards for federal agencies that will likely include some feature level 
metadata, but those will be in development for some time yet I think.

Brian

On Saturday, February 8, 2014 12:57:42 PM UTC-5, Dennis Wuthrich wrote:
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> Welcome to the Arches forum.
>
> Good question on record-level metadata.  At the moment, you would need to 
> edit the graphs to support the kind of metadata (e.g.: accuracy of 
> geometries) that you are talking about.
>
> We are starting to think about record-level metadata for an upcoming 
> version of Arches (specifically for images and documents), so it would be 
> good to hear what your particular requirements are.
>
> FYI, we're looking at Dublin Core for the image/document metadata...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dennis
>
> On Thursday, February 6, 2014 7:43:47 AM UTC-8, Brian Crane wrote:
>>
>> Is there a way to capture/report metadata associated with the records? 
>> I'm particularly thinking about mapping methods used to record site 
>> location and estimates of completeness and accuracy.
>>
>

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RE: [Arches] Interested in getting involved

[Lee, Edmund]

Hi Imdad! and welcome to the Arches project forum.

There’s a good mix of computer specialists and heritage specialists on the list 
so I’m sure you will be able to find help developing an idea. For the GSOC you 
need to pull together an application, as I’m sure you are aware. Have a look at 
other posts on the list, particularly the advice given to other GSOC applicants 
from project participants, in particular Dennis Wuthrich, Alexei Peters, Rob 
Gaston and Karl Fogel. You can see all the previous discussions at 
http://archesproject.org/forum/

And do have a look at the ‘Signing In’ thread to find out a bit more about us – 
and share your interests.

All good wishes

Ed

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To: archesproject@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Arches] Interested in getting involved

Hi,

I am currently a Computer Science student enrolled at King's College London. I 
am finishing my third placement year with General Electric Oil & Gas and was 
seeking an opportunity to work on GSOC to have some fun whilst improving my 
programming skills :)

I was particularly interested in the 'Import/Export Improvements' project as I 
would like to further my career in Web Development. I have experience with Java 
(inc. multi-threaded programming), PHP (currently developing a content 
management system using Laravel Framework) and am familiar with Restful 
Controllers. Although I haven't learn Python, like many other languages I'm 
sure I could pick up along the way.

Just hoping to see if I would be considered for a role on this project or if 
there was another one available more suited towards my skills

Thanks in advance and I look forward to hearing from you

Regards,
Imdad
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[Arches] Interested in getting involved

[Imdad Ahad]

Hi,

I am currently a Computer Science student enrolled at King's College 
London. I am finishing my third placement year with General Electric Oil & 
Gas and was seeking an opportunity to work on GSOC to have some fun whilst 
improving my programming skills :)

I was particularly interested in the 'Import/Export Improvements' project 
as I would like to further my career in Web Development. I have experience 
with Java (inc. multi-threaded programming), PHP (currently developing a 
content management system using Laravel Framework) and am familiar with 
Restful Controllers. Although I haven't learn Python, like many other 
languages I'm sure I could pick up along the way.

Just hoping to see if I would be considered for a role on this project or 
if there was another one available more suited towards my skills

Thanks in advance and I look forward to hearing from you

Regards,
Imdad

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